View Full Version : Kuzma is a legitimate star now?
ImKobe
01-10-2022, 12:12 AM
27/22 in his latest game against Orlando :bowdown:
He's averaging 24/12 over his last 9 games and he's a god in crunch time.
We lost him, KCP, Trez and Caruso, just to have Westbrook :facepalm
FultzNationRISE
01-10-2022, 12:13 AM
27/22 in his latest game against Orlando :bowdown:
He's averaging 24/12 over his last 9 games and he's a god in crunch time.
We lost him, KCP, Trez and Caruso, just to have Westbrook :facepalm
Typical Lebron, always wanting to take the hardest road.
SpaceJam
01-10-2022, 12:16 AM
Small sample size, can pick a set of 9 games where he averaged like 10. Laughable to even think he's in star consideration
15 PPG on poor efficiency is a star in OP’s book. Yikes.
Lol against the orlando magic which are a sub-10 win team.
ImKobe
01-10-2022, 12:24 AM
Lol against the orlando magic which are a sub-10 win team.
But when Lebron puts up 30 against the worst teams in the league he's better than prime Kobe? lol.
Dray n Klay
01-10-2022, 12:27 AM
But when Lebron puts up 30 against the worst teams in the league he's better than prime Kobe? lol.
Didn't Kobe miss the playoffs in his prime? lol not exactly a high bar to eclipse
beasted
01-10-2022, 12:27 AM
But when Lebron puts up 30 against the worst teams in the league he's better than prime Kobe? lol.
That's how it works. You didn't know?
ImKobe
01-10-2022, 12:30 AM
Didn't Kobe miss the playoffs in his prime? lol not exactly a high bar to eclipse
Lebron missed the Playoffs as a Laker already and he's in danger of missing them yet again. Can't blame his teammates either because he got them there. He got rid of half of the team to get Russ, good job.
SATAN
01-10-2022, 12:32 AM
Lebron :cry::cry::cry:
:facepalm
ImKobe
01-12-2022, 02:03 AM
29/5/3 on 70.5%FG with more clutch buckets against OKC. Make that 8 games of 20+ points in a row for Kuz :bowdown: . It's not a hot 3PT shooting streak either, he's taking his 6-10 ass closer to the paint and it's worked wonders for his game. He's finally maximizing his true potential on a team where he's allowed to make mistakes & have the ball and grow as an individual.
https://youtu.be/eLgECRWvo7Y
bison
01-12-2022, 02:39 AM
No kidding, the dude actually leads the league in 3PTs made in clutch time and has the highest 3PT shooting percentage during clutch time.
bison
01-12-2022, 02:40 AM
27/22 in his latest game against Orlando :bowdown:
He's averaging 24/12 over his last 9 games and he's a god in crunch time.
We lost him, KCP, Trez and Caruso, just to have Westbrook :facepalm
KCP and trez got into a physical fight in the locker room at halftime tonight according to reports :lol
Spurs m8
01-12-2022, 02:53 AM
Happy for him, hope he keeps it up!!
29/5/3 on 70.5%FG with more clutch buckets against OKC. Make that 8 games of 20+ points in a row for Kuz :bowdown: . It's not a hot 3PT shooting streak either, he's taking his 6-10 ass closer to the paint and it's worked wonders for his game. He's finally maximizing his true potential on a team where he's allowed to make mistakes & have the ball and grow as an individual.
https://youtu.be/eLgECRWvo7Y
But, aren't the thunder a rebuilding team?
TheCorporation
01-12-2022, 03:52 AM
15 PPG on poor efficiency is a star in OP’s book. Yikes.
:lol
Spurs m8
01-12-2022, 03:53 AM
But, aren't the thunder a rebuilding team?
That's one game...out of 8.
And no-ones starting 10 new threads every time Kuzma beats a lottery team.
ImKobe
01-12-2022, 04:30 AM
But, aren't the thunder a rebuilding team?
Lakers beat a bunch of rebuilding teams in their recent stretch and you guys have gone apeshit over it. He put up 27/11/3 on 65.7%FG in B2B games against Cleveland & Chicago. Wizards blew the Cavs out in the 1st one and Kuzma hit a go-ahead shot in the 2nd one where DeRozan had his epic game-winner. He also had 36/14/6 against a solid Hornets team the next game.
Lakers beat a bunch of rebuilding teams in their recent stretch and you guys have gone apeshit over it. He put up 27/11/3 on 65.7%FG in B2B games against Cleveland & Chicago. Wizards blew the Cavs out in the 1st one and Kuzma hit a go-ahead shot in the 2nd one where DeRozan had his epic game-winner. He also had 36/14/6 against a solid Hornets team the next game.
