we have literally gotten to the point where you can't even shoot an ARMED black man

[John_Connor]

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video-c.php?v=wshh0ZvVT6EfVVd0c3u2#comments-arena

no wonder Hunter did nothing but trash liberal progressives. you're turning this world into some kind of Biff Tannen multiverse



https://youtu.be/rPVNVy9pq28

[John_Connor]

Google Amir Locke right now. this doesn't even seem real anymore.

https://i.postimg.cc/NFMpgk9k/Screenshot-20220206-110141-Gallery.jpg

[John_Connor]

https://youtu.be/9eJSwigON0k


this is becoming more and more true by the day. you people are sick. you need help

[ArbitraryWater]

i actually think this is a tricky one.

on the fence here.

the guy is just barely waking up probably has no idea whats happening.

although they must have yelled police?

but still like youre so dazed.

[ArbitraryWater]

Google Amir Locke right now. this doesn't even seem real anymore.

https://i.postimg.cc/NFMpgk9k/Screenshot-20220206-110141-Gallery.jpg


"after he reached for 'legal gun'" lmao

[John_Connor]

i actually think this is a tricky one.

on the fence here.

the guy is just barely waking up probably has no idea whats happening.

although they must have yelled police?

but still like youre so dazed.

here's an idea.. don't sleep with a gun in your hand. if you have that many enemies you were destined to get gunned down sooner or later anyway

most people keep their gun in a lock box or locked drawer. if they're pros then maybe a quick release secret compartment. if you're some wild west gunman redneck or thug then yeah maybe it's under your pillow but then it's just darwinism/natural selection

[diamenz]

i'm not gonna take a side here, but it's clear from the body cam footage that the kid wasn't aiming in the cops' direction and not only that, but he didn't have his finger on the trigger. hence why the body cam cop was trying to push his partner's gun away.

on the other hand, you've gotta make a split second decision in the heat of the moment and cops are human beings, they're not robots.

you could go either way in this argument. unfortunate outcome regardless.

[John_Connor]

i'm not gonna take a side here, but it's clear from the body cam footage that the kid wasn't aiming in the cops' direction and not only that, but he didn't have his finger on the trigger. hence why the body cam cop was trying to push his partner's gun away.

on the other hand, you've gotta make a split second decision in the heat of the moment and cops are human beings, they're not robots.

you could go either way in this argument. unfortunate outcome regardless.

I swear it's like I'm living in a twilight zone episode...

its ok to have a gun but it has to be holsterd. if you don't have a holster f*cking buy one. never pull your gun out in anything but a life or death situation. if you're pulling out your gun every time someone walks up to you then you deserve to f*cking die. it wasn't matter if his gun wasn't pointed at the cops. he had the gun in his hand. the only time a person has a gun in their hand is if they intend to shoot it or make someone believe you intend to shoot it. there is no excuse for this shit. be a responsible gun owner and you might have lived another day.

[diamenz]

I swear it's like I'm living in a twilight zone episode...

its ok to have a gun but it has to be holsterd. if you don't have a holster f*cking buy one. never pull your gun out in anything but a life or death situation. if you're pulling out your gun every time someone walks up to you then you deserve to f*cking die. it wasn't matter if his gun wasn't pointed at the cops. he had the gun in his hand. the only time a person has a gun in their hand is if they intend to shoot it or make someone believe you intend to shoot it. there is no excuse for this shit. be a responsible gun owner and you might have lived another day.

yes, john. if everybody did everything the right way in this world in any given situation... well then we just wouldn't have any of these kinds of problems. you're the one living in a twilight zone utopia.

i'm not saying what's right or wrong. the situation was what it was.

[John_Connor]

yes, john. if everybody did everything the right way in this world in any given situation... well then we just wouldn't have any of these kinds of problems. you're the one living in a twilight zone utopia.

i'm not saying what's right or wrong. the situation was what it was.

the debate here isn't "what will happen sometimes"

its "what should happen to avoid this exact type of situation"


obviously its inevitable that people will continue being retards and getting shot by cops. but thats on them not the cops

[Long Duck Dong]

I'm going to take the side against the police on this one.
"No knock warrants" are total bullshit and invite the exact kind of thing that happened here.

