If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

[TheCorporation]

13 players have 6 or more rings...

Only 1 has over 6,000 playoff points

Only 1 has 12 playoff game winners

Only 1 has 6x 30.0 PER through the Finals

Only 1 has led all players in all stats for an entire playoff series

[ThRRR3tardSatan]

Lmfao


Seething that LeBron has been mostly healthy for two decades and stacked the deck 3 times and still couldn't get to 6 titles.

Let's just team up with other Eastern conference players in Wade, Bosh, Ray, Kyrie etc. Giannis is now the best player and Durant has come east, let's jump over to the West and have my agent demand fellow client and most dominant player in the West demand a trade to play with me... wouldn't want to have to play real competition prior to the finals.

Lebum lies, cheats, colludes and still can't match MJ in championships. Classic.



Just inject it!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Xc6MMqNnBa0/UvbfUxPKn4I/AAAAAAAACNI/TXM9oZeA0hM/s1600/griffeyjr-89ud-simpsons.jpg

[highwhey]

Lmfao


Seething that LeBron has been mostly healthy for two decades and stacked the deck 3 times and still couldn't get to 6 titles.

Let's just team up with other Eastern conference players in Wade, Bosh, Ray, Kyrie etc. Giannis is now the best player and Durant has come east, let's jump over to the West and have my agent demand fellow client and most dominant player in the West demand a trade to play with me... wouldn't want to have to play real competition prior to the finals.

Lebum lies, cheats, colludes and still can't match MJ in championships. Classic.



Just inject it!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Xc6MMqNnBa0/UvbfUxPKn4I/AAAAAAAACNI/TXM9oZeA0hM/s1600/griffeyjr-89ud-simpsons.jpg

kenny, seek immediate help from a mental health professional. first visit is on my dime.

[TheCorporation]

Lmfao


Seething that LeBron has been mostly healthy for two decades and stacked the deck 3 times and still couldn't get to 6 titles.

Let's just team up with other Eastern conference players in Wade, Bosh, Ray, Kyrie etc. Giannis is now the best player and Durant has come east, let's jump over to the West and have my agent demand fellow client and most dominant player in the West demand a trade to play with me... wouldn't want to have to play real competition prior to the finals.

Lebum lies, cheats, colludes and still can't match MJ in championships. Classic.



Just inject it!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Xc6MMqNnBa0/UvbfUxPKn4I/AAAAAAAACNI/TXM9oZeA0hM/s1600/griffeyjr-89ud-simpsons.jpg


Kenny, seek immediate help from a mental health professional. second visit is on my dime.

[Full Court]

Russell is easily a top 3 player of all time. The only ones who don't care about 11 "cracker jack" rings are the intellectually inadequate Bronies.

It's cool though. Keep on celebrating your chronic loser.

[expansionera]

No one rates Jordan rings that’s under 45

[TheCorporation]

Russell is easily a top 3 player of all time. The only ones who don't care about 11 "cracker jack" rings are the intellectually inadequate Bronies.

It's cool though. Keep on celebrating your chronic loser.

Oh yeah?

3ball has Russell outside his top 5.
Kenny has Russell outside his top 20.

Come getcha mans, chump :lol

[TheCorporation]

No one rates Jordan rings that’s under 45

Pretty much. If 11 cubic zirconia rings aint enough, neither is 6.

[Manny98]

In the modern era MJ has won more than anyone else as the best player

He set the standard and LeBron has yet to reach it, he's still got time

5 rings as the best player plus his way superior longevity and feats of beating better teams in the finals would put him over MJ for me

[TheCorporation]

In the modern era MJ has won more than anyone else as the best player

He set the standard and LeBron has yet to reach it, he's still got time

5 rings as the best player plus his way superior longevity and feats of beating better teams in the finals would put him over MJ for me

That's fair but is 91-93 the modern era? What about the WNBA 3-pt line years? (95 & 96 I believe)?

