Bron won a ring and FMVP in 2020

[StrongLurk]

All while dealing with Kobe's death, the emergence of Covid, and a complete shutdown of the world.

2020 playoffs - 21 games, 28/11/9/1/1 on 56/37/72 splits, 30.2 PER, 64.7 TS%, 10.7 BPM

And yet we have losers on this site who say he hasn't done anything out West lol.

[3ba11]

He could only win out West as the "pippen", where AD led him and the whole league in playoff scoring

Now that AD can't be lebron's "jordan", Lebron can't win out West anymore

He only won when the brittle AD got several months off before the playoff run, which allowed AD to be the "Jordan" that Lebron needs to win out West

And we all saw AD carry the Lakers to the Finals by dominating future MVP Jokic... Only Lebron has sidekicks outplay league MVP's or FMVP's like Bosh outlaying Rose in the 11' ECF.. Or Kyrie demolishing Curry, or Wade outlaying fmvp Dirk, and AD destroying Joker

[SouBeachTalents]

All while dealing with Kobe's death, the emergence of Covid, and a complete shutdown of the world.

2020 playoffs - 21 games, 28/11/9/1/1 on 56/37/72 splits, 30.2 PER, 64.7 TS%, 10.7 BPM

And yet we have losers on this site who say he hasn't done anything out West lol.
Pippen stats bro

[Spurs m8]

What an insecure, b1tchmade thread.

No one cares about the Disney scrimmage ring

No AD, no success out West.

Kobe also thought Bron was a b1tch

[Full Court]

All while dealing with Kobe's death, the emergence of Covid, and a complete shutdown of the world.


Is there some reason that Kobe's death, the emergence of COVID, and world shutdown affected him any more than it affected anyone else?

[FKAri]

I don't see how a HUGE narcissist* would be particularly emotional over someone else's death.
And what's the point of this thread? It's gonna be the usual suspects with Lebron's GOAT vs he's a bitch.

*I'm speaking hypothetically of course. We all know Lebron's the empathetic GOAT :bowdown:

[RogueBorg]

All while dealing with Kobe's death, the emergence of Covid, and a complete shutdown of the world.

2020 playoffs - 21 games, 28/11/9/1/1 on 56/37/72 splits, 30.2 PER, 64.7 TS%, 10.7 BPM

And yet we have losers on this site who say he hasn't done anything out West lol.

AD did lead the Lakers in scoring throughout the playoffs.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

No fans, no travel, trapped inside a prison hotel.

Nobody will remember it. Glorified scrimmage games. Even the 1950s rings have more value.

[warriorfan]

Bubble exhibition games don’t count

[Akeem34TheDream]

Nobody watched that finals

[StrongLurk]

So much butthurt in this thread :roll:

"Lebron didn't do nuffin'"

[AirBonner]

Fmvp and chip. “Didn’t do anything”

[3ba11]

Fmvp and chip. “Didn’t do anything”


Lebron has never defeated maximum defensive attention to win a title because he never carried the scoring load while winning a Finals.

So he can't beat max defensive attention and doesn't know how to win (organic)

[AirBonner]

Lebron has never defeated maximum defensive attention to win a title because he never carried the scoring load while winning a Finals.

So he can't beat max defensive attention and doesn't know how to win (organic)

Meltdown.

[Full Court]

Fmvp and chip. “Didn’t do anything”

Nobody said he didn't do anything. He and AD did beat Jimmy Butler and Duncan Robinson while Bam Adebayo was injured.

[StrongLurk]

Nobody said he didn't do anything. He and AD did beat Jimmy Butler and Duncan Robinson while Bam Adebayo was injured.

There are multiple posters in this thread who have spammed many times that Lebron is a lottery player out West and hasn't "done anything".

Also you troll/hate on Lebron plenty Full Court (albeit I don't think as much as some of the other posters in this thread).

Why can't we just appreciate great players? How are so many posters here getting their lives ruined over dumb shit? I love MJ, Shaq, Kobe, and Bron. Duncan was boring to me but I don't ever deny his basketball ability. Durant is incredible and a GOAT level scorer. Curry is like an alien with his shooting ability.

I think the only superstar level player that I legit can't watch play is Harden, but I still admit he has amazing basketball talent. How is this so hard for people to do and why can't they rise above the dumb, modern fandom toxicity?

[SATAN]

Good thread, OP. :applause:

[3ba11]

Meltdown.