Lol i don't. Tbh i was quite disappointed they haven't won any games yet against the warriors this season.
SATAN
01-12-2022, 06:42 AM
Looking forward to see him lead Wizards into the finals.
TheCorporation
01-12-2022, 07:28 AM
Kuzma 21-22 stats: League Ranks
PPG: 58th
FG%: 65th
3P%: 125th
Players with similar rankings: Kevin Porter Jr, Reggie Bullock, & N. Alexander-Walker
What a nice tier to be in :lol
The ImKobe Superstar tier :lol No wonder you think so highly of Kobe
ImKobe
01-12-2022, 07:33 AM
Kuzma 21-22 stats: League Ranks
PPG: 58th
FG%: 65th
3P%: 125th
Players with similar rankings: Kevin Porter Jr, Reggie Bullock, & N. Alexander-Walker
What a nice tier to be in :lol
The ImKobe Superstar tier :lol No wonder you think so highly of Kobe
When did I call him a superstar? I said he's playing like a star right now. He started out the year as a low-usage player but took over the offense because Beal & Dinwiddie couldn't get it done.
He's averaging 24/11/3 on 51.7%FG over his last 10 games, that's All-Star production right there. His clutch metrics are arguably the best out of everyone this season as well and he's won the Wizards a bunch of close games, which is why they're above .500 despite Beal's struggles. They were 15 - 26 in their first 41 games last year.
Johnny32
01-12-2022, 07:43 AM
dude has a negative bpm. beal, harrell, gafford all have positive bpms.
TheCorporation
01-12-2022, 07:46 AM
When did I call him a superstar? I said he's playing like a star right now. He started out the year as a low-usage player but took over the offense because Beal & Dinwiddie couldn't get it done.
He's averaging 24/11/3 on 51.7%FG over his last 10 games, that's All-Star production right there. His clutch metrics are arguably the best out of everyone this season as well and he's won the Wizards a bunch of close games, which is why they're above .500 despite Beal's struggles. They were 15 - 26 in their first 41 games last year.
Did LeTutor teach him how to excel?
Johnny32
01-12-2022, 07:52 AM
on/off stats.
kuzma on -3.1, kuzma off +0.9
Damn, Lebron makes everyone better. Should we call him LeProfessor?
Kuzma was just a scrub back in the days and Lebron turned him into a real basketball player.
HylianNightmare
01-12-2022, 09:54 AM
The wizards should be better if he actually is a star
ralph_i_el
01-12-2022, 10:12 AM
He's played hard as hell on both ends. He takes gutsy shots when we need them. Intangibles off the charts. He has real flaws, but I'll take it over the parade of forgettable wings the Wiz have trotted out in recent years. He's been insanely clutch this year, especially from 3. Seems like a conditioning thing. He still has legs at the end of the game when others are dead. Lots of 3's he'd pass up or shoot contested in the first 3 quarters are a little easier to get off vs. a tired defender at the end of the game.
tontoz
01-12-2022, 10:14 AM
Kuzma has been a quite a roll lately. He is doing a good job using his length to finish inside. His rebounding has been really strong. His effort level has been consistently high. Our last two wins were mostly because of him.
He was pretty bad last month though. His averages (pts,rbs) so far in Jan are literally double what they were in Dec.
TheCorporation
01-12-2022, 10:45 AM
on/off stats.
kuzma on -3.1, kuzma off +0.9
:lol Kobe level star
ralph_i_el
01-12-2022, 11:00 AM
Kuzma has been a quite a roll lately. He is doing a good job using his length to finish inside. His rebounding has been really strong. His effort level has been consistently high. Our last two wins were mostly because of him.
He was pretty bad last month though. His averages (pts,rbs) so far in Jan are literally double what they were in Dec.
I've been surprised by this, especially with the level of difficulty some of these shots he is creating off the dribble.
SATAN
01-12-2022, 09:41 PM
19 points + 10 rebounds so far in this game.
Flourishing against lottery and rebuilding teams. Better than nothing at all i suppose.
Full Court
01-12-2022, 09:45 PM
He just had a 20+ point and 20 rebound game a few days ago. I don't especially like Kuzma, but you can't deny that he's had some very impressive games here and there.
Also:
https://fadeawayworld.net/.image/t_share/MTg1NDczMzI0NjY1NTQ2MjU1/kyle-kuzma-outfit.jpg
SATAN
01-12-2022, 09:57 PM
:biggums:
:roll:
Damn, kuzma was shy of an assist from his very first triple double.
