View Full Version : Tom Brady to Retire
1987_Lakers
01-29-2022, 03:41 PM
RIP to a great career.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/29/report-tom-brady-retirement-announcement-likely-coming-soon/
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/01/29/tom-brady-formal-retirement-announcement-expected-shortly-report/
CelticBaller
01-29-2022, 03:49 PM
The greatest
Wally450
01-29-2022, 04:13 PM
Greatest of All Time.
John8204
01-29-2022, 07:16 PM
Farewell to one of the ten best QB's of all-time. Nobody worked the system to win more than him and even though at no point in his career was he ever the best QB in the league he still gets to be considered the GOAT to some people.
Nanners
01-30-2022, 07:26 AM
Theres no way that this is really the end of Bradys career. If he actually retires (which he has not confirmed), it wont be permanent.
I predict Brady ends up on one of the California teams, most likely the niners. Heres how its probably gonna go down - Garoppolo is going to choke this week or in the superbowl, and hes gonna suck and/or get hurt at the start of next season, at which point the team signs Brady. So Brady ends up replacing the guy who was drafted to replace him 8 years ago, and then he leads the 9ers (his hometown team he grew up watching and the team where Montana won all his titles) to another championship.
CelticBaller
01-30-2022, 09:49 AM
Farewell to one of the ten best QB's of all-time. Nobody worked the system to win more than him and even though at no point in his career was he ever the best QB in the league he still gets to be considered the GOAT to some people.
who was better than him in 2010?
Nanners
01-30-2022, 11:35 AM
who was better than him in 2010?
It must have been that other guy who is 7x superbowl champ, 5x superbowl MVP, and holds virtually every record associated with passing in all of NFL history
John8204
01-30-2022, 09:01 PM
who was better than him in 2010?
Every QB that won a playoff game that season
CelticBaller
01-30-2022, 09:02 PM
Every QB that won a playoff game that season
So Tom Brady had 7 seasons where he was the best QB in the league then
John8204
01-30-2022, 10:51 PM
So Tom Brady had 7 seasons where he was the best QB in the league then
Do you have Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, and Bart Starr in your top five or top ten?
Title's are terrible metrics in football. To me greatness is how you distinguish yourself from your peers...
1. Johnny Unitas
2. Peyton Manning
3. Joe Montana
4. Brett Favre
5. Tom Brady
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Otto Graham
10. Drew Brees
1987_Lakers
01-30-2022, 11:07 PM
Do you have Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, and Bart Starr in your top five or top ten?
Title's are terrible metrics in football. To me greatness is how you distinguish yourself from your peers...
1. Johnny Unitas
2. Peyton Manning
3. Joe Montana
4. Brett Favre
5. Tom Brady
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Otto Graham
10. Drew Brees
What a terrible list.
bladefd
01-30-2022, 11:39 PM
Do you have Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, and Bart Starr in your top five or top ten?
Title's are terrible metrics in football. To me greatness is how you distinguish yourself from your peers...
1. Johnny Unitas
2. Peyton Manning
3. Joe Montana
4. Brett Favre
5. Tom Brady
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Otto Graham
10. Drew Brees
I think his top 10 is the following:
1. Tom Brady
2. Tom Brady
3. Tom Brady
4. Tom Brady
5. Tom Brady
6. Tom Brady
7. Tom Brady
8. Tom Brady
9. Tom Brady
10. Tom Brady
You are not going to go far arguing with any Brady fan.
SouBeachTalents
01-31-2022, 12:06 AM
Farewell to one of the ten best QB's of all-time. Nobody worked the system to win more than him and even though at no point in his career was he ever the best QB in the league he still gets to be considered the GOAT to some people.
Do you have Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, and Bart Starr in your top five or top ten?
Title's are terrible metrics in football. To me greatness is how you distinguish yourself from your peers...
1. Johnny Unitas
2. Peyton Manning
3. Joe Montana
4. Brett Favre
5. Tom Brady
6. Fran Tarkenton
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Otto Graham
10. Drew Brees
Guess basketball isn't the only sport you're clueless about.
