History is a set of lies agreed upon - Napoleon (aka Apollyon)

[Nanners]

Have you ever looked at any photos of old San Francisco? Before the city was levelled by the 1906 fire?

Not bad for a city built from scratch in ~50 years... a city built before power tools and mechanized construction equipment... a city built when the glass/metal/stone/labor all had to be imported by sail ship or horse... a city built by merchants, miners, and homesteaders.

https://i.ibb.co/cts8SKM/1635224951256.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/1sLLfVY/san-fran-2-1915.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/7y9z9Pc/San-fran-3-1915.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/GkzyCWV/san-fran-1915.jpg

[Nanners]

Have you ever looked at photos of old Chicago?

https://i.ibb.co/FsTZc7m/Chicago-3-1893.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/wgdpjyB/1625352402374.jpg

Or old St Louis?

https://i.ibb.co/bXv7tVm/st-louis-1904.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/b7jhtDm/st-louis-2-1904.jpg

[Nanners]

How about Old Seattle?

https://i.ibb.co/Gnmx2By/seattle.jpg

Or old Buffalo NY?

https://i.ibb.co/S5XbyH4/1642700700407.jpg

Or old Omaha Nebraska?

https://i.ibb.co/4dzH0zb/omaha-1898.jpg

Or old Rio de Janiero?

https://i.ibb.co/5nkN76c/brazil-1908.jpg

[Doomsday Dallas]

Have you ever looked at any photos of old San Francisco? Before the city was levelled by the 1906 fire?

Not bad for a city built from scratch in ~50 years... a city built before power tools and mechanized construction equipment... a city built when the glass/metal/stone/labor all had to be imported by sail ship or horse... a city built by merchants, miners, and homesteaders.



I've actually seen a few theories on this subject... mainly because it relates to Masonry.

A lot of areas in America had architecture that was basically impossible to build back in those days.... but somehow they got it done.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Exposition


The Centennial International Exhibition of 1876, the first official World's Fair to be held in the United States, was held in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, from May 10 to November 10, 1876, to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence in Philadelphia. Officially named the International Exhibition of Arts, Manufactures, and Products of the Soil and Mine, it was held in Fairmount Park along the Schuylkill River on fairgrounds designed by Herman J. Schwarzmann. Nearly 10 million visitors attended the exposition, and 37 countries participated in it.

https://collaborativehistory.gse.upenn.edu/sites/default/files/styles/large_with_focal_point/public/Horticultural%20Hall%20best%20image%20FLOP.jpg

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/main-building-centennial-exposition-1876-philadelphia-a-gurmankin.jpg


Herman J. Schwarzmann, an engineer for the Fairmount Park Commission, was appointed the main designer of the exposition. In 1869 Schwarzmann had begun working for the Fairmount Park Commission, which administered the site of the 1876 Centennial Exposition. It is one of the great urban parks of America, its importance in landscape history surpassed only by Central Park. Schwarzmann was the chief architect for the Centennial Exposition, designing Memorial Hall, Horticultural Hall, other small buildings, and the landscaping around them.

More than 200 buildings were constructed within the Exposition's grounds, which were surrounded by a fence nearly three miles long. There were five main buildings in the exposition. They were the Main Exhibition Building, Memorial Hall, Machinery Hall, Agricultural Hall, and Horticultural Hall. Apart from these buildings, there were separate buildings for state, federal, foreign, corporate, and public comfort buildings. This strategy of numerous buildings in one exposition set it apart from the previous fairs around the world that had relied exclusively on having one or a few large buildings.

The Centennial Commission sponsored a design competition for the principal buildings, conducted in two rounds; winners of the first round had to have details such as construction cost and time prepared for the runoff on September 20, 1873. After the ten design winners were chosen, it was determined that none of them allowed enough time for construction and limited finances.[citation needed]

The architecture of the exposition mainly consisted of two types of building, traditional masonry monuments and buildings with a structural framework of iron and steel.

[ThRRR3tardSatan]

https://i.ibb.co/Gnmx2By/seattle.jpg

How was the Seattle photo taken so high?


Made me think of Vatican when I first saw it.


https://s3.envato.com/files/240151307/preview.jpg

[Nanners]

I've actually seen a few theories on this subject... mainly because it relates to Masonry.

A lot of areas in America had architecture that was basically impossible to build back in those days.... but somehow they got it done.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Exposition





Maybe they called it "free" masonry for a reason?