At any rate, 4 elite rings beats 6 cracker jacks in my opinion. Then you add in the stats and it's a landslide victory for LeJames.

[expansionera]

Pretty much. If 11 cubic zirconia rings aint enough, neither is 6.

Yep even my dad is in his 60s and brutally broke down why Jordan was a fraud when I was in my teens and thought highly of the guy. It’s just not that impressive to win six titles (one for each expansion team added in a eight year period) with a historically stacked team in a caveman era

Especially when you have zero .500 seasons prior to teaming up with Hall of Famers, with modern analytics and social media Jordan is appropriately dismissed as perhaps a top 15 player ����*♂️

[HunterSThompson]

13 players have 6 or more rings...

Only 1 has over 6,000 playoff points

Only 1 has 12 playoff game winners

Only 1 has 6x 30.0 PER through the Finals

Only 1 has led all players in all stats for an entire playoff series

agreed. they should take down world title banners and hang up people's playoff point totals instead


that or finals PER banners.

[Spurs m8]

If we didn't care about 38,397...why would we care about 38,398?

[John8204]

Russell is easily a top 3 player of all time. The only ones who don't care about 11 "cracker jack" rings are the intellectually inadequate Bronies.

It's cool though. Keep on celebrating your chronic loser.

He might not have even been the best player on some of those teams (Cousy, Havlicek)

[AirBonner]

Bill Russell gets way too much disrespect imo. Bill faced Wilt and Jerry West (both best scorers of the era) who tf did mike face?

[TheMan]

Yep even my dad is in his 60s and brutally broke down why Jordan was a fraud when I was in my teens and thought highly of the guy. It’s just not that impressive to win six titles (one for each expansion team added in a eight year period) with a historically stacked team in a caveman era

Especially when you have zero .500 seasons prior to teaming up with Hall of Famers, with modern analytics and social media Jordan is appropriately dismissed as perhaps a top 15 player ����*♂️

:roll:

[Bronbron23]

13 players have 6 or more rings...

Only 1 has over 6,000 playoff points

Only 1 has 12 playoff game winners

Only 1 has 6x 30.0 PER through the Finals

Only 1 has led all players in all stats for an entire playoff series

Only 1 played worse than a jason terry level player in a finals

Only one is flopper

Only one formed multiple super teams

Only one had a losing record in the finals.

Only one played in the easiest conference ever in the easiest scoring era ever.

[TheCorporation]

agreed. they should take down world title banners and hang up people's playoff point totals instead


that or finals PER banners.

This boi using a team accomplishment to compare individuals :lol

Check • Mate

:pimp:

[TheCorporation]

If we didn't care about 38,397...why would we care about 38,398?

LMAO! Kareem is universally 1, 2, or 3. So...We do care.

Rookie m8

Happy to teach you every day you're here my son.


Bill Russell gets way too much disrespect imo. Bill faced Wilt and Jerry West (both best scorers of the era) who tf did mike face?

100% my guy :cheers:

Russel faced: Wilt, West
Mikey faced: Starks, Drexler, Hornacek

[TheCorporation]

Only 1 played worse than a jason terry level player in a finals

Only one is flopper

Only one formed multiple super teams

Only one had a losing record in the finals.

Only one played in the easiest conference ever in the easiest scoring era ever.

If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

1 player has 6,000 playoff points.

[Spurs m8]

Only 1 played worse than a jason terry level player in a finals

Only one is flopper

Only one formed multiple super teams

Only one had a losing record in the finals.

Only one played in the easiest conference ever in the easiest scoring era ever.

Confirmed loser.

Be interesting to see the outcome if he didn't run and restack the deck 3 times.

But we will never know if he'd actually have any respectable rings

[Airupthere]

Only 1 played worse than a jason terry level player in a finals

Only one is flopper

Only one formed multiple super teams

Only one had a losing record in the finals.

Only one played in the easiest conference ever in the easiest scoring era ever.