John8204
01-31-2022, 12:24 AM
Guess basketball isn't the only sport you're clueless about.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/poll.php?pollid=734&do=showresults
You might have credibility if you didn't have Lebron outside the top 15 all-time.
AirBonner
01-31-2022, 04:58 AM
Brady is easily the goat. Chips are a byproduct of his goat production
John8204
01-31-2022, 06:10 AM
Brady is easily the goat. Chips are a byproduct of his goat production
And I disagree because championships need to be a consistent metric...when all the other greats have 2-3 championships looking at players that have more than that takes away from their legacy. Brady walked onto a team that was going to win titles...he had very little to do with it. He hung around long enough and acquired rings and stats because of time and rule changes...but he was always replaceable.
The winning-est baseball player of all time is clearly top five in his position, multi-time MVP and he wasn't even a first ballot Hall of famer.
AirBonner
01-31-2022, 11:29 AM
And I disagree because championships need to be a consistent metric...when all the other greats have 2-3 championships looking at players that have more than that takes away from their legacy. Brady walked onto a team that was going to win titles...he had very little to do with it. He hung around long enough and acquired rings and stats because of time and rule changes...but he was always replaceable.
The winning-est baseball player of all time is clearly top five in his position, multi-time MVP and he wasn't even a first ballot Hall of famer.
Brady consistently lifted teams worse than Rodgers and Mahomes had to the super bowl.
AirBonner
01-31-2022, 11:30 AM
And I disagree because championships need to be a consistent metric...when all the other greats have 2-3 championships looking at players that have more than that takes away from their legacy. Brady walked onto a team that was going to win titles...he had very little to do with it. He hung around long enough and acquired rings and stats because of time and rule changes...but he was always replaceable.
The winning-est baseball player of all time is clearly top five in his position, multi-time MVP and he wasn't even a first ballot Hall of famer.
Imagine Brady with prime Moss and Gronk on the same team for 5 healthy years. That’s basically what Mahomes is struggling to work with :oldlol:
CelticBaller
01-31-2022, 01:22 PM
>says Tom Brady has never been the best QB in the league
>points out the year Tom Brady was unanimously chosen as the MVP
> claims every QB with a playoff win that year was better
> points out the 7 Super Bowl
> now claims playoffs wins aren’t relevant
Lmao
AirBonner
01-31-2022, 02:03 PM
>says Tom Brady has never been the best QB in the league
>points out the year Tom Brady was unanimously chosen as the MVP
> claims every QB with a playoff win that year was better
> points out the 7 Super Bowl
> now claims playoffs wins aren’t relevant
Lmao
It’s hilarious how much gymnastics they have to do to discredit Brady. On top of it Brady also played in the league when they actually hit quarterbacks
bladefd
01-31-2022, 02:33 PM
Why do we act like Brady carried a bunch of scrubs to the superbowl over and over again in his backpack without any help?
Let's consider the facts. Brady had the greatest coach in nfl history coaching him for most of his career. He always had elite o-lines. He always had elite defenses. He always had the greatest kicker in nfl history in Vinatieri for first half of his career then Gostkowski, another great kicker. He always had 1 great receiver from Wes Welker to Julian Edelman. Hernandez and Gronk were consistently there in the 2nd half of his career. For a couple years of his first half of his career, he had randy moss. He had plenty of help over the years so let's not act as if we feel sorry for the poor guy for having to carry his scrub teams.
AirBonner
01-31-2022, 02:41 PM
Why do we act like Brady carried a bunch of scrubs to the superbowl over and over again in his backpack without any help?
Let's consider the facts. Brady had the greatest coach in nfl history coaching him for most of his career. He always had elite o-lines. He always had elite defenses. He always had the greatest kicker in nfl history in Vinatieri for first half of his career then Gostkowski, another great kicker. He always had 1 great receiver from Wes Welker to Julian Edelman. Hernandez and Gronk were consistently there in the 2nd half of his career. For a couple years of his first half of his career, he had randy moss. He had plenty of help over the years so let's not act as if we feel sorry for the poor guy for having to carry his scrub teams.
