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coastalmarker99
02-06-2022, 12:39 AM
Watching Westbrook play on your team is a disgusting sight


It's an absolute miracle that KD was able to play with Westbrook (and no other All Star on the team) and make 4 Western Conference Finals and 1 Finals in an absolutely stacked Conference.


We are talking Kobe's Lakers, Dynastic Spurs, Big 3 Clippers, 72 win Warriors, peak Dirk Mavs, and Grit and Grind Grizzlies.


Westbrook puts up big stats but isn’t a winning player. He is a terrible shooter, yet takes so many perimeter shots.

He is turnover prone and makes the worst decisions at the wrong time.

He ruins spacing and gets lost constantly on defense when he tries to stat pad his rebounding numbers.

It's absolutely incredible that KD was able to carry those OKC teams so deep in the playoffs with basically zero help.

ut at the sacrifice of good positional defence. Sure he grabs many rebounds but he leaves his man early to do so.

RRR3
02-06-2022, 12:45 AM
Pretending Westbrook didn't use to be a good player is blatant revisionist history. Every impact stat there is will tell you he was really good in his prime. The same stats will tell you he's terrible now. I actually remember him being considered a positive defender before he stopped trying to go after rebounds all the time and the league got super switchy.

ImKobe
02-06-2022, 12:51 AM
Pretending Westbrook didn't use to be a good player is blatant revisionist history. Every impact stat there is will tell you he was really good in his prime. The same stats will tell you he's terrible now. I actually remember him being considered a positive defender before he stopped trying to go after rebounds all the time and the league got super switchy.

He was always a rather inefficient scorer who made terrible decisions in big moments. Yes, he used to be a better athlete and had a more consistent jump shot but he was still sabotaging Playoff games.. He'd do dumb shit like foul after a jump ball when there's 5 seconds on the shot clock and his team is down 3 at the end of a game (Game 4, '12 Finals, seals the win and basically the series for Miami).

coastalmarker99
02-06-2022, 12:52 AM
Pretending Westbrook didn't use to be a good player is blatant revisionist history. Every impact stat there is will tell you he was really good in his prime. The same stats will tell you he's terrible now. I actually remember him being considered a positive defender before he stopped trying to go after rebounds all the time and the league got super switchy.

Magic Johnson Westbrook is the worst point guard in the finals that I have ever seen.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_U5YWgBwYo

SouBeachTalents
02-06-2022, 12:52 AM
Westbrook has always been extremely flawed and possesses literally the worst end of game IQ I've ever seen. But to pretend he's always been THIS bad is ridiculous :lol Westbrook for most of his OKC run was a legit superstar caliber player, and for all the shit he gets, KD was just as responsible for them losing in 2014 & 2016.

Kawhi_Why_Not
02-06-2022, 12:56 AM
Couldn't Westbrook say the same exact thing about Durant though? What would be his argument? His warriors rings hahahahah

SATAN
02-06-2022, 12:56 AM
Watching the end of his career play out is going to be tragic. Feel bad for the guy, he's just such a dumbass.

RRR3
02-06-2022, 12:58 AM
Watching the end of his career play out is going to be tragic. Feel bad for the guy, he's just such a dumbass.
You ARE watching the end of his career play out.

TheGoatest
02-06-2022, 01:06 AM
Pretending Westbrook didn't use to be a good player is blatant revisionist history. Every impact stat there is will tell you he was really good in his prime. The same stats will tell you he's terrible now. I actually remember him being considered a positive defender before he stopped trying to go after rebounds all the time and the league got super switchy.

He was never a high IQ player, but in his younger days, the things he did with his athleticism made him a terrific asset. He was easily good enough to be a #2 guy on a championship team. Especially if you had the near-unanimous 6th man of the year James Harden and All-Defensive 1st teamer/near DPOY Serge Ibaka as the #3 and #4 guys.

These days however, his athleticism is gone and he gets benched for an entire overtime by a coach with no agenda except trying to win a game. The Lakers should take whatever they can get for him. If there was a 60/40 prognosis on John Wall being healthy in a couple of months, I would trade him for John Wall.