It wasnt just america that had unexplainable architecture back in the day, you can find it all over Europe and Asia too. Look at the Crystal Palace for example - built in London in 1850, deconstructed and rebuilt in a different part of London in 1854, and all of this before there were any kind of power tools or mechanized equipment, and it was before industrial glass manufacturing existed.

https://i.ibb.co/r6kFQ1N/1624774121371.jpg


How was the Seattle photo taken so high?

Probably via blimp or balloon.

heres a photo of old seattle from the ground

https://i.ibb.co/nkJtQwQ/seattle-3-1900.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

Today's architecture is far superior to be honest. Lettuce be real.


https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2021/10/28/gettyimages-1235605285-4eb7d165dafaf9eda854f21a9ce710fdcc89814d.jpg

https://gray-wcsc-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/5_faxe9s2EOsQ7M_A0vLph8N23w=/1200x1200/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/YMJIGRGETFHANJ5VEPN4UNBJBY.jpg

[Nanners]

Today's architecture is far superior to be honest. Lettuce be real.


no doubt

https://i.ibb.co/7WhxGpx/1624852107357.png

https://i.ibb.co/sqb4DsX/1624852194951.png

https://i.ibb.co/t3tMx09/1624858159804.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/hySNT8j/1639686069051.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

Is the old Buffalo one still up?? I'd like to see that up close.

[Nanners]

Is the old Buffalo one still up?? I'd like to see that up close.

Almost all of these structures have been torn down. Most of the remaining ones today are either state capitols or courthouses, but there are a few other noteable survivors like -

Palace of fine arts in SF

https://i.ibb.co/sWLvxgt/5855df3c-b990-4888-8baf-94eeb2f7ea48.jpg

Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago

https://i.ibb.co/jvFwS8Q/Museums-of-Science-and-Industry-2018-MSI-campus.webp


These old world buildings are still pretty common in Europe

https://i.ibb.co/wQkRhrd/1643895649668.jpg

[fsvr54]

Pre 1920s architecture looks so much better to me. It was art and had soul.

[HunterSThompson]

now even thinking of having a stone counter top is some wild crazy rich people shit


nope. gotta build your entire home out of sticks and plastic. that will last way longer and withstand any kind of natural disaster

[Nanners]

Pre 1920s architecture looks so much better to me. It was art and had soul.

I think most people would agree with you.

Modern architectural "masterpieces" like Sidney Opera house or the Guggenheim are so cold and soulless compared to what our unsophisticated ancestors (supposedly) built with their bare hands 100+ years ago.

Simply trying to reproduce the ornamentation we see in these photos today would require an army of artisan craftsmen... but somehow breathtaking buildings in this distinct "greco-roman" style existed all over the planet 100+ years ago

[fsvr54]

I just think all those building came up with the surge of big business and capitalism world wide, industrialization. You're underestimating what humans are capable of. Steam engine was a thing in the 1860s

[Nanners]

Riddle me this - The Erie Canal is 360 miles long and it has 34 locks, with a total elevation change of 565 feet. The Canal was built from 1817 to 1825, which means that the canal was completed at a rate of 1 mile every 8 days (including the 34 locks). This canal was built well before we had access to any kind of mechanical tools, it was well before anything resembling modern surveying methods or satellite photography, and the path of the canal cut through mostly untouched virgin forest. The people responsible for planning and building this canal were complete novices, there were no civil engineers in america at this time.

With modern equipment, engineering, and surveying, would it be possible to build a 360mi long canal through virgin forest at a rate of 1 mile per 8 days?

[tpols]

I'm curious what are the conspiracy implications of this? Society was much more organized and disciplined in the past?

[warriorfan]

This is pretty interesting. There are obviously many factors in play but perhaps the largest one is almost all of this was done before the introduction of the Federal Reserve and later the abandonment of the gold standard. This compounded with far less regulations and bureaucracy made it so jobs like these could actually be completed in an efficient and timely matter, while still not sacrificing quality.

There were probably more skilled and hard working laborers too. People more dedicated to their craft without all the distractions we have in today’s age. I bet you ADD wasn’t really a thing back then. Kids weren’t bombarded by constant overstimulation through TV, video games, computers and devices. If there was a kid who had a little too much energy they would probably get into projects with a family member and start developing skills rather than getting pumped full of drugs.

