BREAKING: Sabonis/Lamb/Holiday to SAC for Hield/Halliburton/Tristan Thompson

[bison]

The Pacers are trading Domas Sabonis, Jeremy Lamb and Justin Holiday to Sacramento for Tyrese Hailburton, Buddy Hield and Tristan Thompson, sources tell ESPN.

Yikes @ Sacramento. Hailburton was the only good thing they had going for them

[HylianNightmare]

Does this really move the needle for either team

[bison]

Does this really move the needle for either team

No. Pacers stay on the treadmill and Kings might have gotten worse.

[Kblaze8855]

20 million year for Sabonis in that league is a hell of a deal for this and 2 more seasons but I don’t know what the kings wanna do with him. They really wanna win 37 games?

They think they may turn to Memphis maybe?

[ThRRR3tardSatan]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?501566-trade-in-the-air


Said Kings would trade Haliburton to Indy even before I said Levert would go to Cavs.

[RRR3]

Giving up a 21 year old 6’5 guard who supposedly plays good defense and is putting up 14.3/7.4 on 57.5% TS for a big who can’t play defense or space the floor is peak Kangz.

[Manny98]

Queens :roll::roll::roll:

[ImKobe]

I feel bad for Sabonis.

[highwhey]

WTF

why gibe up Halliburton?!?! :biggums:

[RRR3]

WTF

why gibe up Halliburton?!?! :biggums:
Lings gonna Lings

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Halliburton looked the most promising out of him, Mitchell and fox. Yet they trade him first? Sounds pretty stupid.

At least they finally got rid of buddy and got a borderline all-star big

[ralph_i_el]

I don't understand. Haliburton is a more valuable asset than Sabonis, when you consider that you have his restricted rights at the end of this rookie deal. Wtf were the Kings thinking?

[Proctor]

Neither team gets much better. Cooooool...more young talent wasting away on shit teams.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

It definitely should've been Fox instead of Hali. Word is, even ppl inside the Kings org were stunned by Hali being traded. He was supposed to be a cornerstone for the future. But maybe Fox just doesn't have the value Kings/Kings fans think.

I assume Kings aren't done. Barnes and maybe even Holmes and even Fox may get traded, who knows. But in reality, this is a good move if their goal is to really push for the play-in this year. It sounds like a dumb goal, but y'all have no idea how important the play-in is to the fanbase here. No playoffs in 15 years, the fans and org are desperate. Plus Sabonis isn't a rental. Sabonis + Fox CAN be a solid duo for next season and possibly longer. And Lamb and Holiday are MAJOR upgrades over Buddy.

I think this move CAN put the Kings in the play-in. But it definitely doesn't help the Kings long term.

[BurningHammer]

This only means Turner is now out of trade market. :ohwell:

[FireDavidKahn]

WTF are the Kings doing???

[highwhey]

suns should have traded for him tbh. hali/booker/ayton would be the most well rounded young core in the nba

[Im Still Ballin]

**** this team.

**** THEM.

:facepalm

[r0drig0lac]

Sabonis > Hali

[bladefd]

This only means Turner is now out of trade market. :ohwell:

Unless if Pacers are going for full tank lol.

I don't like this trade personally. I think Sacramento got the better deal here regardless of what people are saying in this thread. Fox is a decent pg, fellows, and Sabonis is a solid young center. Why do people feel it doesn't work?

I don't expect them to move Harrison Barnes anymore, which is a bummer for us Lakers fans who were hopeful about getting him. I don't know what to make of the Damion Mitchell, Justin Holiday, Jeremy Lamb depth at SG. I think they are going to have to do something about that. Can't have too many okay chefs in the shooting kitchen.

[ShawkFactory]

This is such a pointless trade for SAC. They're maybe slightly better but it accomplishes nothing in the long run.

[Jasper]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33244860/indiana-pacers-sacramento-kings-work-six-player-trade-includes-domantas-sabonis-tyrese-haliburton-sources-say

turner now has free rein in the lane , minus Sabonis

[ThRRR3tardSatan]

Unless if Pacers are going for full tank lol.

I don't like this trade personally. I think Sacramento got the better deal here regardless of what people are saying in this thread. Fox is a decent pg, fellows, and Sabonis is a solid young center. Why do people feel it doesn't work?

I don't expect them to move Harrison Barnes anymore, which is a bummer for us Lakers fans who were hopeful about getting him. I don't know what to make of the Damion Mitchell, Justin Holiday, Jeremy Lamb depth at SG. I think they are going to have to do something about that. Can't have too many okay chefs in the shooting kitchen.


Fox is a brick layer and there is no way Sabonis/Holmes or Sabonis/Barnes will work as C/PF. A team that can't spread the floor or play defense won't work for obvious reasons. Better get some shooters and rim protector along with Fox becoming a better shooter.

[Axe]

Sacramento on pace for a 25-year playoff drought

[ThRRR3tardSatan]

https://i.ibb.co/q11dLS8/20220208-141205.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/Z6NZBKt/20220208-141227.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/jzL7zH3/20220208-140409.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/6F2d186/20220208-183821.jpg

[bladefd]

Fox is a brick layer and there is no way Sabonis/Holmes or Sabonis/Barnes will work as C/PF. A team that can't spread the floor or play defense won't work for obvious reasons. Better get some shooters and rim protector along with Fox becoming a better shooter.