Bankaii
02-06-2022, 01:10 AM
Westbrook was a top 10 player from roughly 2012-2016.
Let’s not act like he’s always been trash. His flaws have been exacerbated because he’s lost some athleticism and doesn’t have the IQ or skill to compensate for it (like Lebron for instance).

1987_Lakers
02-06-2022, 01:14 AM
He's always been clowned by the way he plays, but to compare Westbrook now to what he was in say 2014-2016 is unfair. Peak Westbrook was legit the most athletic guard we have ever seen, now that he is starting to lose that, he is getting exposed even more.

John_Connor
02-06-2022, 01:20 AM
if lebron can win a title with westbrook i'l give him credit for his first ever legit ring cause westbrooks ineptitude cancels out any contribution davis gives the team

Micku
02-06-2022, 01:34 AM
Westbrook back then is different from Westbrook now. He was more athletic back then, but still made bone headed plays. He is the most type of "No, no, no, no, yes!" type of player I ever seen.

Nowadays, his FT shooting sucks. Back then, it didn't and he got to the line a lot. He was still inefficient from the field, but he was still able to attack. He would still do stupid plays like shooting a 3pt shot, 5 ft above the 3pt line, with 20 secs left on the shot clock.

And the way KD plays, he fits well with almost any system I think. They let Westbrook handle the ball more. He get his stats by volume. Plus they had they had a bunch of solid defensive players in OKC. And since his athleticism is fading and he is in the big market, you get to see all the bone headed plays more often. He hasn't always been this bad, but he still has the same b-ball IQ.

But we all knew that this was going to be a bad fit.

John8204
02-06-2022, 02:40 AM
Pretending Westbrook didn't use to be a good player is blatant revisionist history. Every impact stat there is will tell you he was really good in his prime. The same stats will tell you he's terrible now. I actually remember him being considered a positive defender before he stopped trying to go after rebounds all the time and the league got super switchy.

I don't think their is any question that he's a "good" player the problem is he's not now nor has he ever been a true MAX MVP Top 75 guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StQ0ormf_Lo

In hindsight if I had to pick between MVP's for Westbrook, Joker, and Giannis's 2nd over Butler, Paul and Leonard who didn't pad stats but elevated teams I would go with the second group.

Manny98
02-06-2022, 08:29 AM
Almost beat a 73 win team with him, GOAT

coastalmarker99
02-06-2022, 08:39 AM
Almost beat a 73 win team with him, GOAT

Those OKC teams with Durant had terrible spacing with three starters who couldn’t shoot. Westbrook, Thabo, and Perkins.

Then Westbrook, Roberson, and Adams.

It’s ridiculous how great KD was being able to play with such awful spacing.

Even Ibaka wasn’t an elite shooter and was a terrible passer and ball handler.

The offence was basically KD isolation for 38 minutes a game facing double teams and a packed paint and yet despite all of that he still nearly to nearly take down a 73 win team :blowdown:



I mean just look at their lineup against the 73 win Warriors



Russ 39.1 MPG

Ibaka 35.8 MPG

Dion 31.3 MPG

Andre Roberson 29.8 MPG

2nd year Steven Adams 28.5 MPG

Randy Foye 12.2 MPG



Then utter bums like Nick Collison, Anthony Morrow, Kyle Singler.

Besides Adams who got way better in later years and obviously Russ/Serge, I think every other player was out of the league within 2-3 seasons.

Dion having the 4th most minutes played in a series against the 73 win Warriors is crazy to me

coastalmarker99
02-06-2022, 08:44 AM
Almost beat a 73 win team with him, GOAT

It blows my mind that people honestly expected KD to beat one of the greatest teams of all time after beating a 67 win team the round prior with Dion Waiters as the teams #3 option. No team in NBA history is winning a championship with Dion Waiters as the #3 option.

Dion Waiters is one of the most inconsistent players I’ve ever seen. He can go 5 games shooting 40% from 3FG and then go an entire month shooting 20% from 3 FG.