PLAYOFF PPG

20' AD............ 27.7
20' Lebron..... 27.6

16' Kyrie....... 25.2
16' Lebron.... 26.2

11' Wade...... 24.5
11' Lebron.... 23.7


Equal-scoring partners attract equal defensive attention, so Lebron didn't face maximum defensive attention for various playoff runs and every Finals win - any period without facing maximum defensive attention/burden are inflated stats compared to Jordan, who always faced maximum defensive attention by carrying the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run.

Lebron's high scoring is too ball-dominant to beat good teams and his efficiency dips at higher jumpshooting volumes.. Since Lebron can't carry the scoring load, he needs equal-scoring partners (1b teammates) and 3rd stars (super-teams)

[Full Court]

There are multiple posters in this thread who have spammed many times that Lebron is a lottery player out West and hasn't "done anything".

Also you troll/hate on Lebron plenty Full Court (albeit I don't think as much as some of the other posters in this thread).

Why can't we just appreciate great players? How are so many posters here getting their lives ruined over dumb shit? I love MJ, Shaq, Kobe, and Bron. Duncan was boring to me but I don't ever deny his basketball ability. Durant is incredible and a GOAT level scorer. Curry is like an alien with his shooting ability.

I think the only superstar level player that I legit can't watch play is Harden, but I still admit he has amazing basketball talent. How is this so hard for people to do and why can't they rise above the dumb, modern fandom toxicity?

Mostly it's in response to the over-the-top nonsense that comes from the Lebronies. I mean, do you see the threads that posters like TheCorporation put out on a daily basis?

And as far as denying the ability of great players, I think everyone on here has Lebron in the top 10 of all time. I don't understand why anyone would care who someone else thinks is "GOAT," but any time someone doesn't have Lebron as #1, a group of people start with personal attacks like they think it's their mission to right a "wrong." Lol.

I've pointed this out, and all I've gotten back is that "Jordan fans started it all back in the day." Well, that may be, and I wasn't around for all that, but what I see now is it mostly coming from the Lebronies.

But yes, I do agree with you that it would be better if everyone just appreciated talent like fans SHOULD do. But even when someone starts a thread that has nothing to do with Jordan or Lebron, someone usually comes out of the woodwork and hijacks it. :confusedshrug:

[Mr. Woke]

He could only win out West as the "pippen", where AD led him and the whole league in playoff scoring

Now that AD can't be lebron's "jordan", Lebron can't win out West anymore

He only won when the brittle AD got several months off before the playoff run, which allowed AD to be the "Jordan" that Lebron needs to win out West

And we all saw AD carry the Lakers to the Finals by dominating future MVP Jokic... Only Lebron has sidekicks outplay league MVP's or FMVP's like Bosh outlaying Rose in the 11' ECF.. Or Kyrie demolishing Curry, or Wade outlaying fmvp Dirk, and AD destroying Joker

LeBron was still the best player overall on that team, not AD.

Pure cope. Every other team had time off.

Bosh was never better than LBJ in Miami. Kyrie was never better than LBJ in Cleveland. Wade was never better than him in Miami. AD has never been better than him in LA.

Your analysis is dogshit.

[3ba11]

There are multiple posters in this thread who have spammed many times that Lebron is a lottery player out West and hasn't "done anything".





Stop pretending it's a troll - the historical record shows that Lebron is lottery-caliber for 3 of 4 years out West, and he only made the Finals out West by having a teammate carry him - AD was the "Jordan" in the 2020 Western Conference Playoffs, while Lebron was the "pippen"

[StrongLurk]

Mostly it's in response to the over-the-top nonsense that comes from the Lebronies. I mean, do you see the threads that posters like TheCorporation put out on a daily basis?

And as far as denying the ability of great players, I think everyone on here has Lebron in the top 10 of all time. I don't understand why anyone would care who someone else thinks is "GOAT," but any time someone doesn't have Lebron as #1, a group of people start with personal attacks like they think it's their mission to right a "wrong." Lol.

I've pointed this out, and all I've gotten back is that "Jordan fans started it all back in the day." Well, that may be, and I wasn't around for all that, but what I see now is it mostly coming from the Lebronies.

But yes, I do agree with you that it would be better if everyone just appreciated talent like fans SHOULD do. But even when someone starts a thread that has nothing to do with Jordan or Lebron, someone usually comes out of the woodwork and hijacks it. :confusedshrug:

This site was actually legit back in the day. I would lurk for a while before finally making a profile.

There used to be a TON of conversation about basketball, even amongst the "stans". But everything went downhill here during the Cavs/Warriors saga. The Lebron stans became unbearable and the Bron haters LATCHED onto every player not Lebron - Durant, Curry, Kawhi, etc. It's very similar to politics in America now between Dems and Repubs. Everything is just over the top reactionary nonsense with the extremists slowly poisoning society and getting a louder voice. People use the same "logic" you do by saying "well, I'm just acting like a troll in response to the other trolls", when really everyone should be keeping their integrity and mostly ignoring the trolls.