Let’s stop acting like Rodgers and Mahomes don’t have comparable teams. When Brady has good teams more than not he wins.
John8204
01-31-2022, 06:09 PM
>says Tom Brady has never been the best QB in the league
>points out the year Tom Brady was unanimously chosen as the MVP
> claims every QB with a playoff win that year was better
> points out the 7 Super Bowl
> now claims playoffs wins aren’t relevant
Lmao
1. Often times I wouldn't even say he wasn't even top five, he's always been a game manager.
2. It was a joke...but he was MVP and then lost to Mark Sanchez and the Jets
3. And I point out that in the NFL you have a tipping point between being on a great team and being a great player.
4. Ofcourse playoff wins are relevant but when you look at every player you could call the GOAT...they don't have 7 rings
Lawrence Taylor - 2
Johnny Unitas - 3
Jim Brown - 1
Peyton Manning - 2
Deion Sanders - 2
Jerry Rice - 3
Joe Montana - 4
Walter Payton - 1
Don Hutson - 3
Reggie White - 1
CelticBaller
01-31-2022, 07:10 PM
tom brady led the league in TDs and Yards in his 3rd and 4th year over non "game managers"
get real
AirBonner
01-31-2022, 07:54 PM
tom brady led the league in TDs and Yards in his 3rd and 4th year over non "game managers"
get real
They have no argument. Brady derangement syndrome is real and a coping mechanism
bladefd
01-31-2022, 08:09 PM
1. Often times I wouldn't even say he wasn't even top five, he's always been a game manager.
2. It was a joke...but he was MVP and then lost to Mark Sanchez and the Jets
3. And I point out that in the NFL you have a tipping point between being on a great team and being a great player.
4. Ofcourse playoff wins are relevant but when you look at every player you could call the GOAT...they don't have 7 rings
Lawrence Taylor - 2
Johnny Unitas - 3
Jim Brown - 1
Peyton Manning - 2
Deion Sanders - 2
Jerry Rice - 3
Joe Montana - 4
Walter Payton - 1
Don Hutson - 3
Reggie White - 1
Also look at how many of those had elite coaching, elite o-lines, elite defenses, elite kicker, at least one consistent stud receiver providing a passing blanket. All of those factors for 20yrs.
Peyton Manning had some of those for various pieces of his career but not all at once and certainly not for his entire career.
Joe Montana had most of that for a decade so he is very close. Jerry Rice being there puts him in same boat as Montana.
Rodgers certainly has not had that. Just an elite kicker and at least one stud receiver at all times. That is it. He had elite o-line for a couple years here, couple years there but never consistent.
Brady is legendary and an all-time winner, but we must not lose track of what was backing him. Only Montana had anything close for 10yrs (won 4 chips in that span), but his career was cut short by injuries. Brady had that for 20yrs in a league that protected qbs/receivers more than any time in history. Montana didn't have that protection that severely crippled the opposing defenses.
I believe Montana would have had just as much or probably much more success if he lived through Brady's 22yrs in the NFL from early 2000s to early 2020s. (Montana won 4 chips in 10yrs under much difficult circumstances facing defenses that the rules allowed them to beat the crap out of you, your receivers, tight-ends, etc).
AirBonner
01-31-2022, 08:14 PM
Also look at how many of those had elite coaching, elite o-lines, elite defenses, elite kicker, at least one consistent stud receiver providing a passing blanket. All of those factors for 20yrs.
Peyton Manning had some of those for various pieces of his career but not all at once and certainly not for his entire career.
Joe Montana had most of that for a decade so he is very close. Jerry Rice being there puts him in same boat as Montana.
Rodgers certainly has not had that. Just an elite kicker and at least one stud receiver at all times. That is it. He had elite o-line for a couple years here, couple years there but never consistent.