You simply can’t depend on him.

And that's exactly what happened in the last 3 games of the series. He shot 11% from 3FG and 16% FG. That is your #3 option.

It was an absolute miracle they pushed the Warriors to 7 games. Much of it was the Warriors choking in the first 4 games and unlucky 3 point shooting.

While in the first 4 games OKC had super lucky 3 point shooting from Russ, Roberson, and Dion as they shot 42% combined from 3-FG.

Of course, this wasn’t sustainable.

In the final 3 games, Russ/Roberson/Dion shot under 25% from 3 FG.

If OKC just had 1 more decent rotation player they win the series.

Just one more guy.

Give OKC Iguodala or Harrison Barnes and they win.

OKC only had 6 guys who could play in the series once Kerr decided to attack the weak defenders by isolating Curry on them (Morrow and Kanter).

While the Warriors enjoyed playing 9 guys having everyone fresh the entire game. While KD/Russ were exhausted by the middle of the 4th.

warriorfan
02-06-2022, 08:54 AM
Even though Westbrook has always had some of these flaws they have been accentuated in the past few years. He used to be a great player despite these flaws because he could be so dominant at times. It is sad to watch how far he has fallen. He used to have a not automatic but pretty reliable top of the key pull up jumper. He would get a lot of elevation on it and be able to pull up instantly and get a clean shot and it gave him a respectable mid range game. That has all gone out the window. He’s lucky if he hits backboard now adays. Someone here earlier said that they think he injured his arm or something. That sounds like it could be true…it’s hard to imagine how he could lose his shot to this extent.

Phoenix
02-06-2022, 09:11 AM
He's in the worst possible situation:

- a decline in physical skills combined with a league that is more shooting/spacing based that ever before

- instead of refining his shooting to make up for said reduction in physical ability, he's actually gotten worse as a shooter( not that he was ever one to begin with, but that *this*bad).

- A contract that can only be moved by trading for 1) another superstar in his salary range, and he's not providing equal value to just about everyone else at that $$$ or 2) packaging several players for the salaries to match but are you gutting your roster for 2022 Westbrook?

Bad, bad situation all-around. He's overpriced, in decline, still thinks he's a superstar, literally plays EXACTLY the same as he did in his prime, never seemed to grasp the finer details of game management, and damn near close to unmovable. 5 years ago he was at least a box office attraction, but last I looked he's not even among the league leaders in jersey sales( a reasonable snapshot of popularity), so he's not even a good fit for a young up and coming team or a 'bad' team that needs a ticket seller.

Phoenix
02-06-2022, 09:13 AM
Even though Westbrook has always had some of these flaws they have been accentuated in the past few years. He used to be a great player despite these flaws because he could be so dominant at times. It is sad to watch how far he has fallen. He used to have a not automatic but pretty reliable top of the key pull up jumper. He would get a lot of elevation on it and be able to pull up instantly and get a clean shot and it gave him a respectable mid range game. That has all gone out the window. He’s lucky if he hits backboard now adays. Someone here earlier said that they think he injured his arm or something. That sounds like it could be true…it’s hard to imagine how he could lose his shot to this extent.

He used to be a consistent 80% FT shooter too. He hasn't hit that in 5 years, in fact he hasn't even hit 70% 3 of the last 5 seasons. His shot is literally broken at this point.

warriorfan
02-06-2022, 09:18 AM
He's in the worst possible situation:

- a decline in physical skills combined with a league that is more shooting/spacing based that ever before

- instead of refining his shooting to make up for said reduction in physical ability, he's actually gotten worse as a shooter( not that he was ever one to begin with, but that *this*bad).

- A contract that can only be moved by trading for 1) another superstar in his salary range, and he's not providing equal value to just about everyone else at that $$$ or 2) packaging several players for the salaries to match but are you gutting your roster for 2022 Westbrook?