Really, this place is just a constant battle of weak egos and insecurity. I post a LOT more on the "other" basketball forum where there is actual basketball discussion far more than trolls.

The cesspool that is the current state of ISH is the MODs fault for letting trolls/psychos run wild.

[Full Court]

LeBron was still the best player overall on that team, not AD.

Pure cope. Every other team had time off.

Bosh was never better than LBJ in Miami. Kyrie was never better than LBJ in Cleveland. Wade was never better than him in Miami. AD has never been better than him in LA.

Your analysis is dogshit.

You need brain cells to do analysis. Something you lack.

Any way you slice it:

-86
4/10
2011
Below .500
Chronic loser

[Mr. Woke]

There are multiple posters in this thread who have spammed many times that Lebron is a lottery player out West and hasn't "done anything".

Also you troll/hate on Lebron plenty Full Court (albeit I don't think as much as some of the other posters in this thread).

Why can't we just appreciate great players? How are so many posters here getting their lives ruined over dumb shit? I love MJ, Shaq, Kobe, and Bron. Duncan was boring to me but I don't ever deny his basketball ability. Durant is incredible and a GOAT level scorer. Curry is like an alien with his shooting ability.

I think the only superstar level player that I legit can't watch play is Harden, but I still admit he has amazing basketball talent. How is this so hard for people to do and why can't they rise above the dumb, modern fandom toxicity?

A lot of NBA fans have serious psychological problems and are very jealous of NBA players. Those bitter fans also failed to achieve their hoop dreams and therefore lash out at people who achieved their hoop dreams. Those bitter fans also think that they are smarter than they actually are.

At the end of the day, bitter/jealous/pathetic people love hating on successful people so that they can feel better about themselves and their miserable existence.

[SouBeachTalents]

Stop pretending it's a troll - the historical record shows that Lebron is lottery-caliber for 3 of 4 years out West, and he only made the Finals out West by having a teammate carry him - AD was the "Jordan" in the 2020 Western Conference Playoffs, while Lebron was the "pippen"
What's hilarious is Kobe & Curry got outscored by a teammate for the majority of their titles, and by a greater margin than AD did LeBron (2 whole points), and yet they're both in your top 5 :lol Just shameless hypocrisy and double standards.

[Mr. Woke]

You need brain cells to do analysis. Something you lack.

Any way you slice it:

-86
4/10
2011
Below .500
Chronic loser

Your entire mentality = chronic loser with daddy issues.

[Full Court]

Your entire mentality = chronic loser with daddy issues.

Wokey want a cracker?

[Mr. Woke]

Wokey want a cracker?

Tell your mama to get ready for round 2.

If you behave, I'll give you permission to watch.

[Full Court]

Tell your mama to get ready for round 2.

If you behave, I'll give you permission to watch.

:roll: That's when I KNOW I've really gotten to him when he resorts to grade school comebacks. Lol.

Owned!

[Mr. Woke]

:roll: That's when I KNOW I've really gotten to him when he resorts to grade school comebacks. Lol.

Owned!

You've been resorting to grade school comebacks this entire time lol.

Zero originality.

Go back to school.

[Full Court]

You've been resorting to grade school comebacks this entire time lol.

Zero originality.

Go back to school.

Boom! Owned again. :roll: Keep em comin Wokey Parrot.

[Mr. Woke]

Boom! Owned again. :roll: Keep em comin Wokey Parrot.

Still no originality.

I get it, you were a loser in high school, and you failed to achieve your hoop dreams. That's why you resent LBJ so much.

[Spurs m8]

Nobody said he didn't do anything. He and AD did beat Jimmy Butler and Duncan Robinson while Bam Adebayo was injured.

In exhibition scrimmages with no crowd

[Spurs m8]

Boom! Owned again. :roll: Keep em comin Wokey Parrot.

GO BACK TO SCHOOL, GUY :rant:rant:rant:rant

[Full Court]

GO BACK TO SCHOOL, GUY :rant:rant:rant:rant

:roll:

[Mr. Woke]

In exhibition scrimmages with no crowd

Those were NBA games lol :oldlol:

[Mr. Woke]

GO BACK TO SCHOOL, GUY :rant:rant:rant:rant


FC and you definitely should go back to school.

The education system failed you both.

[Full Court]

FC and you definitely should go back to school.

The education system failed you both.