Brady is legendary and an all-time winner, but we must not lose track of what was backing him. Only Montana had anything close for 10yrs (won 4 chips in that span), but his career was cut short by injuries. Brady had that for 20yrs in a league that protected qbs/receivers more than any time in history. Montana didn't have that protection that severely crippled the opposing defenses.
I believe Montana would have had just as much or probably much more success if he lived through Brady's 22yrs in the NFL from early 2000s to early 2020s. (Montana won 4 chips in 10yrs under much difficult circumstances facing defenses that the rules allowed them to beat the crap out of you, your receivers, tight-ends, etc).
For all 20 years? Nahh you are delusional
CelticBaller
01-31-2022, 08:22 PM
Also look at how many of those had elite coaching, elite o-lines, elite defenses, elite kicker, at least one consistent stud receiver providing a passing blanket. All of those factors for 20yrs.
Peyton Manning had some of those for various pieces of his career but not all at once and certainly not for his entire career.
Joe Montana had most of that for a decade so he is very close. Jerry Rice being there puts him in same boat as Montana.
Rodgers certainly has not had that. Just an elite kicker and at least one stud receiver at all times. That is it. He had elite o-line for a couple years here, couple years there but never consistent.
Brady is legendary and an all-time winner, but we must not lose track of what was backing him. Only Montana had anything close for 10yrs (won 4 chips in that span), but his career was cut short by injuries. Brady had that for 20yrs in a league that protected qbs/receivers more than any time in history. Montana didn't have that protection that severely crippled the opposing defenses.
I believe Montana would have had just as much or probably much more success if he lived through Brady's 22yrs in the NFL from early 2000s to early 2020s. (Montana won 4 chips in 10yrs under much difficult circumstances facing defenses that the rules allowed them to beat the crap out of you, your receivers, tight-ends, etc).
Brady won half of his rings before the carson palmer/brady rule lol
AirBonner
01-31-2022, 08:39 PM
Brady won half of his rings before the carson palmer/brady rule lol
Debunked again
John8204
01-31-2022, 09:14 PM
They have no argument. Brady derangement syndrome is real and a coping mechanism
Yeah y'know it's not like his numbers weren't inflated by having 6 games a year against the Dolphins, Jets, and Bills.
Also...um the juicing the balls
making large payments to teams secretaries
In 2007, Bill Belichick’s name surfaced in a manner that he hoped didn’t after becoming involved in a divorce court case.
Sharon Shenocca testified in February 2007 that Belichick sent her at least $150,00 to pay for lavish vacations as she labeled it as being only through his “generosity.”
Shenocca previously met the future Hall of Fame head coach when they worked with the New York Giants. She served as a receptionist while he was an assistant coach. The relationship between the two came to the public light after Shenocca and her husband, Vincent Shenocca, split in 2006.
Vincent accused his wife of adultery with Belichick, which became a prevalent topic in the court case. However, he dropped that discussion entirely; the financial support that the Patriots head coach provided gave the feeling of “hush” money for the situation.
headset malfunctions
At least five teams have suspected Patriots of headset tampering
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 11, 2015, 9:38 AM EDT
AP
The term “Headsetgate” has just been coined and may not last, but the allegations that the Patriots tamper with visiting teams’ communications at Gillette Stadium are nothing new.
With the Steelers suggesting that something was afoul on Thursday night in New England, there are now at least five teams that have accused the Patriots of tampering with communications:
1. After the Jaguars lost to the Patriots in the playoffs following the 2005 season, then-Jacksonville coach Jack Del Rio said the headsets “mysteriously malfunctioned.”
2. In 2006, then-Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz suspected the Patriots of preventing him from communicating with his quarterback. As reported by Paul Zimmerman of Sports Illustrated, Martz had Detroit’s offense off to a good start until he lost the ability to call plays because the communications system went out. According to that report, it happened to the Lions twice, both times in the middle of drives when the Lions were picking up steam.
3. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis was quoted by Zimmerman as responding to Martz’s accusation by saying the same thing that happened to the Lions had happened to the Bengals as well: “Yeah, I know,” Lewis said. “Headset went out. It happened to me in Foxboro, too.”
4. Karlos Dansby said in an appearance on PFT Live this year that he suspected the Patriots of wrongdoing in 2008, when Dansby’s Cardinals visited New England and had trouble with their coach-to-helmet communications system.
5. The Steelers now become at least the fifth team making accusations, with the team saying that its coach-to-coach communications repeatedly faced interference from the Patriots’ radio broadcast, and that the interference would stop when a league official came to the sideline to deal with it, only to start up again when the league official walked away.
If this were baseball all of the shady stuff would keep him out of the Hall. He's basically Football's Pete Rose everyone knows he's dirty but he's popular so we don't talk about it.
AirBonner
01-31-2022, 09:46 PM
Yeah y'know it's not like his numbers weren't inflated by having 6 games a year against the Dolphins, Jets, and Bills.
Also...um the juicing the balls
making large payments to teams secretaries
headset malfunctions
If this were baseball all of the shady stuff would keep him out of the Hall. He's basically Football's Pete Rose everyone knows he's dirty but he's popular so we don't talk about it.
And the raiders and Ravens had teams full of would be juiced up prisoners. Cry me a river
1987_Lakers
01-31-2022, 09:54 PM
Yeah y'know it's not like his numbers weren't inflated by having 6 games a year against the Dolphins, Jets, and Bills.
Also...um the juicing the balls
making large payments to teams secretaries
headset malfunctions
If this were baseball all of the shady stuff would keep him out of the Hall. He's basically Football's Pete Rose everyone knows he's dirty but he's popular so we don't talk about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5LisjE-VUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuXSg8nvSdM
John8204
01-31-2022, 10:08 PM
And the raiders and Ravens had teams full of would be juiced up prisoners. Cry me a river
Huh...The Raiders...I seem to recall something about the Raiders what was that again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uehs_Uzo4Cs
bladefd
02-01-2022, 12:09 AM
For all 20 years? Nahh you are delusional
Brady had elite coaching, elite o-lines, elite defenses, elite kicker for his entire career.
You could say Deion Branch wasn't elite WR so until 2007, Brady was missing an elite WR. That changed in 2007 when Randy Moss and Wes Welker arrived. Since 2007, Brady always had a stud receiver (both with Patriots and Bucs). That's 15 consecutive seasons. It's pretty much unheard of.
CelticBaller
02-01-2022, 10:57 AM
Who could forget the elite defense the patriots had in 2011 with the legendary Julian Edelman playing CB :applause:
Wally450
02-01-2022, 12:23 PM
Brady had elite coaching, elite o-lines, elite defenses, elite kicker for his entire career.
You could say Deion Branch wasn't elite WR so until 2007, Brady was missing an elite WR. That changed in 2007 when Randy Moss and Wes Welker arrived. Since 2007, Brady always had a stud receiver (both with Patriots and Bucs). That's 15 consecutive seasons. It's pretty much unheard of.
2013? 2019?
John8204
02-01-2022, 03:21 PM
Who could forget the elite defense the patriots had in 2011 with the legendary Julian Edelman playing CB :applause:
Yes they only had 8 pro-bowlers that season
Tom Brady, QB
Wes Welker, WR
Matthew Slater, ST
Rob Gronkowski, TE
Logan Mankins, G
Brian Waters, G
Andre Carter, DE
Vince Wilfork, DT
1987_Lakers
02-01-2022, 03:37 PM
Who could forget the elite defense the patriots had in 2011 with the legendary Julian Edelman playing CB :applause:
Lol, I was just about to say Tom Brady took 2 teams to the super bowl with bad defenses, 2011 & 2017.
I also remember his O-Line being pretty bad in 2015 and 2019. To say Brady had elite defenses and offensive line play his entire career is wrong.
John8204
02-01-2022, 04:13 PM
Lol, I was just about to say Tom Brady took 2 teams to the super bowl with bad defenses, 2011 & 2017.
