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PETRO2222
01-09-2022, 08:37 AM
Considering Superstars troughout NBA history, I would dare to say (to me personally) that LeBron have one of, if not THE MOST UGLY STYLE of playing EVER. Ok, I admit, his moves are effective ofcourse, but IT LOOKS SO UGLY!!!!

Lebron's "Fadeaway" (if someone can even call that a fadeaway) is UGLY AS HELL!!!

Lebron's dunks ARE ALL UGLY, in comparison to MJ, Vince Carter, Kobe etc... LeBron is like some bricklayer when dunking.

Lebron's shooting release IS UGLY AS HELL.

Lebron ASSISTS ARE UGLY AS HELL, nothing beautiful even in his assists, he looks like to me on court like; Arnold Schwarzenegger with ball.

Overall; he has ONE UGLY STYLE OF PLAYING... UGLY STYLE OF PLAYING from start of his career till the end. UGLY AS HELL!!!

And to love that? NEVER!!!

I can respect his effectivness and success, but his style? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, UGLY AS FU...ING HELL.

pandiani17
01-09-2022, 08:43 AM
OP= THE MOST UGLY STYLE OF TROLLING in history of Insidehoops?

Lebron23
01-09-2022, 08:46 AM
Considering Superstars troughout NBA history, I would dare to say (to me personally) that LeBron have one of, if not THE MOST UGLY STYLE of playing EVER. Ok, I admit, his moves are effective ofcourse, but IT LOOKS SO UGLY!!!!

Lebron's "Fadeaway" (if someone can even call that a fadeaway) is UGLY AS HELL!!!

Lebron's dunks ARE ALL UGLY, in comparison to MJ, Vince Carter, Kobe etc... LeBron is like some bricklayer when dunking.

Lebron's shooting release IS UGLY AS HELL.

Lebron ASSISTS ARE UGLY AS HELL, nothing beautiful even in his assists, he looks like to me on court like; Arnold Schwarzenegger with ball.

Overall; he has ONE UGLY STYLE OF PLAYING... UGLY STYLE OF PLAYING from start of his career till the end. UGLY AS HELL!!!

And to love that? NEVER!!!

I can respect his effectivness and success, but his style? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, UGLY AS FU...ING HELL.

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Lebron23
01-09-2022, 08:46 AM
OP= THE MOST UGLY STYLE OF TROLLING in history of Insidehoops?

Just report all of his posts. Time for Jeff to ban him.

PETRO2222
01-09-2022, 08:49 AM
OP= THE MOST UGLY STYLE OF TROLLING in history of Insidehoops?

Im just sayin the facts, Lebron style of playing IS UGLY AS HELL, I dont know who can be in AWE of his "artistry", what artistry? It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger with ball, or better yet: TERMINATOR with ball, wow, what an artistry man.

Go and watch Magic and see Michelangelo on the court doin his stuff, then go watch this BRICKLAYER.

Im not taking anything away from LeBron's legacy, Im just STATING THE FACT HE HAS ONE UGLY STYLE OF PLAYING, UGLY UGLY UGLY AS HELL, and that's a ****...ing fact.

Everythin he does is UGLY with NO GRACE (farrrrrrrrrrrr away from it): fadeways UGLY, shooting UGLY, dunks UGLY and BORING, assists UGLY AS HELL, like terminator is giving assists ROFL, and you know this is a God... da..n TRUTH.

But hey, it's not Lebron's fault, it is what it is, and IT IS UGLY.

Compare his style with style of Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird, T-Mac, Iverson, etc etc etc etc etc etc... and you will KNOW THE FACT, which is: Lebron = the UGLIEST STYLE OF PLAYING in history of NBA superstars.

PETRO2222
01-09-2022, 08:49 AM
Just report all of his posts. Time for Jeff to ban him.

Why would someone ban me? Because I find Lebron's style of playing UGLY? it is ugly so what? Everyone knows it, it's not his fault he cannot play with grace and artistry, the man plays like ANDROID, so what, is that for ban?

Johnny32
01-09-2022, 09:05 AM
your opinion isn't a fact. lebron's game is far more exciting to watch than kobe's game imo.

Shaquille O'Neal
01-09-2022, 09:07 AM
This thread is priceless. Someone responded with "Your an idiot"...which means that person is an idiot because they don't know the difference between "you're" and "your". No, it's YOUR girl, YOUR car, but "you are" a fuktard.

Full Court
01-09-2022, 09:36 AM
Just report all of his posts. Time for Jeff to ban him.

Wow, you are mentally weak.

Full Court
01-09-2022, 09:38 AM
I agree with OP that Brony's style is very unasthetic. It doesn't have that impressive wow factor that other superstars have. However, the important thing is that the ball goes in the hoop, no matter how ugly it is, so in that regard, it's kind of irrelevant how pretty it looks.