Kids and even adults weren’t babied like they are now. Back then it was a more “if you had a problem, figure it the **** out” rather than just cry and stomp your feet in a tantrum until you get your way. Different attitudes and work ethics. Less leeching from banking systems, government, and big corporations. It all adds up and you can see the results when you compare some of these works to what we are doing today.

[tpols]

This is pretty interesting. There are obviously many factors in play but perhaps the largest one is almost all of this was done before the introduction of the Federal Reserve and later the abandonment of the gold standard. This compounded with far less regulations and bureaucracy made it so jobs like these could actually be completed in an efficient and timely matter, while still not sacrificing quality.

There were probably more skilled and hard working laborers too. People more dedicated to their craft without all the distractions we have in today’s age. I bet you ADD wasn’t really a thing back then. Kids weren’t bombarded by constant overstimulation through TV, video games, computers and devices. If there was a kid who had a little too much energy they would probably get into projects with a family member and start developing skills rather than getting pumped full of drugs.

Kids and even adults weren’t babied like they are now. Back then it was a more “if you had a problem, figure it the **** out” rather than just cry and stomp your feet in a tantrum until you get your way. Different attitudes and work ethics. Less leeching from banking systems, government, and big corporations. It all adds up and you can see the results when you compare some of these works to what we are doing today.

That's what I was thinking. Its so easy to be a bum in today's society. Back then when those guys went to work they went to work. No constant phone checking and distractions.

[FKAri]

I'm curious what are the conspiracy implications of this? Society was much more organized and disciplined in the past?

No conspiracies. It's just the impact of post-modernism on architecture.

[Patrick Chewing]

We built things in excess back then because we could. We will probably never build such things ever again.

Fast forward to today and you have cheap labor hiring practices, the pussification of America, and the disdain of Capitalism by those in positions of influence.

[Nanners]

This is pretty interesting. There are obviously many factors in play but perhaps the largest one is almost all of this was done before the introduction of the Federal Reserve and later the abandonment of the gold standard. This compounded with far less regulations and bureaucracy made it so jobs like these could actually be completed in an efficient and timely matter, while still not sacrificing quality.

How efficient and timely was it to make incredibly intricate and ornate buildings in a city like San Francisco which was newly settled by uneducated fortune seekers?

Who exactly were the builders of these structures? Did an army of builders go from Europe to San Francisco with enormous piles of glass, metal, and stone? We have films/books about the wild west, we have films/books about gold miners, we have films/books about life in early san fran... why arent there any films/books about the people who built these amazing structures?




There were probably more skilled and hard working laborers too. People more dedicated to their craft without all the distractions we have in today’s age. I bet you ADD wasn’t really a thing back then. Kids weren’t bombarded by constant overstimulation through TV, video games, computers and devices. If there was a kid who had a little too much energy they would probably get into projects with a family member and start developing skills rather than getting pumped full of drugs.

So we dont build structures like this anymore because people were more skilled back then? or because kids have ADD? Shouldnt modern advances in technology make up for any extra skill that our ancestors possessed in the horse and wagon days?


Kids and even adults weren’t babied like they are now. Back then it was a more “if you had a problem, figure it the **** out” rather than just cry and stomp your feet in a tantrum until you get your way. Different attitudes and work ethics. Less leeching from banking systems, government, and big corporations. It all adds up and you can see the results when you compare some of these works to what we are doing today.

I agree about less leeching from banks/govt/corps, but I still dont think that explains these structures. Lets say that modern americans no longer had to pay any bills and were allowed to pursue artistic endevours exclusively, how long would it for modern people to design/build any of these amazing structures?

[Nanners]

That's what I was thinking. Its so easy to be a bum in today's society. Back then when those guys went to work they went to work. No constant phone checking and distractions.

Back in the 1960s men went to work and didnt have phone distractions, but despite building some great things they didnt build anything like the structures of the old world

[fsvr54]

That's what I was thinking. Its so easy to be a bum in today's society. Back then when those guys went to work they went to work. No constant phone checking and distractions.

Not just all that, but building projects just have MUCH more workers on them, there wasn't a huge middle class yet so a bunch of dudes got jobs like this to get by.

[Nanners]

I'm curious what are the conspiracy implications of this? Society was much more organized and disciplined in the past?

History is a lie (we already knew this, but maybe its a bigger lie than most people thought), and the great works of old have been intentionally torn down and replaced with soulless modern bullshit to separate us from out past.

