Shout out to all the idiots here who said Ben trade value is crap

[GOBB]

2022 and this board still doesn’t have a functioning search feature like most places. So you’re lucky you aren’t getting tagged. But hit dogs holler so yea have a seat.

[ArbitraryWater]

He back



Chip coming up?

ECSF's will be lit

[Kblaze8855]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?501158-Pistons-made-this-offer-for-Simmons-and-76ers-declined


Little something.

[fourkicks44]

Well said, OP.

Morey has just taken a massive dump on everyone that said he waited too long to trade Simmons or he should have taken the first available deal to get the situation resolved as soon as possible.

[1987_Lakers]

Well said, OP.

Morey has just taken a massive dump on everyone that said he waited too long to trade Simmons or he should have taken the first available deal to get the situation resolved as soon as possible.

lol, I just cliked kblaze's link and saw what you said in that thread. But I don't blame you, I don't think anybody expected the Sixers to land Harden for Simmons.

[FultzNationRISE]

https://www.si.com/.image/t_share/MTY4MjU5Mzc4Njc2OTY3MzI1/image-placeholder-title.jpg


He'll be at his best in Philly!

[GOBB]

He back



Chip coming up?

ECSF's will be lit

Not quite sure. But adding an elite skill set offensive player is huge. Sure harden definitely has his issues. Hopefully he doesn’t do the sizers like Kyrie and Bron. Leaving us out to dry. I think Philly will be major players in the buyout market. That place tends to have the same damn teams getting the best available. This move pushes us in the mix. Embiid is in his prime. Doesn’t work? Can’t say Morey didn’t try. In Hinkie I still trust.

[Kblaze8855]

lol, I just cliked kblaze's link and saw what you said in that thread. But I don't blame you, I don't think anybody expected the Sixers to land Harden for Simmons.


Seemed obvious the 76ers weren’t taking non stars. People just couldn’t believe they would stick to it.

[coin24]

Enjoy the hardon and big shrivel second round exit OP:lol

[Spurs m8]

Ummm they had to also give up 2 first round picks and Seth....which is already too much

Taking Simmons was a favour by the Nets, high risk high reward type thing.

[Spurs m8]

Remember when the 76 were asking for like Harden and 2-3 first round picks...

Then they had to be the one giving up the 2 picks just to have him taken off their hands lmao

[Gohan]

Philly got a first class trip to the finals. Harden is gonna play up to his standards, watch

[coin24]

Philly got a first class trip to the finals. Harden is gonna play up to his standards, watch

:roll::roll:

[FultzNationRISE]

Philly got a first class trip to the finals. Harden is gonna play up to his standards, watch


I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

[Spurs m8]

Philly got a first class trip to the finals. Harden is gonna play up to his standards, watch

Lol mate

The less he has the ball, the better

[AlternativeAcc.]

They got over the hill Harden who chokes every year in the playoffs and gave away picks, depth, and D

SUXERS are a joke. Laughingstock.

[Proctor]

Imagine boasting about getting James ***ing Harden. Sorry, that is crap trade value.

There is absolutely zero chance the Sixers win a ring without doing some "Durant on the Warriors-esque" stacking. Good luck with that loser in the playoffs. You'll be a ghost again soon OP :lol

[FultzNationRISE]

I mean it... it really, honestly blows my mind people are celebrating the acquisition of Lamez Retarden.

It’s so bizarre that people think this is a coup of some kind.

Altho there is some upside, since Tarden is a free agent this offseason. In a way this is like getting out of Simmons contract without having to take back salary in return, or letting it look like Simmons bullied them in any way. Nobody was offering anything good for him regardless, they can basically take one chance with Lamez and then wash their hands.

Of course theyll probably end up giving him an enormous extension, like... tomorrow.

Still, the trade is a win for all of us. The incoming hilarity is priceless.

[GOBB]

Ummm they had to also give up 2 first round picks and Seth....which is already too much

Taking Simmons was a favour by the Nets, high risk high reward type thing.

