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highwhey
02-09-2022, 10:22 PM
Deadly police violence has long been a major public health crisis, but an estimated 17,000 deaths from police violence were misclassified in federal public health data over the past four decades, according to a new study published by a team of researchers in The Lancet, a leading medical journal. The study found that Black people are 3.5 times more like to be killed by police than white people, and Latinx and Indigenous people are also killed at disproportionate rates.

The study also suggests that local sheriffs, coroners, medical examiners and police themselves may play a role in skewing federal fatality data that obfuscates the severity of the police violence crisis. According to the team’s calculations, 55.5 percent of deaths caused by police were not reported as such between 1980 and 2018, including nearly 60 percent of cases where the victim was Black.

“It’s incredibly naive to assume that it is all just by happenstance, that it is just a coincidence that they are listed [under] another cause of death,” said Amara Enyia, policy and research coordinator for the Movement for Black Lives, in an interview.


For example, former President Donald Trump attempted to downplay the uprisings against police last summer by claiming that more white people are killed by police than Black people. With this statement, Trump essentially manipulated data to push his preferred narrative.

A larger number of white people are killed by police because there is a larger population of white people in the U.S., but studies show that Black people are shot and killed by police at twice the rate of whites. The racial disparity is even more pronounced in cases where the victim was unarmed and posted a minimal threat to police.

but 13%...no more. even when black victims were unarmed and posed no threat, they are still far more likely to be killed than their white counterparts.

https://truthout.org/articles/new-study-shows-more-than-half-of-police-killings-have-gone-uncounted-since-1980/

Police have literally been juking the stats so they don't expose themselves as racists....FOR DECADES :facepalm

Patrick Chewing
02-09-2022, 10:51 PM
OP is a FAT liar

highwhey
02-09-2022, 10:55 PM
typical maga fgt can't face the truth. :oldlol:

bison
02-09-2022, 10:56 PM
Cringe. Racializing crime statistics is gay whether you're a ****** nationalist making 13/52 jokes or a BLM libtard pulling up fake and gay statistics. Playing statistical racial olympics doesn't make a wrongful police shooting of a white man less tragic than a wrongful police shooting of a black man. All races respond positively to responsible policing but dilution of sympathy via race makes responsible policing a distant reailty.

bison
02-09-2022, 10:56 PM
why the fvck is w1gger censored on this forum :oldlol:

John_Connor
02-09-2022, 11:37 PM
why does the 13% commit 7000 murders a year while the 60% commits 5000 in the US each year

perhaps the reason the 13% is targeted more by police is because they have more interactions with them on average and commit more crimes and murders on average which leads to more altercations and resisting in average

I was arrested before. just put my hands behind my back and that was that. no stun gun needed. no wrestling for guns or accidental unarmed killing


cops just want respect. you give a little you get a little

highwhey
02-09-2022, 11:52 PM
why does the 13% commit 7000 murders a year while the 60% commits 5000 in the US each year

perhaps the reason the 13% is targeted more by police is because they have more interactions with them on average and commit more crimes and murders on average which leads to more altercations and resisting in average

I was arrested before. just put my hands behind my back and that was that. no stun gun needed. no wrestling for guns or accidental unarmed killing


cops just want respect. you give a little you get a little
:roll::roll::roll:

John_Connor
02-10-2022, 12:04 AM
:roll::roll::roll:

https://voca.ro/1ikDAHmLDQks

:roll:

highwhey
02-10-2022, 12:12 AM
https://voca.ro/1ikDAHmLDQks

:roll:

did you go on there and voice record what you think a normal interaction happens?

the truth is, the moment the officer felt disrespected, he'd force the driver out of the car and claim he resisted.

you didn't even read the article. 50% of police caused deaths go unreported. coroners and medical examiners are imbedded with police departments most of the time, so there is a bias from the start.