Manny98
01-12-2022, 10:24 PM
Kuzma showing his complete arsenal tonight, doing it all
What a stud
ImKobe
01-13-2022, 02:37 AM
19/10/9 63.6%FG & the W :pimp:
aj1987
01-13-2022, 06:16 AM
Dude has been really good, but he has always had these hot streaks. Especially in '19. He's still not even close to being a "star", until he does it for a season.
ImKobe
01-13-2022, 06:55 AM
Dude has been really good, but he has always had these hot streaks. Especially in '19. He's still not even close to being a "star", until he does it for a season.
In 2019 yeah, when the Lakers had injuries and he was a 1st/2nd option by default in a lot of those games. He averaged 21.5 ppg when Lebron was out with his injury, he wasn't getting to the basket like this though, he's playing at a much higher level right now and in wins.
It's no surprise that his numbers are up when he has the opportunity to do so. Would it have benefited the Lakers if he had a bigger role next to AD & Bron? Probably not, but it did stunt his growth and now he can resume evolving as a player in a situation where his team doesn't have the pressure to contend for a championship. I'm not saying he's a top 20-caliber player just yet but he's definitely playing on an All-Star level these past 11 games. 24/11/3 on 52.4%FG, in a stretch where his 3 hasn't really been falling tells me that ~20 ppg is sustainable for him, and it's not like he's doing this on a lottery team, the Wizards are 2 games over .500 despite Beal's struggles. He's at 80%FG inside 3 ft this season. Wizards need to utilize that more and get him more touches inside 10 ft like they have during this stretch, he's already a #2 option per his shot attempts but he needs even more volume for their offense to be more consistent. He's not a typical 3&D player and he isn't comfortable in that role, which is why he didn't work out that well next to Bron & AD from a scoring standpoint.
TheCorporation
01-13-2022, 07:45 AM
19/10/9 63.6%FG & the W :pimp:
Wow, still worse than rookie Bron. Cute.
3ba11
01-13-2022, 12:14 PM
Typical Lebron, always wanting to take the hardest road.
Legit funny for how opposite of the truth your wish is
IF ONLY that was why Lebron got rid of his 2 Pippen's (Kuzma, Ingram)
ralph_i_el
01-13-2022, 12:32 PM
Having a big wing who can shoot and defend is extremely valuable, even if they'll never be a "star" player.
Having a big wing who can shoot and defend is extremely valuable, even if they'll never be a "star" player.
He can’t really shoot that well, this hot streak notwithstanding.
tontoz
01-13-2022, 03:56 PM
He can’t really shoot that well, this hot streak notwithstanding.
He is good at finishing inside. He is shooting 80% from 0-3 feet and 48% from 3-10 feet both of which are very good.
It is 16+ feet where his effectiveness falls off.
His ups and downs are a bit extreme. In 7 games this month he is averaging 26/12 with a 63% TS. Last month he averaged 13/6 with a 50% TS.
:wtf:
He is good at finishing inside. He is shooting 80% from 0-3 feet and 48% from 3-10 feet both of which are very good.
It is 16+ feet where his effectiveness falls off.
His ups and downs are a bit extreme. In 7 games this month he is averaging 26/12 with a 63% TS. Last month he averaged 13/6 with a 50% TS.
:wtf:
He’s a role player. Role players are streaky. I feel like you guys are underutilizing Harrell lately btw
3ba11
01-13-2022, 04:30 PM
He’s a role player. Role players are streaky. I feel like you guys are underutilizing Harrell lately btw
He's impacting winning
tontoz
01-13-2022, 05:24 PM
He’s a role player. Role players are streaky. I feel like you guys are underutilizing Harrell lately btw
Harrell was out 7 games due to Covid protocols.
His time might go down a bit going forward now that Bryant is back.
kabacho
01-13-2022, 05:50 PM
Harrell was out 7 games due to Covid protocols.
His time might go down a bit going forward now that Bryant is back.
you need to fix that defense though
ShawkFactory
01-13-2022, 10:30 PM
In 2019 yeah, when the Lakers had injuries and he was a 1st/2nd option by default in a lot of those games. He averaged 21.5 ppg when Lebron was out with his injury, he wasn't getting to the basket like this though, he's playing at a much higher level right now and in wins.
It's no surprise that his numbers are up when he has the opportunity to do so. Would it have benefited the Lakers if he had a bigger role next to AD & Bron? Probably not, but it did stunt his growth and now he can resume evolving as a player in a situation where his team doesn't have the pressure to contend for a championship. I'm not saying he's a top 20-caliber player just yet but he's definitely playing on an All-Star level these past 11 games. 24/11/3 on 52.4%FG, in a stretch where his 3 hasn't really been falling tells me that ~20 ppg is sustainable for him, and it's not like he's doing this on a lottery team, the Wizards are 2 games over .500 despite Beal's struggles. He's at 80%FG inside 3 ft this season. Wizards need to utilize that more and get him more touches inside 10 ft like they have during this stretch, he's already a #2 option per his shot attempts but he needs even more volume for their offense to be more consistent. He's not a typical 3&D player and he isn't comfortable in that role, which is why he didn't work out that well next to Bron & AD from a scoring standpoint.