Nah we not doing that my guy. The narrative was James Harden is a PIPE DREAM. Sixers not getting him so stop the trade scenarios putting together a package. The proposed packages back then by folks (media, pundits, fans etc) was they HAD to include Thybulle and/or Maxey along with Ben, picks and company. Fast forward to today we gave up 2 late first rd picks (rotation players at best for the most part), Andre Drummond (any team could’ve signed him last summer), Ben Simmons who wasn’t going to play so you can’t even factor in his importance and Seth Curry. He’s the only guy you can legit say “sixers lose some perimeter shooting”.


And we are gonna sit here and say that was too much? Stop. For an elite offensive player? Harden checks all the boxes the Sixers have been lacking for years. A legit scoring guard that can create his own buckets, elite scorer, clutch performer etc. Got to go back to Iverson for a player this talented offensively. One can argue Jimmy Butler but I don’t place him on the same level skill wise. Sometimes Jimmy just does enough and not more.

Regardless anyone who says this was too much is a bonehead, yes disrespect. If you want to criticize the trade? Do so by saying he could opt out and leave the Sixers with their schlong in hand. THATS possible in spite of him wanting to get paid and Sixers would give him a hefty contract. If you want to say that’ll backfire in 2 seasons? Say that. If you want to say this doesn’t make the Sixers favorites to win the chip, they won’t win it, they might get 1rd further than last year but still lose? Say that.

Do not I repeat do not say this was too much for the sizers to give up when the MAIN PRIZE in the deal from sixers side hasn’t played all season. 32-22, 2.5gms behind Miami who is in first place. And yes they are led by a guy we had in Butler but he wasn’t playing here with Ben nor Brett. He’s made that clear. You’ll be hard pressed to find a franchise get rid of those 2 for him.

[Proctor]

Nah we not doing that my guy. The narrative was James Harden is a PIPE DREAM. Sixers not getting him so stop the trade scenarios putting together a package. The proposed packages back then by folks (media, pundits, fans etc) was they HAD to include Thybulle and/or Maxey along with Ben, picks and company. Fast forward to today we gave up 2 late first rd picks (rotation players at best for the most part), Andre Drummond (any team could’ve signed him last summer), Ben Simmons who wasn’t going to play so you can’t even factor in his importance and Seth Curry. He’s the only guy you can legit say “sixers lose some perimeter shooting”.


And we are gonna sit here and say that was too much? Stop. For an elite offensive player? Harden checks all the boxes the Sixers have been lacking for years. A legit scoring guard that can create his own buckets, elite scorer, clutch performer etc. Got to go back to Iverson for a player this talented offensively. One can argue Jimmy Butler but I don’t place him on the same level skill wise. Sometimes Jimmy just does enough and not more.

Regardless anyone who says this was too much is a bonehead, yes disrespect. If you want to criticize the trade? Do so by saying he could opt out and leave the Sixers with their schlong in hand. THATS possible in spite of him wanting to get paid and Sixers would give him a hefty contract. If you want to say that’ll backfire in 2 seasons? Say that. If you want to say this doesn’t make the Sixers favorites to win the chip, they won’t win it, they might get 1rd further than last year but still lose? Say that.

Do not I repeat do not say this was too much for the sizers to give up when the MAIN PRIZE in the deal from sixers side hasn’t played all season. 32-22, 2.5gms behind Miami who is in first place. And yes they are led by a guy we had in Butler but he wasn’t playing here with Ben nor Brett. He’s made that clear. You’ll be hard pressed to find a franchise get rid of those 2 for him.
:roll:

[GOBB]

Imagine boasting about getting James ***ing Harden. Sorry, that is crap trade value.

There is absolutely zero chance the Sixers win a ring without doing some "Durant on the Warriors-esque" stacking. Good luck with that loser in the playoffs. You'll be a ghost again soon OP :lol

Imagine being the idiot who said sixers had no chance at harden before season. Then fast forward saying sixers got back crap trade value for James Harden. Yikes.

This is why this thread was made. Hit dogs holler and you dogs are hollering. I love it. Look at these nutty replies.

Ben has no trade value. Sixers get James harden. James harden is crap in value. ISHiots.