John_Connor
02-10-2022, 12:24 AM
did you go on there and voice record what you think a normal interaction happens?

the truth is, the moment the officer felt disrespected, he'd force the driver out of the car and claim he resisted.

you didn't even read the article. 50% of police caused deaths go unreported. coroners and medical examiners are imbedded with police departments most of the time, so there is a bias from the start.

yeah and it's usually after half an hour of them not complying. and then when they're forced out of the car they're resisting and making 2 or 3 officers join in to pry them from the car. and then they continue struggling while getting hit in the legs with a police stick and probably stunned. then after that they say they dindu nuffin. and you know what? sometimes they're right lol. so it made no sense for them not to comply but they do it anyway cause they gotta keep it real or show off for social media. it's pathetic. stop filming everything and just assimilate with society for a change. end this cycle of madness. cause the cops aren't gonna stop doing their jobs. so black people have to be the ones who change. no police stations are gonna be defended. nobodies being replaced with militias. laws aren't going away.

they might have zero cash bail now and no charges fir theft under 1000 but fighting with cops will always get you hard time behind bars. sometimes you just gotta take an L and move on.

highwhey
02-10-2022, 12:35 AM
yeah and it's usually after half an hour of them not complying. and then when they're forced out of the car they're resisting and making 2 or 3 officers join in to pry them from the car. and then they continue struggling while getting hit in the legs with a police stick and probably stunned. then after that they say they dindu nuffin. and you know what? sometimes they're right lol. so it made no sense for them not to comply but they do it anyway cause they gotta keep it real or show off for social media. it's pathetic. stop filming everything and just assimilate with society for a change. end this cycle of madness. cause the cops aren't gonna stop doing their jobs. so black people have to be the ones who change. no police stations are gonna be defended. nobodies being replaced with militias. laws aren't going away.

they might have zero cash bail now and no charges fir theft under 1000 but fighting with cops will always get you hard time behind bars. sometimes you just gotta take an L and move on.

you have a creative mind kenny. unfortunately your fantasies do not trump hard data.

Patrick Chewing
02-10-2022, 12:42 AM
Hey guys, let's all remember that fat highweight applied to be a cop a few years ago.......


https://i.gifer.com/4qkn.gif

highwhey
02-10-2022, 12:51 AM
Hey guys, let's all remember that fat highweight applied to be a cop a few years ago.......


https://i.gifer.com/4qkn.gif

literally never applied. you're upset i run a succesful business and am younger, more handsome and have more charm than you.

you're 50 years old w/ no bitch to bend over and **** at the end of the day. no wonder you're salty.

John_Connor
02-10-2022, 01:05 AM
you have a creative mind kenny. unfortunately your fantasies do not trump hard data.

find me one video of a black guy ever getting beat down by cops since Rodney king after he

1. didn't do anything wrong
2. was suspected of no wrong doing
3. complied with officers

Patrick Chewing
02-10-2022, 01:11 AM
find me one video of a black guy ever getting beat down by cops since Rodney king after he

1. didn't do anything wrong
2. was suspected of no wrong doing
3. complied with officers

He knows he can't. He's an emotional child that hates cops cause he couldn't pass the physical.

highwhey
02-10-2022, 01:12 AM
find me one video of a black guy ever getting beat down by cops since Rodney king after he

1. didn't do anything wrong
2. was suspected of no wrong doing
3. complied with officers

being suspected of something does not warrant a beatdown.

and there's plenty of videos where suspects are being given conflicting orders ON PURPOSE. you can't possibly comply if the officer(s) are shouting conflicting orders. you'd be AMAZED how many charges get automatically dismissed in court when a judge sees the shit these ghetto street cops pull on civilians. unfortunately by then the damage is done.

a lot of bodycam is erased. nothing ever got done about officers deleting body cam that incriminates them. another glaring issue with law enforcement giving them a pass for commiting felonies.

at the core of this issue is why officers are given a pass to violate the same laws they enforce. a mouth breather like yourself will never have the mental capacity to think about such a fundamental issue.

John_Connor
02-10-2022, 01:56 AM
being suspected of something does not warrant a beatdown.

and there's plenty of videos where suspects are being given conflicting orders ON PURPOSE. you can't possibly comply if the officer(s) are shouting conflicting orders. you'd be AMAZED how many charges get automatically dismissed in court when a judge sees the shit these ghetto street cops pull on civilians. unfortunately by then the damage is done.

a lot of bodycam is erased. nothing ever got done about officers deleting body cam that incriminates them. another glaring issue with law enforcement giving them a pass for commiting felonies.

at the core of this issue is why officers are given a pass to violate the same laws they enforce. a mouth breather like yourself will never have the mental capacity to think about such a fundamental issue.

didn't even read this post cause no youtube link


try again fat boy

send me one video. surely you can find one

Patrick Chewing
02-10-2022, 11:40 AM
Criminals are getting off left and right and being put back on the streets again in record numbers. Crime is up. Rape is up. Robbery is up. Murder is up.