Perhaps the powers that be want people to forget what they're capable of, perhaps they want people to feel isolated and demoralized, perhaps they're trying to hide some deeper truth about humans/nature/reality that poses a threat to their system of control... I dunno why the truth is being covered up, I just know that there is no question that the world is covered in structures do not fit their given historical narrative

[FKAri]

Back in the 1960s men went to work and didnt have phone distractions, but despite building some great things they didnt build anything like the structures of the old world

Because in the old world, projects were commissioned by affluent monarchs. From classical music to architecture, they are responsible for most of the great art of the old world(it was also better preserved than pop art).

Though this doesn't factor into 19th century America. For the difference from then to now, I blame tighter, profit-driven budgets and post-modernism.

[Nanners]

Because in the old world, projects were commissioned by affluent monarchs. From classical music to architecture, they are responsible for most of the great art of the old world(it was also better preserved than pop art).

Though this doesn't factor into 19th century America. For the difference from then to now, I blame tighter, profit-driven budgets and post-modernism.

Which affluent monarchs comissioned the buildings in San Francisco? Who exactly commissioned the amazing works of art in more obscure cities like Buffalo and Omaha?

Why were any "affluent monarchs" building incredible works of art in the US in the late 1800s, 100 years after this country won independence?

Who precisely were the master stone masons who built these great structures and why isnt there any record of them in pop culture? how did they transport enough glass to SF to fill every window in the city? why arent there any significant records of merchants carrying ships full of glass plates to SF?

[warriorfan]

How efficient and timely was it to make incredibly intricate and ornate buildings in a city like San Francisco which was newly settled by uneducated fortune seekers?

Who exactly were the builders of these structures? Did an army of builders go from Europe to San Francisco with enormous piles of glass, metal, and stone? We have films/books about the wild west, we have films/books about gold miners, we have films/books about life in early san fran... why arent there any films/books about the people who built these amazing structures?





So we dont build structures like this anymore because people were more skilled back then? or because kids have ADD? Shouldnt modern advances in technology make up for any extra skill that our ancestors possessed in the horse and wagon days?



I agree about less leeching from banks/govt/corps, but I still dont think that explains these structures. Lets say that modern americans no longer had to pay any bills and were allowed to pursue artistic endevours exclusively, how long would it for modern people to design/build any of these amazing structures?

My short answer is I think people were legitimately smarter and more hard working back then. Things may have seemed impossible but they figured it out. And the banks/gov/corporations have gotten more adept at skimming off everything which is huge of course.

As for them trying to create a soulless landscape to suppress the people? It’s definitely possible.

[Nanners]

My short answer is I think people were legitimately smarter and more hard working back then. Things may have seemed impossible but they figured it out. And the banks/gov/corporations have gotten more adept at skimming off everything which is huge of course.

As for them trying to create a soulless landscape to suppress the people? It’s definitely possible.

I wont dispute that people were smarter and more hard working back then, in fact I would argue that people may have been smarter and harder working 12k+ years ago when the pyramids and sphinx were being built...but how much smarter and harder working would it take to build these great works of art that we are seemingly incapable of replicating today?

https://i.ibb.co/7tWycNb/97943bc4-26d3-4e27-b88b-9e25ceb68aad.jpg

This is the interior of old penn station in NYC. Look at the people compared to the architecture. How many smart/driven people would it take to build this place in a time before electric tools and mechanical construction equipment?

Look at the detail on the ceiling, each one of those octagons is the size of a human if not larger. How many builders would it take to build the columns and arches in this amazing structure? How many craftsmen would it take to do all of the intricate art on and around the ceiling? Who exactly were the master craftsmen who built this magnificient work of art?

[warriorfan]

I wont dispute that people were smarter and more hard working back then, in fact I would argue that people may have been smarter and harder working 12k+ years ago when the pyramids and sphinx were being built...but how much smarter and harder working would it take to build these great works of art that we are seemingly incapable of replicating today?

https://i.ibb.co/7tWycNb/97943bc4-26d3-4e27-b88b-9e25ceb68aad.jpg

This is the interior of old penn station in NYC. Look at the people compared to the architecture. How many smart/driven people would it take to build this place in a time before electric tools and mechanical construction equipment?

Look at the detail on the ceiling, each one of those octagons is the size of a human if not larger. How many builders would it take to build the columns and arches in this amazing structure? How many craftsmen would it take to do all of the intricate art on and around the ceiling? Who exactly were the master craftsmen who built this magnificient work of art?

