What player not in the Hall of fame would you put in if you could?

[John8204]

One of the things I like about the basketball hall of fame is that the bar is pretty low. It's not like the MLB hall where the guys not in the hall could be a bigger deal than the guys in the hall. Meanwhile the NFL system seems great if not slightly arbitrary guys seem to get in eventually. Though when it comes to basketball most of the guys that should get it...do get it it's pretty rare for a player to be "snubbed".

So let's say you get to put one guy in the Hall that isn't in the hall or clearly going into the Hall in the next few years.

[John8204]

My pick would be Bill Laimbeer...I've always said the Pistons kinda got jobbed when it came to the Hall of Fame committee as Mark Aguirre really was as good as Dumars, Rodman, and Dantley. Bill isn't in the hall of fame because he's "dirty" but the man was a rival of Bird and MJ. Bill has 2 rings as a player and 3 as a coach, he led the league in rebounding. Once Detroit traded for him he showed up for every game from 81-91 only missing 1 game not for injury but for a suspension. That's right the "dirtiest" player of his generation was only suspended 1 game in his entire run.

[fsvr54]

Mitch Richmond, second best SG of an entire decade

[Thenameless]

My pick would be Bill Laimbeer...I've always said the Pistons kinda got jobbed when it came to the Hall of Fame committee as Mark Aguirre really was as good as Dumars, Rodman, and Dantley. Bill isn't in the hall of fame because he's "dirty" but the man was a rival of Bird and MJ. Bill has 2 rings as a player and 3 as a coach, he led the league in rebounding. Once Detroit traded for him he showed up for every game from 81-91 only missing 1 game not for injury but for a suspension. That's right the "dirtiest" player of his generation was only suspended 1 game in his entire run.

I remember him being a crucial part of why the Pistons were so good. A nice mix of skill, grit, and grind. He was certainly more skilled than most people think.

[John8204]

Mitch Richmond, second best SG of an entire decade

He's in the Hall this is a good reference point

https://www.notinhalloffame.com/basketball

[Kblaze8855]

Tim Hardaway probably but I wouldn’t want to add anyone. I’d rather take about 20-30 people out.

[L.Kizzle]

Tim Hardaway probably but I wouldn’t want to add anyone. I’d rather take about 20-30 people out.
Who would you take out? Any recent guys or a bunch of old timers?

[L.Kizzle]

Tim Hardaway probably but I wouldn’t want to add anyone. I’d rather take about 20-30 people out.
Also, Tim should make it just because the other guys of RUN TMC are in he he was the most successful of the trio.

He has three top 8 MVP finishes and Mully and Rock combined have 1. Has one 1st team and three 2nd teams.

The only one of the three to go deep in the playoffs (Conference Finals.)

[Axe]

I guess laimbeer was one of the big reasons why baldone cried to the refs bt and thus, the league was changed since then.

[Round Mound]

Mitch Richmond, second best SG of an entire decade

This

[L.Kizzle]

This

He goin in twice?

[L.Kizzle]

How do yall feel about Shawn Kemp, Penny, KJ for the Hall?
I mean, if Jack Sikma can make it, why not them.

[pandiani17]

My pick would be Bill Laimbeer...I've always said the Pistons kinda got jobbed when it came to the Hall of Fame committee as Mark Aguirre really was as good as Dumars, Rodman, and Dantley. Bill isn't in the hall of fame because he's "dirty" but the man was a rival of Bird and MJ. Bill has 2 rings as a player and 3 as a coach, he led the league in rebounding. Once Detroit traded for him he showed up for every game from 81-91 only missing 1 game not for injury but for a suspension. That's right the "dirtiest" player of his generation was only suspended 1 game in his entire run.

lol. Nowadays he would sit half the regular season in the stands because of his shenanigans.

[warriorfan]

Tim Hardaway

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

The standards that they have now.

Pretty much any player that had 4 or 5 star seasons (webber or grant hill)

Or a really good international career and 1 allstar (divac)

[L.Kizzle]

The standards that they have now.

Pretty much any player that had 4 or 5 star seasons (webber or grant hill)

Or a really good international career and 1 allstar (divac)You don't think Webber and Hlll are Hall of Famers?

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

You don't think Webber and Hlll are Hall of Famers?

NBA careers? No. The way i see it, they played at hall of fame level. The problem is they only had half of a career. So in order for me to consider them hall of fame worthy, they would have to have insane top 20 goat peaks and neither of them had that.