Your user name tells us all we need to know about your intellectual capacity.












Or lack thereof.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are low IQ retards.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are low IQ retards.

Lol, ok.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are bad people.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are bad people.

:lol Beezleblubber....

[3ba11]

What's hilarious is Kobe & Curry got outscored by a teammate for the majority of their titles, and by a greater margin than AD did LeBron (2 whole points), and yet they're both in your top 5 :lol Just shameless hypocrisy and double standards.


They have other things like knowing how to win (chemistry) and being capable of defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load in playoffs and Finals while winning ring)

These are skillset-related.

Lebron's high scoring is too ball-dominant to beat good teams (can't win with organic chemistry) and therefore needs equal-scoring partners (can't carry scoring load).

Ultimately, Lebron's frontcourt ball-dominance imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (team-hopping) - his skillset literally prevents organic winning.

Unfortunately, he never evolved out of ball-dominant offenses that revolve around him, so he never learned to elevate teammates beyond spot-up roles.. Since he can't elevate teammates, he never learned how to win (organic chemistry) and therefore needed to team-hop (talent-based winning)..
the top tier skillset that can generate good chemistry and brand of ball to win organically.

[FKAri]

Michael Jordan stans are low IQ retards.

Bron fans on the other hand are high IQ retards :cheers:

[Mr. Woke]

Michael Jordan stans are low IQ retards.

Damn right.

They are also the type of people who would commit mass murder and subjugate minorities.

[TheCorporation]

I don't see how a HUGE narcissist* would be particularly emotional over someone else's death.
And what's the point of this thread? It's gonna be the usual suspects with Lebron's GOAT vs he's a bitch.

*I'm speaking hypothetically of course. We all know Lebron's the empathetic GOAT :bowdown:

Had me a little worried until that last sentence :cheers:

[Full Court]

Damn right.

They are also the type of people who would commit mass murder and subjugate minorities.

And he wonders why the Bronies get made fun of... :roll:

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are casuals who think free throw line dunks are highly impressive.

[Mr. Woke]

And he wonders why the Bronies get made fun of... :roll:

Anyone who has an extreme level of hate towards someone who is a good person is a full-blown sociopath who should never be in a position of power.

Sociopaths are the dregs of society.

[SouBeachTalents]

They have other things like knowing how to win (chemistry) and being capable of defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load in playoffs and Finals while winning ring)

These are skillset-related.

Lebron's high scoring is too ball-dominant to beat good teams (can't win with organic chemistry) and therefore needs equal-scoring partners (can't carry scoring load).

Ultimately, Lebron's frontcourt ball-dominance imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (team-hopping) - his skillset literally prevents organic winning.

Unfortunately, he never evolved out of ball-dominant offenses that revolve around him, so he never learned to elevate teammates beyond spot-up roles.. Since he can't elevate teammates, he never learned how to win (organic chemistry) and therefore needed to team-hop (talent-based winning)..
the top tier skillset that can generate good chemistry and brand of ball to win organically.
Curry's one title you reference occurred with the Cavs missing 2 of their 3 best players while not getting a single vote for FMVP. Highly impressive :lol

I can only imagine what you'd say if LeBron had a teammate win FMVP over him off the bench.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are sociopaths.

[HunterSThompson]

https://youtu.be/-vYMLqWbO6U































































https://youtu.be/FkMWsO_-X7Y

[Full Court]

Anyone who has an extreme level of hate towards someone who is a good person is a full-blown sociopath who should never be in a position of power.

Sociopaths are the dregs of society.

Snowflake crybabies are the scourge of society.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are obnoxious.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are obnoxious.

:biggums:

[bison]

Easily Bron's best ring (even though AD should have got FMVP). Even more impressive than the rigged ring he got in 2016.

2020 was the ultimate gauntlet ring. Grieving the loss of kobe, a raging pandemic, political upheaval, and having to play in what is essentially a prison that you weren't allowed to leave, no home court advantage, having to beat stacked Heat, Nuggets and rockets teams. no one thought that the lakers could do it--barkely famously taking blazers in the first round. but it was a team effort and one took one of the GOAT laker squads to do it.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are deceitful people.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are deceitful people.

Beezleblubber has discovered the thesaurus. :lol

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are immature.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are immature.

After calling the "Hitler," immature just doesn't seem that bad.

[Johnny32]

there's a lot of desperate losers on this site.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are big-headed.

[bison]

Michael Jordan stans are well endowed

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are big-headed.

Well, homie, better to be big-headed than tiny-brained.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are well endowed

:roll:

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are smug.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are smug.