The cop did what he thought he needed to do in this situation so I don't know if I can blame him but police policy got this guy killed. From what I understand he was not the subject of the search and had no criminal history.

You wake someone from a deep sleep and he's going to go for his gun if he's alarmed. Its just a natural reaction. The family has a legit lawsuit against the police department and unfortunately I hope the taxpayers don't have to dish out too much because the family deserves to win.

No knock warrants are designed to protect police but put law abiding citizens lives in danger. The cops know what they signed up for when they joined the force, plus have protection in numbers and body armor. If there's a party that should sacrifice it's safety it should be cops, not citizens

[John_Connor]

I'm going to take the side against the police on this one.
"No knock warrants" are total bullshit and invite the exact kind of thing that happened here.

The cop did what he thought he needed to do in this situation so I don't know if I can blame him but police policy got this guy killed. From what I understand he was not the subject of the search and had no criminal history.

You wake someone from a deep sleep and he's going to go for his gun if he's alarmed. Its just a natural reaction. The family has a legit lawsuit against the police department and unfortunately I hope the taxpayers don't have to dish out too much because the family deserves to win.

No knock warrants are designed to protect police but put law abiding citizens lives in danger. The cops know what they signed up for when they joined the force, plus have protection in numbers and body armor. If there's a party that should sacrifice it's safety it should be cops, not citizens

no knock warrants are usually for hardened criminals that sleep with guns in their hands and are totally insane and a threat to society. if you knock then chances are they're barricading themselves/flushing drugs/entering a stand off or possible hostage/suicide situation.


he didn't do a good job proving the cops wrong by literally sleeping with a gun in his hand then waking up and pointing it in the air or whatever. this is a guy thats better off gone. either dead/in jail/deported. f*ck this retard. zero sympathy

[highwhey]

I'm going to take the side against the police on this one.
"No knock warrants" are total bullshit and invite the exact kind of thing that happened here.

The cop did what he thought he needed to do in this situation so I don't know if I can blame him but police policy got this guy killed. From what I understand he was not the subject of the search and had no criminal history.

You wake someone from a deep sleep and he's going to go for his gun if he's alarmed. Its just a natural reaction. The family has a legit lawsuit against the police department and unfortunately I hope the taxpayers don't have to dish out too much because the family deserves to win.

No knock warrants are designed to protect police but put law abiding citizens lives in danger. The cops know what they signed up for when they joined the force, plus have protection in numbers and body armor. If there's a party that should sacrifice it's safety it should be cops, not citizens

no knock warrants are a reflection of a police-state. over stepping authority, they are absolute bullshit. somewhere along the way this country decided that police(civil servants) are more important than the citizens they serve.

take a step back to see how fvcked up this country is. reminds me of the hostage that died in the stolen UPS truck because the cops decided to shoot the truck while the hostage was inside it...all for what? did they forget their jobs or is it that they don't give a shit because their safety is a priority over the lives of the people they serve?

[ArbitraryWater]

I'm going to take the side against the police on this one.
"No knock warrants" are total bullshit and invite the exact kind of thing that happened here.

The cop did what he thought he needed to do in this situation so I don't know if I can blame him but police policy got this guy killed. From what I understand he was not the subject of the search and had no criminal history.

You wake someone from a deep sleep and he's going to go for his gun if he's alarmed. Its just a natural reaction. The family has a legit lawsuit against the police department and unfortunately I hope the taxpayers don't have to dish out too much because the family deserves to win.

No knock warrants are designed to protect police but put law abiding citizens lives in danger. The cops know what they signed up for when they joined the force, plus have protection in numbers and body armor. If there's a party that should sacrifice it's safety it should be cops, not citizens

I‘m leaning against police on this one also.


And god knows im a cop apologist and hate whats become of society as much as op does.