And what does highweight bitch about? One or two cases of police injustice. Dude is pathetic. His priorities are all out of whack. The biggest danger to fat boy highweight right is probably his next door neighbor, not the police.

highwhey
02-10-2022, 11:58 AM
Criminals are getting off left and right and being put back on the streets again in record numbers. Crime is up. Rape is up. Robbery is up. Murder is up.

And what does highweight bitch about? One or two cases of police injustice. Dude is pathetic. His priorities are all out of whack. The biggest danger to fat boy highweight right is probably his next door neighbor, not the police.
do you have proof of this?

Manny98
02-10-2022, 12:15 PM
Hey guys, let's all remember that fat highweight applied to be a cop a few years ago.......


https://i.gifer.com/4qkn.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/hvwy6xqs/Chief-wiggum-no-cap.png

Patrick Chewing
02-10-2022, 12:30 PM
do you have proof of this?

lol wut??

fsvr54
02-10-2022, 02:15 PM
All you need to hear fakkit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03MXZe1ZLhk

The US is the least racist country in the world. Actually leave and go check other places out.

Patrick Chewing
02-10-2022, 02:46 PM
All you need to hear fakkit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03MXZe1ZLhk

The US is the least racist country in the world. Actually leave and go check other places out.

This clip and a few others is what turned Dave Rubin into a Conservative. He quickly realized his Party was wacky and full of lies and deception.

John_Connor
02-10-2022, 04:39 PM
This clip and a few others is what turned Dave Rubin into a Conservative. He quickly realized his Party was wacky and full of lies and deception.


more blacks are killed by blacks than the total number of people of every color combined that are killed by white people. that's f*cked

if I was black I would bleach my skin and move to a suburb and dig ditches or cut people's lawns for donations and just fly under the radar hoping I don't run into another black guy for the rest of my life. it's a literal Jason movie with them. like every time you see another black guy you should be crying and running away like a woman hysterically

John_Connor
02-10-2022, 05:35 PM
https://m.worldstar.com/web/video.php?v=wshh0SIeFe4P6X8v2YwH

:roll:

Patrick Chewing
02-10-2022, 05:57 PM
https://m.worldstar.com/web/video.php?v=wshh0SIeFe4P6X8v2YwH

:roll:

The 13% never disappoints.

Full Court
02-11-2022, 09:11 PM
What a ridiculous way to warp people's opinions by pushing a skewed narrative.

If the cops shoot somebody, the only question I have is was it justified. If it was, then I don't care what color the criminal's skin was or what statistics you can drum up about it.

If it wasn't justified, then the cop should face trial for murder or manslaughter, regardless of the skin color of the person who got shot.

fsvr54
02-11-2022, 10:01 PM
What a ridiculous way to warp people's opinions by pushing a skewed narrative.

If the cops shoot somebody, the only question I have is was it justified. If it was, then I don't care what color the criminal's skin was or what statistics you can drum up about it.

If it wasn't justified, then the cop should face trial for murder or manslaughter, regardless of the skin color of the person who got shot.

This is logical and fair. The way everyone should think

highwhey
02-11-2022, 10:58 PM
What a ridiculous way to warp people's opinions by pushing a skewed narrative.

If the cops shoot somebody, the only question I have is was it justified. If it was, then I don't care what color the criminal's skin was or what statistics you can drum up about it.

If it wasn't justified, then the cop should face trial for murder or manslaughter, regardless of the skin color of the person who got shot.

i don't think i ever claimed that point of view. i'm tracing back evidence from the end result. but that would be a great start, to actually hold accountable law enforcement that kills unjustly. the right doesn't even want that though, they want blanket immunity for law enforcement.

Full Court
02-11-2022, 11:04 PM
i don't think i ever claimed that point of view. i'm tracing back evidence from the end result. but that would be a great start, to actually hold accountable law enforcement that kills unjustly. the right doesn't even want that though, they want blanket immunity for law enforcement.

That's a complete straw man argument.

Literally nobody wants blanket immunity for law enforcement.

highwhey
02-11-2022, 11:07 PM
That's a complete straw man argument.

Literally nobody wants blanket immunity for law enforcement.

really? so why do people like patrickchewing mock me when i say we should hold police accountable? he deflects and claims it doesn't happen enough to warrant an argument. i've literally NEVER have seen a republican say "yes, we should hold accountable police like the officer that kneed george floyd or the officers that killed the innocent hostage". usually it's more "ehh, goerge had a long criminal history, and the hostage was an accident".

umm...what? that type of thinking is equal to saying they want blanket immunity.