If you include their college days though, i would say yes. But most star nba players were also dominant college players.

[L.Kizzle]

NBA careers? No. The way i see it, they played at hall of fame level. The problem is they only had half of a career. So in order for me to consider them hall of fame worthy, they would have to have insane top 20 goat peaks and neither of them had that.

If you include their college days though, i would say yes. But most star nba players were also dominant college players.
It is the basketball Hall of Fame not NBA Hall. And the NBA has been around for 75 years so you need more than 20 players who peaked at GOAT level. I mean, this isn't Michael Finley or Rasheed Wallace we're talking about. Webber and Hill were 2 of the absolute best as their position in their primes and had multiple top ten seasons in the league.

[bizil]

Laimbeer is an interesting pick. Very good scorer, great rebounder, very good defender. And of the first TRUE CENTERS (McAdoo more of a PF-C type) you could actually consider a stretch 5. I would say he and Sikma for the 5's. I'm talking in the late 80's when he started to focus on shooting 3's more. Plus he shot 84% from the FT line for his career.

In today's game, he would ACTUALLY fit great! The way he would rebound, defend, and stretch the floor shooting would SUPERCEDE weaknesses defending today's smaller centers on the perimeter. Or switching out on PnR.

[Bawkish]

Laimbeer is an interesting pick. Very good scorer, great rebounder, great defender. And of the first TRUE CENTERS (McAdoo more of a PF-C type) you could actually consider a stretch 5. I would say he and Sikma for the 5's. I'm talking in the late 80's when he started to focus on shooting 3's more.

In today's game, he would ACTUALLY fit great! The way he would rebound, defend, and stretch the floor shooting would SUPERCEDE weaknesses defending today's smaller centers. Or switching out on PnR. A prime Laimbeer on the Lakers would ALLOW the Lakers to keep AD at the PF for example for most of the game. Because Laimbeer could stretch the floor effectively. WHILE still being a beast on the glass.

Also he'll probably get 2 flagrants in his 1st 5 games then a suspension after 10

[bizil]

How do yall feel about Shawn Kemp, Penny, KJ for the Hall?
I mean, if Jack Sikma can make it, why not them.

Good point I agree! I think Sikma winning a ring helped his case for sure. Of the guys u listed, I think Kemp is the most deserving. Kemp can LEGIT SAY he took freak athleticism at the PF spot to the next level. He brought the Dominique type shit to the PF spot. Guys like Barkley, Chambers, and Nance before him brought their own twist on freak athletic ability at the PF spot for sure. So ya for the big guys 6'10 and up, Kemp was THE BLUEPRINT for that new age freak athletic ability.

[HunterSThompson]

theres way worse careers than this in the hall of fame.

https://i.ibb.co/MZ2n8ft/Screenshot-20220111-023327-Gallery.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/3zSy40F/Screenshot-20220111-023316-Gallery.jpg

[TheGoatest]

Amare will have the same problem getting into the HOF as Dwight had getting on the top 75 list.
Looking at his resumé he has a case, though not as clear one as Dwight being top 75, which should've been a no-brainer.

But like Dwight, he will still be seen as someone who was all-athleticism and no-skill, and who was a shadow of his former self as early as age 29.

[RRR3]

Typical ISH not even knowing who’s in the HOF lmao

[dankok8]

I might actually choose Kevin Johnson over Tim Hardaway. KJ is hella underrated. He and Tom Chambers led the Suns to two conference finals before Barkley ever got there.

[RogueBorg]

Since the bar is low for the NBA, then I think Peja Stojaković should be in.

If Penny Hardaway hadn't gotten hurt, he'd be a HOFer.

Not saying this next guy deserves to be in the HOF, this is more a shout out, Lionel Simmons was another really good player from the 90's who's career was cut short by injuries. His rookie year, as a SF, he averaged 18 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 4.0 apg, 1.4 spg, 1.1 bpg. Had solid numbers like this for 4 seasons before the injury. No body knew about him because he was stuck on the Kings but he was really good.

[RogueBorg]

How about Marques Johnson of the Bucks?

3x All-NBA
5x All-Star
Averaged 20.1 ppg

[L.Kizzle]

Amare gets in, though I don't think he's eligible yet as he was recently playing overseas.

[John8204]

Another guy who it antithetical to the stat based picks in Robert Horry who has seven rings and was instrumental in getting those seven rings. Horry delivered three maybe four rings with his clutch shooting.

