Allen Iverson 55pts FULL Highlights vs Hornets - Playoff Career HIGH! (2003)

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDrR6UufbJQ

Allen Iverson only had 3 3 pointers made when he scored 55 points. He was 21/32 from the field.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200304200PHI.html

[Lebron23]

Wish the Sixers build a good team around Iverson. He and Garnett could have been a great duo

[FilmyCogTurner]

What was the Sixers main problem back then? Simply to competitive for their own good but not good enough to be a contender?

It's pretty bad when you're in the finals and Aaron McKie is your second best player.

[ShawkFactory]

What was the Sixers main problem back then? Simply to competitive for their own good but not good enough to be a contender?

It's pretty bad when you're in the finals and Aaron McKie is your second best player.

By main problem do you mean why were they so good but not good enough? They had no one but Iverson who could even remotely create their own shot with any consistency, but their defense was good enough to where they could play at a slow enough pace to keep them in games and let Iverson do his thing.

[Gohan]

Greatest game of all time

Op is the biggest fa55ot of all time

[pandiani17]

My man AI!!!:bowdown: I remember thinking the Sixers might make the finals again that year (they didn't have a very good roster but they worked together quite well), if only Billups and Prince didn't step up big in the ECF... I fancied the chances against the Nets in the Eastern Conference Finals.

[Axe]

What was the Sixers main problem back then? Simply to competitive for their own good but not good enough to be a contender?

It's pretty bad when you're in the finals and Aaron McKie is your second best player.
So 2001 is a stain for all the people involved in winning the championship that year? Is that it?

[pandiani17]

What was the Sixers main problem back then? Simply to competitive for their own good but not good enough to be a contender?

It's pretty bad when you're in the finals and Aaron McKie is your second best player.

They were a team tailor-made to maximize Iverson's strengths, very strong defensively but didn't have enough talent offensevely in the roster. Also, it is not so easy to be a contender lol All in all, it was a very competitive team, especially in the play-offs.

[FilmyCogTurner]

So 2001 is a stain for all the people involved in winning the championship that year? Is that it?

I wasn't alluding to that but when you think about it there was definitely some soft finals happening around that time.

[Axe]

They were a team tailor-made to maximize Iverson's strengths, very strong defensively but didn't have enough talent offensevely in the roster. Also, it is not so easy to be a contender lol All in all, it was a very competitive team, especially in the play-offs.
Larry brown fielded them.

[Axe]

I wasn't alluding to that but when you think about it there was definitely some soft finals happening around that time.
Not surprising. The eastern conference was at its weakest during the early to mid 2000s if i'm not mistaken.

[FilmyCogTurner]

The Nets back to back years killed me. I have zero memory of when they played the Spurs in the 2003 finals.

[Axe]

The Nets back to back years killed me. I have zero memory of when they played the Spurs in the 2003 finals.
Lol it was a finals series where they never scored at least 90 against their rivals throughout that title run. :lol

[FilmyCogTurner]

Lol it was a finals series where they never scored at least 90 against their rivals throughout that title run. :lol

The dark ages of the NBA. To be honest I don't think I would mind low scoring games if they were played today. Better defense creates better passing which is my favorite component to the game.

[Axe]

The dark ages of the NBA. To be honest I don't think I would mind low scoring games if they were played today. Better defense creates better passing which is my favorite component to the game.
Oh you think it's the defense only? I think pacing has a lot to do with that as well. And that there are more options or ways to score than ever nowadays.

[FilmyCogTurner]

Oh you think it's the defense only? I think pacing has a lot to do with that as well. And that there are more options or ways to score than ever nowadays.

The three point shooting and space that comes with it helps the passing lanes a ton. With the defense I think players have too much freedom of movement to the point that they don't need to rely on their teammates as much as they used to. If teams where allowed to stifle offensive players more frequently I think you would see more instances where players that are controlling the ball are forced to make the pass with a lot more frequency.

Teams like present day Warriors or early 2000 Kings are what I love most about the game. Teams that can move the ball around with gotcha type moments. Luka and Jokic doing a great job of creating that environment themselves but I see too many players do whatever they like and it seems bad for the game.

[pandiani17]

The Nets back to back years killed me. I have zero memory of when they played the Spurs in the 2003 finals.

They had Jason Kidd as their main star and then a bunch of role players that the average fan that started following the NBA in the 2010s will never have heard of (Kerry Kittles, Kenyon Martin, Richard Jefferson, Todd McCulloch, Lucious Harris, Aaron Williams, Jason Collins, Anthony Johnson). Out of this lot I think youngsters will only recognize Jefferson, and it will be because of his job in the broadcasting field. Anyway, they had some really good highlights, Kidd used to throw some nice lobs to Martin and Jefferson.