:lebronamazed:

[Full Court]

Oh yeah?

3ball has Russell outside his top 5.
Kenny has Russell outside his top 20.

Come getcha mans, chump :lol

I recognize that rankings are purely subjective....but Russell outside of top 20 is pretty ridiculous.

And are 3ball and Kenny authoritative sources to you?

[BigKobeFan]

Only 1 played worse than a jason terry level player in a finals

Only one is flopper

Only one formed multiple super teams

Only one had a losing record in the finals.

Only one played in the easiest conference ever in the easiest scoring era ever.

Bran got swatted two times out of two with a little bit of hand checking. Imagine having to deal with it nightly. Dude will cry more than booker.

[3ba11]

Russell wasn't the 1st option for hardly any of his rings and therefore didn't face defensive attention - he was literally carried by Havlicek

[TheCorporation]

Russell wasn't the 1st option for hardly any of his rings and therefore didn't face defensive attention - he was literally carried by Havlicek

If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

[Johnny32]

great topic. jordan played in a dino era that was more similar to the 60s than today's game. they desperately try to downplay russell's team success while propping up jordone's. it's pathetic and embarrassing.

[Gohan]

Op got too much semen in his mouth

[TheCorporation]

great topic. jordan played in a dino era that was more similar to the 60s than today's game. they desperately try to downplay russell's team success while propping up jordone's. it's pathetic and embarrassing.

Precisely :cheers:

MJ kiddos cant ignore Russell's 11 cracker jack rings and spotlight MJ's six. They've been caught.

1. LeBron
2. Kareem
3. Wilt
4. Duncan
5. Jordan/Russell
6. Russell/Jordan
7. Shaq

[Spurs m8]

If we didn't care about 38,397...why would we care about 38,398?

Anyone?

Guys?

[TheCorporation]

Anyone?

Guys?

LMAO! Kareem is universally 1, 2, or 3. So...We do care.

Rookie m8

Happy to teach you every day you're here my son.

[TheCorporation]

Op got too much semen in his mouth

https://i.postimg.cc/zBtQzbCf/Cracker-Jack-90s-Era.png

Where's the lie?

[Hey Yo]

Only 1 played worse than a jason terry level player in a finals

Only one is flopper

Only one formed multiple super teams

Only one had a losing record in the finals.

Only one played in the easiest conference ever in the easiest scoring era ever.

Multiple superteams?? Who on the Cavs or LA had postseason experience before he signed?

So the 80's West who barely used the 3pt line, but still saw scores in the 110's and 20's routinely, was a hard conference to score in?

You trippin', chico.

[Gohan]

Multiple superteams?? Who on the Cavs or LA had postseason experience?

So the 80's West who barely used the 3pt line, but still saw scores in the 110's and 20's routinely, was a hard conference to score in?

You trippin', chico.

Oh so you have to have postseason experience to be a superteam? Gotcha, continue to play dumb while yo b1tch lick my pre-***

[TheCorporation]

Oh so you have to have postseason experience to be a superteam? Gotcha, continue to play dumb while yo b1tch lick my pre-***

Wait, aren't you a self-admitted virgin that's saving himself for marriage?

[Gohan]

Wait, aren't you a self-admitted virgin that's saving himself for marriage?

Lmao theres righteous sins too much

[SATAN]

LeBron is better at basketball than Michael Jordan. Superior athlete, higher bball IQ etc. Would have broken many more records and had more meaningless regular season MVPS etc if it wasn't for coasting and preserving his body. Better teammate and person in general also. There will never be another player like him, whereas there was another MJ clone while he was in the league. Chips are overrated. The argument is meaningless in a team sport.

MJ was arguably better at fancy layups though.

The fact so many dumbasses so vehemently hate LeBron James just shows how insecure and immature they are.

[3ba11]

If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?