I agree it’s amazing and stretches the imagination when thinking about it.

https://largest.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Cathedral-of-Our-Lady.jpg

That was built over 500 years ago. The tower is 400 feet high. It seems impossible but with enough time and money it can be done.

[FKAri]

Which affluent monarchs comissioned the buildings in San Francisco? Who exactly commissioned the amazing works of art in more obscure cities like Buffalo and Omaha?

Why were any "affluent monarchs" building incredible works of art in the US in the late 1800s, 100 years after this country won independence?
Maybe I worded it poorly but the 2nd part of my post is about this.




Who precisely were the master stone masons who built these great structures and why isnt there any record of them in pop culture? how did they transport enough glass to SF to fill every window in the city? why arent there any significant records of merchants carrying ships full of glass plates to SF?

Well, they had a great fire after all. SF just doesn't have great records from that time period(neither does LA from what I remember-must be a California thing). Chicago on the other hand has very good records despite having their own great fire.

[FultzNationRISE]

I guess it’s tricky in a diverse democracy to display art, because it inherently carries some kind of message. A lot of those images you posted contain statues and sculptures that look incredible, but also depict conquerors, emperors, angels, etc.

In a democracy where every offended bozo has a vote... it’s simply not a wise political play. Add in the increasing ubiquity of media scrutinization and criticism over time, and making grand monuments as a politician is just a recipe for becoming a target.

Also it’s worth pointing out the consideration of space. Real estate was cheaper earlier on, and it was much more feasible to produce lavish and ornate buildings in downtown areas. Nowadays, not so much. Cars have also become much more compact for instance.

Those are some fantastic pictures tho. Always enjoy looking at that stuff.

[Nanners]

I agree it’s amazing and stretches the imagination when thinking about it.

https://largest.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Cathedral-of-Our-Lady.jpg

That was built over 500 years ago. The tower is 400 feet high. It seems impossible but with enough time and money it can be done.

:cheers: great example

[fsvr54]

There were many more stone masons back then, and basically every project was basically your life.

Architecture schools started teaching modern methods too, instead of older ones.

[Nanners]

There were many more stone masons back then.

Architecture school started teaching modern methods too, instead of older ones.

How did they transport all this stone? Where did they get all the glass and how did they transport it? Why did ancient peoples put enormous amounts of time/effort/resources into creating spectacular structures while modern humans seem to think this sort of building is a waste of time?

Can you actually prove there were more stone masons back then or are you just guessing (not trying to judge, just asking)

[fsvr54]

How did they transport all this stone? Where did they get all the glass and how did they transport it? Why did ancient peoples put enormous amounts of time/effort/resources into creating spectacular structures while modern humans seem to think this sort of building is a waste of time?

Can you actually prove there were more stone masons back then or are you just guessing (not trying to judge, just asking)

I'm guessing, but let's be real my guy... the modern world doesn't need stone masons with newer construction methods.

[Nanners]

The modern world could def use a lot more masons if amazing structures like this are the result

Anyway look at the size of the people in the above photos, this architecture was gargantuan, it would take huge numbers of masons, as well as architects, artists, engineers, teamsters, etc... in order to build a single one of these structures.

The SF migration did not consist of master builders and designers going west to build a european city, it was poor miners and homesteaders seeking an easy fortune. Who the hell built all this stuff? Where did they get the materials for it? Who built the incredibly advanced SF sewer system that seemingly sprang into existance out of nowhere? (a system that is still used today to process the citys sewage as well as hosting 2 different lines of light rail - Muni and Bart)

[AlternativeAcc.]

Where did you find those photos?

I believe they are photo shopped.

[Norcaliblunt]

I do like this mud flood / the history timeline isn’t really what they say it is theory. Definitely something fishy going on.

Each era’s ruling class always flexes and shows off their science and engineering muscles. From the pyramid’s all the way to CERN. We just went from building megalithic structures to cars, airplanes, and, satellites. The poor went into factories. Modern oligarchs don’t give a shit about infrastructure. They’re manufacturing vaccines.

Timeline is ****ed though.

[warriorfan]

The modern world could def use a lot more masons if amazing structures like this are the result

Anyway look at the size of the people in the above photos, this architecture was gargantuan, it would take huge numbers of masons, as well as architects, artists, engineers, teamsters, etc... in order to build a single one of these structures.