3ba11
01-09-2022, 09:51 AM
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Thread Cliffs

Lebron is a football player that is playing basketball, so he looks clunky and herky-jerky as hell (lacks the top caliber of skill, aka smooth)

OP spot-on

k0kakw0rld
01-09-2022, 12:35 PM
36,170 points

ShawkFactory
01-09-2022, 12:40 PM
What is aesthetic passing?

beasted
01-09-2022, 12:46 PM
Funny, but true. Even the fanboys have to acknowledge:

Players and fans-alike were out here imitating Dr. J finger rolls, Magic passes, Bird jumper, Jordan fadaway/tongue/reverse layups/etc, Hakeem shake, Kobe footwork/jumper, Curry quick release.... Etc etc.

Nobody is trying to mimic anything from LeBron. If I'm wrong, tell me what they're trying to do.

k0kakw0rld
01-09-2022, 12:50 PM
You got to appreciate what the man has accomplished. The fact that no one can imitate him is something to glorify. He is unique and that is one of the many reasons why I appreciate him. A football looking-like player passed Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan in points. That is quite impressive if you ask me.

beasted
01-09-2022, 12:53 PM
You got to appreciate what the man has accomplished. The fact that no one can imitate him is something to glorify. He is unique and that is one of the many reasons why I appreciate him. A football looking-like player passed Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan in points.
I don't think this thread is about his effectiveness.

There are also plenty of unique and effective players that nobody wants to copy either (think Kareem skyhook, Duncan off the glass jumper, etc.). It's not a knock on their all-time greatness at all.

But the truth is nobody likes LeBron moves either. Besides the ones I mentioned already, you have Iverson crossover, CP3 pull up, etc. I can go on. But LeBron's moves just aren't appeasing to fans to copy. If someone can find some they see players copying I'm genuinely interested.

Akeem34TheDream
01-09-2022, 01:30 PM
Him or Giannis. I think it's Giannis.

k0kakw0rld
01-09-2022, 01:40 PM
I don't think this thread is about his effectiveness.

There are also plenty of unique and effective players that nobody wants to copy either (think Kareem skyhook, Duncan off the glass jumper, etc.). It's not a knock on their all-time greatness at all.

But the truth is nobody likes LeBron moves either. Besides the ones I mentioned already, you have Iverson crossover, CP3 pull up, etc. I can go on. But LeBron's moves just aren't appeasing to fans to copy. If someone can find some they see players copying I'm genuinely interested.
LeBron's game can not be copied. The man is unique. Just appreciate stop hating for no reason.

Spurs m8
01-09-2022, 02:18 PM
Yeah always said this...ugly.

Especially his dunks, boring AF.

And yeah, we get it, if you win then that's what matters....
Problem is, he can't even do that without deck stacking and then resetting every few years.

FKAri
01-09-2022, 02:38 PM
I think basketball is just an ugly game in general. Therefore it only makes sense that its greatest players are ugly as well. Both physically and in their awkward physical movements on the court.

warriorfan
01-09-2022, 02:41 PM
Pounding the rock at the top of the key and barreling into the lane for a kick out pass to the corner or a sloppy lay up

Very boring.

Spurs m8
01-09-2022, 02:47 PM
Pounding the rock at the top of the key and barreling into the lane for a kick out pass to the corner or a sloppy lay up

Very boring.

Yeah the pounding the rock is just team killing.
These days he just stands there holding the rock for ever, then hands off some shitty pass

Full Court
01-09-2022, 02:55 PM
Funny, but true. Even the fanboys have to acknowledge:

Players and fans-alike were out here imitating Dr. J finger rolls, Magic passes, Bird jumper, Jordan fadaway/tongue/reverse layups/etc, Hakeem shake, Kobe footwork/jumper, Curry quick release.... Etc etc.

Nobody is trying to mimic anything from LeBron. If I'm wrong, tell me what they're trying to do.

Not entirely true. I, personally, try to mimic his stiff-arming and traveling.

Kblaze8855
01-09-2022, 03:30 PM
I don’t know. Sometimes when I think about it it just feels generational. The ugliest style of play in history to me….is James Harden:




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and I feel perfectly reasonable saying that. It’s just ugly to watch. And Lebron has a lot of that too.

But being real I’m not sure how different it is than Magic, Barkley, or Mark Jackson backing down for literally 12-15 seconds. And I didn’t mind that.

There is a little bit of hater in all sports fans for the next couple generations and the way they wanna play. And it goes back literally 100 years till coaches trying to ban players over 6’7” because they could dunk. And when they realized short guys could dunk too they wanted to ban the dunk or raise the rim. Phog Allen flatly said dunks aren’t basketball. That we lost the beauty in the game when dunking got popular…..in the 1940s.

Watching the giants take over was boring to people which is why they kept expanding the lane.

After fans got used to that we got the era of super athletes and iso slashers who couldn’t be guarded. Jordan. Nique. Isiah. People you couldn’t guard for whatever reason in an iso.

Rod Thorn was on the competition committee and said it was getting away from what they game should be about. People called it the Jordan rule at times. You never see it discussed but here it is:


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Illegal offense. From 1987 when they announced the change:




There has been a growing propensity among coaches to move three men above the top of the key, thus clearing the way for two-man games or individual forays like those of Chicago's Michael Jordan.