I also remember his O-Line being pretty bad in 2015 and 2019. To say Brady had elite defenses and offensive line play his entire career is wrong.
Really he was able to use his terrible defenses(with multiple probowlers) to beat Tim Tebow, Marcus Mariotta and Blake Bortles what an accomplishment
https://c.tenor.com/YV_txQTmGuQAAAAM/dewayne-johnson-dwayne.gif
1987_Lakers
02-01-2022, 05:28 PM
Really he was able to use his terrible defenses(with multiple probowlers) to beat Tim Tebow, Marcus Mariotta and Blake Bortles what an accomplishment
https://c.tenor.com/YV_txQTmGuQAAAAM/dewayne-johnson-dwayne.gif
The funny thing is, that Jaguars team had like a top 5 scoring offense that year and probably the best running team in the NFL. Didn't they drop like 45 points on the Steelers the week before or something? Shit, in the AFCCG the Pats D made Bortles look pretty damn good at times, it's one of the reasons why the Jaguars made the mistake in bringing him back the next year.
Also find it funny how you have Peyton Manning as pretty much the best QB in the super bowl era given all his choke jobs in the playoffs.
John8204
02-01-2022, 06:16 PM
The funny thing is, that Jaguars team had like a top 5 scoring offense that year and probably the best running team in the NFL. Didn't they drop like 45 points on the Steelers the week before or something? Shit, in the AFCCG the Pats D made Bortles look pretty damn good at times, it's one of the reasons why the Jaguars made the mistake in bringing him back the next year.
Also find it funny how you have Peyton Manning as pretty much the best QB in the super bowl era given all his choke jobs in the playoffs.
In the playoffs
Brady vs Manning w Mangini 0-2
Brady vs Manning wo Mangini 3-0
So even Manning's "choke jobs" are iffy to me thanks to spygate.
1987_Lakers
02-01-2022, 06:52 PM
In the playoffs
Brady vs Manning w Mangini 0-2
Brady vs Manning wo Mangini 3-0
So even Manning's "choke jobs" are iffy to me thanks to spygate.
You would have to be a fool to believe Manning's only choke jobs came against the Patriots. There are so many examples of him coming up short.
2002 - Embarrassing 41-0 loss where he threw under 150 yards and 2 picks
2005 - One and done despite being the #1 seed
2009 - Throws horrible picks 6 in the super bowl that cost them the game
2012 - One and done despite being the #1 seed. Throws terrible INT in OT that cost them the game
2013 - Got absolutely murdered in the super bowl
The 2 super bowls he won? Got carried by his defense.
2006 Manning in the playoffs - 3 TDs | 7 INTs | 71 QB rating
2015 Manning in the playoffs - 2 TDs | 1 INT | 75 QB rating
:oldlol:
John8204
02-01-2022, 07:05 PM
You would have to be a fool to believe Manning's only choke jobs came against the Patriots. There are so many examples of him coming up short.
2002 - Embarrassing 41-0 loss where he threw under 150 yards and 2 picks
2005 - One and done despite being the #1 seed
2009 - Throws horrible picks 6 in the super bowl that cost them the game
2012 - One and done despite being the #1 seed. Throws terrible INT in OT that cost them the game
2013 - Got absolutely murdered in the super bowl
The 2 super bowls he won? Got carried by his defense.
2006 Manning in the playoffs - 3 TDs | 7 INTs | 71 QB rating
2015 Manning in the playoffs - 2 TDs | 1 INT | 75 QB rating
:oldlol:
in 2006 The Colts were ranked 21st in Defense, he beat the number 1 defense that year (Ravens), and both #1 seeds (Bears, Patriots)
in 2015 The Broncos beat the AFC's #1 and #2 offenses (Steelers, Patriots) and a 15-1 Panthers team with the MVP
Oh but his numbers weren't good
1987_Lakers
02-01-2022, 07:23 PM
in 2006 The Colts were ranked 21st in Defense, he beat the number 1 defense that year (Ravens), and both #1 seeds (Bears, Patriots)
in 2015 The Broncos beat the AFC's #1 and #2 offenses (Steelers, Patriots) and a 15-1 Panthers team with the MVP
Oh but his numbers weren't good
Yea, lets ignore the fact that the Broncos in 2015 had a legendary defense while Manning was the worst starting QB in the NFL at that point, even benched by Osweiler at one point.