Bad, bad situation all-around. He's overpriced, in decline, still thinks he's a superstar, literally plays EXACTLY the same as he did in his prime, never seemed to grasp the finer details of game management, and damn near close to unmovable. 5 years ago he was at least a box office attraction, but last I looked he's not even among the league leaders in jersey sales( a reasonable snapshot of popularity), so he's not even a good fit for a young up and coming team or a 'bad' team that you'd tune in for just to watch him.

I never really thought about that but that is pretty funny. Westbrook is literally the last player I would want around my young team. :lol

TheGoatest
02-06-2022, 09:36 AM
Almost beat a 73 win team with him, GOAT

2016 Western Conference Finals Game Scores:

1. 23.0 - Russell Westbrook
2. 20.9 - Stephen Curry
3. 20.1 - Kevin Durant
4. 14.4 - Klay Thompson
5. 10.4 - Serge Ibaka

jayfan
02-06-2022, 09:46 AM
Westbrook was a top 10 player from roughly 2012-2016.
Let’s not act like he’s always been trash. His flaws have been exacerbated because he’s lost some athleticism and doesn’t have the IQ or skill to compensate for it (like Lebron for instance).

He's always been trash as a team player. Belonged on the And 1 tour.

Manny98
02-06-2022, 10:15 AM
2016 Western Conference Finals Game Scores:

1. 23.0 - Russell Westbrook
2. 20.9 - Stephen Curry
3. 20.1 - Kevin Durant
4. 14.4 - Klay Thompson
5. 10.4 - Serge Ibaka

And Kevin Durant has the highest game score ever in the finals, what's your point

Manny98
02-06-2022, 10:19 AM
It blows my mind that people honestly expected KD to beat one of the greatest teams of all time after beating a 67 win team the round prior with Dion Waiters as the teams #3 option. No team in NBA history is winning a championship with Dion Waiters as the #3 option.

Dion Waiters is one of the most inconsistent players I’ve ever seen. He can go 5 games shooting 40% from 3FG and then go an entire month shooting 20% from 3 FG.

You simply can’t depend on him.

And that's exactly what happened in the last 3 games of the series. He shot 11% from 3FG and 16% FG. That is your #3 option.

It was an absolute miracle they pushed the Warriors to 7 games. Much of it was the Warriors choking in the first 4 games and unlucky 3 point shooting.

While in the first 4 games OKC had super lucky 3 point shooting from Russ, Roberson, and Dion as they shot 42% combined from 3-FG.

Of course, this wasn’t sustainable.

In the final 3 games, Russ/Roberson/Dion shot under 25% from 3 FG.

If OKC just had 1 more decent rotation player they win the series.

Just one more guy.

Give OKC Iguodala or Harrison Barnes and they win.

OKC only had 6 guys who could play in the series once Kerr decided to attack the weak defenders by isolating Curry on them (Morrow and Kanter).

While the Warriors enjoyed playing 9 guys having everyone fresh the entire game. While KD/Russ were exhausted by the middle of the 4th.
KDs GOAT level scoring skillset allows him to still be able to thrive with minimal spacing and Westbrookball

Otoh LeBron needs shooters and players who play without the ball in their hands to thrive due to his weak shooting ability and drive and kick ball dominant playstyle

Akeem34TheDream
02-06-2022, 10:47 AM
KDs GOAT level scoring skillset allows him to still be able to thrive with minimal spacing and Westbrookball

Otoh LeBron needs shooters and players who play without the ball in their hands to thrive due to his weak shooting ability and drive and kick ball dominant playstyle

:roll:

tpols
02-06-2022, 11:09 AM
He used to be a consistent 80% FT shooter too. He hasn't hit that in 5 years, in fact he hasn't even hit 70% 3 of the last 5 seasons. His shot is literally broken at this point.

How does one lose their ability to shoot FTs because they're older? The guy is in his early 30s. He's still a young man. I saw a dunk Westbrook did a couple weeks ago which may have been his most explosive poster of his career. He's still plenty athletic... Westbrook right now is probably more athletic than 90% of the NBA. He's just being exposed playing without great spacing or shooting. His bball IQ is in the single digits.

StrongLurk
02-06-2022, 11:13 AM
Westbrook was legit a very good player from 2012-2018, every year after has gotten worse.

