Kawhi vs Kobe

[GrayGoat]

Ok let’s settle this once and for all. Imo Kawhi has the major advantage in the playoffs because he’s better defensively and offensively. Kawhi makes the right decisions. But for huge scoring bursts Kobe holds the edge

[HunterSThompson]

Kawhi is better than Kobe imo

80 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 1

60 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 6

50 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 26

40 point games:

Kawhi - 5
Kobe - 135



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[GrayGoat]

80 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 1

60 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 6

50 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 26

40 point games:

Kawhi - 5
Kobe - 135



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How many of those in the playoffs? Oh!!!!!

[SouBeachTalents]

How many of those in the playoffs? Oh!!!!!
Kawhi has 2 career playoff games past the 1st round including zero in the conference finals or Finals.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

80 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 1

60 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 6

50 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 26

40 point games:

Kawhi - 5
Kobe - 135



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Harden has a bunch of those too. Means nothing. Kobe has never had 1 great finals performance.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Shooting - kawhi

Scoring efficiency - kawhi

Shot selection - kawhi

Defense - kawhi

Rebounding - kawhi

Quickness - Kobe although kawhi's wingspan makes him eat up space real quick

Strength - kawhi

Raping white girls - Kobe

Adapting to different coaches - kawhi. Every time Kobe didn't have phil he shat his underwear

Less of an ego - kawhi he wasn't jealous of other teammates

Passing - Kobe but kawhi had a higher regular season assist percentage then any Kobe phil Jackson year

Greater offensive anchor - kawhi's clippers have had a 120+ offensive rating with him on court. Kobe never reached that level

Overall winner = kawhi handsome

[GrayGoat]

DPOY- Kawhi:1 Kobe:0

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Kawhi has 2 career playoff games past the 1st round including zero in the conference finals or Finals.

Duncan has 0 finals games with 40 points as well. People still call him top 5 goat or whatever. Not everybody can stat pad even when their teams getting their ass handed to them like LeBron does

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Losers.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

DPOY- Kawhi:1 Kobe:0

Kawhi won 2 of those actually 2015 and 2016

2013 he was leader in minutes per game during finals

2014 finals mvp

2015 and 2016 back to back defensive player of the year and bpm playoff leader in 2016

2017 - leader in RAPTOR

2019 - goat

2020 - best western conference SRS and offensive rating until bubble and virus

2021 - playoff leader in offensive win shares

Every year he's doing GOAT shit

Guys like Durant never even led the playoffs in a single advanced stat

[SouBeachTalents]

Duncan has 0 finals games with 40 points as well. People still call him top 5 goat or whatever. Not everybody can stat pad even when their teams getting their ass handed to them like LeBron does
We for sure saw that was the case with Kawhi: 14 points on 6/22 while getting blown out in Game 7

[HunterSThompson]

How many of those in the playoffs? Oh!!!!!




Playoff 50 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 1

Playoff 40 point games:

Kawhi - 5
Kobe - 12

Playoff 30 point games:

Kawhi - 33
Kobe - 87


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[Gohan]

Playoff 50 point games:

Kawhi - 0
Kobe - 1

Playoff 40 point games:

Kawhi - 5
Kobe - 12

Playoff 30 point games:

Kawhi - 33
Kobe - 87


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This, hell id take iverson over fraudwhi

[HunterSThompson]

Harden has a bunch of those too. Means nothing. Kobe has never had 1 great finals performance.

Finals wins:

Harden = 1
Kobe = 23

playoff wins:

Harden = 72
Kobe = 135

Championships:

Harden = 0
Kobe = 5


Conference championships:

Harden = 1
Kobe = 7

Finals MVP's:

Harden = 0
Kobe = 2

50 win teams eliminated:

Harden = 5
Kobe = 24






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[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Finals wins:

Harden = 1
Kobe = 23

playoff wins:

Harden = 72
Kobe = 135

Championships:

Harden = 0
Kobe = 5


Conference championships:

Harden = 1
Kobe = 7

Finals MVP's:

Harden = 0
Kobe = 2

50 win teams eliminated:

Harden = 5
Kobe = 24






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Harden didn't play with prime shaq. Even pau was better then past his prime Dwight.