Old heads of the day did not like the individual style of Jordan and Nique.


How does anyone not wanna see Jordan taking people off the dribble?


Turns out it was a lot like now. We put everyone in corners so Lebron and Harden can dribble and back then they moved guys on the other side of the floor to take advantage of illegal defense rules allowing one on one play.


Old people at the time thought that shit was the death of fundamentals. They all preferred Birds style.

So really….I don’t even know anymore. I know I hate the modern stand around while one guy dribbles then someone might get a kick out 3 or take an ugly one against the clock but…in 20 years todays young people will say whatever the people are doing in 2042 is boring.

It might just be 130 years of old men yelling at clouds. People have been saying whatever/whoever is successful isn’t as fun to watch as it used to be since at least the 1930s when people wanted to ban anyone over 6’7” from international play when America destroyed a bunch of European midgets.


The problem really could just be us. I know people who don’t think Stephs style is even basketball. We all end up wanting the game to be played like when we were 16.

Harden and Lebron occasionally do bore more. I just…can’t say for sure that I’m not being the same kinda old haters who wanted to stop Jordan and Nique. Or Wilt and Kareem. Or Mikan before them. Or Jumpin Joe Fulks.

The people my age generally….don’t **** with the scorers of the time. Maybe it’s not them. Maybe it’s us.

HylianNightmare
01-09-2022, 03:33 PM
I don't like allot of his offensive game but his passes are beautiful. Give credit where it's due

Legend248
01-09-2022, 03:34 PM
Wow, you are mentally weak.

Of course he is, his b**ch is Lebron....both mentally weak ******s

ShawkFactory
01-09-2022, 03:42 PM
Pounding the rock at the top of the key and barreling into the lane for a kick out pass to the corner or a sloppy lay up

Very boring.

Oh is that how he plays?

Kblaze8855
01-09-2022, 03:42 PM
One thing that annoys me a bit. The nba changed rules to make it harder on bigs they deemed boring and too dominant. They changed rules to limit Jordan and others isolations. They banned Barkley style backdowns for being slow and boring. But Harden and Lebron dribbling in place for 12 seconds isn’t stopped?


All I want is a 5 second closely guarded rule. It’s still used in some high schools and college levels. If someone is guarding you close for 5 seconds you have to shoot or pass:



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Would solve half the problem overnight.

PETRO2222
01-09-2022, 04:25 PM
Funny, but true. Even the fanboys have to acknowledge:

Players and fans-alike were out here imitating Dr. J finger rolls, Magic passes, Bird jumper, Jordan fadaway/tongue/reverse layups/etc, Hakeem shake, Kobe footwork/jumper, Curry quick release.... Etc etc.

Nobody is trying to mimic anything from LeBron. If I'm wrong, tell me what they're trying to do.

What is there to mimic when it comes about LeBron? how to play ugly as much as possible? lol

P.S. As I've said in my OP, I am giving him respect regarding his success in the NBA, but cammon man... that style of playing of his... IT IS UGLY AS HELL... AND I MEAN: U-G-L-Y.

I never in my life when watchin any of LeBron moves said NOTHING CLOSE to: "OMG THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL", He is like an android, I mean even TERMINATOR would have better style of playing.

It's just that LeBron's style is UGLY STYLE and so what, that's it.

PETRO2222
01-09-2022, 04:32 PM
You got to appreciate what the man has accomplished. The fact that no one can imitate him is something to glorify. He is unique and that is one of the many reasons why I appreciate him. A football looking-like player passed Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan in points. That is quite impressive if you ask me.

LOL

Jesus Christ man, first of all I appreciate what the man has accomplished, but NO ONE WANTS TO IMITATE HIM BECAUSE IT'S A FU..ING UGLY STYLE of playing, have you seen him shooting, passing, dunking, dribling etc? Have you? It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger giving a pass lol... jesus... IT MAKES ME PUKE when I watch LeBron style and not to play basketball.

I can't wait his time ends, and its very close, it will be FINALLY comeback of BASKETBALL after this UGLY ASS basketball of his, nevermind who comes after him.

PETRO2222
01-09-2022, 04:33 PM
LeBron's game can not be copied. The man is unique. Just appreciate stop hating for no reason.

NO ONE WANTS TO COPY THAT UGLY SH...IT EVEN IF SOMEONE COULD, dont you get it??? IT'S UGLY PLAYING, nevermind his effect on the game, Jesus mother of God.

Axe
01-09-2022, 05:53 PM
Lol rudy gobert's game seemed more uglier to be honest. And that guy is just an elite role player btw.

Hey Yo
01-09-2022, 06:01 PM
Funny, but true. Even the fanboys have to acknowledge:

Players and fans-alike were out here imitating Dr. J finger rolls, Magic passes, Bird jumper, Jordan fadaway/tongue/reverse layups/etc, Hakeem shake, Kobe footwork/jumper, Curry quick release.... Etc etc.

Nobody is trying to mimic anything from LeBron. If I'm wrong, tell me what they're trying to do.

How does one imitate Bird's jump shot? Do they just catch the ball and take a jumper? What are they imitating?