PeroAntic
02-06-2022, 11:32 AM
This is prime Westbrook:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8erK7T_LIQ


Down 20 points. Hes a loser, a disgrace and a fraud. Always has been.

tpols
02-06-2022, 11:48 AM
Westbrook was legit a very good player from 2012-2018, every year after has gotten worse.

He had his moments but ultimately his boneheaded style of play is detrimental. Look at how Durant has played with the Nets and warriors. If the Thunder wouldve kept Harden in the mid 2010s they would have won a ring instead. GM ****ed that one up.

ImKobe
02-06-2022, 12:04 PM
2016 Western Conference Finals Game Scores:

1. 23.0 - Russell Westbrook
2. 20.9 - Stephen Curry
3. 20.1 - Kevin Durant
4. 14.4 - Klay Thompson
5. 10.4 - Serge Ibaka

The Game Score stat doesn't show how Westbrook cost them Game 6.. KD was bad in that game too but Russ turned the ball over 3x in the last 2 minutes.

hold this L
02-06-2022, 12:48 PM
Almost beat a 73 win team with him, GOAT

Probably should not have shot 11/31 at home in a game 6, and he would have done it. :lol

SouBeachTalents
02-06-2022, 12:50 PM
This thread is proof of exactly what I was talking about. Westbrook gets all the blame while KD gets a pass when he played no better than Westbrook did.

2014 WCF
WB: 27/6/7/3 on 54%TS
KD: 26/8/3 on 56%TS with more turnovers than assists

2016 WCF
WB: 27/7/11/4 on 51%TS
KD: 30/8/3/2/2 on 54%TS with more turnovers than assists

Even in the critical games, KD was terrible down the stretch

Game 6 2014 WCF: Commits an embarrassingly bad turnover with a chance to take the lead in the final 20 seconds, then goes scoreless in OT.

Game 6 2016 WCF: Say what you want about Westbrook, he and the Thunder put KD in perfect position to beat a 73 win team and go to the Finals, and he absolutely shat the bed. 10/31 for the game, including an atrocious 1/7 in the 4th.

Westbrook definitely deserves blame too, but KD is honestly just as culpable as he is.

hold this L
02-06-2022, 12:52 PM
This thread is proof of exactly what I was talking about. Westbrook gets all the blame while KD gets a pass when he played no better than Westbrook did.

2014 WCF
WB: 27/6/7/3 on 54%TS
KD: 26/8/3 on 56%TS with more turnovers than assists

2016 WCF
WB: 27/7/11/4 on 51%TS
KD: 30/8/3/2/2 on 54%TS with more turnovers than assists

Even in the critical games, KD was terrible down the stretch

Game 6 2014 WCF: Critical turnover with a chance to take the lead in the final 20 seconds, then goes scoreless in OT.

Game 6 2016 WCF: Say what you want about Westbrook, he and the Thunder put KD in perfect position to beat a 73 win team and go to the Finals, and he absolutely shat the bed. 10/31 for the game, including an atrocious 1/7 in the 4th.

Westbrook definitely deserves blame too, but KD is honestly just as culpable as he is.

KD and Kawhi are the only cupcake superstars that get a pass whenever they lose. It's always somebody else's fault. It's not a surprise their idiot fanbase follows the trends.

97 bulls
02-06-2022, 01:30 PM
This is prime Westbrook:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8erK7T_LIQ


Down 20 points. Hes a loser, a disgrace and a fraud. Always has been.

This is absolutely pathetic. And Westbrook has always been this type of player. Or it seems to me ever since he began setting out to get triple doubles. This notion that Westbrook was a better player is false. It's only magnified because he plays in LA with LeBron.

iamgine
02-06-2022, 02:02 PM
Westbrook's game has always been ugly but he was quite effective a few years back.