:whatever:

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are bigots.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are bigots.

Bruce Springsteen was an overrated musician.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are perfidious rodents.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are perfidious rodents.

How many different kinds of rodents are there?

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are unenlightened.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are unenlightened.

Still lots of adjective you haven't used yet. Don't give up.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are ungrateful.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are ungrateful.

Meh. That one was kinda lame.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are mentally incapacitated.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are mentally incapacitated.

The new Top Gun movie sucked.

[Spurs m8]

Easily Bron's best ring (even though AD should have got FMVP). Even more impressive than the rigged ring he got in 2016.

2020 was the ultimate gauntlet ring. Grieving the loss of kobe, a raging pandemic, political upheaval, and having to play in what is essentially a prison that you weren't allowed to leave, no home court advantage, having to beat stacked Heat, Nuggets and rockets teams. no one thought that the lakers could do it--barkely famously taking blazers in the first round. but it was a team effort and one took one of the GOAT laker squads to do it.

political upheavel lmfao

no home court - you realise that was for both teams, right? he didn't have to play 'away'

grieving Kobe - lol Kobe hated him and tolerated him, at best

stacked Heat? riiiiiiiiiiiight....not even true when healthy, weren't healthy

Love ya Bison, but fair crack of the nuts, brother

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are cunning.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are cunning.

Cunning is a complement. You shouldn't use words that you don't know the meaning of.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are fraudulent.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are fraudulent.

And yet I've proven that the Bronies on here are lying frauds. Lol. Delusional.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are contrived.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are contrived.

Doesn't even make grammatical sense.

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are limited.

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are limited.

:biggums:

[SATAN]

Michael Jordan stans are counterfeit basketball fans.

[Spurs m8]

Jesus christ, Satan, pull yourself together.

Every thread I visit, you're having a hard meltdown

[Gohan]

All while dealing with Kobe's death, the emergence of Covid, and a complete shutdown of the world.

2020 playoffs - 21 games, 28/11/9/1/1 on 56/37/72 splits, 30.2 PER, 64.7 TS%, 10.7 BPM

And yet we have losers on this site who say he hasn't done anything out West lol.


You cant be this retarded. Lebron didnt truly care about kobe. Lebrons ring was the easiest ring ive ever saw won in nba history

[Full Court]

Michael Jordan stans are counterfeit basketball fans.

Bad enough that there are counterfeit cards floating around out there. Now counterfeit fans? :confusedshrug:

Beezleblubber is now officially the most triggered person on ISH. :applause:

[WhiteKyrie]

The new Top Gun movie sucked.

Huh? It’s not out yet?

[Full Court]

Huh? It’s not out yet?

Lol, yeah I know. It was a nonsense reply to Beezleblubber's string of nonsense meltdown posts.

[Mr. Woke]

You cant be this retarded. Lebron didnt truly care about kobe. Lebrons ring was the easiest ring ive ever saw won in nba history

The Lakers won 4-2 that year.

By your logic, the Bulls' title in 1991 was even easier (they won in 5 games) and the titles in 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, and 1998 were just as "easy" because all those years the Bulls won in six games.

[StrongLurk]

TLDR...Lebron has done "something" out West, as a thirty-five year old no less.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

TLDR...Lebron has done "something" out West, as a thirty-five year old no less.

Why do you care though? :lol

One... you're the same poster who thought the bubble was tainted. And rooted against Bron that ENTIRE run lol. Two... Dude is still regarded as an ATG. Consensus top 3-5. So anyone questioning what 'Bron has done' are now part of the minority.

You can't change the way people think. And these bipolar rants don't help your cred.

[StrongLurk]

Why do you care though? :lol

One... you're the same poster who thought the bubble was tainted. And rooted against Bron that ENTIRE run lol. Two... Dude is still regarded as an ATG. Consensus top 3-5. So anyone questioning what 'Bron has done' are now part of the minority.

You can't change the way people think. And these bipolar rants don't help your cred.

I've never rooted against Lebron and two, you are confusing some of my playful troll posts - probably about two percent of my posts - with my legitimate posts.

[Axe]

Announcing that he'll continue kobe's legacy after his untimely demise was pretty cringe tho..

[Axe]

Why do you care though? :lol

One... you're the same poster who thought the bubble was tainted. And rooted against Bron that ENTIRE run lol. Two... Dude is still regarded as an ATG. Consensus top 3-5. So anyone questioning what 'Bron has done' are now part of the minority.

You can't change the way people think. And these bipolar rants don't help your cred.
He may be bipolar at times but unlike the stanning trolls found itb, at least he's not delusional.