We don't care about "Horry" rings - that's what Russell has as the 85th scoring option on his title teams (required no defensive attention and carried by Havlicek)

I think Russell has 1 or 2 rings as the leading scorer for the playoffs and Finals - that just doesn't compare to the GOAT standard - and that's what we're talking about here - GOAT MJ

MJ has 6 rings as the clear-cut offensive leader on his team - no one is close - and he got more dpoy votes than pippen every year, while being the primary defender on most of the opponent's best players, so he was the leader on both ends.

[kawhileonard2]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher



Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED



Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.





Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats



Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry



Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html



"The weatherman says the weather is changing soon and predicts a thunderstorm," LeBron wrote alongside a photo of himself and Anthony Davis. "It's coming. Prepare and take proper caution measures to stay safe."





http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html



6 rings in 11 full seasons without super-teams > 4 in 19 with them
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500799-6-rings-in-11-full-seasons-without-super-teams-gt-4-in-19-with-them&p=14512408&viewfull=1#post14512408

Lebron quit on the Cavs and they burned his jersey and held his family hostage. He also only won 1 title for the franchise that drafted him which is pathetic in 11 years. Imagine someone getting credit when they lose with Shaq and only get to round 2 and they lose with peak Duncan getting bronze medal.



The best player Kawhi returning
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500786-The-best-player-Kawhi-returning/page2



Has Jordan ever advanced to the Finals while shooting 3-11?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500771-Has-Jordan-ever-advanced-to-the-Finals-while-shooting-3-11&p=14512449&viewfull=1#post14512449

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[TheCorporation]

We don't care about "Horry" rings - that's what Russell has as the 85th scoring option on his title teams (required no defensive attention and carried by Havlicek)

I think Russell has 1 or 2 rings as the leading scorer for the playoffs and Finals - that just doesn't compare to the GOAT standard - and that's what we're talking about here - GOAT MJ

MJ has 6 rings as the clear-cut offensive leader on his team - no one is close - and he got more dpoy votes than pippen every year, while being the primary defender on most of the opponent's best players, so he was the leader on both ends.

But just because you lead your team in PPG does not mean you'd win the FMVP. I'm really starting to question if you really do know anything about basketball considering the fact that NUMEROUS Finals MVP winners did not lead their team in Finals scoring:

Wilt Chamerblain (72)
Willis Reed (73)
Bill Walton (77)
Wes Unseld (78)
Dennis Johnson (79)
Magic Johnson (80, 82)
Larry Bird (86)
Chauncy Billups (04)
Kawhi Leonard (14)
Andre Iguodala (15)

11 times...Learn the game before you speak.

[Airupthere]

If lebron’s game is so ugly now, how much uglier could it have been if he learned playing basketball in the 60s?

[bullettooth]

LeBron fans celebrate 6 finals losses, not wins.

[TheCorporation]

LeBron fans celebrate 6 finals losses, not wins.

If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

https://i.postimg.cc/zBtQzbCf/Cracker-Jack-90s-Era.png

[kawhileonard2]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher



Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED



Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.





Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600

How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry


Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360

Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.

LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


6 rings in 11 full seasons without super-teams > 4 in 19 with them
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500799-6-rings-in-11-full-seasons-without-super-teams-gt-4-in-19-with-them&p=14512408&viewfull=1#post14512408

Lebron quit on the Cavs and they burned his jersey and held his family hostage. He also only won 1 title for the franchise that drafted him which is pathetic in 11 years. Imagine someone getting credit when they lose with Shaq and only get to round 2 and they lose with peak Duncan getting bronze medal.

The best player Kawhi returning
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500786-The-best-player-Kawhi-returning/page2

Has Jordan ever advanced to the Finals while shooting 3-11?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500771-Has-Jordan-ever-advanced-to-the-Finals-while-shooting-3-11&p=14512449&viewfull=1#post14512449

[Spurs m8]

LeBron fans celebrate 6 finals losses, not wins.