That Colts defense held the Ravens to 6 points in 2006 while Manning threw for 170 yards and 2 INTs. And no, the Pats were not the #1 seed that year, that was the Chargers. Manning had a mediocre performance in the super bowl vs the Bears as well, the story of the game was the Colts defense holding the Bears offense to 7 points and only 265 yards. (Hester returned a kick off for a TD).
Manning was pretty mediocre in both postseasons.
CelticBaller
02-01-2022, 08:36 PM
Yes they only had 8 pro-bowlers that season
Tom Brady, QB
Wes Welker, WR
Matthew Slater, ST
Rob Gronkowski, TE
Logan Mankins, G
Brian Waters, G
Andre Carter, DE
Vince Wilfork, DT
i'm done speaking with you dumbass troll
CelticBaller
02-01-2022, 08:37 PM
anways Brady always had an elite defense. I remember the legendary Mathew Slater lining up at FS in an AFC championship game
warriorfan
02-02-2022, 08:50 AM
I used to hate on Brady when he was making the Patriots surpass the Niners in Super Bowls but I have gotten over it and it is nice. It’s hilarious to watch whiny dumb shits like John and bladefd. Btw blade earlier in this thread legit complained about Tom Brady’s kickers. :roll: :roll:
Nanners
02-03-2022, 05:20 AM
in 2006 The Colts were ranked 21st in Defense, he beat the number 1 defense that year (Ravens), and both #1 seeds (Bears, Patriots)
in 2015 The Broncos beat the AFC's #1 and #2 offenses (Steelers, Patriots) and a 15-1 Panthers team with the MVP
Oh but his numbers weren't good
The 2006 Colts team had 2 of the best pass rushers in the league (Freeny + Mathis) and they had Bob Sanders who had an INT and a forced fumble in that superbowl (he was hurt during for most of the regular season but played in all 4 playoff games... and he went on to win DMVP the following year). On offense Peyton was throwing at Marvin Harrison (hall of famer) and Reggie Wayne.
The 2015 Broncos won because they were ridiculous stacked on defense... Manning had 104 passing yards with zero TD and 2 turnovers in that game :oldlol: (despite having prime demaryius and emmanuel sanders to throw the ball to).
In Bradys entire career, did he ever once have a team as stacked with talent as the ones that carried Peyton in both of his championship years?
Nanners
02-03-2022, 05:28 AM
I used to hate on Brady when he was making the Patriots surpass the Niners in Super Bowls but I have gotten over it and it is nice. It’s hilarious to watch whiny dumb shits like John and bladefd. Btw blade earlier in this thread legit complained about Tom Brady’s kickers. :roll: :roll:
You're gonna love Brady next year, when the niners sign him mid-season to replace Garoppolo and he takes yall back to the superbowl
warriorfan
02-05-2022, 12:56 AM
You're gonna love Brady next year, when the niners sign him mid-season to replace Garoppolo and he takes yall back to the superbowl
I hope you are right. That would be incredible. We need him as bad as anyone right now.
CelticBaller
03-13-2022, 07:22 PM
andddd hes back :lol
Derka
03-14-2022, 08:41 AM
What a douchebag thing to do. It was douchey when Favre did it and its douchey now that Brady's doing it.
Giselle must be getting her own private island out of this.
John8204
03-14-2022, 09:33 AM
I am shocked SHOCKED that the GOAT the GREATEST OF ALL-TIME decided that he needed to announce on selection Sunday that he was crawling back to the NFL. It's almost like he's a little bitch who figures the heat will die down as the NCAA tournament rolls on.
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