View Full Version : Is 2000 Tiger Woods the Golf Goat?
Honor Boost
02-08-2022, 01:21 PM
Also what is your favourite course to play?
John_Connor
02-08-2022, 03:06 PM
the golden bear played with these
https://i.ibb.co/Xj83KMT/Screenshot-20220208-140011-Google.jpg
tiger woods and other golfers since the late 90s have been playing with clubs like these
https://i.ibb.co/Czqrnjj/Screenshot-20220208-140251-Google.jpg
give me the guy that can hit 12 under par with a rake and a walking stick
Bronbron23
02-08-2022, 11:42 PM
the golden bear played with these
https://i.ibb.co/Xj83KMT/Screenshot-20220208-140011-Google.jpg
tiger woods and other golfers since the late 90s have been playing with clubs like these
https://i.ibb.co/Czqrnjj/Screenshot-20220208-140251-Google.jpg
give me the guy that can hit 12 under par with a rake and a walking stick
Probably. He's the goat period imo. He lost a bunch of time to injuries and the scandal bur tiger the best to ever play the game imo. Jack was a problem too though from what i hear.
John_Connor
02-08-2022, 11:46 PM
Probably. He's the goat period imo. He lost a bunch of time to injuries and the scandal bur tiger the best to ever play the game imo. Jack was a problem too though from what i hear.
tiger woods was not better than Jack
https://youtu.be/u9KrMQDU94g
Bronbron23
02-08-2022, 11:50 PM
tiger woods was not better than Jack
https://youtu.be/u9KrMQDU94g
Won't argue it. Jack was apparently ridiculous also and i never seen him play like i did tiger so i really can't say. That putt was btw.
Honor Boost
02-09-2022, 02:32 PM
mhmm but Tiger W. Has the record for lowest average in pga history
under 68.6 pga tour avg only happened seven times ever....
all by tiger
no one else
2021 Jon Rahm, 69.300
2020 Webb Simpson, 68.978
2019 Rory McIlroy, 69.057
2018 Dustin Johnson, 68.698
2017 Jordan Spieth, 68.846
2016 Dustin Johnson, 69.172
2015 Jordan Spieth, 68.938
2014 Rory McIlroy, 68.827
2013 Steve Stricker, 68.945
2012 Rory McIlroy, 68.873
2011 Luke Donald, 68.86
2010 Matt Kuchar, 69.61
2009 Tiger Woods, 68.05
2008 Sergio Garcia, 69.12
2007 Tiger Woods, 67.79
2006 Tiger Woods, 68.11
2005 Tiger Woods, 68.66
2004 Vijay Singh, 68.84
2003 Tiger Woods, 68.41
2002 Tiger Woods, 68.56
2001 Tiger Woods, 68.81
2000 Tiger Woods, 67.79
1999 Tiger Woods, 68.43
1998 David Duval, 69.13
1997 Nick Price, 68.98
1996 Tom Lehman, 69.32
1995 Greg Norman, 69.06
1994 Greg Norman, 68.81
1993 Greg Norman, 68.90
1992 Fred Couples, 69.38
1991 Fred Couples, 69.59
1990 Greg Norman, 69.10
1989 Greg Norman, 69.49
1988 Greg Norman, 69.38
1987 David Frost, 70.09
1986 Scott Hoch, 70.08
1985 Don Pooley, 70.36
1984 Calvin Peete, 70.56
1983 Raymond Floyd, 70.61
1982 Tom Kite, 70.21
1981 Tom Kite, 69.80
1980 Lee Trevino, 69.73
2000 tiger = 67.79
2007 tiger = 67.79
2009 tiger = 68.05
2006 tiger = 68.11
2003 tiger = 68.41
1999 tiger = 68.43
2002 tiger = 68.56
the 7 lowest ever averages are all tiger
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 03:08 PM
mhmm but Tiger W. Has the record for lowest average in pga history
under 68.6 pga tour avg only happened seven times ever....