Back to kawhi, his 2019 76ers series is better then any Kobe playoff series. His 2019 finals is better then any Kobe finals. His 2019 playoff run was better then any Kobe playoff.

That playoff run 2019 from kawhi shits on kobe's entire career

[HunterSThompson]

Harden didn't play with prime shaq. Even pau was better then past his prime Dwight.

Back to kawhi, his 2019 76ers series is better then any Kobe playoff series. His 2019 finals is better then any Kobe finals. His 2019 playoff run was better then any Kobe playoff.

That playoff run 2019 from kawhi shits on kobe's entire career




Harden teammates:

- PRIME Kevin Durant ( all nba 1st team all 3 years )
- PRIME Russell Westbrook ( all nba 2nd team twice )
- PRIME Chris Paul ( averaging 19/8 and 16/8 )
- PRIME Dwight howard ( all nba 2nd team )
- Eric Gordon ( 6th man of the year )
- Clint Capela ( rebounding champion/FG% leader/defensive monster )
- PJ Tucker ( workhorse/3 point shooter/tough as nails )
- PRIME Russell Westbrook AGAIN ( 3rd team all nba )
- PRIME Kevin Durant AGAIN ( 34ppg playoffs )
- PRIME Kyrie Irving ( going forward )
- Lamarcus Aldridge ( going forward )
- Joe Harris ( going forward )


this is more help than kobe had sorry.


kobe won with pau/odom and scrubs

kobe won with shaq and scrubs


f*ck outa here

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[Kawhi_Why_Not]

We for sure saw that was the case with Kawhi: 14 points on 6/22 while getting blown out in Game 7

That was in a prison bubble with no fans. Its not like getting outscored by Jason terry in the finals with fans

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Harden teammates:

- PRIME Kevin Durant ( all nba 1st team all 3 years )
- PRIME Russell Westbrook ( all nba 2nd team twice )
- PRIME Chris Paul ( averaging 19/8 and 16/8 )
- PRIME Dwight howard ( all nba 2nd team )
- Eric Gordon ( 6th man of the year )
- Clint Capela ( rebounding champion/FG% leader/defensive monster )
- PJ Tucker ( workhorse/3 point shooter/tough as nails )
- PRIME Russell Westbrook AGAIN ( 3rd team all nba )
- PRIME Kevin Durant AGAIN ( 34ppg playoffs )
- PRIME Kyrie Irving ( going forward )
- Lamarcus Aldridge ( going forward )
- Joe Harris ( going forward )


this is more help than kobe had sorry.


kobe won with pau/odom and scrubs

kobe won with shaq and scrubs


f*ck outa here

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Hardens prime hits in 2014. None of his teammates were even half as good as Shaq. Like I said, you were going head to head with mike f'n bibby.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

This, hell id take iverson over fraudwhi

Iverson isn't even better then manu ginobili

[HunterSThompson]

Hardens prime hits in 2014. None of his teammates were even half as good as Shaq. Like I said, you were going head to head with mike f'n bibby.



kobe won twice without shaq dummy. and pau gasol isn't anywhere near most of the guys on that list


one thing hardens never had a shortage of is allstar teammates. hes choked away every opportunity. you're an idiot for even bringing up this comparison. harden and paul are world famous for being the biggest underachieving cucks in nba history

[HunterSThompson]

Iverson isn't even better then manu ginobili

iversons top 30-35 all time. manu is around top 75-80

what?

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

kobe won twice without shaq dummy. and pau gasol isn't anywhere near most of the guys on that list


one thing hardens never had a shortage of is allstar teammates. hes choked away every opportunity. you're an idiot for even bringing up this comparison. harden and paul are world famous for being the biggest underachieving cucks in nba history

It's not harden's fault that Chris Paul got hurt in 2018 when they were up 3-2.