You're wrong on a few points here. Or at least a little off base.
Yes, he averaged 21.5 when Bron was out in 2019 in those initial 13 games. He also averaged 22.4 in the 13 games before Lebron got injured and 21.6 in 10 games after he returned. So...kind of a wash.
The issue with him is that he needs to be feed to be consistent. He has never been a 3 and D guy, but he's also never been an ISO guy who can get his buckets when things break down. Once AD was on the team Kuzma was no longer the guy who needed to be fed. It's not an issue of Bron ball it's an issue with Kuzma's game when playing with someone who is one of the best play finishers in the world...while being on a team contending for a championship, as you said.
I agree with you for the most part though. I like what he's doing and his effort is more than what most give. And he's always been a really good rebounder. It sucks that he's been politized on here but AD's presence is what actually forced him to take a step back. Not Lebron's.
SATAN
01-13-2022, 10:35 PM
forced him to take a step back
They were literally encouraging him to be the third guy. They wanted him to step up. He just didn't know how to do it with them. Always said he wasn't sure what his role was, like the Westbrook situation.
ShawkFactory
01-13-2022, 10:38 PM
They were literally encouraging him to be the third guy. They wanted him to step up. He just didn't know how to do it with them. Always said he wasn't sure what his role was, like the Westbrook situation.
The point was that it wasn't an issue before AD joined. They weren't as good but at least Kuzma could be his best self.
I don't know that him being his best self (statistically speaking) will be on a team that will win a championship. Which is the case for most people so it's not a knock.
ralph_i_el
01-14-2022, 11:59 AM
The point was that it wasn't an issue before AD joined. They weren't as good but at least Kuzma could be his best self.
I don't know that him being his best self (statistically speaking) will be on a team that will win a championship. Which is the case for most people so it's not a knock.
On a contender he's best suited as a bench scorer because of his ability to create shots for himself, and as a big body that can be thrown at large wings, which tend to be some of the most dangerous players in today's league. You have to have a good amount of size on the wings to compete in the playoffs.
Jasper
01-14-2022, 09:25 PM
I liked Kuzma in LA and I am super happy for him now in Washington.
He has game , but doesn't take his game to 'I own the court' mentality.
He is a solid 3rd option and possibly a 2nd option some day.
16 points on 18 shots in a loss to the Trail Blazers :lol
Supastah
ImKobe
01-16-2022, 07:16 AM
16 points on 18 shots in a loss to the Trail Blazers :lol
Supastah
16/12/2 2 blocks on an off night? Not bad.
23/11/3 on 51.2%FG his last 12 games. Not bad for a role player, eh?
ImKobe
01-18-2022, 11:20 AM
https://youtu.be/3Nf6l9Pux0U
poster on the best big man in the league :pimp:
15/16/4 3 blocks in a blowout win against a Sixers team that just won 9 out of their last 10, outrebounded Embiid 2 to 1.
Not bad for a role player.
aj1987
01-20-2022, 09:14 PM
In 2019 yeah, when the Lakers had injuries and he was a 1st/2nd option by default in a lot of those games. He averaged 21.5 ppg when Lebron was out with his injury, he wasn't getting to the basket like this though, he's playing at a much higher level right now and in wins.
It's no surprise that his numbers are up when he has the opportunity to do so. Would it have benefited the Lakers if he had a bigger role next to AD & Bron? Probably not, but it did stunt his growth and now he can resume evolving as a player in a situation where his team doesn't have the pressure to contend for a championship. I'm not saying he's a top 20-caliber player just yet but he's definitely playing on an All-Star level these past 11 games. 24/11/3 on 52.4%FG, in a stretch where his 3 hasn't really been falling tells me that ~20 ppg is sustainable for him, and it's not like he's doing this on a lottery team, the Wizards are 2 games over .500 despite Beal's struggles. He's at 80%FG inside 3 ft this season. Wizards need to utilize that more and get him more touches inside 10 ft like they have during this stretch, he's already a #2 option per his shot attempts but he needs even more volume for their offense to be more consistent. He's not a typical 3&D player and he isn't comfortable in that role, which is why he didn't work out that well next to Bron & AD from a scoring standpoint.
All that garbage of cherry picked arguments just to say that Kuzma isn't a star. You're a moron.
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