Yep :roll:

Normal people - "MJ won 6, bro"

Bron stans - "Well Bron lost 6, bro...LEGOAT :bowdown: "

[Gimmedarock]

I hate that rings is all people go by. To me if Lebron doesn’t win another ring, his career still makes him GOAT. He been great in how many statistical categories? The other big thing is just watching players play. I watch Magic I see nothing. I watch Karl Malone I see nothing. I watch Jordan I see a great player. I see Bron I see a great player. I see KD I see a great player.

Rings or nice but man watch the players play. It should be easy to see who’s great.

[HylianNightmare]

I'll count em since it brings lebron even farther down

[TheCorporation]

Guys? If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

https://i.postimg.cc/zBtQzbCf/Cracker-Jack-90s-Era.png

[TheGoatest]

13 players have 6 or more rings...

Only 1 has over 6,000 playoff points

Only 1 has 12 playoff game winners

Only 1 has 6x 30.0 PER through the Finals

Only 1 has led all players in all stats for an entire playoff series

Because Jordan extremists try to customize the criteria for GOATness in order that fits their Fuhrer in the best possible way. Just like the crap criteria of "Finals winning percentage", which implies that it would be better to lose in the first round than in the finals, something was never ever mentioned prior to LeBron for someone like Magic. Can't help but laugh at the lack of consistency in their arguments. :oldlol:

[2much_knowledge]

That's fair but is 91-93 the modern era? What about the WNBA 3-pt line years? (95 & 96 I believe)?

At any rate, 4 elite rings beats 6 cracker jacks in my opinion. Then you add in the stats and it's a landslide victory for LeJames.

2 problems here. 1) your opinion is garbage and nobody takes it seriously, 2) "elite rings" with an asterisk on each one is cringe and laughable

[Thenameless]

In the modern era MJ has won more than anyone else as the best player

He set the standard and LeBron has yet to reach it, he's still got time

5 rings as the best player plus his way superior longevity and feats of beating better teams in the finals would put him over MJ for me

The problem is, a lot of the youngsters on this board don't think Jordan played in the modern era either. They lump him in with Russell. Even though I'm older, I see the point. This era of softer defense and emphasis on the 3 point shot is very different from the basketball of the past.

[John8204]

To me not all rings are equal, Lebron's 4 and Larry's 3 are more impressive to me than Kobe's 5 or Jordan's 6

[2much_knowledge]

To me not all rings are equal, Lebron's 4 and Larry's 3 are more impressive to me than Kobe's 5 or Jordan's 6

Super impresive! 2 short seasons and 2 clutch bailouts by teammates. Plus a player suspension

[highwhey]

Guys? If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

https://i.postimg.cc/zBtQzbCf/Cracker-Jack-90s-Era.png

:roll:

[3ba11]

5 rings as the best player plus his way superior longevity and feats of beating better teams in the finals would put him over MJ for me





Why should Lebron get credit for beating better teams when he had an extra all-star teammate compared to Jordan's teams - Lebron hand-picked the preseason favorite from 11-16' (super-teams), so you're just weaponizing him turning these favorites into underdogs - you're praising his losing and inability to hold on to the preseason favorite status that he hand-picked

[Spurs m8]

2 problems here. 1) your opinion is garbage and nobody takes it seriously, 2) "elite rings" with an asterisk on each one is cringe and laughable

Well said.

Elite rings is the funniest part.
Its literally just gaslighting everyone.

Which is basically the entire existence of that guy.