all by tiger
no one else
2021 Jon Rahm, 69.300
2020 Webb Simpson, 68.978
2019 Rory McIlroy, 69.057
2018 Dustin Johnson, 68.698
2017 Jordan Spieth, 68.846
2016 Dustin Johnson, 69.172
2015 Jordan Spieth, 68.938
2014 Rory McIlroy, 68.827
2013 Steve Stricker, 68.945
2012 Rory McIlroy, 68.873
2011 Luke Donald, 68.86
2010 Matt Kuchar, 69.61
2009 Tiger Woods, 68.05
2008 Sergio Garcia, 69.12
2007 Tiger Woods, 67.79
2006 Tiger Woods, 68.11
2005 Tiger Woods, 68.66
2004 Vijay Singh, 68.84
2003 Tiger Woods, 68.41
2002 Tiger Woods, 68.56
2001 Tiger Woods, 68.81
2000 Tiger Woods, 67.79
1999 Tiger Woods, 68.43
1998 David Duval, 69.13
1997 Nick Price, 68.98
1996 Tom Lehman, 69.32
1995 Greg Norman, 69.06
1994 Greg Norman, 68.81
1993 Greg Norman, 68.90
1992 Fred Couples, 69.38
1991 Fred Couples, 69.59
1990 Greg Norman, 69.10
1989 Greg Norman, 69.49
1988 Greg Norman, 69.38
1987 David Frost, 70.09
1986 Scott Hoch, 70.08
1985 Don Pooley, 70.36
1984 Calvin Peete, 70.56
1983 Raymond Floyd, 70.61
1982 Tom Kite, 70.21
1981 Tom Kite, 69.80
1980 Lee Trevino, 69.73
2000 tiger = 67.79
2007 tiger = 67.79
2009 tiger = 68.05
2006 tiger = 68.11
2003 tiger = 68.41
1999 tiger = 68.43
2002 tiger = 68.56
the 7 lowest ever averages are all tiger
I bet 50 guys today can hit the ball farther than Jack ever could too lol
and? the guy played with fire poker
ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 04:21 PM
the golden bear played with these
https://i.ibb.co/Xj83KMT/Screenshot-20220208-140011-Google.jpg
tiger woods and other golfers since the late 90s have been playing with clubs like these
https://i.ibb.co/Czqrnjj/Screenshot-20220208-140251-Google.jpg
give me the guy that can hit 12 under par with a rake and a walking stick
Everyone played with the same clubs in their era.
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 04:29 PM
Everyone played with the same clubs in their era.
yeah and tigers the best of his era. and he has a claim over guys competing today that have drivers and balls that can go 400 yards easy
its like saying a race car driver today got faster lap times than a guy from the 60s and 70s.. no shit
these statistical measurements aren't comparable between eras. only majors are and overall wins
SouBeachTalents
02-09-2022, 04:32 PM
Nicklaus is the GOAT based off having the all time record and having a very lengthy career. But Tiger unquestionably had the greatest peak in the sports history. He was winning majors at nearly the rate of a Fed/Nadal/Djokovic, in a sport where it’s exponentially more difficult to do so.
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 04:44 PM
Nicklaus is the GOAT based off having the all time record and having a very lengthy career. But Tiger unquestionably had the greatest peak in the sports history. He was winning majors at nearly the rate of a Fed/Nadal/Djokovic, in a sport where it’s exponentially more difficult to do so.
I think he was on roids though which gave tiger a huge advantage. then when other guys got strong tiger couldn't win anything for a while
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 04:51 PM
like no wonder tiger was dominant for a while. his competition all had dad bods
https://i.ibb.co/Mnjztkw/Screenshot-20220209-154714-Gallery.jpg
ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 04:55 PM
yeah and tigers the best of his era. and he has a claim over guys competing today that have drivers and balls that can go 400 yards easy
its like saying a race car driver today got faster lap times than a guy from the 60s and 70s.. no shit
You clearly don’t know much about this. Yes, the equipment has gotten better and yes..guys are driving the ball now way farther. Yet somehow, average scores haven’t changed all that much. Why do you think that is?