FilmyCogTurner
01-09-2022, 06:05 PM
One thing that annoys me a bit. The nba changed rules to make it harder on bigs they deemed boring and too dominant. They changed rules to limit Jordan and others isolations. They banned Barkley style backdowns for being slow and boring. But Harden and Lebron dribbling in place for 12 seconds isn’t stopped?


All I want is a 5 second closely guarded rule. It’s still used in some high schools and college levels. If someone is guarding you close for 5 seconds you have to shoot or pass:



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Would solve half the problem overnight.

I get what you're saying but isn't that we have shot clocks for?

If anything the NBA has imposed too many rules into the game. I like that they've brought back some of the physicality, that was a step in the right direction.

What the NBA needs to do is ignore the different play styles, set the parameters and let the game play itself out. Basketball will be basketball and the league will be better for it.

Kblaze8855
01-09-2022, 06:07 PM
Yeah back then we would imitate Doctor J, Magic, Isiah, Jordan, and somehow everyone’s dad and some moms could do a sky hook.

Kblaze8855
01-09-2022, 06:11 PM
I get what you're saying but isn't that we have shot clocks for?

If anything the NBA has imposed too many rules into the game. I like that they've brought back some of the physicality, that was a step in the right direction.

What the NBA needs to do is ignore the different play styles, set the parameters and let the game play itself out. Basketball will be basketball and the league will be better for it.



What I’m saying the NBA has a history of making boring but effective play styles illegal or at least limiting them for the greater good. Now though it seems they encourage it. I suppose the slight change in calling contact is a step in the right direction though.

Spurs m8
01-09-2022, 06:14 PM
and somehow everyone’s dad and some moms could do a sky hook.

This is so true :roll:

FilmyCogTurner
01-09-2022, 06:16 PM
What I’m saying the NBA has a history of making boring but effective play styles illegal or at least limiting them for the greater good. Now though it seems they encourage it. I suppose the slight change in calling contact is a step in the right direction though.

Almost seems like the style of play today was unavoidable. A natural evolution.

I'm sure we all think this at the time but I really don't see how the game can evolve from here. Seems like to me the one player pounding the ball with his teammates on the arc is here to stay.

LeCola
01-09-2022, 06:38 PM
https://youtu.be/-jqjZ2vfsuY

beasted
01-09-2022, 06:42 PM
How does one imitate Bird's jump shot? Do they just catch the ball and take a jumper? What are they imitating?
You must be a little kid who was born in 1994 or something.

Every idiot was out there practicing these one handed granny looking jumpers in the 80s.

Axe
01-09-2022, 06:44 PM
You must be a little kid who was born in 1994 or something.
:roll:

k0kakw0rld
01-09-2022, 06:47 PM
LOL

Jesus Christ man, first of all I appreciate what the man has accomplished, but NO ONE WANTS TO IMITATE HIM BECAUSE IT'S A FU..ING UGLY STYLE of playing, have you seen him shooting, passing, dunking, dribling etc? Have you? It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger giving a pass lol... jesus... IT MAKES ME PUKE when I watch LeBron style and not to play basketball.

I can't wait his time ends, and its very close, it will be FINALLY comeback of BASKETBALL after this UGLY ASS basketball of his, nevermind who comes after him.
Who cares 36,170 points.

k0kakw0rld
01-09-2022, 06:48 PM
NO ONE WANTS TO COPY THAT UGLY SH...IT EVEN IF SOMEONE COULD, dont you get it??? IT'S UGLY PLAYING, nevermind his effect on the game, Jesus mother of God.

Why are you typing in caps? Lol are you ok?

Hey Yo
01-09-2022, 06:51 PM
You must be a little kid who was born in 1994 or something.

Every idiot was out there practicing these one handed granny looking jumpers in the 80s.

All.... so you have links of Bird routinely shooting one handed jumpers in game?

I guarantee you nobody who read your post instantly thought of "granny style one handed jumper" after reading "imitating Bird's jumper"

FKAri
01-09-2022, 07:06 PM
Funny, but true. Even the fanboys have to acknowledge:

Players and fans-alike were out here imitating Dr. J finger rolls, Magic passes, Bird jumper, Jordan fadaway/tongue/reverse layups/etc, Hakeem shake, Kobe footwork/jumper, Curry quick release.... Etc etc.

Nobody is trying to mimic anything from LeBron. If I'm wrong, tell me what they're trying to do.

Kids across the courts are too busy imitating an even uglier game: James Harden.


The ugliest style of play in history to me….is James Harden
Thank you.

Gudo
01-09-2022, 07:12 PM
It is ugly. No other player tries to imitate anything that he does. No kid wants to look playing like lebron.