Imagine had sixers got Beal. “He doesn’t win. Perennial loser”.
Imagine had sixers got Fox “he can’t shoot the 3 like Ben and doesn’t play as good defense”
Imagine had sixers got Lillard “see Beal”

You dudes are funny. Ben ain’t play. Said he would never play. And we got something for a guy who did nothing all year but expose himself as a b*tch. Let’s see how fast his mental health has improved now.

[Proctor]

Imagine being the idiot who said sixers had no chance at harden before season. Then fast forward saying sixers got back crap trade value for James Harden. Yikes.

This is why this thread was made. Hit dogs holler and you dogs are hollering. I love it. Look at these nutty replies.

Ben has no trade value. Sixers get James harden. James harden is crap in value. ISHiots.

Imagine had sixers got Beal. “He doesn’t win. Perennial loser”.
Imagine had sixers got Fox “he can’t shoot the 3 like Ben and doesn’t play as good defense”
Imagine had sixers got Lillard “see Beal”

You dudes are funny. Ben ain’t play. Said he would never play. And we got something for a guy who did nothing all year but expose himself as a b*tch. Let’s see how fast his mental health has improved now.
Your team traded one player who quit for another who quit but did it with a uniform on. Harden is a different kind of b*tch. We won't hear his name out of your mouth in another couple months as everyone who supports the Sixers will loathe the clown.

In the very, very best case...he comes out and has a dynamite season and then sucks in the playoffs the same way Sixers fans claim Harris does. You better hope he gets his FTs in the meantime because this isn't your grandma's Harden and an elite scorer is a becoming a little bit of a stretch nowadays.

[GOBB]

:roll:

Is harden at the top of the list? Hell no. Is he at the bottom like 1pt in a playoff game Ben? Or pass up open shots (jumper/dunks) Ben? Hell no. I’d rather a failed attempt in the clutch with James than a non assertive, offensive liability in the clutch Ben.

Clearly you can’t read as I listed thing James can do that Ben can’t. You want to argue how clutch is he. Feel free. But he’s had more clutch moments in his career than Ben. I’ll take that over a player who in the 2nd half of games barely attempted 3 shot attempts and simply avg 0.33333ppg in the 4tg vs Hawks

[GOBB]

Your team traded one player who quit for another who quit but did it with a uniform on. Harden is a different kind of b*tch. We won't hear his name out of your mouth in another couple months as everyone who supports the Sixers will loathe the clown.

In the very, very best case...he comes out and has a dynamite season and then sucks in the playoffs the same way Sixers fans claim Harris does. You better hope he gets his FTs in the meantime because this isn't your grandma's Harden and an elite scorer is a becoming a little bit of a stretch nowadays.

None of you made this argument when he was dealt to Nets
None of you made this argument when Sixers fans kept hope alive saying Ben for Harden


Now the narrative is James is a quitter. Before “hahaa sixers fans give it up you’re delusional. You’re not getting Ben and his value is crap.”.

[Proctor]

None of you made this argument when he was dealt to Nets
None of you made this argument when Sixers fans kept hope alive saying Ben for Harden


Now the narrative is James is a quitter. Before “hahaa sixers fans give it up you’re delusional. You’re not getting Ben and his value is crap.”.
Nah, I've been blasting Harden as a quitter since his early Rockets days. Happy to see him gone from the Nets, that's for sure. Whether Ben ever steps on the court, I don't even care. Both teams are happy I guess. Just letting you prepare your frustration with Harden in advance. He's going to be synonymous with Embiid's wasted prime.

[Jasper]

Not quite sure. But adding an elite skill set offensive player is huge. Sure harden definitely has his issues. Hopefully he doesn’t do the sizers like Kyrie and Bron. Leaving us out to dry. I think Philly will be major players in the buyout market. That place tends to have the same damn teams getting the best available. This move pushes us in the mix. Embiid is in his prime. Doesn’t work? Can’t say Morey didn’t try. In Hinkie I still trust.

yea but you have to agree Morey gave up more than Simmons , but Harden will make them contenders for the ECF's.