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 04:59 PM
You clearly don’t know much about this. Yes, the equipment has gotten better and yes..guys are driving the ball now way farther. Yet somehow, average scores haven’t changed all that much. Why do you think that is?
guys today are more about driving the long ball than practicing the short game. I've watched tons of golf and back in the day every put was super close and when they missed it was like a hair off. and the drives were safe hits. today guys are shanking it left and right every time and putting it past the hole 7 feet or more. it's a joke. guys are ripping drives like those long ball hitters with the most ridiculous swings. it's so ugly to watch. I remember the last masters I think the guy on the last hole that won nearly choked and shanked every shot on 18. it was just sad. golf isn't even worth a damn anymore
I watched full length matches since the early 90s
the old days was waaaaaaay more polished and respectful. it was classy. now it's Adam Sandler video game type trash
ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 05:18 PM
guys today are more about driving the long ball than practicing the short game. I've watched tons of golf and back in the day every put was super close and when they missed it was like a hair off. and the drives were safe hits. today guys are shanking it left and right every time and putting it past the hole 7 feet or more. it's a joke. guys are ripping drives like those long ball hitters with the most ridiculous swings. it's so ugly to watch. I remember the last masters I think the guy on the last hole that won nearly choked and shanked every shot on 18. it was just sad. golf isn't even worth a damn anymore
I watched full length matches since the early 90s
the old days was waaaaaaay more polished and respectful. it was classy. now it's Adam Sandler video game type trash
Ok so you AREN’T aware that Augusta is about 500 yards longer now than it was in 1990? Most courses are way longer than they used to be. Augusta is on the conservative end for obvious reasons.
Newer courses are also narrower than they used to be.
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 05:25 PM
Ok so you ARENT aware that Augusta is about 500 yards longer now than it was in 1990? Most courses are way longer than they used to be. Augusta is on the conservative end for obvious reasons.
Newer courses are also narrower than they used to be.
oh no not 27 yards more per hole. what will I ever do with my driver and ball that goes 100 yards more since the ones from 1990
Honor Boost
02-09-2022, 06:22 PM
Ok so you ARENT aware that Augusta is about 500 yards longer now than it was in 1990? Most courses are way longer than they used to be. Augusta is on the conservative end for obvious reasons.
Newer courses are also narrower than they used to be.
preach it
Honor Boost
02-09-2022, 06:23 PM
oh no not 27 yards more per hole. what will I ever do with my driver and ball that goes 100 yards more since the ones from 1990
a long drive is not everything by your own admission or else jack wouldnt be top tier ??
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 07:16 PM
a long drive is not everything by your own admission or else jack wouldnt be top tier ??
yeah but guys have way more room for error now. back in the day you couldn't afford to shank it. now you can cause you're right beside the green and chipping 100 yards out of the rough is way easier than doing it 200 yards out of the rough
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 07:39 PM
Jack has
- 18 major championships
- 19 second place finishes at majors
- 53 top 5 finishes at majors
- 73 top 10 finishes at majors
Tiger has
- 15 major championships
- 7 second place finishes in majors
- 14 top 5 finishes in majors
- 25 top 10 finishes in majors
tiger shoulda got this VHS and practiced more
https://youtu.be/NPcDm0fvrl0
SouBeachTalents
02-09-2022, 08:15 PM
I think he was on roids though which gave tiger a huge advantage. then when other guys got strong tiger couldn't win anything for a while
Lmao, you're just going to attribute everybody's success to steroids now. Even golfers :lol
ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 08:18 PM
oh no not 27 yards more per hole. what will I ever do with my driver and ball that goes 100 yards more since the ones from 1990
On average, pro tour guys drive the ball around 32-34 yards more than they did in 1990.
Again..given that it's an iconic course, the distance of Augusta has changed on the conservative side. Most old school courses are longer than that and newer ones aren't even close to what they used to be.
With increased distance inevitably comes decreased accuracy though. This is true in any sporting event. So there's trade-offs to driving the ball further.
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 08:47 PM
Lmao, you're just going to attribute everybody's success to steroids now. Even golfers :lol
if someone's way more jacked than anyone that ever played or playing at a level nobodies ever seen or playing longer than anyone's ever seen then you gotta at the very least question it
but it's of no importance now that I've posted both guys major championships finishes. it's not even close like most people thought. it's only a debate if you just compare majors. when you compare all their finishes it's jack by a mile
I'm done here
ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 08:49 PM
Jack has played in 164 majors. Tiger 87.