Kblaze8855
01-09-2022, 07:16 PM
Oh yeah you wouldn’t notice it if you don’t spend time watching serious young players but Harden is the whole next generation. You think it’s Steph because of all the long ass threes but these kids don’t practice off the ball movement because you really can’t. The gym rat kids studying moves and effectively putting them in their games? They all look like Harden. I’ve spent a little time around a college program near here the last year or so and the Harden influence is clear.

tpols
01-09-2022, 07:17 PM
You can't really "copy" LeBron game since its predicated on him simply overpowering and out running everybody and if there's help doing a simple kick out. Yea he has flashy passes sometimes but anybody whose ever averaged 5+ assists has that. Its mostly just PnR attack mismatch, if help comes dish it to wide open guy. He plays a checkers brand of ball and has no signature moves... unless you're 6'9 270 and can run a sub 4.5 40 yard dash. Good luck.

I also don't believe there should be any 5 second back down or dribble rule. If guys want to play low IQ and get beat by ball movement teams most of the time let the results speak for themselves. One guy taking up a whole possession allows 3-4 other defenders to rest which will make the team fresher for offense and in general.

The biggest grievance I have with rules is that they allow offensive players to slam dudes out of the way but if a defender lays a pinky on them its a foul. Its gotten to the point where an offensive player can elbow slam a dude into the 2nd row and get an and1 on a blocking call. That's just..... not basketball.

Kblaze8855
01-09-2022, 07:21 PM
Something I just remembered….

Who else laughed in the early 2000s when people would try to copy the KG shimmy fadeaway?

Im not sure anyone ever hit one on me but I blocked a lot. And I had already lost my hops by then. People would shimmy like 3 times too many and get that shit tossed to the outer limits.

Spurs m8
01-09-2022, 07:27 PM
https://youtu.be/-jqjZ2vfsuY

Omfg hahahaha

So good...and then that ending :roll::roll::roll:

Bankaii
01-09-2022, 07:32 PM
The funny thing is that all the people calling his game ugly will be the most frequent posters in the Lakers thread tonight lmao.

ShawkFactory
01-09-2022, 07:55 PM
You can't really "copy" LeBron game since its predicated on him simply overpowering and out running everybody and if there's help doing a simple kick out. Yea he has flashy passes sometimes but anybody whose ever averaged 5+ assists has that. Its mostly just PnR attack mismatch, if help comes dish it to wide open guy. He plays a checkers brand of ball and has no signature moves... unless you're 6'9 270 and can run a sub 4.5 40 yard dash. Good luck.

I also don't believe there should be any 5 second back down or dribble rule. If guys want to play low IQ and get beat by ball movement teams most of the time let the results speak for themselves. One guy taking up a whole possession allows 3-4 other defenders to rest which will make the team fresher for offense and in general.

The biggest grievance I have with rules is that they allow offensive players to slam dudes out of the way but if a defender lays a pinky on them its a foul. Its gotten to the point where an offensive player can elbow slam a dude into the 2nd row and get an and1 on a blocking call. That's just..... not basketball.

You’re off base on the passing aspect. Part of what Lebron does that separates him from everyone else are the little things.

There was a play in the game against the Hawks where he was fighting for an offensive board and without even controlling the ball whatsoever fisted a pass out to Reeves I believe who was wide open in the corner. Don’t remember if he made the shot but I remember thinking that no one makes that play but him. It was lighting quick. 50/50 ball underneath to Reeves pulling a jumper in a split second.

He’s always had a way with coming down with the ball in traffic while keeping his eyes upfield (cause I know your a football guy). It’s not really flashy but it’s something that he can do at a level that I’ve personally never seen. I’d assume Magic had similar ability as a big guy to do that. But it was pretty impressive.

Spurs m8
01-09-2022, 07:57 PM
The funny thing is that all the people calling his game ugly will be the most frequent posters in the Lakers thread tonight lmao.

I fail to see the funny side.

No need to be so sensitive tbh

tpols
01-09-2022, 08:06 PM
You’re off base on the passing aspect. Part of what Lebron does that separates him from everyone else are the little things.

There was a play in the game against the Hawks where he was fighting for an offensive board and without even controlling the ball whatsoever fisted a pass out to Reeves I believe who was wide open in the corner. Don’t remember if he made the shot but I remember thinking that no one makes that play but him. It was lighting quick. 50/50 ball underneath to Reeves pulling a jumper in a split second.

He’s always had a way with coming down with the ball in traffic while keeping his eyes upfield (cause I know your a football guy). It’s not really flashy but it’s something that he can do at a level that I’ve personally never seen. I’d assume Magic had similar ability as a big guy to do that. But it was pretty impressive.

Magic is the closest thing to LeBron except he dimed 50+% more... which is massive given similar ball domination.

Magic first and foremost made others better. LeBron makes himself better and if you happen to be open will kick it.

The team assist numbers don't lie. Magics Lakers had GOAT team assist ranks up there with Bird Celtics and Curry Warriors. LeBron teams? They simply don't. They don't have anywhere near the ball movement or fit.

It is what it is.

Hey Yo
01-09-2022, 08:23 PM
Magic wasn't asked to look to score first and pass 2nd until 1987... his 8th year in the league.

James was expected to do both for the Cavs from the opening tip of his career

Plus Magic was never expected to anchor a defense at any moment of his career.