Do you not see some resemblance of the Lakers big 3 here?

Sabonis = Gasol
Holmes = Odom

2009 Bynum equivalent is missing though. Unless if you consider Holmes a Bynum equivalent who can shoot 3s and Bagley an Odom equivalent. I think it's a good trio at the 4/5 and Barnes at the 3. They do have an issue in the backcourt though as I mentioned.

I do think they should have moved Fox instead of Halliburton. Fox is a decent player, but Halliburton is going to be a better fit for the modern nba. Elite 3pt shooters who are 6'5, can defend, and run the point are very hard to find. You don't give them up that easily.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Fox is a brick layer and there is no way Sabonis/Holmes or Sabonis/Barnes will work as C/PF. A team that can't spread the floor or play defense won't work for obvious reasons. Better get some shooters and rim protector along with Fox becoming a better shooter.
Sabonis is so flexible, he can work w/ any big. He can play inside or out. He'll be fine w/ Holmes. And Barnes can just play SF in a big lineup (his natural position anyway).

[iamgine]

Not a bad trade. Sabonis is young and currently a better player than Haliburton. Haliburton has very high potential, but who knows what he turns out to be. Just look at D'aaron Fox.

[ArbitraryWater]

I dont get it.

[Derka]

Such a Kings thing to do. Halliburton is going to be terrific.

[Wally450]

So who gets better in this trade? Lol

[LLL3]

Not a bad trade. Sabonis is young and currently a better player than Haliburton. Haliburton has very high potential, but who knows what he turns out to be. Just look at D'aaron Fox.


Haliburton has so much more potential than Fox at the same age. More efficient, equal scorer, better 3 point shooter, better FT shooter, better defender, much better size.

Funny thing is Jeremy Lamb was included in the trade for future MVP and young up and coming James Harden too

[ThRRR3tardSatan]

Do you not see some resemblance of the Lakers big 3 here?

Sabonis = Gasol
Holmes = Odom

2009 Bynum equivalent is missing though. Unless if you consider Holmes a Bynum equivalent who can shoot 3s and Bagley an Odom equivalent. I think it's a good trio at the 4/5 and Barnes at the 3. They do have an issue in the backcourt though as I mentioned.

I do think they should have moved Fox instead of Halliburton. Fox is a decent player, but Halliburton is going to be a better fit for the modern nba. Elite 3pt shooters who are 6'5, can defend, and run the point are very hard to find. You don't give them up that easily.


Gasol looked a lot longer and was a much better shooter. Sabonis mostly gets his points in the paint playing bully ball or putbacks off of offensive rebounds. His mid range used to be more impressive because of the potential but for now it's like 35% at mid range I think, last I saw.

I don't know about Holmes compared to Odom. Since Holmes is listed as a center I also feel like Odom was a better athlete and he was highly regarded prospect. He was known as a good player around the league, like a 2nd tier player compared to elite 1st tier, whereas I hear nothing about Holme and he is like 3rd or 4th tier. But I haven't paid attention to Holmes a lot do I don't know.



Last night...

Damian Jones 9 of 11 with 18pts-6rebs-5asts
De'Aaron Fox 11 off 22 with 31pts-7rebs-6asts
Harrison Barnes 3 of 7 with 21pts-6rebs-3asts

Wolves blew them out 134-114 and all their starters played about 25 minutes.

Sabonis in place of Jones would have been same result. His lack of rim protection had to be covered by Myles Turner and Sabonis isn't a very good perimeter defender. Feel like Kings defense is going to be giving up 130 most nights.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Wolves blew them out 134-114 and all their starters played about 25 minutes.

Sabonis in place of Jones would have been same result.
We'll see tonight. Rematch w/ Wolves and the Kings have all 3 ex-Pacers (which btw, IS a factor. Holiday and Lamb are upgrades over Dummy Hield).

[iamgine]

Haliburton has so much more potential than Fox at the same age. More efficient, equal scorer, better 3 point shooter, better FT shooter, better defender, much better size.

Funny thing is Jeremy Lamb was included in the trade for future MVP and young up and coming James Harden too

Nah Fox was hyped quite a bit back then too.

[zeerghit]

Sabonis was phenomenal today

[iamgine]

Sabonis was phenomenal today

This is a regular game for him.

[zeerghit]

This is a regular game for him.

i know, but i think he just infected all team, ball movement was incredible, the high post offense worked perfectly and they was having fun aswell thats rare to see

[PacerRaptor]

Sabonis was phenomenal today

He’s always put up great numbers. He can’t play Defence if his life depended on it

[ImKobe]

So who gets better in this trade? Lol

Kings in the short term but the Pacers absolutely won this trade when looking past this season. Sabonis is the better player right now and it would make sense to trade a young player for him if you're trying to win this season, but the Kings at best get to the POs as a 7-8 seed (probably not as the Lakers & Pelicans are both better & will beat them in the play in) and lose in 4-5 games. It doesn't make any sense. It would be one thing if they didn't have their 1st round pick for this season but they could have just played it out and potentially got a top 4 pick on top of Haliburton & Fox and traded De'Aaron & Bagley in the off-season to build something around Ty.. Sabonis is under contract until 2024 and he's only making about 20 mil a year so they still have some moves they can make to build a good team around him but I have 0 faith in that organization.

You don't get to miss the Playoffs 15-16 years in a row without your management being the worst in sports. This is what bad franchises do.