Not really fair to compare. But wasn't the thread about Tiger in 2000? His stretch from 98 to 08 is easily the most dominant decade the sport has seen. Jack gets him on longevity.
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 08:55 PM
Jack has played in 164 majors. Tiger 87.
Not really fair to compare. But wasn't the thread about Tiger in 2000? His stretch from 98 to 08 is easily the most dominant decade the sport has seen. Jack gets him on longevity.
no it's actually quite fair because longevity is part of being the goat and twice as many majors with 3 times as many top 10s, 4 times as many top 5 finishes and more than twice as many 2nd place finishes shows he was more consistent than tiger
so he has consistency and longevity over tiger.
at best you can argue peak play. but that isn't what makes the goat. this is basically a michael jordan Kareem hybrid being compared to wilt
its not up for debate
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 09:02 PM
and btw jack hurt his per major win/ place finishes ratio by playing in 160+ tbh cause I remember a lot of times he would show up in his 40s and 50s I believe just as like a tribute to him. he went in knowing he would lose lol.. and yet he still had a way higher ratio of top 5/10 finishes than tiger
I think he even won a masters tournament at age 46
ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 09:04 PM
no it's actually quite fair because longevity is part of being the goat and twice as many majors with 3 times as many top 10s, 4 times as many top 5 finishes and more than twice as many 2nd place finishes shows he was more consistent than tiger
so he has consistency and longevity over tiger.
at best you can argue peak play. but that isn't what makes the goat. this is basically a michael jordan Kareem hybrid being compared to wilt
its not up for debate
It's clear that you haven't ever had an intelligent conversation about golf before :lol
By the way your numbers are way wrong. Tiger has 31 top 5s in majors and 38 tops 10s. You didn't include his wins as a top 5 or a top 10 but you did for Nicklaus.
So of the majors entered Nicklaus won 10.9% of them, was top 5 in 32.3%, and top 10 in 44.5%. For Tiger those numbers are 17.2%, 35.6%, and 43.6%.
So yea...Jack has the longevity.
But this wasn't about longevity it was about 2000 Tiger being the greatest version of a golfer the sport has ever seen. It's hard to deny that it was. Tiger was Jordan; Jack maybe a Russell and Kareem hybrid?
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 09:23 PM
It's clear that you haven't ever had an intelligent conversation about golf before :lol
By the way your numbers are way wrong. Tiger has 31 top 5s in majors and 38 tops 10s. You didn't include his wins as a top 5 or a top 10 but you did for Nicklaus.
So of the majors entered Nicklaus won 10.9% of them, was top 5 in 32.3%, and top 10 in 44.5%. For Tiger those numbers are 17.2%, 35.6%, and 43.6%.
So yea...Jack has the longevity.
But this wasn't about longevity it was about 2000 Tiger being the greatest version of a golfer the sport has ever seen. It's hard to deny that it was. Tiger was Jordan; Jack maybe a Russell and Kareem hybrid?
this right here is the end all be all in this joke of a debate
https://i.ibb.co/SVHGs7n/Screen-Shot-2022-02-09-at-8-16-55-PM.png
had jack nicklaus not showed up past age 41 he would still have more majors than tiger and basically a 90% top 10 finish ratio
but he stuck around as a celebration to the sport and played another 76 majors between ages 42 to like age 65 or something lol
https://c.tenor.com/FUItMRhUz3sAAAAC/chapelle-charlie-murphy.gif
jack = wilt/MJ/Kareem/Russell combined
/thread
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 09:32 PM
here tiger woods report card
whats with all the white and guy in tigers prime years?
https://i.ibb.co/nm976HY/Screen-Shot-2022-02-09-at-8-30-57-PM.png
why no solid bricks of green and yellow like jack
jacks prime >>>>>>>>>> tiger.. your only argument is finished LMAO
ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 09:33 PM
your only argument is finished LMAO
That wasn't even the argument. You just created that :lol
Is 2000 Tiger Woods the Golf Goat? Was the question. And it's hard to deny that. As in this particular stretch he was playing the best golf that anyone ever has.