[Long Duck Dong]

no knock warrants are a reflection of a police-state. over stepping authority, they are absolute bullshit. somewhere along the way this country decided that police(civil servants) are more important than the citizens they serve.

take a step back to see how fvcked up this country is. reminds me of the hostage that died in the stolen UPS truck because the cops decided to shoot the truck while the hostage was inside it...all for what? did they forget their jobs or is it that they don't give a shit because their safety is a priority over the lives of the people they serve?

That one was absolutely insane and unforgivable. The cops weren't even shot at first, they unloaded on that UPS truck almost as soon as it stopped with cars all around and dozens of pedestrians all crossing the street nearby that the cops could plainly see. They weren't even shooting at the truck with pistols and shotguns. Many were using rifles that can easily penetrate multiple vehicles.

The fact that 19 cops lost their minds and did this with people all around is absolutely mind boggling. But if there's one police agency that I wouldn't be surprised did something this stupid, it's the Miami area cops. If you've ever seen video of them, they are mostly idiots and totally unprofessional, as well as being one of the most corrupt agencies in the nation. A lot of them sound and act like former gang members themselves. Their hiring standards are almost certainly lower than the morons who make up the LAPD.

[John_Connor]

no knock warrants are a reflection of a police-state. over stepping authority, they are absolute bullshit. somewhere along the way this country decided that police(civil servants) are more important than the citizens they serve.

take a step back to see how fvcked up this country is. reminds me of the hostage that died in the stolen UPS truck because the cops decided to shoot the truck while the hostage was inside it...all for what? did they forget their jobs or is it that they don't give a shit because their safety is a priority over the lives of the people they serve?

a no knock warrant for a law abiding citizen is overstepping authority

for a complete scumbag with a history of being a thug lowlife asshole its completely warranted. the only reason you're against it is probably because you're a lowlife asshole scumbag like this guy. you post pictures of yourself shirtless with flab and guns everywhere like some subhuman commando trying to look tough on the internet. i already know what type of person you are just from that shit




https://i.postimg.cc/fyfx30NH/Screenshot-20220206-174834-Gallery.jpg

[highwhey]

That one was absolutely insane and unforgivable. The cops weren't even shot at first, they unloaded on that UPS truck almost as soon as it stopped with cars all around and dozens of pedestrians all crossing the street nearby that the cops could plainly see. They weren't even shooting at the truck with pistols and shotguns. Many were using rifles that can easily penetrate multiple vehicles.

The fact that 19 cops lost their minds and did this with people all around is absolutely mind boggling. But if there's one police agency that I wouldn't be surprised did something this stupid, it's the Miami area cops. If you've ever seen video of them, they are mostly idiots and totally unprofessional, as well as being one of the most corrupt agencies in the nation. A lot of them sound and act like former gang members themselves. Their hiring standards are almost certainly lower than the morons who make up the LAPD.
it's perplexing to me when i think about 19 police all acting in unison while they unload their weapons into a vehicle on a public roadway with an innocent life inside the vehicle. they should all be fired because not one of them stopped to think if shooting into the vehicle was a logical thing to do. herd mentality i guess.

and i don't know anything about the miami PD, but i've seen police departments with that type of thug officers...it's unsettling that they are given a badge+gun. scottsdale PD has some officers like that, not that long ago some of them got busted for shooting steroids in the locker room at their police department :facepalm

[highwhey]

a no knock warrant for a law abiding citizen is overstepping authority

for a complete scumbag with a history of being a thug lowlife asshole its completely warranted. the only reason you're against it is probably because you're a lowlife asshole scumbag like this guy. you post pictures of yourself shirtless with flab and guns everywhere like some subhuman commando trying to look tough on the internet. i already know what type of person you are just from that shit




https://i.postimg.cc/fyfx30NH/Screenshot-20220206-174834-Gallery.jpg

i look so ****ing badass. my back was all scratched up in that picture too. banged a girl so good she drove her nails into my back while i was fvcking her. you probably wouldn't know anything about making a girl orgasm and hold you tight while her legs quiver.