Spurs m8
02-06-2022, 02:33 PM
Thread title reads like KD played with LeBarry for 7 years

RRR3
02-06-2022, 03:26 PM
KD and Kawhi are the only cupcake superstars that get a pass whenever they lose. It's always somebody else's fault. It's not a surprise their idiot fanbase follows the trends.
Kawhi in particular. LeBron has never heard the end of 2011 and Curry has never heard the end of 2016, but Kawhi pooping his pants in 2020 is no big deal I guess.

3ba11
02-06-2022, 03:33 PM
Only Lebron and Beal have done badly with Westbrook - everyone else like Paul George, Harden or Durant had good teams

SouBeachTalents
02-06-2022, 03:41 PM
Only Lebron and Beal have done badly with Westbrook - everyone else like Paul George, Harden or Durant had good teams
Teams that win less than 50 games are considered good now? Well, tbf that would've been Jordan's best result without Pippen, so I can see why you'd think that.

And what a coincidence that the last 2 years Westbrook's teams have struggled the most with him. It's almost like he's getting older and declining with each passing year.

3ba11
02-06-2022, 03:49 PM
Teams that win less than 50 games are considered good now? Well, tbf that would've been Jordan's best result without Pippen, so I can see why you'd think that.

And what a coincidence that the last 2 years Westbrook's teams have struggled the most with him. It's almost like he's getting older and declining with each passing year.


The Lakers can only dream of winning 49 games with AD and Westbrook like Paul George did with just Westbrick

You guys simply don't realize that Lebron doesn't yield good teams - you're fooled by his Iverson/Dwight/Kidd-like run in 07' and the 2 years of his 19 year career where Mo added 21 wins and taught us that Lebron needs shooters...

Otherwise, his entire career is underachieving the expectation by failing to win the East with homecourt in 09/10, and then turning preseason favorites into Finals underdog or loser for 6 straight years (11-16'), and then being lottery out West without AD being the "Jordan" statistical leader

So you've fallen for the fraud and bought into the idea that forming super-teams ISN'T an advantage, and therefore respect Lebron.. But it was a con then (at the time of the "decision") and it's a con now . The biggest con men hide in plain view

Akeem34TheDream
02-06-2022, 03:56 PM
Kawhi in particular. LeBron has never heard the end of 2011 and Curry has never heard the end of 2016, but Kawhi pooping his pants in 2020 is no big deal I guess.

It has 2 reasons. First one is Kawhi isn't nearly popular as them so even when he won FMVP it wasn't that big of a deal. Second reason is Kawhi didn't have that bad of a series compared to other two. His game 7 was terrible but it was fine other than that game. Overall much better than 2011 Lebron and still better than 2016 Curry.

SouBeachTalents
02-06-2022, 04:01 PM
The Lakers can only dream of winning 49 games with AD and Westbrook like Paul George did with just Westbrick

You guys simply don't realize that Lebron doesn't yield good teams - you're fooled by his Iverson/Dwight/Kidd-like run in 07' and the 2 years of his 19 year career where Mo added 21 wins and taught us that Lebron needs shooters...

Otherwise, his entire career is underachieving the expectation by failing to win the East with homecourt in 09/10, and then turning preseason favorites into Finals underdog or loser for 6 straight years (11-16'), and then being lottery out West without AD being the "Jordan" statistical leader

So you've fallen for the fraud and bought into the idea that forming super-teams ISN'T an advantage, and therefore respect Lebron.. But it was a con then (at the time of the "decision") and it's a con now . The biggest con men hide in plain view
https://64.media.tumblr.com/a23a0d09a3fbb287f1c0271d67e5a729/tumblr_o183eg7Okh1tjydheo3_500.gifv

4 championships
3 60 win seasons, 2 of them 65+, a 4th if not for covid in 2020
A 27 game win streak

All disprove that take

Phoenix
02-06-2022, 04:44 PM
How does one lose their ability to shoot FTs because they're older? The guy is in his early 30s. He's still a young man. I saw a dunk Westbrook did a couple weeks ago which may have been his most explosive poster of his career. He's still plenty athletic... Westbrook right now is probably more athletic than 90% of the NBA. He's just being exposed playing without great spacing or shooting. His bball IQ is in the single digits.