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 09:38 PM
Is 2000 Tiger Woods the Golf Goat? Hard to deny that.
jack = jordan, kareem, wilt, russell
tiger = 94 hakeem
https://c.tenor.com/P-7rbtEMTaYAAAAM/nwo-scotthall.gif
great year kid
ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 09:46 PM
jack = jordan, kareem, wilt, russell
tiger = 94 hakeem
https://c.tenor.com/P-7rbtEMTaYAAAAM/nwo-scotthall.gif
great year kid
Probably more like 86 bird/71 Kareem/91 Jordan combined, was that year. But a little disingenuous to act like it was JUST that one year. Considering hes won 15 majors and more overall tournaments than anyone ever.
If were actually being real Tigers peak was absolutely the golf equivalent of 90s Jordan when you combine talent, dominance, magic moments, and being an overall phenomenon. The parallels are very striking.
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 10:09 PM
Probably more like 86 bird/71 Kareem/91 Jordan combined, was that year. But a little disingenuous to act like it was JUST that one year. Considering hes won 15 majors and more overall tournaments than anyone ever.
If were actually being real Tigers peak was absolutely the golf equivalent of 90s Jordan when you combine talent, dominance, magic moments, and being an overall phenomenon. The parallels are very striking.
na tiger just has a single year that's better. 90s jordan is known for having the best individual decade
which is jack in the 70s by far
so jack has the best prime and best career with the most records
tiger was a 1 year wonder but overall he was kind of an underachiever when he wasn't winning. it's almost like if he wasn't in the running he would quit
in fact.. he reminds me a lot of lebron except never getting the all time records for anything lol
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 10:12 PM
remember when tiger quit that tournament and got in his car and sped off and they filmed it like that OJ Simpson chase lmao
totally a lebron maneuver
ShawkFactory
02-09-2022, 10:26 PM
na tiger just has a single year that's better. 90s jordan is known for having the best individual decade
which is jack in the 70s by far
so jack has the best prime and best career with the most records
tiger was a 1 year wonder but overall he was kind of an underachiever when he wasn't winning. it's almost like if he wasn't in the running he would quit
in fact.. he reminds me a lot of lebron except never getting the all time records for anything lol
That’s such a weird thing to say about someone who’s won more tournaments than anyone ever.
You also have to consider the talent pool though. I think in the 70s the top 5 guys would typically win close to 20% of all tournaments. In the 2000s is was closer to 10%. So the odds of a top 10 are greater at that time, even if a win was perhaps more difficult because the top 5 in the 70s was probably better.
All in all it’s really tough to compare, particularly because their styles were so different too. I wouldn’t say Tiger quit when he was down (as much as I know you were dying to throw the Lebron comparison). He had more of a Ricky Bobby mentality in that if he wasn’t in a great position to win he’d gradually take more risky shots, and if those wouldn’t work out it’d obviously hurt his top 5 and top 10 chances he probably could have otherwise had. Nicklaus typically played the course no matter what position he was in.
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 10:30 PM
That’s such a weird thing to say about someone who’s won more tournaments than anyone ever.
You also have to consider the talent pool though. I think in the 70s the top 5 guys would typically win close to 20% of all tournaments. In the 2000s is was closer to 10%. So the odds of a top 10 are greater at that time, even if a win was perhaps more difficult because the top 5 in the 70s was probably better.
All in all it’s really tough to compare, particularly because their styles were so different too. I wouldn’t say Tiger quit when he was down (as much as I know you were dying to throw the Lebron comparison). He had more of a Ricky Bobby mentality in that if he wasn’t in a great position to win he’d gradually take more risky shots, and if those wouldn’t work out it’d obviously hurt his top 5 and top 10 chances he probably could have otherwise had. Nicklaus typically played the course no matter what position he was in.
compared to jack he's a one year wonder
and nobody cares about non majors. that's like winning a summer league title or Euroleague shit... you only count the tournaments when all the best golfers participate.. not a couple of them or zero. I've tried watching regular tournaments and I legit didn't recognize anyone
SouBeachTalents
02-09-2022, 10:52 PM
I wonder if Kenny just makes up retarded arguments for the fun of it, or if he somehow believes what he actually says.