I've always said, lucky he doesn't have a GF...he'd mentally and emotionally abuse her

[TheCorporation]

To me not all rings are equal, Lebron's 4 and Larry's 3 are more impressive to me than Kobe's 5 or Jordan's 6

+1

Every knows this

[TheCorporation]

Anyone? If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6, right?

https://i.postimg.cc/zBtQzbCf/Cracker-Jack-90s-Era.png

[Spurs m8]

It's been a tough night for the little guy

It's alright, little gaslighter...no ones buying what you got.
Go ask your mom, she will comfort you and can tuck you in

[TheCorporation]

It's been a tough night for the little guy

It's alright, little gaslighter...no ones buying what you got.
Go ask your mom, she will comfort you and can tuck you in

Any comments about the weak cracker jack 90s, Kangaroo m8?

https://i.postimg.cc/Dz2vH2tB/Weak-Crack-Jack-90s-Era.png

[TheGoatest]

Any comments about the weak cracker jack 90s, Kangaroo m8?

https://i.postimg.cc/Dz2vH2tB/Weak-Crack-Jack-90s-Era.png

:roll:

[TheCorporation]

:roll:

:roll:

And now the 90s kids are realizing what they've done. By dismissing Russell's cracker jack rings they've drowned MJ only's gleaming accomplishment in the process.

CrackerJack Jordan :(

[Shooter]

Kenny, seek immediate help from a mental health professional. second visit is on my dime.

I hope he took this advice. He's been gone for a good two weeks now.

Now back to the OP: If we didn't care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

[Bronbron23]

13 players have 6 or more rings...

Only 1 has over 6,000 playoff points

Only 1 has 12 playoff game winners

Only 1 has 6x 30.0 PER through the Finals

Only 1 has led all players in all stats for an entire playoff series

That's where you're messed up buddy. Intelligent people care about Russell's 11 rings. Only idiots dismiss it. Not surprised you're one of those idiots:oldlol:

[Shooter]

That's where you're messed up buddy. Intelligent people care about Russell's 11 rings. Only idiots dismiss it. Not surprised you're one of those idiots:oldlol:

So Russell > Jordan

:lol Idiot

[Bronbron23]

So Russell > Jordan

:lol Idiot

I guess reading comp isn't your thing lol. I said all 3 factors are weighted. That said I have no problem with anyone saying Russell greater than MJ. This is because I'm not an emotional Stan unlike yourself :oldlol:

[Shooter]

I guess reading comp isn't your thing lol. I said all 3 factors are weighted. That said I have no problem with anyone saying Russell greater than MJ. This is because I'm not an emotional Stan unlike yourself :oldlol:

You literally made a screen name titled "BronBron23" and spend every second poorly attempting to tear LBJ down but you're "not an emotional stan"

Riiiight :lol

[Axe]

Wilt is cemented top 3 despite his two rings and a losing finals record.

[Shooter]

Jordan fans self soothing over having six rings when another guy has 11 would be like LeBron fans shouting about his 7,500 playoff points when another dude has 15,000 :roll:

Sad state of affairs for the Jordone kiddies.

[Bronbron23]

You literally made a screen name titled "BronBron23" and spend every second poorly attempting to tear LBJ down but you're "not an emotional stan"

Riiiight :lol

No I like f*cking with y'all idiots because it's so damn easy lol. Bron is top 5 all time imo and has an argument for goat. I've said this many times. Bron is t he e man. His Stans on the other hand are some fakkit ass casuls:roll:

[Shooter]

No I like f*cking with y'all idiots because it's so damn easy lol. Bron is top 5 all time imo and has an argument for goat. I've said this many times. Bron is t he e man. His Stans on the other hand are some fakkit ass casuls:roll:

You're not f*cking with anyone. What you are doing is serving up a nice side of ass and I'm blasting right through your anus at every chance I get. You're a *** dumpster at this point, repeatedly taking his fillings like a good boy. You're not f*cking with anyone, you're being f*cked :lol Now be a good boy and pull those pants down for me one more time.

[Bronbron23]

You're not f*cking with anyone. What you are doing is serving up a nice side of ass and I'm blasting right through your anus at every chance I get. You're a *** dumpster at this point, repeatedly taking his fillings like a good boy. You're not f*cking with anyone, you're being f*cked :lol Now be a good boy and pull those pants down for me one more time.