Prime Pau was still better then past his prime Dwight as well. I would even take prime Pau over prime Dwight straight up, let alone 2015 dwight. Pau actually knows how to post up.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

iversons top 30-35 all time. manu is around top 75-80

what?

manu's 2005 playoff run is better then anything iverson ever did.

[kawhileonard2]

Kawhi has 2 career playoff games past the 1st round including zero in the conference finals or Finals.

Put the crack pipe down son.

[GrayGoat]

Kawhi never played with a top 5 player like Kobe

[HunterSThompson]

manu's 2005 playoff run is better then anything iverson ever did.

Chauncey billups 2004 title is better than anything Iverson accomplished team wise also. doesn't mean he's better than Iverson as an individual talent either


if Manu had a spine he woulda spoke up to pop about coming off the bench and throwing away his career but he didn't have the balls. oh well too bad


lucky for him he's an international player and their bar for the hall of fame is way lower

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Chauncey billups 2004 title is better than anything Iverson accomplished team wise also. doesn't mean he's better than Iverson as an individual talent either


if Manu had a spine he woulda spoke up to pop about coming off the bench and throwing away his career but he didn't have the balls. oh well too bad


lucky for him he's an international player and their bar for the hall of fame is way lower

He was starting majority games in 2005 and played like the best player in the NBA. Outplayed Steve Nash.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Kawhi never played with a top 5 player like Kobe

Exactly and I can only imagine with Phil and the triangle could of done for Kawhi

[Session]

Kawhi never played with a top 5 player like Kobe
How many power forwards better than Tim Duncan in NBA history?

[HunterSThompson]

Exactly and I can only imagine with Phil and the triangle could of done for Kawhi

just posted this in the other thread.

a collection of really good teammates is just as good as having one great teammate

which is why kobe and shaq lost in 2003 and 2004..

and also why the spurs beat the heat in 2014 and should have in 2013. you don't need a top heavy team when your best player takes a massive pay cut so.you can stack the deck 12 deep like the spurs.

same with the Raptors. they only needed one star and a bunch of really good players.

same with kobe and gasol. a 19ppg top 15-20 player or so. not much more. so stop crying about kawhi never having another top 5 player. God knows he tried colluding with another top 5 type talent in PG. he's just never been able to put it together for a whole season. and since then kawhis had nothing but bad luck cause he resorted to the same BS lebron and Durant did and KG did before them. he's a cheater and a bum and his 2019 ring is legit but it woulda been nicer if the other teams best player wasn't hurt during the series. and yes other top players have gone out other years but almost never DURING THE FINALS to secure an easy title for the other team.


and my God. imagine complaining about Kobe having Phil while cheering for a guy that literally ditched popovich

:facepalm

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

just posted this in the other thread.

a collection of really good teammates is just as good as having one great teammate

which is why kobe and shaq lost in 2003 and 2004..

and also why the spurs beat the heat in 2014 and should have in 2013. you don't need a top heavy team when your best player takes a massive pay cut so.you can stack the deck 12 deep like the spurs.

same with the Raptors. they only needed one star and a bunch of really good players.

same with kobe and gasol. a 19ppg top 15-20 player or so. not much more. so stop crying about kawhi never having another top 5 player. God knows he tried colluding with another top 5 type talent in PG. he's just never been able to put it together for a whole season. and since then kawhis had nothing but bad luck cause he resorted to the same BS lebron and Durant did and KG did before them. he's a cheater and a bum and his 2019 ring is legit but it woulda been nicer if the other teams best player wasn't hurt during the series. and yes other top players have gone out other years but almost never DURING THE FINALS to secure an easy title for the other team.


and my God. imagine complaining about Kobe having Phil while cheering for a guy that literally ditched popovich

:facepalm

but when your team has two top 5 players on it, that stacks the deck. Heat 2014 wade was no longer a top 5 player.

Paul George has never even been close to guys like shaq, curry, Durant. He's barely pau gasol level.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

How many power forwards better than Tim Duncan in NBA history?

He was washed up by 2014. Barely averaged 12PPG for most of the finals.