One year wonder? '02 is as good of a year as any golfer has ever had, and his '05-'08 streak was better than any of Nicklaus'.
14 majors
6 wins
4 2nd place finishes
Another top 3 & top 4
14 majors and he finished top 4 in 12 of them, top 2 in 10, winning nearly half :lol And keep in mind, he had to miss the last 2 majors in '08 due to injury, so he did all that in 3.5 years. So yeah, not that far off from his 2000 level.
Nicklaus is the GOAT, but Tiger's 2000-08 is the GOAT peak, one which will honestly never be topped.
John_Connor
02-09-2022, 11:16 PM
I wonder if Kenny just makes up retarded arguments for the fun of it, or if he somehow believes what he actually says.
https://youtu.be/vn_PSJsl0LQ
the best trolls are the ones that are completely serious
so are we really trolls. or just picking our spots wisely
warriorfan
02-10-2022, 02:02 AM
I wonder if Kenny just makes up retarded arguments for the fun of it, or if he somehow believes what he actually says.
One year wonder? '02 is as good of a year as any golfer has ever had, and his '05-'08 streak was better than any of Nicklaus'.
14 majors
6 wins
4 2nd place finishes
Another top 3 & top 4
14 majors and he finished top 4 in 12 of them, top 2 in 10, winning nearly half :lol And keep in mind, he had to miss the last 2 majors in '08 due to injury, so he did all that in 3.5 years. So yeah, not that far off from his 2000 level.
Nicklaus is the GOAT, but Tiger's 2000-08 is the GOAT peak, one which will honestly never be topped.
He just bought a Tiger Woods rookie card and is making bad arguments against him on purpose to drive up the value.
The hustle is real.
John_Connor
02-10-2022, 02:03 AM
He just bought a Tiger Woods rookie card and is making bad arguments against him on purpose to drive up the value.
The hustle is real.
his rookie is only worth like 100$. it's not worth buying
ShawkFactory
02-10-2022, 09:58 AM
compared to jack he's a one year wonder
and nobody cares about non majors. that's like winning a summer league title or Euroleague shit... you only count the tournaments when all the best golfers participate.. not a couple of them or zero. I've tried watching regular tournaments and I legit didn't recognize anyone
This is true for some of the more obscure ones, but do you really think Tiger was playing in those? There are plenty of non majors that all of the big boys play in. The Fedex and Players Tournaments have a larger purse than any major. The Genesis, Arnold Palmer, and Memorial invitational winners also makes more than the Masters winner. And a lot of these big non majors also help determine to tour champion, who makes 18 million.
They matter.
Honor Boost
02-10-2022, 11:50 PM
That wasn't even the argument. You just created that :lol
Is 2000 Tiger Woods the Golf Goat? Was the question. And it's hard to deny that. As in this particular stretch he was playing the best golf that anyone ever has.
jc doesnt get it
t woods pga avg is lowest of all time ever
he has top 7 lowest avg with 2000 as goat peak record
Honor Boost
02-10-2022, 11:52 PM
na tiger just has a single year that's better. 90s jordan is known for having the best individual decade
which is jack in the 70s by far
so jack has the best prime and best career with the most records
tiger was a 1 year wonder but overall he was kind of an underachiever when he wasn't winning. it's almost like if he wasn't in the running he would quit
in fact.. he reminds me a lot of lebron except never getting the all time records for anything lol
70s jack didnt have 2000 t woods #s
show me jc
Honor Boost
02-11-2022, 03:22 AM
Heres a putt ...
91 feet
T woods
https://youtu.be/HzZnAIZlEnE
tontoz
02-11-2022, 01:40 PM
1980 was the first year they kept stats on tour. At age 40 Jack was number 1 in GIR in spite of playing a limited schedule on tough courses. He was number 1 in total driving by a mile. Nobody else was in the same zip code.