The SF migration did not consist of master builders and designers going west to build a european city, it was poor miners and homesteaders seeking an easy fortune. Who the hell built all this stuff? Where did they get the materials for it? Who built the incredibly advanced SF sewer system that seemingly sprang into existance out of nowhere? (a system that is still used today to process the citys sewage as well as hosting 2 different lines of light rail - Muni and Bart)

The people who made the most money out of the gold rush were the people who sold picks and shovels to the Niners. They recognized the gold rush and what could be exploited from it, from not the actual gold but from the people who believed gold was there. Exploiting the dreamers was more profitable than the actual material reality. The game of prospecting on how to exploit the miners ended up being more lucrative than the prospects of actually finding gold. The San Francisco Bay is a great natural harbor and was quickly connected via railroad. That plus the influx of entrepreneurs trying to strike it rich in gold made it an attractive investment in terms of buying and developing real estate.

[FultzNationRISE]

Where did you find those photos?

I believe they are photo shopped.


I have to say, I was somewhat surprised at the Buffalo pic. Granted I grew up in the suburbs but I didnt recall ever seeing this anywhere




Or old Buffalo NY?

https://i.ibb.co/S5XbyH4/1642700700407.jpg



Now that I'm googling for it with generic terms like "buffalo, architecture, statue" it's not coming up anywhere. You'd think if this really existed there at some point it would be a readily available pic.

Perhaps it's the present that is the more easily distorted truth :lol

[warriorfan]

I have to say, I was somewhat surprised at the Buffalo pic. Granted I grew up in the suburbs but I didnt recall ever seeing this anywhere



Now that I'm googling for it with generic terms like "buffalo, architecture, statue" it's not coming up anywhere. You'd think if this really existed there at some point it would be a readily available pic.

Perhaps it's the present that is more easily mistaken for the truth :lol

Google World Fair Buffalo

(Still could be fake stuff circulating though. Maybe I’ll look more into it later)

[FultzNationRISE]

Google World Fair Buffalo

(Still could be fake stuff circulating though. Maybe I’ll look more into it later)

Ah, interesting. Looks like it's called the Triumphal Bridge and existed at the time of the Pan American Exposition. Now that I have a name there are plenty of pics available, including one from a Wall Street Journal article here (https://www.wsj.com/articles/president-shot-at-worlds-fair-1480104488), so it would appear to be a legit thing.

Strangely though there are no modern pics of it that I can find, with modern day residents posing there. So either they're buried way under all the historical photos that come up first, or it really was taken down for some reason, which seems very strange.

So I guess OP has a point. Kind of a weird thing that these massive structures would just be gone/removed.

edit: Found more info (on reddit, take it for what it's worth, altho looks to be from a wiki article)


When the fair ended, the contents of the grounds were sold to the Chicago House Wrecking Company[11] of Chicago for US$92,000 ($2.41 million in 2018 dollars[12]).[13] Demolition of the buildings began in March 1902, and within a year, most of the buildings were demolished. The grounds were then cleared and subdivided to be used for residential streets, homes, and park land. Similar to previous world fairs, most of the buildings were constructed of timber and steel framing with precast staff panels made of a plaster/fiber mix. These buildings were built as a means of rapid construction and temporary ornamentation and not made to last.[14] Prior to its demolition, an effort was made via public committee to purchase and preserve the original Electric Tower from the wrecking company for nearly US$30,000 ($903 thousand in 2018 dollars[12]). However, the necessary funding could not be raised in time.[13]

The site of the exposition was bounded by Elmwood Avenue on the west, Delaware Avenue on the east, what is now Hoyt Lake on the south, and the railway on the north. It is now occupied by a residential neighborhood from Nottingham Terrace to Amherst Street, and businesses on the north side of Amherst Street. A stone and marker on a traffic island dividing Fordham Drive, near the Lincoln Parkway, marks the area where the Temple of Music was located.[15]

[jstern]

I did a Google street view of England, and there seemed to be a lot of old buildings there.

And some times I like to look at this 1924 areal map of NYC. https://maps.nyc.gov/then&now/ You have to click the upper right layers icon and select 1924.

The first time I saw that 1924 "satellite" view I was shocked by how alive and similar to now NYC seemed. And if you're familiar with the area some of the changes are wow. Such as the El Train, whole streets that were moved, and so many buildings that are still standing that would have never crossed the mind that they are over 100 years old.

[iamgine]

I guess the style changed to a more minimalist one.