SouBeachTalents
01-09-2022, 08:35 PM
Do we have to be so hyperbolic, ugliest style of play in "history" :lol I don't care how much you hate LeBron

1. Anyone who thinks his game is uglier than Giannis' or Harden's is tripping. Those two are brutal to watch

2. I find it hard to believe anyone could find his passing ugly or boring

ShawkFactory
01-09-2022, 08:47 PM
Magic is the closest thing to LeBron except he dimed 50+% more... which is massive given similar ball domination.

Magic first and foremost made others better. LeBron makes himself better and if you happen to be open will kick it.

The team assist numbers don't lie. Magics Lakers had GOAT team assist ranks up there with Bird Celtics and Curry Warriors. LeBron teams? They simply don't. They don't have anywhere near the ball movement or fit.

It is what it is.

I wasn’t talking about making others better really. Magic made others better because he was unselfish and blatantly would give away 5-6 points a game for himself to someone else. His game was dimes, and people appreciated that he’d give it to them if they did their due diligence. So they did.

I was more discussing ability. Not assist numbers or turnovers or whatever bullshit comes about this forum all day every day.

Bron can do things passing/court vision wise that no one else can do. Flat out.

Bankaii
01-09-2022, 09:10 PM
I fail to see the funny side.

No need to be so sensitive tbh
Didn’t you claim you had a newborn? Wtf are you on here? You’re here every single day 24/7 crying about Lebron.
You’re right, it’s not funny it’s just said.

Bankaii
01-09-2022, 09:12 PM
Do we have to be so hyperbolic, ugliest style of play in "history" :lol I don't care how much you hate LeBron

1. Anyone who thinks his game is uglier than Giannis' or Harden's is tripping. Those two are brutal to watch

2. I find it hard to believe anyone could find his passing ugly or boring
Most of the people that call his game are lying their asses off.
Lebron is by far the most watched player on this forum. Even if they only watching him to see him fail, they can’t miss a single game.

TheGoatest
01-09-2022, 09:21 PM
Facts say that LeBron is the greatest basketball player of all time.
All this rest subjective crap haters post because they don't have factual arguments:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

Axe
01-09-2022, 09:32 PM
It's very funny that people here act as if there are big rewards for telling who's their goat. No way you get rich with this shit unless there's really some intriguing secret kickback rt i suppose. :oldlol:

Gudo
01-09-2022, 09:34 PM
Facts say that LeBron is the greatest basketball player of all time.
All this rest subjective crap haters post because they don't have factual arguments:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

People do watch the game first and foremost and get the enjoyment out of actually watching the game.

outofstomach
01-10-2022, 12:14 AM
all this harden hate is pretty cringe. one of the smoothest players dribbling, fantastic finisher, buttery jumper etc. you could just simply say you don’t like the isoing, the actual aesthetic of his game though? very nice imo

SpaceJam
01-10-2022, 12:19 AM
It's very funny that people here act as if there are big rewards for telling who's their goat. No way you get rich with this shit unless there's really some intriguing secret kickback rt i suppose. :oldlol:

It's even funnier arguing it seriously, I'll do it for some entertainment when I've got nothing on. But it's not like a Bron fan is going to see a 3ball thread and think "ahh fvck he's right, Jordan is now my GOAT" :roll:

beasted
01-10-2022, 12:22 AM
All.... so you have links of Bird routinely shooting one handed jumpers in game?

I guarantee you nobody who read your post instantly thought of "granny style one handed jumper" after reading "imitating Bird's jumper"

It's hyperbole. His support hand sits on the side of the ball in a unique way that looks old fashioned to me. It's hard to describe. Go watch Bird and then watch Matt Bonner. Bonner was an exaggerated version of Bird how quick his support hand goes away much quicker than other shooters and it's like a one handed push, and there were plenty of kids chucking up shots that way on purpose to mimic Bird.

Axe
01-10-2022, 12:48 AM
It's even funnier arguing it seriously, I'll do it for some entertainment when I've got nothing on. But it's not like a Bron fan is going to see a 3ball thread and think "ahh fvck he's right, Jordan is now my GOAT" :roll:
Lmao he has like over a thousand threads talking about them as well as pippen

2much_knowledge
01-10-2022, 01:28 AM
your opinion isn't a fact. lebron's game is far more exciting to watch than kobe's game imo.

2016 kobe? I agree then

Kblaze8855
01-10-2022, 01:38 AM
all this harden hate is pretty cringe. one of the smoothest players dribbling, fantastic finisher, buttery jumper etc. you could just simply say you don’t like the isoing, the actual aesthetic of his game though? very nice imo

There is no entertaining way to ISO that much when you don’t make many spectacular plays in the process. It’s either a stepback or a stepback and fall to try for a 4 point play or a drive into a floater. Either way it’s hardly amazing to see after he stands in place dribbling for a while setting it up. He does more now than in Houston but he’s getting older.

When he first started that style it was at least new and something weird to appreciate. After 4-5 years of stepback flops it just stopped being fun.

He lost the variety. Steph shoots even more theees than Harden but he doesn’t do it in boring fashion.