[Long Duck Dong]

a no knock warrant for a law abiding citizen is overstepping authority

for a complete scumbag with a history of being a thug lowlife asshole its completely warranted. the only reason you're against it is probably because you're a lowlife asshole scumbag like this guy. you post pictures of yourself shirtless with flab and guns everywhere like some subhuman commando trying to look tough on the internet. i already know what type of person you are just from that shit




https://i.postimg.cc/fyfx30NH/Screenshot-20220206-174834-Gallery.jpg

Some lowlife thugs live with law abiding people and sometimes cops make a mistake and target the wrong house. This is America. Anyone bursting down a door can expect to be shot at or attacked, whether it's police or criminals. A lot of people in the US choose to make their own fate and attack threats head on instead of waiting to see if they are going to victimized first. A choice that should be for citizens, not cops who have the benefit of planning, numbers are personal armor protection.

I think most police agencies are getting rid of no knock warrants for this very reason. Just like most police agencies have chosen to not engage in high speed chases over minor offenses. The risk to law abiding citizens is simply too high to catch a criminal instantly versus playing it safe and waiting

[John_Connor]

banged a girl so good




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHj0dtSwxqQ&ab_channel=numberszerothrunine




you probably wouldn't know anything about making a girl orgasm




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NOM-kLfDR8



i look so ****ing badass.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI3_uqzqV2k

[highwhey]

:oldlol: kenny you're so autistic i'm just gonna leave it at that

[John_Connor]

Some lowlife thugs live with law abiding people and sometimes cops make a mistake and target the wrong house. This is America. Anyone bursting down a door can expect to be shot at or attacked, whether it's police or criminals. A lot of people in the US choose to make their own fate and attack threats head on instead of waiting to see if they are going to victimized first. A choice that should be for citizens, not cops who have the benefit of planning, numbers are personal armor protection.

I think most police agencies are getting rid of no knock warrants for this very reason. Just like most police agencies have chosen to not engage in high speed chases over minor offenses. The risk to law abiding citizens is simply too high to catch a criminal instantly versus playing it safe and waiting

ok so if they break down the "law abiding" guys house chances are he won't be on the couch sleeping with a gun in his hand ready to blast the first person that walks up on him

[highwhey]

ok so if they break down the "law abiding" guys house chances are he won't be on the couch sleeping with a gun in his hand ready to blast the first person that walks up on him

idiot comments like this happen when foreigners like yourself kenny share your opinion on a situation you have zero idea about. you are not listening to Long duck dong's comment. America has a strong gun culture, law abiding citizens have firearms and anyone intruding in your home will get shot.

[Long Duck Dong]

ok so if they break down the "law abiding" guys house chances are he won't be on the couch sleeping with a gun in his hand ready to blast the first person that walks up on him


This is not true at all. A lot of people arm themselves when they hear noises or strange voices outside their house. A lot of people without children sleep next to their gun. Your door all of a sudden explodes in the middle of the night or you are awoken and see a stranger in your house before you can recognize the uniform and it's a recipe for disaster.

If cops coming into a home without notice could be certain the first person they meet is the subject of their warrant, then maybe it might be acceptable. albeit an arguable conflict with the 4th amendment if another person owns or rents the property. But they cant, so them entering a home without notice is just a bad idea.

[egokiller]

no knock warrants are a reflection of a police-state. over stepping authority, they are absolute bullshit. somewhere along the way this country decided that police(civil servants) are more important than the citizens they serve.

take a step back to see how fvcked up this country is. reminds me of the hostage that died in the stolen UPS truck because the cops decided to shoot the truck while the hostage was inside it...all for what? did they forget their jobs or is it that they don't give a shit because their safety is a priority over the lives of the people they serve?

This is correct.