[fsvr54]

The modern world could def use a lot more masons if amazing structures like this are the result

Anyway look at the size of the people in the above photos, this architecture was gargantuan, it would take huge numbers of masons, as well as architects, artists, engineers, teamsters, etc... in order to build a single one of these structures.

The SF migration did not consist of master builders and designers going west to build a european city, it was poor miners and homesteaders seeking an easy fortune. Who the hell built all this stuff? Where did they get the materials for it? Who built the incredibly advanced SF sewer system that seemingly sprang into existance out of nowhere? (a system that is still used today to process the citys sewage as well as hosting 2 different lines of light rail - Muni and Bart)

Problem is, everything is about the bottom line in today's world. Making buildings like that with master masons would take way longer than capital wants to wait.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Who the hell built all this stuff?

It goes beyond what humans are capable of building.

Were the pyramids built by humans? I believe they were... but what possessed those humans to build the pyramids?

https://pics.me.me/no-records-exist-of-any-contact-between-these-civilizations-how-20826025.png

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a4/fc/8e/a4fc8ea33599f54c443e41e45ab6bb72--strange-history-world-cultures.jpg

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.richardcassaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Blog-Photo-Freemasons-Gothic-Cathdedrals-and-Atlantis.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkknM6gWwAA4z2U.jpg

[Doomsday Dallas]

These MFers have their "third eye" open.


https://ghorbany.com/inspiration/carpets-and-the-kingdom-of-heaven-part-3/fig-1-carpets-of-the-soul.jpg/@@images/337e4c2f-fde8-4443-b640-09f16dc990d4.jpeg

http://tameera.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Pine_Cone_Vatican_City.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeledfJX0AAyZNt.jpg

[fsvr54]

The pyramid argument is kind of a joke to me. The way to explain it is the human mind works the same way whether you're here or there. It can come to similar conclusions on how to build optimally without contact.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/cd/88/e8cd8843aa80e8dfa12fee9f761d3b1e.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/New-York/New-York-V/i-HCDjtmW/1/cacae73b/L/Wisdom%20and%20Knowledge%20Shall%20be%20the%20Stab ility%20of%20Thy%20Times%20GE%20Building-L.jpg

[Nanners]

I love you dooms

https://i.ibb.co/C8ygnLK/1641084512521.jpg


https://youtu.be/ucIMj47hUf4

[Chick Stern]

It goes beyond what humans are capable of building.

Were the pyramids built by humans? I believe they were... but what possessed those humans to build the pyramids?

https://pics.me.me/no-records-exist-of-any-contact-between-these-civilizations-how-20826025.png

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a4/fc/8e/a4fc8ea33599f54c443e41e45ab6bb72--strange-history-world-cultures.jpg
All cultures love titties.
There is no record of any contact between these civilizations.
How then, can we explain these parallel loves of titties?

https://www.cnnphilippines.com/.imaging/mte/demo-cnn-new/960/dam/cnn/2016/8/26/aliens.jpg/jcr:content/aliens.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm curious what are the conspiracy implications of this? Society was much more organized and disciplined in the past?

Of course it was. It was the Hippies that destroyed it.

[Chick Stern]

Of course it was. It was the Hippies that destroyed it.

If not for the Hippies, we would not have thongs.
Therefore Hippies > All

[ArbitraryWater]

https://i.gyazo.com/f4a0fe7f9dc73853ba6ca4ab07764c89.jpg

in Bristol, proudy repacing a "slave trader" statue
But:
https://www.artforum.com/news/new-bristol-statue-of-black-lives-matter-activist-removed-after-24-hours-83594


https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2021/09/21/patina-finish-male-123139182f9210aa2e5dda7f054154ac0ba52bc6-s1100-c50.jpeg

[ArbitraryWater]

https://i.gyazo.com/079db452ea53b45b2075a4e360d6e4f3.jpg


https://media.newyorker.com/photos/63d305daa87c864c86c50b35/master/pass/230206_r41805.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/01/26/20/67012969-0-image-a-27_1674766120421.jpg


who could forget Medusa


https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/10/13/arts/13medusa2/merlin_178477200_92913ceb-ba82-4775-9311-e65a2fc70ca6-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

https://preview.redd.it/q2rv8we18ht51.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&649d8392

[SouBeachTalents]

Of the US cities I've been too, I felt like Chicago still had really nice looking, old school buildings, especially on the water.

And while it's not as majestic as the photos shown in the OP, I liked the look of New Orleans, at least in the French Quarter.