Johnny32
01-10-2022, 01:41 AM
2016 kobe? I agree then

young lebron through his peak > any version of chuckobe and it isn't even close as far as exciting to watch.

outofstomach
01-10-2022, 01:46 AM
There is no entertaining way to ISO that much when you don’t make many spectacular plays in the process. It’s either a stepback or a stepback and fall to try for a 4 point play or a drive into a floater. Either way it’s hardly amazing to see after he stands in place dribbling for a while setting it up. He does more now than in Houston but he’s getting older.

When he first started that style it was at least new and something weird to appreciate. After 4-5 years of stepback flops it just stopped being fun.

He lost the variety. Steph shoots even more theees than Harden but he doesn’t do it in boring fashion.
i get what you mean. steph is a little different though imo because he can obviously pull from literally anywhere he feels like, so his game is a lot more open than harden’s who usually has to pull something out of his ass to get a shot off

i personally find it endlessly entertaining how he can blow by defenders at will and even often make them look silly with a few select moves and well placed finishes. it’s diminished a bit post-injury, but i always admired how effortless and simple he pretty much keeps his game. i try to emulate his style when i play (obv minus the foul baiting and im nowhere near the type of shooter he is)

TheGoatest
01-10-2022, 03:31 AM
Funny, but true. Even the fanboys have to acknowledge:

Players and fans-alike were out here imitating Dr. J finger rolls, Magic passes, Bird jumper, Jordan fadaway/tongue/reverse layups/etc, Hakeem shake, Kobe footwork/jumper, Curry quick release.... Etc etc.

Nobody is trying to mimic anything from LeBron. If I'm wrong, tell me what they're trying to do.

Imagine having the audacity to post conjecture-based crap like this in a time where the best current young player in the league has constantly said that he modelled his entire game after LeBron.

Spurs m8
01-10-2022, 03:45 AM
Imagine having the audacity to post conjecture-based crap like this in a time where the best current young player in the league has constantly said that he modelled his entire game after LeBron.

Imagine this lying little rat having the audacity to call someone out :roll:

Right, bro, we all respect your daily lies!!

TheGoatest
01-10-2022, 04:06 AM
Imagine this lying little rat having the audacity to call someone out :roll:

Right, bro, we all respect your daily lies!!

Did you make your daily "nobody cares" posts on literally every LeBron-related thread today?

You are well-documented of saying that AD is empty stats in 2019, yet are constantly praising him since 2020. And I'm the liar? :roll:

beasted
01-10-2022, 04:15 AM
Imagine having the audacity to post conjecture-based crap like this in a time where the best current young player in the league has constantly said that he modelled his entire game after LeBron.

First, is Luka even the best young player? Second, modeled is very vague. Modeling his game could mean decision making, playing as a point SF (If he wants to be a Point SF, is he going to REALLY model after players from before he was born - Bird? Pippen, Odom? No.). Lastly, he mentioned in interviews as well how much time he spends watching Harden. And what do you know, he copied his step-back. What moves has he copied from LeBron?

TheGoatest
01-10-2022, 04:27 AM
First, is Luka even the best young player? Second, modeled is very vague. Modeling his game could mean decision making, playing as a point SF (If he wants to be a Point SF, is he going to REALLY model after players from before he was born - Bird? Pippen, Odom? No.). Lastly, he mentioned in interviews as well how much time he spends watching Harden. And what do you know, he copied his step-back. What moves has he copied from LeBron?

He is 22 and has two All-NBA 1st team selections.
No 22 year-old has even a single All-NBA 3rd team selection.

Yeah, look at him mention Harden here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHAiSxi3fQ0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzckGfT6obM

:roll:

James Harden invented the stepback? :roll:

TheGoatest
01-10-2022, 07:13 AM
Using only his most recent performance, I was watching the Mavs-Bulls highlights from last night's game and noticed how Luka uses LeBron's patented, crafty step-back move where he uses his back to create space between him and his opponent on Lonzo Ball at the 1:50 mark here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUJx5Gpl2LQ

Then there's also this great use of LeBron's legendary fast-break spin move:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waQLgV4bYyM

Not to mention the biggest compliment to LeBron, which is modelling his game after LeBron in general.

Emulating LeGOATest's game while he was growing up has gotten this kid two All-NBA 1st team selections at the age of 22. LeBron taught him well. :applause:

Bronbron23
01-10-2022, 08:55 AM
Considering Superstars troughout NBA history, I would dare to say (to me personally) that LeBron have one of, if not THE MOST UGLY STYLE of playing EVER. Ok, I admit, his moves are effective ofcourse, but IT LOOKS SO UGLY!!!!

Lebron's "Fadeaway" (if someone can even call that a fadeaway) is UGLY AS HELL!!!

Lebron's dunks ARE ALL UGLY, in comparison to MJ, Vince Carter, Kobe etc... LeBron is like some bricklayer when dunking.

Lebron's shooting release IS UGLY AS HELL.

Lebron ASSISTS ARE UGLY AS HELL, nothing beautiful even in his assists, he looks like to me on court like; Arnold Schwarzenegger with ball.