[John_Connor]

This is correct.

na. and here's why

regardless of the police possibly making a mistake and using their no knock warrant on the wrong house (a fluke occurrence and those responsible should be held accountable/accidents happen)

you're all basing this on the rights of a law abiding citizen. when no knock warrants are issued that means there's substantial evidence of criminal activity. and in that case a persons rights are forfeited. this whole "im in my home you can't do anything" stance is the same as someone in their car assuming "im in my car I refuse to comply. am I being detained" which is all good AS LONG AS YOURE INNOCENT... if however you just ran over a kid or you have a warrant out fir your arrest. well guess what? they're breaking your window and dragging you out.

this isn't school or some childhood make believe invincible shield. it's land you or your landlord rented from the government and you built a box around it. so the government decides whether or not they have the right to enter. and even if you bought the land it's still on US soil. you aren't your own president or governor when inside your own home. there might be some kind of ammendment that makes you believe you're protected but imagine how f*cking retarded it would be if a guy robbed a bank and was in a high speed chase then just went home and locked his door and the cops said "oh well. guess he got away. he's in his house. we can't do anything now"

(((knock knock))) "hello? bank robber? can you pweeease come out? it's been 5 hours :( "

give me a f*cking break

[highwhey]

na. and here's why

regardless of the police possibly making a mistake and using their no knock warrant on the wrong house (a fluke occurrence and those responsible should be held accountable/accidents happen)

you're all basing this on the rights of a law abiding citizen. when no knock warrants are issued that means there's substantial evidence of criminal activity. and in that case a persons rights are forfeited. this whole "im in my home you can't do anything" stance is the same as someone in their car assuming "im in my car I refuse to comply. am I being detained" which is all good AS LONG AS YOURE INNOCENT... if however you just ran over a kid or you have a warrant out fir your arrest. well guess what? they're breaking your window and dragging you out.

this isn't school or some childhood make believe invincible shield. it's land you or your landlord rented from the government and you built a box around it. so the government decides whether or not they have the right to enter. and even if you bought the land it's still on US soil. you aren't your own president or governor when inside your own home. there might be some kind of ammendment that makes you believe you're protected but imagine how f*cking retarded it would be if a guy robbed a bank and was in a high speed chase then just went home and locked his door and the cops said "oh well. guess he got away. he's in his house. we can't do anything now"

(((knock knock))) "hello? bank robber? can you pweeease come out? it's been 5 hours :( "

give me a f*cking break

you have no idea. you're way out of your depth here kenny. a warrant is just a signed paper that authorizes law enforcement to carry out some sort of court-given order. it does not equate to having your rights stripped. until you step foot in prison, your rights are not stripped. a warrant does not mean you're are proven to be guilty. you seem to have this habit of taking a hard stance based on your personal opinion and beliefs, you shove any logic out of the way. you're so mistaken i don't see any positive outcome from this thread, you'll continue to hold your stance despite being proven wrong. you'll then proceed to make another misguided thread to seek more attention and abandon this one.

[John_Connor]

you have no idea. you're way out of your depth here kenny. a warrant is just a signed paper that authorizes law enforcement to carry out some sort of court-given order. it does not equate to having your rights stripped. until you step foot in prison, your rights are not stripped. a warrant does not mean you're are proven to be guilty. you seem to have this habit of taking a hard stance based on your personal opinion and beliefs, you shove any logic out of the way. you're so mistaken i don't see any positive outcome from this thread, you'll continue to hold your stance despite being proven wrong. you'll then proceed to make another misguided thread to seek more attention and abandon this one.

a warrant isn't just a piece of paper. its a part of state law. and what rights do you assume you have as a criminal.. the right to life? sure.. the right to an attorney? sure... the right to remain silent? sure.... see where I'm going with this? yes you have rights. but as a criminal with an arrest warrant you lose many of your regular rights like the right to freedom. privacy and your own personal space to not be assaulted/detained etc...

but those rights are tossed when you have evidence of committing a crime and you're a fugitive. sorry but cops arrest people. you don't have immunity just because you're inside your home. again.. you're thinking of an innocent person. no knock warrants usually happen when there's substantial video evidence of criminal activity and people today don't realize there's HD cameras literally everywhere. theres data locations on your phone from your service provider that is recorded all the time and saved on your Verizon or fido database. there's facial recognition software.

there's cops tracking everything you post or say online. especially you Mr highweight. you posting terrorist/cartel looking photos on a public board just makes you a target. I have no doubt if you did anything illegal to the point where cops could make a name for themselves catching you there's no doubt they would give the green light and bust your door down too. but good thing for you I predict there's no ties to any real crime organization and you're just a queer that shows off guns you shot like 2-3 times each at the range and never kept up practicing cause the rounds cost too much for your disability checks to cover

[highwhey]

i actually think this is a tricky one.

on the fence here.

the guy is just barely waking up probably has no idea whats happening.

although they must have yelled police?

but still like youre so dazed.

no knock warrant means they enter without announcing who they are. i think police should always announce their presence especially in a country with loose gun laws. it's a constitutional right in America to protect yourself/your property with firearms.

[John_Connor]

no knock warrant means they enter without announcing who they are. i think police should always announce their presence especially in a country with loose gun laws. it's a constitutional right in America to protect yourself/your property with firearms.

this is incorrect. after opening the door they clearly announce their presence in the video

[highwhey]

this is incorrect. after opening the door they clearly announce their presence in the video

yes, after breaching, aka they break into a house and then announce themselves. no-knock warrants are unconstitutional. in a country with armed citizens, breaking into a house is a surefire way to get shot. i hope his family wins their lawsuit, not that it will make them whole.

[John_Connor]

yes, after breaching, aka they break into a house and then announce themselves. no-knock warrants are unconstitutional. in a country with armed citizens, breaking into a house is a surefire way to get shot. i hope his family wins their lawsuit, not that it will make them whole.

they didn't break in. the Court issued a no knock warrant and the landlord gave them a key. they entered legally. it's not unconstitutional because the constitution only applies in some parts to law abiding citizens. like the right to bear arms. obviously that is revoked if you murder someone. theres a reason this dude was huddled on a couch with a gun in his hand. he obviously was waiting for people to come. either the guys he f*cked over or the cops. he coulda been ready. his mistake. dead.

[highwhey]

canadian weighing in american news with no idea about american gun culture and laws. :eek:

[Patrick Chewing]

"after he reached for 'legal gun'" lmao

Anything they can to make the Black thug/criminal look innocent. Quite comical.

[Long Duck Dong]

they didn't break in. the Court issued a no knock warrant and the landlord gave them a key. they entered legally. it's not unconstitutional because the constitution only applies in some parts to law abiding citizens. like the right to bear arms. obviously that is revoked if you murder someone. theres a reason this dude was huddled on a couch with a gun in his hand. he obviously was waiting for people to come. either the guys he f*cked over or the cops. he coulda been ready. his mistake. dead.

No knock warrants are going to be gone gone soon. They started with the war on drugs in the early 80s, peaked about 10 years ago, and have been declining since.

Florida pretty much banned them all in 1994. Oregon and Virginia since then have banned them as well except in super special circumstances. Kentucky and Tennessee has banned about 90% of the situations which would formerly allow them. Texas has bipartisan support to ban them with a bill currently going through their legislature. Their "reward" just isn't worth the risk in about 99% of the situations they are currently used in

[Patrick Chewing]

Two Latino NYPD police officers shot and killed the other day responding to a call. Not a peep from anyone.


But the ****ing moment one of these shitbirds dies at the hands of police and justifiably so.....they want chaos and war on the streets. You people who support BLM and Antifa and support criminality disgust me.

[John_Connor]

No knock warrants are going to be gone gone soon. They started with the war on drugs in the early 80s, peaked about 10 years ago, and have been declining since.

Florida pretty much banned them all in 1994. Oregon and Virginia since then have banned them as well except in super special circumstances. Kentucky and Tennessee has banned about 90% of the situations which would formerly allow them. Texas has bipartisan support to ban them with a bill currently going through their legislature. Their "reward" just isn't worth the risk in about 99% of the situations they are currently used in

well its nice of them to give the criminals a better chance to flush their drugs, burn evidence and take hostages or commit murder suicide. that's way better than shooting an armed suspect in the face and calling it a day


https://m.worldstar.com/web/video.php?v=wshhe0J8Ws72BzmLqJeI


this is a happy ending to prove how giving a man time to think things through always ends up as a positive

[Long Duck Dong]

But the ****ing moment one of these shitbirds dies at the hands of police and justifiably so.....they want chaos and war on the streets. You people who support BLM and Antifa and support criminality disgust me.