[FilmyCogTurner]

They had Jason Kidd as their main star and then a bunch of role players that the average fan that started following the NBA in the 2010s will never have heard of (Kerry Kittles, Kenyon Martin, Richard Jefferson, Todd McCulloch, Lucious Harris, Aaron Williams, Jason Collins, Anthony Johnson). Out of this lot I think youngsters will only recognize Jefferson, and it will be because of his job in the broadcasting field. Anyway, they had some really good highlights, Kidd used to throw some nice lobs to Martin and Jefferson.

Kittles was nice. Almost like a Harrison Barnes type of player from the SG position. I have followed ball since 94-95 but I guess around this time with the match up being a snore fest even for us I tuned out. Also didn't help living in a small town without cable and as we all know streaming back then wasn't was what it is today.

McCulloch on Shaq the year prior was a live funeral.

[Axe]

The three point shooting and space that comes with it helps the passing lanes a ton. With the defense I think players have too much freedom of movement to the point that they don't need to rely on their teammates as much as they used to. If teams where allowed to stifle offensive players more frequently I think you would see more instances where players that are controlling the ball are forced to make the pass with a lot more frequency.
Yea, those low-scoring games have become a thing of the past already. Everyone seems hellbent on making a lot of shots now instead of focusing on limiting them somehow, even big guys who take many of them beyond the arc have become so common than ever. Thus, making those at center position not play their roles truly anymore. Although there are still some of those who would play traditionally. Guys like rudy gobert and even draymond green come to mind.


Teams like present day Warriors or early 2000 Kings are what I love most about the game. Teams that can move the ball around with gotcha type moments. Luka and Jokic doing a great job of creating that environment themselves but I see too many players do whatever they like and it seems bad for the game.
Personally i find the modern ball movement to be a culprit of the three-point festival under moving screens system. The warriors have been capitalizing on that since the start of their dynasty and while it has become successful in producing high-scoring games plus more potential in creating thrilling upsets/comebacks, other teams tried to follow suit and made the game look closer to 'one-dimensional' today whenever they become too reliant on it imho. Kinda missing those days when the league used to be more balanced or natural but changes happen over time. So it is what it is.

[Round Mound]

Great player. Had a lot of heart. Something missing today's nba.

[FilmyCogTurner]

Yea, those low-scoring games have become a thing of the past already. Everyone seems hellbent on making a lot of shots now instead of focusing on limiting them somehow, even big guys who take many of them beyond the arc have become so common than ever. Thus, making those at center position not play their roles truly anymore. Although there are still some of those who would play traditionally. Guys like rudy gobert and even draymond green come to mind.

It's weird eh? Teams force certain players to shoot X amount of 3-pointers per game. That to me is unnatural as it gets.


Personally i find the modern ball movement to be a culprit of the three-point festival under moving screens system. The warriors have been capitalizing on that since the start of their dynasty and while it has become successful in producing high-scoring games plus more potential in creating thrilling upsets/comebacks, other teams tried to follow suit and made the game look closer to 'one-dimensional' today whenever they become too reliant on it imho. Kinda missing those days when the league used to be more balanced or natural but changes happen over time. So it is what it is.

Explain how you mean modern ball movement? Seems to me the lack of quality of centers and putting the ball in the hands of your best perimeter player forced the three point movement. Yeah you have the Warriors and the analytics behind it all but say you look at a team run by a Luka, Trae, Tatum type and how the offensive options available are really quite limited. Floor spread, high screen - drive and layup or drive and kick, pass, pass, corner three. I miss the days too where it felt more natural and sure as hell more dynamic than what it is today. Strange because usually over time these evolve with more entropy than ever before and yet basketballs evolution is in a way a de-evolution.

:biggums:

[Lebron23]

It's weird eh? Teams force certain players to shoot X amount of 3-pointers per game. That to me is unnatural as it gets.



Explain how you mean modern ball movement? Seems to me the lack of quality of centers and putting the ball in the hands of your best perimeter player forced the three point movement. Yeah you have the Warriors and the analytics behind it all but say you look at a team run by a Luka, Trae, Tatum type and how the offensive options available are really quite limited. Floor spread, high screen - drive and layup or drive and kick, pass, pass, corner three. I miss the days too where it felt more natural and sure as hell more dynamic than what it is today. Strange because usually over time these evolve with more entropy than ever before and yet basketballs evolution is in a way a de-evolution.

:biggums:

Because 3's are more valuable than 2's. If the 1998 and 2000 Indiana Pacers spammed some 3 pointers they would have beaten the 1998 Bulls, and 2000 Pacers.

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhn0Z56Z_qg Still one of the greatest playoffs performances of all time.