Where does it say anywhere in that post that he's a worse FT shooter because of age? I brought up age in a different post( not even the one you quoted) regarding his declining athleticism, not his free throw shooting. What I did say regarding his FT%, is 5 years ago (and basically for the first decade of his career), he was an 80+ % free throw shooter. That's just a fact. He's now a sub 70% FT shooter. That's also a fact. Then I said it seems like his shot is broken, and left it there. Didn't say his broken shot was because of age, or athleticism with respects to this particular aspect of his game falling off. He's just a worse free throw shooter now than he was years ago, inexplicably.

As far as the rest of his game falling off, the things you brought up I already did in a prior post. Yes, the NBA shifting to more of a shooting/spacing league has affected him because he was never a shooter, and whatever shot he did have 5 years ago( he was respectable at pulling up in the 15 foot range at one point) has also declined. And yes his IQ and feel for the game is low, something I also brought up in a post earlier. There's no point of contention there and you seem to have flown past the post where I basically said all of that.

If it's that poster on Gobert you're talking about, yes every player at that level of athleticism is capable of occasionally turning back the clock and doing shit they did when they were 25. The problem with age is those kinds of feats become increasingly sporadic. Russ is probably good for a couple of those a year now, as opposed to routinely doing that shit 6-7 years ago. Lebron is still capable of doing some crazy stuff but is he pulling the shit he was doing in Cleveland and Miami? Hell no.

3ba11
02-06-2022, 07:20 PM
https://64.media.tumblr.com/a23a0d09a3fbb287f1c0271d67e5a729/tumblr_o183eg7Okh1tjydheo3_500.gifv

4 championships
3 60 win seasons, 2 of them 65+, a 4th if not for covid in 2020
A 27 game win streak

All disprove that take


In 2010, Lebron asked the league "who has the highest PER aside from me?"

And he teamed up with that guy - Wade had the #2 PER, BPM, VORP and WS/48 in the league..

That's like Kobe teaming up with Tmac or Magic with Bird, aka UNPRECEDENTED.. so 2/4 including the goat choke and record loss is the worst anyone can do.. He turned the preseason favorite into Finals underdog or loser for 6 straight years - that's the definition of underachievement.. He needed AD the be the stat leader to win out West and now can't win with Westbrook and AD

So his 4 rings are a massive underachievement, especially considering he got 6 extra Finals chances by being in the EEast

So no. He doesn't yield good teams

Gohan
02-06-2022, 07:20 PM
Lebron stans tryna lift up westbrook in past seasons to put down durant. Westbrook has always been trash and lebron too. I cant wait till they expose lebron for taking steroids. I got sources, ill tell you one: eliteballer. Thats all im gonna say

warriorfan
02-06-2022, 07:23 PM
Lebron stans tryna lift up westbrook in past seasons to put down durant. Westbrook has always been trash and lebron too. I cant wait till they expose lebron for taking steroids. I got sources, ill tell you one: eliteballer. Thats all im gonna say

I told these dudes years ago he’s gonna get caught and end up getting the Barry bonds treatment and won’t even be in the hall of fame

TheGoatest
02-06-2022, 08:30 PM
This is absolutely pathetic. And Westbrook has always been this type of player. Or it seems to me ever since he began setting out to get triple doubles. This notion that Westbrook was a better player is false. It's only magnified because he plays in LA with LeBron.

Yeah, he was definitely a blatant stat-padder in his initial post-Durant years.
I remember one season on the final game of the season he needed 14 rebounds to secure averaging a triple-double. His second triple-double season. There was some talk about whether he will be the first to average a triple-double twice. But he finished the game with a season high 20 rebounds. He had more rebounds than the rest of the Thunder starting lineup combined. There was only one Thunder player who had more than 4 rebounds: Steven Adams with 7. :oldlol:

None of this means that he wasn't good though, and was a very much different player than he is today. He had three straight all-star games where he scored 41, 31 and 41, two of those he was the all-star game MVP. You put current Westbrick in an all-star game and he would shoot 2-15 of something, if the coach allowed him to play.

hold this L
02-07-2022, 10:21 AM
Kawhi in particular. LeBron has never heard the end of 2011 and Curry has never heard the end of 2016, but Kawhi pooping his pants in 2020 is no big deal I guess.