C'mon man. This guy had no criminal record and had a valid concealed weapon permit. He was awoken at night by the cops entering his apartment suddenly and reached for his weapon before his brain could process what was going on.

[j3lademaster]

he didn't do a good job proving the cops wrong by literally sleeping with a gun in his hand then waking up and pointing it in the air or whatever. this is a guy thats better off gone. either dead/in jail/deported. f*ck this retard. zero sympathyThere's nothing wrong with having a gun on your nightstand if you live in a bad neighborhood. It's literally what the 2nd amendment is for.

[Long Duck Dong]

well its nice of them to give the criminals a better chance to flush their drugs, burn evidence and take hostages or commit murder suicide. that's way better than shooting an armed suspect in the face and calling it a day


https://m.worldstar.com/web/video.php?v=wshhe0J8Ws72BzmLqJeI


this is a happy ending to prove how giving a man time to think things through always ends up as a positive


I care more about our constitutional rights than cop's safety or giving criminal's a chance to dispose of evidence.

[highwhey]

I care more about our constitutional rights than cop's safety or giving criminal's a chance to dispose of evidence.

OP is trolling, so there is no reasoning with him. But this goes back to my original question: at what point did we decided police are more important than the people they are supposed to serve? doesn't that make it a moot point to have a police force?

[John_Connor]

I care more about our constitutional rights than cop's safety or giving criminal's a chance to dispose of evidence.

so you think if a guys in his house raping kids that cops can't get a warrant to enter and have to knock and wait for him to answer


again these amendments/constitutional rights aren't set in stone. there's a basic level of conduct required to be afforded them. like back when they wrote these things they probly went outside and hung 10 people in the town square afterwards. what happened to their rights lol

[Patrick Chewing]

C'mon man. This guy had no criminal record and had a valid concealed weapon permit. He was awoken at night by the cops entering his apartment suddenly and reached for his weapon before his brain could process what was going on.

I'm speaking in general. Tired of the double standard and outward hypocrisy. Don't have an opinion one way or the other over "No-Knock" warrants. All I know is that the criminal element is out there in full force and plenty of police have died by serving warrants. No one protests or burns cities to the ground when police get shot or killed. But when a career criminal gets offed, the community then wants to paint murals and build monuments to them.

I've always stood firm in my belief that if you do not lead a life of crime, then you don't ever have to face the law or have the law come looking for you. So whether this was a justified shooting or not, I always pin the blame on the perp for putting himself in that position to begin with.

[Long Duck Dong]

so you think if a guys in his house raping kids that cops can't get a warrant to enter and have to knock and wait for him to answer


You don't need a warrant for probable cause. If they know for certain a crime is going on inside a dwelling they can enter without a warrant or even notice

[highwhey]

You don't need a warrant for probable cause. If they know for certain a crime is going on inside a dwelling they can enter without a warrant or even notice

:lol kenny is talking out of his ass, don't waste your time

[Long Duck Dong]

:lol kenny is talking out of his ass, don't waste your time

I kinda figured he was trolling :oldlol:

But you were engaging with him so I said what the hell why not I'm bored

[TheMan]

no knock warrants are usually for hardened criminals that sleep with guns in their hands and are totally insane and a threat to society. if you knock then chances are they're barricading themselves/flushing drugs/entering a stand off or possible hostage/suicide situation.


he didn't do a good job proving the cops wrong by literally sleeping with a gun in his hand then waking up and pointing it in the air or whatever. this is a guy thats better off gone. either dead/in jail/deported. f*ck this retard. zero sympathy

Wow, what a bizarre take, apparently the victim had no criminal history?

[John_Connor]

Wow, what a bizarre take, apparently the victim had no criminal history?

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