Yeah ok sure buddy. Just look at that paragraph of a m weltdown and tell me you're not triggered:oldlol:

[TheGoatest]

A finals opponent whose 2nd leading scorer averaged 10.7 ppg :oldlol:
No, that's not a typo. On .411 shooting too. :roll:

[Shooter]

Yeah ok sure buddy. Just look at that paragraph of a m weltdown and tell me you're not triggered:oldlol:

Pull those pants down bb boi

:lebronamazed:

[Shooter]

A finals opponent whose 2nd leading scorer averaged 10.7 ppg :oldlol:
No, that's not a typo. On .411 shooting too. :roll:

10.7 ppg as a #2 option in the Finals? That has to be the weakest #2 option in Finals history. Is that a record?

[Bronbron23]

10.7 ppg as a #2 option in the Finals? That has to be the weakest #2 option in Finals history. Is that a record?

Jason Terry scored 1 point more a game than horn if you compare horns 97 season with Terry's 10 season. Only difference is MJ and the bulls played defense and Bron and the heat got ass f*cked.

Holy shit I just noticed that Terry a role player scored more than Bron that series on better efficiency. This must be a typo? Has a role player ever outscored a goat candidate before? Is that a record?:roll:

[HylianNightmare]

11 is more than 6 which is more than 5 which is more than 4. Pretty simple concept

[Shooter]

Jason Terry scored 1 point more a game than horn if you compare horns 97 season with Terry's 10 season. Only difference is MJ and the bulls played defense and Bron and the heat got ass f*cked.

Holy shit I just noticed that Terry a role player scored more than Bron that series on better efficiency. This must be a typo? Has a role player ever outscored a goat candidate before? Is that a record?:roll:

Terry Cummings
Retard :lol

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1985-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-bucks.html

[Bronbron23]

Terry Cummings
Retard :lol

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1985-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-bucks.html

MJ was an atg as a rook? I mean I always gave Bron a pass for 07 finals but since u wanna take it there did u know Parker a second option outplayed Bron in that finals? Damn how often has this shit happened:oldlol:

[TheGoatest]

Jason Terry scored 1 point more a game than horn if you compare horns 97 season with Terry's 10 season. Only difference is MJ and the bulls played defense and Bron and the heat got ass f*cked.


Jeff Hornacek averaged 9.0 points on .321 shooting against the Lakers in the conference finals in the 1998 playoffs, so he actually IMPROVED individually with his 10.7 on .411 in the finals. Improved somewhat substantially, as hard as that is to believe. :oldlol:
Jason Terry on the other hand averaged 19.8 on .587 against the defending champions Lakers in the 2011 playoffs.

Keep on losing, jordon extremist alts. :roll:

[Shooter]

Jeff Hornacek averaged 9.0 points on .321 shooting against the Lakers in the conference finals in the 1998 playoffs, so he actually IMPROVED individually with his 10.7 on .411 in the finals. Improved somewhat substantially, as hard as that is to believe. :oldlol:
Jason Terry on the other hand averaged 19.8 on .587 against the defending champions Lakers in the 2011 playoffs.

Keep on losing, jordon extremist alts. :roll:

:roll: It's over

[Bronbron23]

:roll: It's over

Yeah but LeBron got out played by a scawny 6th man:oldlol:

[3ba11]

Equal-scoring partners attract equal defensive attention

So I knock Lebron's Finals wins because he always had a near-equal scoring partner and never defeated maximum defensive attention (never carried scoring load in Finals).

Russell is far worse because he never faced ANY defensive attention, while Jordan faced maximum defensive attention for 6 rings (carried scoring load).