Kawhi definitely has it worse and has an impunity badge regardless of what he does. Pretty odd standard for a top 35 player of all time in the NBA.

Manny98
02-07-2022, 11:13 AM
Lebron stans tryna lift up westbrook in past seasons to put down durant. Westbrook has always been trash and lebron too. I cant wait till they expose lebron for taking steroids. I got sources, ill tell you one: eliteballer. Thats all im gonna say

This, Westbrook is a bum worst MVP ever.

imdaman99
02-07-2022, 11:57 PM
Westbrook been trash this year, I will be the first to admit it. That being said, this team is not built around him. Not saying it should be, but he doesn't know how to play when he's been neutered to not turn it over. He has high highs and low lows. Not much in between. He is a notorious slow starter but warms up. I'm afraid he won't get to warm up because he has already been given up on. And they will need him in the playoffs... if they make it.

imdaman99
02-08-2022, 12:08 AM
This is prime Westbrook:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8erK7T_LIQ


Down 20 points. Hes a loser, a disgrace and a fraud. Always has been.

He just wanted to get the triple double record out of the way so he could concentrate on winning the following games. I wouldn't expect you to get that as Rose was prob not playing that night, or the next night, or the night after. Just like now :rolleyes: Once he got the triple double record out of the way, he took over. Do you need to see the video for that? Well here it is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I51pSniQg7A

warriorfan
02-08-2022, 01:31 AM
He just wanted to get the triple double record out of the way so he could concentrate on winning the following games. I wouldn't expect you to get that as Rose was prob not playing that night, or the next night, or the night after. Just like now :rolleyes: Once he got the triple double record out of the way, he took over. Do you need to see the video for that? Well here it is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I51pSniQg7A

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Spurs m8
02-08-2022, 02:49 AM
This, Westbrook is a bum worst MVP ever.

Harden was way worse.

coastalmarker99
02-09-2022, 05:14 AM
Russell Westbrook over his last 4 games:

10.3 PPG
27.5% FG
15.4% 3PT
55% FT
-24


What a ****ing bum this guy is.

La Frescobaldi
02-09-2022, 07:36 AM
He just wanted to get the triple double record out of the way so he could concentrate on winning the following games. I wouldn't expect you to get that as Rose was prob not playing that night, or the next night, or the night after. Just like now :rolleyes: Once he got the triple double record out of the way, he took over. Do you need to see the video for that? Well here it is.



Love how Adams is like “nah” and refuses to help stat pad that assist. He just dumps it to anybody else

ImKobe
02-09-2022, 07:47 AM
Westbrook been trash this year, I will be the first to admit it. That being said, this team is not built around him. Not saying it should be, but he doesn't know how to play when he's been neutered to not turn it over. He has high highs and low lows. Not much in between. He is a notorious slow starter but warms up. I'm afraid he won't get to warm up because he has already been given up on. And they will need him in the playoffs... if they make it.

It's just not going to work with him & Lebron. He played well enough while Bron was injured but it's just been a very awkward fit all season.

When James got injured early on, WB averaged 19/8/9 and shot 36.8% from 3 in 9 games, not great but at least he looked more confident and had some good games in there.

When James sat out with a sore knee just recently, he averaged 20/6/7 on 47%FG/39%3PT and only turned the ball over 3.4 times a game and shot above 50% in 3 out of the 5 games. You can call it luck or him playing some bad teams but to me it's evident that he needs to be either benched or traded for this team to win more games.

PeroAntic
02-09-2022, 08:46 AM
He just wanted to get the triple double record out of the way so he could concentrate on winning the following games. I wouldn't expect you to get that as Rose was prob not playing that night, or the next night, or the night after. Just like now :rolleyes: Once he got the triple double record out of the way, he took over. Do you need to see the video for that? Well here it is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I51pSniQg7A

Hey I get it. Priorities, right? :applause: