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Honor Boost
02-08-2022, 01:21 PM
Also what is your favourite course to play?

John_Connor
02-08-2022, 03:06 PM
the golden bear played with these

https://i.ibb.co/Xj83KMT/Screenshot-20220208-140011-Google.jpg

tiger woods and other golfers since the late 90s have been playing with clubs like these

https://i.ibb.co/Czqrnjj/Screenshot-20220208-140251-Google.jpg

give me the guy that can hit 12 under par with a rake and a walking stick

Bronbron23
02-08-2022, 11:42 PM
the golden bear played with these

https://i.ibb.co/Xj83KMT/Screenshot-20220208-140011-Google.jpg

tiger woods and other golfers since the late 90s have been playing with clubs like these

https://i.ibb.co/Czqrnjj/Screenshot-20220208-140251-Google.jpg

give me the guy that can hit 12 under par with a rake and a walking stick

Probably. He's the goat period imo. He lost a bunch of time to injuries and the scandal bur tiger the best to ever play the game imo. Jack was a problem too though from what i hear.

John_Connor
02-08-2022, 11:46 PM
Probably. He's the goat period imo. He lost a bunch of time to injuries and the scandal bur tiger the best to ever play the game imo. Jack was a problem too though from what i hear.

tiger woods was not better than Jack


https://youtu.be/u9KrMQDU94g

Bronbron23
02-08-2022, 11:50 PM
tiger woods was not better than Jack


https://youtu.be/u9KrMQDU94g

Won't argue it. Jack was apparently ridiculous also and i never seen him play like i did tiger so i really can't say. That putt was btw.

Honor Boost
02-09-2022, 02:32 PM
mhmm but Tiger W. Has the record for lowest average in pga history

under 68.6 pga tour avg only happened seven times ever....

all by tiger

no one else

2021 — Jon Rahm, 69.300
2020 — Webb Simpson, 68.978
2019 — Rory McIlroy, 69.057
2018 — Dustin Johnson, 68.698
2017 — Jordan Spieth, 68.846
2016 — Dustin Johnson, 69.172
2015 — Jordan Spieth, 68.938
2014 — Rory McIlroy, 68.827
2013 — Steve Stricker, 68.945
2012 — Rory McIlroy, 68.873
2011 — Luke Donald, 68.86
2010 — Matt Kuchar, 69.61
2009 — Tiger Woods, 68.05
2008 — Sergio Garcia, 69.12
2007 — Tiger Woods, 67.79
2006 — Tiger Woods, 68.11
2005 — Tiger Woods, 68.66
2004 — Vijay Singh, 68.84
2003 — Tiger Woods, 68.41
2002 — Tiger Woods, 68.56
2001 — Tiger Woods, 68.81
2000 — Tiger Woods, 67.79
1999 — Tiger Woods, 68.43
1998 — David Duval, 69.13
1997 — Nick Price, 68.98
1996 — Tom Lehman, 69.32
1995 — Greg Norman, 69.06
1994 — Greg Norman, 68.81
1993 — Greg Norman, 68.90
1992 — Fred Couples, 69.38
1991 — Fred Couples, 69.59
1990 — Greg Norman, 69.10
1989 — Greg Norman, 69.49
1988 — Greg Norman, 69.38
1987 — David Frost, 70.09
1986 — Scott Hoch, 70.08
1985 — Don Pooley, 70.36
1984 — Calvin Peete, 70.56
1983 — Raymond Floyd, 70.61
1982 — Tom Kite, 70.21
1981 — Tom Kite, 69.80
1980 — Lee Trevino, 69.73

2000 tiger = 67.79
2007 tiger = 67.79
2009 tiger = 68.05
2006 tiger = 68.11
2003 tiger = 68.41
1999 tiger = 68.43
2002 tiger = 68.56

the 7 lowest ever averages are all tiger

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 03:08 PM
mhmm but Tiger W. Has the record for lowest average in pga history

under 68.6 pga tour avg only happened seven times ever....

all by tiger

no one else

2021 — Jon Rahm, 69.300
2020 — Webb Simpson, 68.978
2019 — Rory McIlroy, 69.057
2018 — Dustin Johnson, 68.698
2017 — Jordan Spieth, 68.846
2016 — Dustin Johnson, 69.172
2015 — Jordan Spieth, 68.938
2014 — Rory McIlroy, 68.827
2013 — Steve Stricker, 68.945
2012 — Rory McIlroy, 68.873
2011 — Luke Donald, 68.86
2010 — Matt Kuchar, 69.61
2009 — Tiger Woods, 68.05
2008 — Sergio Garcia, 69.12
2007 — Tiger Woods, 67.79
2006 — Tiger Woods, 68.11
2005 — Tiger Woods, 68.66
2004 — Vijay Singh, 68.84
2003 — Tiger Woods, 68.41
2002 — Tiger Woods, 68.56
2001 — Tiger Woods, 68.81
2000 — Tiger Woods, 67.79
1999 — Tiger Woods, 68.43
1998 — David Duval, 69.13
1997 — Nick Price, 68.98
1996 — Tom Lehman, 69.32
1995 — Greg Norman, 69.06
1994 — Greg Norman, 68.81
1993 — Greg Norman, 68.90
1992 — Fred Couples, 69.38
1991 — Fred Couples, 69.59
1990 — Greg Norman, 69.10
1989 — Greg Norman, 69.49
1988 — Greg Norman, 69.38
1987 — David Frost, 70.09
1986 — Scott Hoch, 70.08
1985 — Don Pooley, 70.36
1984 — Calvin Peete, 70.56
1983 — Raymond Floyd, 70.61
1982 — Tom Kite, 70.21
1981 — Tom Kite, 69.80
1980 — Lee Trevino, 69.73

2000 tiger = 67.79
2007 tiger = 67.79
2009 tiger = 68.05
2006 tiger = 68.11
2003 tiger = 68.41
1999 tiger = 68.43
2002 tiger = 68.56

the 7 lowest ever averages are all tiger

I bet 50 guys today can hit the ball farther than Jack ever could too lol

and? the guy played with fire poker

ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 04:21 PM
the golden bear played with these

https://i.ibb.co/Xj83KMT/Screenshot-20220208-140011-Google.jpg

tiger woods and other golfers since the late 90s have been playing with clubs like these

https://i.ibb.co/Czqrnjj/Screenshot-20220208-140251-Google.jpg

give me the guy that can hit 12 under par with a rake and a walking stick

Everyone played with the same clubs in their era.

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 04:29 PM
Everyone played with the same clubs in their era.

yeah and tigers the best of his era. and he has a claim over guys competing today that have drivers and balls that can go 400 yards easy

its like saying a race car driver today got faster lap times than a guy from the 60s and 70s.. no shit


these statistical measurements aren't comparable between eras. only majors are and overall wins

SouBeachTalents
02-09-2022, 04:32 PM
Nicklaus is the GOAT based off having the all time record and having a very lengthy career. But Tiger unquestionably had the greatest peak in the sports history. He was winning majors at nearly the rate of a Fed/Nadal/Djokovic, in a sport where it’s exponentially more difficult to do so.

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 04:44 PM
Nicklaus is the GOAT based off having the all time record and having a very lengthy career. But Tiger unquestionably had the greatest peak in the sports history. He was winning majors at nearly the rate of a Fed/Nadal/Djokovic, in a sport where it’s exponentially more difficult to do so.

I think he was on roids though which gave tiger a huge advantage. then when other guys got strong tiger couldn't win anything for a while

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 04:51 PM
like no wonder tiger was dominant for a while. his competition all had dad bods

https://i.ibb.co/Mnjztkw/Screenshot-20220209-154714-Gallery.jpg

ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 04:55 PM
yeah and tigers the best of his era. and he has a claim over guys competing today that have drivers and balls that can go 400 yards easy

its like saying a race car driver today got faster lap times than a guy from the 60s and 70s.. no shit

You clearly don’t know much about this. Yes, the equipment has gotten better and yes..guys are driving the ball now way farther. Yet somehow, average scores haven’t changed all that much. Why do you think that is?

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 04:59 PM
You clearly don’t know much about this. Yes, the equipment has gotten better and yes..guys are driving the ball now way farther. Yet somehow, average scores haven’t changed all that much. Why do you think that is?

guys today are more about driving the long ball than practicing the short game. I've watched tons of golf and back in the day every put was super close and when they missed it was like a hair off. and the drives were safe hits. today guys are shanking it left and right every time and putting it past the hole 7 feet or more. it's a joke. guys are ripping drives like those long ball hitters with the most ridiculous swings. it's so ugly to watch. I remember the last masters I think the guy on the last hole that won nearly choked and shanked every shot on 18. it was just sad. golf isn't even worth a damn anymore

I watched full length matches since the early 90s

the old days was waaaaaaay more polished and respectful. it was classy. now it's Adam Sandler video game type trash

ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 05:18 PM
guys today are more about driving the long ball than practicing the short game. I've watched tons of golf and back in the day every put was super close and when they missed it was like a hair off. and the drives were safe hits. today guys are shanking it left and right every time and putting it past the hole 7 feet or more. it's a joke. guys are ripping drives like those long ball hitters with the most ridiculous swings. it's so ugly to watch. I remember the last masters I think the guy on the last hole that won nearly choked and shanked every shot on 18. it was just sad. golf isn't even worth a damn anymore

I watched full length matches since the early 90s

the old days was waaaaaaay more polished and respectful. it was classy. now it's Adam Sandler video game type trash

Ok so you AREN’T aware that Augusta is about 500 yards longer now than it was in 1990? Most courses are way longer than they used to be. Augusta is on the conservative end for obvious reasons.

Newer courses are also narrower than they used to be.

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 05:25 PM
Ok so you AREN’T aware that Augusta is about 500 yards longer now than it was in 1990? Most courses are way longer than they used to be. Augusta is on the conservative end for obvious reasons.

Newer courses are also narrower than they used to be.

oh no not 27 yards more per hole. what will I ever do with my driver and ball that goes 100 yards more since the ones from 1990

Honor Boost
02-09-2022, 06:22 PM
Ok so you AREN’T aware that Augusta is about 500 yards longer now than it was in 1990? Most courses are way longer than they used to be. Augusta is on the conservative end for obvious reasons.

Newer courses are also narrower than they used to be.


preach it

Honor Boost
02-09-2022, 06:23 PM
oh no not 27 yards more per hole. what will I ever do with my driver and ball that goes 100 yards more since the ones from 1990

a long drive is not everything by your own admission or else jack wouldnt be top tier ??

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 07:16 PM
a long drive is not everything by your own admission or else jack wouldnt be top tier ??

yeah but guys have way more room for error now. back in the day you couldn't afford to shank it. now you can cause you're right beside the green and chipping 100 yards out of the rough is way easier than doing it 200 yards out of the rough

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 07:39 PM
Jack has

- 18 major championships
- 19 second place finishes at majors
- 53 top 5 finishes at majors
- 73 top 10 finishes at majors

Tiger has

- 15 major championships
- 7 second place finishes in majors
- 14 top 5 finishes in majors
- 25 top 10 finishes in majors


tiger shoulda got this VHS and practiced more


https://youtu.be/NPcDm0fvrl0

SouBeachTalents
02-09-2022, 08:15 PM
I think he was on roids though which gave tiger a huge advantage. then when other guys got strong tiger couldn't win anything for a while
Lmao, you're just going to attribute everybody's success to steroids now. Even golfers :lol

ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 08:18 PM
oh no not 27 yards more per hole. what will I ever do with my driver and ball that goes 100 yards more since the ones from 1990

On average, pro tour guys drive the ball around 32-34 yards more than they did in 1990.

Again..given that it's an iconic course, the distance of Augusta has changed on the conservative side. Most old school courses are longer than that and newer ones aren't even close to what they used to be.

With increased distance inevitably comes decreased accuracy though. This is true in any sporting event. So there's trade-offs to driving the ball further.

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 08:47 PM
Lmao, you're just going to attribute everybody's success to steroids now. Even golfers :lol

if someone's way more jacked than anyone that ever played or playing at a level nobodies ever seen or playing longer than anyone's ever seen then you gotta at the very least question it

but it's of no importance now that I've posted both guys major championships finishes. it's not even close like most people thought. it's only a debate if you just compare majors. when you compare all their finishes it's jack by a mile

I'm done here

ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 08:49 PM
Jack has played in 164 majors. Tiger 87.

Not really fair to compare. But wasn't the thread about Tiger in 2000? His stretch from 98 to 08 is easily the most dominant decade the sport has seen. Jack gets him on longevity.

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 08:55 PM
Jack has played in 164 majors. Tiger 87.

Not really fair to compare. But wasn't the thread about Tiger in 2000? His stretch from 98 to 08 is easily the most dominant decade the sport has seen. Jack gets him on longevity.

no it's actually quite fair because longevity is part of being the goat and twice as many majors with 3 times as many top 10s, 4 times as many top 5 finishes and more than twice as many 2nd place finishes shows he was more consistent than tiger

so he has consistency and longevity over tiger.

at best you can argue peak play. but that isn't what makes the goat. this is basically a michael jordan Kareem hybrid being compared to wilt

its not up for debate

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 09:02 PM
and btw jack hurt his per major win/ place finishes ratio by playing in 160+ tbh cause I remember a lot of times he would show up in his 40s and 50s I believe just as like a tribute to him. he went in knowing he would lose lol.. and yet he still had a way higher ratio of top 5/10 finishes than tiger

I think he even won a masters tournament at age 46

ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 09:04 PM
no it's actually quite fair because longevity is part of being the goat and twice as many majors with 3 times as many top 10s, 4 times as many top 5 finishes and more than twice as many 2nd place finishes shows he was more consistent than tiger

so he has consistency and longevity over tiger.

at best you can argue peak play. but that isn't what makes the goat. this is basically a michael jordan Kareem hybrid being compared to wilt

its not up for debate

It's clear that you haven't ever had an intelligent conversation about golf before :lol

By the way your numbers are way wrong. Tiger has 31 top 5s in majors and 38 tops 10s. You didn't include his wins as a top 5 or a top 10 but you did for Nicklaus.

So of the majors entered Nicklaus won 10.9% of them, was top 5 in 32.3%, and top 10 in 44.5%. For Tiger those numbers are 17.2%, 35.6%, and 43.6%.

So yea...Jack has the longevity.

But this wasn't about longevity it was about 2000 Tiger being the greatest version of a golfer the sport has ever seen. It's hard to deny that it was. Tiger was Jordan; Jack maybe a Russell and Kareem hybrid?

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 09:23 PM
It's clear that you haven't ever had an intelligent conversation about golf before :lol

By the way your numbers are way wrong. Tiger has 31 top 5s in majors and 38 tops 10s. You didn't include his wins as a top 5 or a top 10 but you did for Nicklaus.

So of the majors entered Nicklaus won 10.9% of them, was top 5 in 32.3%, and top 10 in 44.5%. For Tiger those numbers are 17.2%, 35.6%, and 43.6%.

So yea...Jack has the longevity.

But this wasn't about longevity it was about 2000 Tiger being the greatest version of a golfer the sport has ever seen. It's hard to deny that it was. Tiger was Jordan; Jack maybe a Russell and Kareem hybrid?

this right here is the end all be all in this joke of a debate

https://i.ibb.co/SVHGs7n/Screen-Shot-2022-02-09-at-8-16-55-PM.png

had jack nicklaus not showed up past age 41 he would still have more majors than tiger and basically a 90% top 10 finish ratio

but he stuck around as a celebration to the sport and played another 76 majors between ages 42 to like age 65 or something lol


https://c.tenor.com/FUItMRhUz3sAAAAC/chapelle-charlie-murphy.gif



jack = wilt/MJ/Kareem/Russell combined



/thread

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 09:32 PM
here tiger woods report card

whats with all the white and guy in tigers prime years?


https://i.ibb.co/nm976HY/Screen-Shot-2022-02-09-at-8-30-57-PM.png



why no solid bricks of green and yellow like jack


jacks prime >>>>>>>>>> tiger.. your only argument is finished LMAO

ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 09:33 PM
your only argument is finished LMAO

That wasn't even the argument. You just created that :lol

Is 2000 Tiger Woods the Golf Goat? Was the question. And it's hard to deny that. As in this particular stretch he was playing the best golf that anyone ever has.

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 09:38 PM
Is 2000 Tiger Woods the Golf Goat? Hard to deny that.



jack = jordan, kareem, wilt, russell

tiger = 94 hakeem


https://c.tenor.com/P-7rbtEMTaYAAAAM/nwo-scotthall.gif

great year kid

ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 09:46 PM
jack = jordan, kareem, wilt, russell

tiger = 94 hakeem


https://c.tenor.com/P-7rbtEMTaYAAAAM/nwo-scotthall.gif

great year kid

Probably more like 86 bird/71 Kareem/91 Jordan combined, was that year. But a little disingenuous to act like it was JUST that one year. Considering he’s won 15 majors and more overall tournaments than anyone ever.

If we’re actually being real Tigers peak was absolutely the golf equivalent of 90s Jordan when you combine talent, dominance, magic moments, and being an overall phenomenon. The parallels are very striking.

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 10:09 PM
Probably more like 86 bird/71 Kareem/91 Jordan combined, was that year. But a little disingenuous to act like it was JUST that one year. Considering he’s won 15 majors and more overall tournaments than anyone ever.

If we’re actually being real Tigers peak was absolutely the golf equivalent of 90s Jordan when you combine talent, dominance, magic moments, and being an overall phenomenon. The parallels are very striking.

na tiger just has a single year that's better. 90s jordan is known for having the best individual decade

which is jack in the 70s by far


so jack has the best prime and best career with the most records


tiger was a 1 year wonder but overall he was kind of an underachiever when he wasn't winning. it's almost like if he wasn't in the running he would quit


in fact.. he reminds me a lot of lebron except never getting the all time records for anything lol

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 10:12 PM
remember when tiger quit that tournament and got in his car and sped off and they filmed it like that OJ Simpson chase lmao

totally a lebron maneuver

ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 10:26 PM
na tiger just has a single year that's better. 90s jordan is known for having the best individual decade

which is jack in the 70s by far


so jack has the best prime and best career with the most records


tiger was a 1 year wonder but overall he was kind of an underachiever when he wasn't winning. it's almost like if he wasn't in the running he would quit


in fact.. he reminds me a lot of lebron except never getting the all time records for anything lol

That’s such a weird thing to say about someone who’s won more tournaments than anyone ever.

You also have to consider the talent pool though. I think in the 70s the top 5 guys would typically win close to 20% of all tournaments. In the 2000s is was closer to 10%. So the odds of a top 10 are greater at that time, even if a win was perhaps more difficult because the top 5 in the 70s was probably better.

All in all it’s really tough to compare, particularly because their styles were so different too. I wouldn’t say Tiger quit when he was down (as much as I know you were dying to throw the Lebron comparison). He had more of a Ricky Bobby mentality in that if he wasn’t in a great position to win he’d gradually take more risky shots, and if those wouldn’t work out it’d obviously hurt his top 5 and top 10 chances he probably could have otherwise had. Nicklaus typically played the course no matter what position he was in.

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 10:30 PM
That’s such a weird thing to say about someone who’s won more tournaments than anyone ever.

You also have to consider the talent pool though. I think in the 70s the top 5 guys would typically win close to 20% of all tournaments. In the 2000s is was closer to 10%. So the odds of a top 10 are greater at that time, even if a win was perhaps more difficult because the top 5 in the 70s was probably better.

All in all it’s really tough to compare, particularly because their styles were so different too. I wouldn’t say Tiger quit when he was down (as much as I know you were dying to throw the Lebron comparison). He had more of a Ricky Bobby mentality in that if he wasn’t in a great position to win he’d gradually take more risky shots, and if those wouldn’t work out it’d obviously hurt his top 5 and top 10 chances he probably could have otherwise had. Nicklaus typically played the course no matter what position he was in.

compared to jack he's a one year wonder

and nobody cares about non majors. that's like winning a summer league title or Euroleague shit... you only count the tournaments when all the best golfers participate.. not a couple of them or zero. I've tried watching regular tournaments and I legit didn't recognize anyone

SouBeachTalents
02-09-2022, 10:52 PM
I wonder if Kenny just makes up retarded arguments for the fun of it, or if he somehow believes what he actually says.

One year wonder? '02 is as good of a year as any golfer has ever had, and his '05-'08 streak was better than any of Nicklaus'.

14 majors
6 wins
4 2nd place finishes
Another top 3 & top 4

14 majors and he finished top 4 in 12 of them, top 2 in 10, winning nearly half :lol And keep in mind, he had to miss the last 2 majors in '08 due to injury, so he did all that in 3.5 years. So yeah, not that far off from his 2000 level.

Nicklaus is the GOAT, but Tiger's 2000-08 is the GOAT peak, one which will honestly never be topped.

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 11:16 PM
I wonder if Kenny just makes up retarded arguments for the fun of it, or if he somehow believes what he actually says.



https://youtu.be/vn_PSJsl0LQ



the best trolls are the ones that are completely serious

so are we really trolls. or just picking our spots wisely

warriorfan
02-10-2022, 02:02 AM
I wonder if Kenny just makes up retarded arguments for the fun of it, or if he somehow believes what he actually says.

One year wonder? '02 is as good of a year as any golfer has ever had, and his '05-'08 streak was better than any of Nicklaus'.

14 majors
6 wins
4 2nd place finishes
Another top 3 & top 4

14 majors and he finished top 4 in 12 of them, top 2 in 10, winning nearly half :lol And keep in mind, he had to miss the last 2 majors in '08 due to injury, so he did all that in 3.5 years. So yeah, not that far off from his 2000 level.

Nicklaus is the GOAT, but Tiger's 2000-08 is the GOAT peak, one which will honestly never be topped.

He just bought a Tiger Woods rookie card and is making bad arguments against him on purpose to drive up the value.

The hustle is real.

John_Connor
02-10-2022, 02:03 AM
He just bought a Tiger Woods rookie card and is making bad arguments against him on purpose to drive up the value.

The hustle is real.

his rookie is only worth like 100$. it's not worth buying

ShawkFactory
02-10-2022, 09:58 AM
compared to jack he's a one year wonder

and nobody cares about non majors. that's like winning a summer league title or Euroleague shit... you only count the tournaments when all the best golfers participate.. not a couple of them or zero. I've tried watching regular tournaments and I legit didn't recognize anyone

This is true for some of the more obscure ones, but do you really think Tiger was playing in those? There are plenty of non majors that all of the big boys play in. The Fedex and Players Tournaments have a larger purse than any major. The Genesis, Arnold Palmer, and Memorial invitational winners also makes more than the Masters winner. And a lot of these big non majors also help determine to tour champion, who makes 18 million.

They matter.

Honor Boost
02-10-2022, 11:50 PM
That wasn't even the argument. You just created that :lol

Is 2000 Tiger Woods the Golf Goat? Was the question. And it's hard to deny that. As in this particular stretch he was playing the best golf that anyone ever has.


jc doesnt get it

t woods pga avg is lowest of all time ever

he has top 7 lowest avg with 2000 as goat peak record

Honor Boost
02-10-2022, 11:52 PM
na tiger just has a single year that's better. 90s jordan is known for having the best individual decade

which is jack in the 70s by far


so jack has the best prime and best career with the most records


tiger was a 1 year wonder but overall he was kind of an underachiever when he wasn't winning. it's almost like if he wasn't in the running he would quit


in fact.. he reminds me a lot of lebron except never getting the all time records for anything lol

70s jack didnt have 2000 t woods #s

show me jc

Honor Boost
02-11-2022, 03:22 AM
Heres a putt ...

91 feet

T woods


https://youtu.be/HzZnAIZlEnE

tontoz
02-11-2022, 01:40 PM
1980 was the first year they kept stats on tour. At age 40 Jack was number 1 in GIR in spite of playing a limited schedule on tough courses. He was number 1 in total driving by a mile. Nobody else was in the same zip code.