[HunterSThompson]

Another guy who it antithetical to the stat based picks in Robert Horry who has seven rings and was instrumental in getting those seven rings. Horry delivered three maybe four rings with his clutch shooting.

no. a few clutch shots by a role player isn't a hall of famer.

roger maris isn't even in the baseball hall of fame and he won 2 mvps and led his team to 3 world series as a 7 time allstar and broke the all time single season homerun record and is still the only clean player ever to hit 61


I've stopped trying to figure out what makes a hall of famer in baseball or basketball

[John8204]

no. a few clutch shots by a role player isn't a hall of famer.

roger maris isn't even in the baseball hall of fame and he won 2 mvps and led his team to 3 world series as a 7 time allstar and broke the all time single season homerun record and is still the only clean player ever to hit 61


I've stopped trying to figure out what makes a hall of famer in baseball or basketball

Baseball HOF is a joke, two time MVP's aren't in the hall, Home Run, Cy Young and Hits leaders aren't in the hall but Mariano Rivera (who is basically baseball's Robert Horry) is 100% in

[L.Kizzle]

Another guy who it antithetical to the stat based picks in Robert Horry who has seven rings and was instrumental in getting those seven rings. Horry delivered three maybe four rings with his clutch shooting.
Nah. He was just in the right place at the right time. We're any of those shots he made even called for him to take it other than the one vs the Pistons?

[ShawkFactory]

Baseball HOF is a joke, two time MVP's aren't in the hall, Home Run, Cy Young and Hits leaders aren't in the hall but Mariano Rivera (who is basically baseball's Robert Horry) is 100% in

That is an absolutely awful comparison.

[HunterSThompson]

Baseball HOF is a joke, two time MVP's aren't in the hall, Home Run, Cy Young and Hits leaders aren't in the hall but Mariano Rivera (who is basically baseball's Robert Horry) is 100% in

1961 world series champion yankees

mickey mantle - 54 homeruns, 128 rbi, 131 runs
roger maris - 61 homeruns, 148 rbi, 132 runs

1962 world series champion yankees


mickey mantle - 30 homeruns, 89 rbi, 96 runs
roger maris - 33 homeruns, 100 rbi, 92 runs


1967 St louis Cardinals World series champions

world series stats ( poor season but came up huge ):

roger maris - 10 hits *2nd most ( .385 average ), 7 rbi *team leader, 2nd in OPS and OBP to Lou Brock

[John8204]

Nah. He was just in the right place at the right time. We're any of those shots he made even called for him to take it other than the one vs the Pistons?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh0zghXO0X8

The only one that seems like it was right place right time was when the alleged top ten player Shaq and Kobe both missed and big shot Bob needed to save the day.

Horry might have been a role player but that role seems to be to win chips.

[hateraid]

Mitch Richmond, second best SG of an entire decade

Drexler says hi

[fsvr54]

Drexler says hi

I don't believe Drexler was as good. He was just on way better squads.

[L.Kizzle]

I don't believe Drexler was as good. He was just on way better squads.
Really, Mitch played with Mullin and Hardaway. Drexler played with Kevin Duckworth and Terry Porter.

I guarantee you Drexler with Timmy and Mullin make more noise than run TMC.

[ShawkFactory]

Really, Mitch played with Mullin and Hardaway. Drexler played with Kevin Duckworth and Terry Porter.

I guarantee you Drexler with Timmy and Mullin make more noise than run TMC.

How though? The issue is those Warriors teams were absolutely atrocious defensively, particularly underneath. Trading Richmond for Drexler doesn't really solve the problem.

[L.Kizzle]

How though? The issue is those Warriors teams were absolutely atrocious defensively, particularly underneath. Trading Richmond for Drexler doesn't really solve the problem.
He's a flat out better player. Obviously there is a reason Mitch was traded and not Mullin or Timmy.

[bison]

Tim Hardaway isn’t in the HOF only because of lame political reasons. He said something ‘homophobic’ once and I guess that erases his whole career.

[jmcwilliams]

Th original Steph Curry. Cavs player MARK PRICE. No one remembers this guy, but he was a precursor to Steph curry.

[ShawkFactory]

He's a flat out better player. Obviously there is a reason Mitch was traded and not Mullin or Timmy.

Sure he is. But I'm not sure he's moving the needle for that team and turning them into a contender. They had major issues that he doesn't completely solve.