Full Court
02-11-2022, 11:25 PM
really? so why do people like patrickchewing mock me when i say we should hold police accountable? he deflects and claims it doesn't happen enough to warrant an argument. i've literally NEVER have seen a republican say "yes, we should hold accountable police like the officer that kneed george floyd or the officers that killed the innocent hostage". usually it's more "ehh, goerge had a long criminal history, and the hostage was an accident".

umm...what? that type of thinking is equal to saying they want blanket immunity.

I know a lot of republicans, and every one of them believes cops, and EVERYBODY in a position of authority or public trust, should be held accountable.

The problem is that the media tries to crucify cops in order to push a certain narrative every time an incident happens. The left jumps right onto it before the facts are even out. Reasonable people don't rush to call a cop a murderer based on an edited video clip that doesn't even show what happened.

I don't know of a single person who thinks kneeling on Floyd's neck was acceptable. Do you?

highwhey
02-11-2022, 11:34 PM
I know a lot of republicans, and every one of them believes cops, and EVERYBODY in a position of authority or public trust, should be held accountable.

The problem is that the media tries to crucify cops in order to push a certain narrative every time an incident happens. The left jumps right onto it before the facts are even out. Reasonable people don't rush to call a cop a murderer based on an edited video clip that doesn't even show what happened.

I don't know of a single person who thinks kneeling on Floyd's neck was acceptable. Do you?

and your argument dies on that hill. the police do the EXACT same thing. they rush to publish any small negative history about the suspect to skew their public perception while taking their time to release footage (if they ever), by the time the footage is release, all the details of the case are known. it's a long standing practice they do. they even share details that may not be true...and then edit their story to reflect the initial report was not true. they pick and choose what to release in their statements and republicans eat it up. welcome to the world of media. chosing to publicize a collaborating statment of highly untrustworthy bystandstander or witness while omitting the statement of a witness/friend that is positive is Police PR 101.

i read plenty of online comments from people that said floyd deserved it. and the fact that a lot of people didn't like the call for justice supports that they don't see anything wrong with. tolerating something evil is just as bad as doing it. just like the republicans that don't see anything wrong with their brethren wearing white robes to their rallies.

and your initial statement is horseshit. republicans' only want liberals to be held accountable. not one call for justice for any of their favoirte politicians. not one call for justice when police harass innocent individuals. not one call for justice for the police that were agitating the protestors during the riots, sometimes even starting conflict and being violent with peaceful protestors. not one.

wasn't it republicans who storm the capital last year? or where they just overzealous folks?

Full Court
02-11-2022, 11:40 PM
I don't base my take on anything on online comments. You have no idea who's posting those things and why. Talk to real people.

And as for the accountability thing, it goes both ways. When was the left ever calling for accountability for all the rioting and property damage in BLM protests?

highwhey
02-11-2022, 11:52 PM
I don't base my take on anything on online comments. You have no idea who's posting those things and why. Talk to real people.

And as for the accountability thing, it goes both ways. When was the left ever calling for accountability for all the rioting and property damage in BLM protests?

the blm riots were a lot of individuals not associated to the actual cause. police agitators did not help this. and on the same note, talk to people on the street and a lot of them are more level headed than fox news paints liberals. i don't know any real life liberal with purple hair color or that cries for justice for the trans. literally no one.

but thanks for not addressing my points, completely proving my argument true. :cheers:

Full Court
02-12-2022, 12:01 AM
the blm riots were a lot of individuals not associated to the actual cause. police agitators did not help this. and on the same note, talk to people on the street and a lot of them are more level headed than fox news paints liberals. i don't know any real life liberal with purple hair color or that cries for justice for the trans. literally no one.

but thanks for not addressing my points, completely proving my argument true. :cheers:

Lol. Dude, your "argument" was that you read online comments and characterize a group of people based on that. So yeah, there's nothing there to address.

Axe
02-12-2022, 02:12 AM
the blm riots were a lot of individuals not associated to the actual cause. police agitators did not help this. and on the same note, talk to people on the street and a lot of them are more level headed than fox news paints liberals. i don't know any real life liberal with purple hair color or that cries for justice for the trans. literally no one.

but thanks for not addressing my points, completely proving my argument true. :cheers:
It seems he doesn't want to agree with anyone who has different opinions to his. :ohwell:

Patrick Chewing
02-12-2022, 11:02 AM
I just want everyone in this thread not to forget that highweight once applied to become a police officer. That is all.


Have a great weekend, fellas. I might pass by local precinct today and thank an officer for their bravery in putting on the uniform.