Jack was a fluke chip in away from his version of the slam. He won the PGA in '71, Masters and US Open in '72. He was making a run at the British Open in '72, going low on Sunday chasing Trevino. Trevino holed a chip from well off the green (a "give up" shot in his words) on the 71st hole to beat Jack by 1.
Personally i dont feel the need to pick who was better between Jack/Tiger, the same stance i have with Lebron/Jordan.
If we are talking about individual years Hogan in '53, Bobby Jones in 1930 and Byron Nelson in '45 have to get mentions.
TheCorporation
02-11-2022, 10:37 PM
Tiger = Goat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJEysanOT7w
Jasper
08-08-2022, 09:39 AM
here is a taylor made interview with him : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akGp0Q8NJms
2018 ish ??
amazing testing 60 drivers to look for the perfect feel. (mind plowing) lol
The Hick
08-08-2022, 10:57 AM
Tiger was like Jordan, better peak. Jack was like Lebron, better career. Now imagine if Jordan had otc problems (ok let's check that box) and injuries limiting him to less rings than Lebron. Lebron would then be the undisputed GOAT
AirBonner
08-08-2022, 07:31 PM
No. Current John Daley. Guy just doesnt give a fvxk :pimp:
Honor Boost
08-13-2022, 10:11 AM
I wonder if Kenny just makes up retarded arguments for the fun of it, or if he somehow believes what he actually says.
One year wonder? '02 is as good of a year as any golfer has ever had, and his '05-'08 streak was better than any of Nicklaus'.
14 majors
6 wins
4 2nd place finishes
Another top 3 & top 4
14 majors and he finished top 4 in 12 of them, top 2 in 10, winning nearly half :lol And keep in mind, he had to miss the last 2 majors in '08 due to injury, so he did all that in 3.5 years. So yeah, not that far off from his 2000 level.
Nicklaus is the GOAT, but Tiger's 2000-08 is the GOAT peak, one which will honestly never be topped.
Tiger also held the #1 spot the longest of all times consecutively. I think i read it was 300 weeks straight at #1.
Honor Boost
08-13-2022, 10:14 AM
Tiger = Goat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJEysanOT7w
Chills everytime
Nanners
08-16-2022, 07:37 AM
I think Ben Hogan deserves a mention... I dunno if I would call him the GOAT but theres no doubt he has a bit of an argument in his favor. While doesnt have as many accolades as Nicklaus or Tiger, that is partially because he played in a VERY different era, and partially because he missed out on several of his prime years due to things like WW2 and a horrific car crash.
Hogans win rate in the majors was 19% (9 wins in 16 attempts), which is one of the greatest of all time (Tigers win rate is 22% while Jack was at 15%). What makes Hogans win rate truly crazy tho, is the fact that unlike Tiger and Jack he was not a very good golfer for the first decade of his career - he started playing professionally in 1930 but he didnt win his first major until 1946. The reason Hogans win rate is so high is because from 1948 to 1953 he absolutely dominated, winning 8 of the 11 majors he participated in, a feat that is even more preposterous considering his near fatal car wreck was in 1949... and im not kidding when I say the wreck was near fatal, his car collided head-on with a greyhound bus, and he broke his pelvis, collarbone, several ribs, and his right leg was broken in several places (including multiple breaks of the same bone). Lots of the doctors thought Hogan would never walk again after that wreck, yet he not only walked again but somehow went on to win 6 majors in 9 attempts between 1950 and 1953.
Anyway the reason Hogan went from being a below average pro golfer to the most dominant in the world is because he was obsessed with swing mechanics, and over time he developed a swing that was so pure that ~80 years later its still widely considered the gold standard of golf swings. If you go to your local course and take a golf lesson from their pro, they are almost certainly going to be teaching you mechanics that were developed by Hogan or based on his ideas. This swing is another one of his arguments for GOAT imo, because of that swing Hogan has had more of an impact on the game of golf than any other player ever. Tiger got lots of people interested in golf for the first time, but when those people went out to take their first golf lesson they werent learning Tigers swing, they were learning Hogans.
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