Overall; he has ONE UGLY STYLE OF PLAYING... UGLY STYLE OF PLAYING from start of his career till the end. UGLY AS HELL!!!

And to love that? NEVER!!!

I can respect his effectivness and success, but his style? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, UGLY AS FU...ING HELL.

Yeah most of his game is ugly but i actually don't mind his fadeaway. He dosn't get the air time mj did but he actually fades more

bullettooth
01-10-2022, 11:03 AM
LeBron's footwork is by far the ugliest part of his game. Every move he makes just looks clunky. The training he did with Hakeem clearly had no effect.

Airupthere
01-10-2022, 12:11 PM
Thank you OP! Lebron's game is so fkn ugly, his own stans can't stand it and resort to admiring his stats more than watching his game.

Just to highlight how comical Lebron plays, this impersonator is not even exaggerating as bad as Lebron flops. Yes, Lebron plays ugly. :roll:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jqjZ2vfsuY

beasted
01-10-2022, 12:32 PM
:roll:

James Harden invented the stepback? :roll:

Keep showing us how much of a clown you are:


Luka Doncic says he's studied James Harden's game, "especially the drawing fouls and the stepback. I watch a lot of his film, for sure." A lot of basketball people consider Harden the best comp for Doncic.
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1095186107875184640?s=20

j3lademaster
01-10-2022, 01:14 PM
One thing that annoys me a bit. The nba changed rules to make it harder on bigs they deemed boring and too dominant. They changed rules to limit Jordan and others isolations. They banned Barkley style backdowns for being slow and boring. But Harden and Lebron dribbling in place for 12 seconds isn’t stopped?


All I want is a 5 second closely guarded rule. It’s still used in some high schools and college levels. If someone is guarding you close for 5 seconds you have to shoot or pass:



https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FastTornAustralianfurseal-size_restricted.gif





Would solve half the problem overnight.I think you'll have a nice short-term change, but it'll just end up like traveling or 3 second violations with no one really enforcing it.

bullettooth
01-10-2022, 01:18 PM
Thank you OP! Lebron's game is so fkn ugly, his own stans can't stand it and resort to admiring his stats more than watching his game.

Just to highlight how comical Lebron plays, this impersonator is not even exaggerating as bad as Lebron flops. Yes, Lebron plays ugly. :roll:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jqjZ2vfsuY

Has anyone else noticed how everytime LeBron does something stupid in-game (turnover, airballs a freethrow, etc) he's do this thing where he runs his hands across his chest, as if he's fixing his jersey and pretends to have an innocent look on his face?

TheGoatest
01-10-2022, 01:42 PM
Keep showing us how much of a clown you are:


https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1095186107875184640?s=20

Keep showing us how desperate you are.

I just showed you two videos where Luka says "LeBron" right away without thinking twice. You think you know some insider knowledge by mentioning that he also admired Harden? You think I didn't know that? He admired Spanoulis and Llull as well. But he always mentions LeBron first.

How many players base their game off one player, and one player only? Show me that?

You knew that taking the facts/numbers route would lead you to a dead end. So you tried the subjective/conjecture based route and said that no kid attempted to emulate LeBron's game because it was "ugly" or whatever. Well, I showed you not only a kid who always mentions LeBron as his main inspiration, but the best player in the NBA who is younger than 26. At least 26. And he's only 22.

Axe
01-10-2022, 08:00 PM
Keep showing us how much of a clown you are:


https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1095186107875184640?s=20
:oldlol:

Spurs m8
01-10-2022, 08:11 PM
Has anyone else noticed how everytime LeBron does something stupid in-game (turnover, airballs a freethrow, etc) he's do this thing where he runs his hands across his chest, as if he's fixing his jersey and pretends to have an innocent look on his face?

It's the jerseys fault, mate.

Nothing is ever his fault

Airupthere
01-12-2022, 03:30 PM
Has anyone else noticed how everytime LeBron does something stupid in-game (turnover, airballs a freethrow, etc) he's do this thing where he runs his hands across his chest, as if he's fixing his jersey and pretends to have an innocent look on his face?

:oldlol: someone should make a compilation of that stupid face

bullettooth
01-12-2022, 04:46 PM
:oldlol: someone should make a compilation of that stupid face


https://youtu.be/_ZlvjFqb5kE?t=150

Even Jalen Rose says "LeBron at least wiped his chest!" at 2:35

Spurs m8
01-12-2022, 05:12 PM
https://youtu.be/_ZlvjFqb5kE?t=150

Even Jalen Rose says "LeBron at least wiped his chest!" at 2:35

This is so embarrassing.
Not only the lack of D, but always scolding his team mates when he's the one in the wrong.

Story of his career....entitled and always everyone else's fault.

Cancer to play with on offense AND D and the locker room...no wonder Westbrook was the only one who said Yes when they got the call from the War Room

Someone needs to make a compilation of D when he's been playing C...its comical.

Gudo
01-12-2022, 05:39 PM
https://youtu.be/-jqjZ2vfsuY

he moves exactly like lebron. :roll: the last play is hilarious af

lol at the stupid fancy passing.