[Spurs m8]

Another day, another shooter meltdown

Yikes

[Full Court]

Another day, another shooter meltdown

Yikes

He and his fellow Bronies are going to be doing this the entire off season. They may even keep on after he retires. :roll:

[Shooter]

If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

https://i.postimg.cc/zBtQzbCf/Cracker-Jack-90s-Era.png

I NEED ANSWERS

[3ba11]

6 rings as the best player is the most in 3-pointer basketball history

And Jordan also defeated maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load), while Russell faced no defensive attention and was carried (not a primary scoring option)

[HylianNightmare]

11>6>5>4

[3ba11]

11>6>5>4


Russell has some "Horry" rings, while Jordan won the most as the best player and 1st option

And his degree of domination was unmatched, aka defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load)

[LeCola]

Only One is Zorana Markus' husband.

Only One is Lazarus Milicic''s father.

So, Darko Milicic is GOAT.

:bowdown:

[Spurs m8]

He and his fellow Bronies are going to be doing this the entire off season. They may even keep on after he retires. :roll:

Deadset, they'll still be starting the same threads in 20 years and they'll still be virgins

[Shooter]

Anyone? If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

https://i.postimg.cc/zBtQzbCf/Cracker-Jack-90s-Era.png

I NEED ANSWERS

[2much_knowledge]

Anyone? If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

https://i.postimg.cc/zBtQzbCf/Cracker-Jack-90s-Era.png

I NEED ANSWERS

Speak for yourself and your other 7 alts

If we didnt care about westbrook stats, why would we care for less assist and less rebounds?

[HylianNightmare]

Russell has some "Horry" rings, while Jordan won the most as the best player and 1st option

And his degree of domination was unmatched, aka defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load)


I don't care. I'll take either over lebron. It's actually refreshing to hear people rank Russell higher than both instead of beating the lebum debate deader and deader

[Spurs m8]

Speak for yourself and your other 7 alts

If we didnt care about westbrook stats, why would we care for less assist and less rebounds?

No surprise that the league is thriving with LeClown in Cancun.

They'd better get used to it

[1987_Lakers]

No surprise that the league is thriving with LeClown in Cancun.

They'd better get used to it

The highest rated game in the last 20 years was game 7 of the 2016 Finals.

Hilarious that a Spurs fan is talking about ratings, the ratings were terrible when prime Duncan was winning chips.

Get a clue, moron.

[8Ball]

The highest rated game in the last 20 years was game 7 of the 2016 Finals.

Hilarious that a Spurs fan is talking about ratings, the ratings were terrible when prime Duncan was winning chips.

Get a clue, moron.

His kid has a crack head father :oldlol:

[8Ball]

13 players have 6 or more rings...

Only 1 has over 6,000 playoff points

Only 1 has 12 playoff game winners

Only 1 has 6x 30.0 PER through the Finals

Only 1 has led all players in all stats for an entire playoff series

Rings are team awards.

There are 100 possessions that each team has and Jordan only attempts 20/100 possessions, so championships are team awards.


Jordan fans use the rings argument because they can't argue that Jordan was better at playing basketball.

They know, everyone knows, LeBron is better at the game of basketball than Jordan was. Can do more things on the court and has a higher basketball IQ.

[Shooter]

His kid has a crack head father :oldlol:

:roll::roll:

[La Frescobaldi]

No one rates Jordan rings that’s under 45

that avi is pure Tomatin

[Bronbron23]

Anyone? If we didnt care about 11 cracker jack rings why do we care about 6?

https://i.postimg.cc/zBtQzbCf/Cracker-Jack-90s-Era.png

I NEED ANSWERS
This dummy still ranting about this. You already have you're answer. Intelligent people care about Russell's 11 rings. End thread

[Shooter]

13 players have 6 or more rings...

Only 1 has over 6,000 playoff points

Only 1 has 12 playoff game winners

Only 1 has 6x 30.0 PER through the Finals

Only 1 has led all players in all stats for an entire playoff series

Guys?

[Full Court]

He and his fellow Bronies are going to be doing this the entire off season. They may even keep on after he retires. :roll:

Man, This guy^ sure called it. :lol

Spooter/Constipation and his ilk are too predictable.