Jack was a fluke chip in away from his version of the slam. He won the PGA in '71, Masters and US Open in '72. He was making a run at the British Open in '72, going low on Sunday chasing Trevino. Trevino holed a chip from well off the green (a "give up" shot in his words) on the 71st hole to beat Jack by 1.

Personally i dont feel the need to pick who was better between Jack/Tiger, the same stance i have with Lebron/Jordan.

If we are talking about individual years Hogan in '53, Bobby Jones in 1930 and Byron Nelson in '45 have to get mentions.

TheCorporation
02-11-2022, 10:37 PM
Tiger = Goat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJEysanOT7w

Jasper
08-08-2022, 09:39 AM
here is a taylor made interview with him : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akGp0Q8NJms

2018 ish ??

amazing testing 60 drivers to look for the perfect feel. (mind plowing) lol

The Hick
08-08-2022, 10:57 AM
Tiger was like Jordan, better peak. Jack was like Lebron, better career. Now imagine if Jordan had otc problems (ok let's check that box) and injuries limiting him to less rings than Lebron. Lebron would then be the undisputed GOAT

AirBonner
08-08-2022, 07:31 PM
No. Current John Daley. Guy just doesn’t give a fvxk :pimp:

Honor Boost
08-13-2022, 10:11 AM
I wonder if Kenny just makes up retarded arguments for the fun of it, or if he somehow believes what he actually says.

One year wonder? '02 is as good of a year as any golfer has ever had, and his '05-'08 streak was better than any of Nicklaus'.

14 majors
6 wins
4 2nd place finishes
Another top 3 & top 4

14 majors and he finished top 4 in 12 of them, top 2 in 10, winning nearly half :lol And keep in mind, he had to miss the last 2 majors in '08 due to injury, so he did all that in 3.5 years. So yeah, not that far off from his 2000 level.

Nicklaus is the GOAT, but Tiger's 2000-08 is the GOAT peak, one which will honestly never be topped.

Tiger also held the #1 spot the longest of all times consecutively. I think i read it was 300 weeks straight at #1.

Honor Boost
08-13-2022, 10:14 AM
Tiger = Goat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJEysanOT7w

Chills everytime

Nanners
08-16-2022, 07:37 AM
I think Ben Hogan deserves a mention... I dunno if I would call him the GOAT but theres no doubt he has a bit of an argument in his favor. While doesnt have as many accolades as Nicklaus or Tiger, that is partially because he played in a VERY different era, and partially because he missed out on several of his prime years due to things like WW2 and a horrific car crash.

Hogans win rate in the majors was 19% (9 wins in 16 attempts), which is one of the greatest of all time (Tigers win rate is 22% while Jack was at 15%). What makes Hogans win rate truly crazy tho, is the fact that unlike Tiger and Jack he was not a very good golfer for the first decade of his career - he started playing professionally in 1930 but he didnt win his first major until 1946. The reason Hogans win rate is so high is because from 1948 to 1953 he absolutely dominated, winning 8 of the 11 majors he participated in, a feat that is even more preposterous considering his near fatal car wreck was in 1949... and im not kidding when I say the wreck was near fatal, his car collided head-on with a greyhound bus, and he broke his pelvis, collarbone, several ribs, and his right leg was broken in several places (including multiple breaks of the same bone). Lots of the doctors thought Hogan would never walk again after that wreck, yet he not only walked again but somehow went on to win 6 majors in 9 attempts between 1950 and 1953.

Anyway the reason Hogan went from being a below average pro golfer to the most dominant in the world is because he was obsessed with swing mechanics, and over time he developed a swing that was so pure that ~80 years later its still widely considered the gold standard of golf swings. If you go to your local course and take a golf lesson from their pro, they are almost certainly going to be teaching you mechanics that were developed by Hogan or based on his ideas. This swing is another one of his arguments for GOAT imo, because of that swing Hogan has had more of an impact on the game of golf than any other player ever. Tiger got lots of people interested in golf for the first time, but when those people went out to take their first golf lesson they werent learning Tigers swing, they were learning Hogans.