[Spurs m8]

Nah we not doing that my guy. The narrative was James Harden is a PIPE DREAM. Sixers not getting him so stop the trade scenarios putting together a package. The proposed packages back then by folks (media, pundits, fans etc) was they HAD to include Thybulle and/or Maxey along with Ben, picks and company. Fast forward to today we gave up 2 late first rd picks (rotation players at best for the most part), Andre Drummond (any team could’ve signed him last summer), Ben Simmons who wasn’t going to play so you can’t even factor in his importance and Seth Curry. He’s the only guy you can legit say “sixers lose some perimeter shooting”.


And we are gonna sit here and say that was too much? Stop. For an elite offensive player? Harden checks all the boxes the Sixers have been lacking for years. A legit scoring guard that can create his own buckets, elite scorer, clutch performer etc. Got to go back to Iverson for a player this talented offensively. One can argue Jimmy Butler but I don’t place him on the same level skill wise. Sometimes Jimmy just does enough and not more.

Regardless anyone who says this was too much is a bonehead, yes disrespect. If you want to criticize the trade? Do so by saying he could opt out and leave the Sixers with their schlong in hand. THATS possible in spite of him wanting to get paid and Sixers would give him a hefty contract. If you want to say that’ll backfire in 2 seasons? Say that. If you want to say this doesn’t make the Sixers favorites to win the chip, they won’t win it, they might get 1rd further than last year but still lose? Say that.

Do not I repeat do not say this was too much for the sizers to give up when the MAIN PRIZE in the deal from sixers side hasn’t played all season. 32-22, 2.5gms behind Miami who is in first place. And yes they are led by a guy we had in Butler but he wasn’t playing here with Ben nor Brett. He’s made that clear. You’ll be hard pressed to find a franchise get rid of those 2 for him.

Stopped reading at James Harden is a pipe dream

[Spurs m8]

Imagine boasting about getting James ***ing Harden. Sorry, that is crap trade value.

There is absolutely zero chance the Sixers win a ring without doing some "Durant on the Warriors-esque" stacking. Good luck with that loser in the playoffs. You'll be a ghost again soon OP :lol

It's amazing isn't it.

How have they not learned yet?

:roll:

I know you get it

[GOBB]

Nah, I've been blasting Harden as a quitter since his early Rockets days. Happy to see him gone from the Nets, that's for sure. Whether Ben ever steps on the court, I don't even care. Both teams are happy I guess. Just letting you prepare your frustration with Harden in advance. He's going to be synonymous with Embiid's wasted prime.

Meh not much to prepare for. I know the hood and the bad. I compare that to Ben Simmons good and bad. And I’m not upset at the switch. Harden doesn’t make Sixers favorite to win the title let alone ECF. But if we based this on %? It’s higher to get further than where Sixers got last year. Certainly that’s not the goal but for a guy who bombs in playoffs and didn’t play this year? I’ll take it. Because we stand pat we lose Ben for nothing or lesser value in the offseason most likely.

My only concern is if Harden walks. Not if he is fools gold in the playoffs where he shows out rd 2 then bombs in ECF.

[GOBB]

yea but you have to agree Morey gave up more than Simmons , but Harden will make them contenders for the ECF's.


Just Seth Curry really. His perimeter scoring will be missed no doubt. We are going to have to hit that buyout market up heavy for a replacement. Harden is bringing with him some perimeter scoring but we shall see who gets bought out and is available

[AirBonner]

Harden is about to be sent to the tunnel crying like embitch

[FultzNationRISE]

Meh not much to prepare for. I know the hood and the bad. I compare that to Ben Simmons good and bad. And I’m not upset at the switch. Harden doesn’t make Sixers favorite to win the title let alone ECF. But if we based this on %? It’s higher to get further than where Sixers got last year. Certainly that’s not the goal but for a guy who bombs in playoffs and didn’t play this year? I’ll take it. Because we stand pat we lose Ben for nothing or lesser value in the offseason most likely.

My only concern is if Harden walks. Not if he is fools gold in the playoffs where he shows out rd 2 then bombs in ECF.


I actually agree that for Philly it's a gamble WORTH taking, based on the 5% probability Lamez miraculously "goes off" in the playoffs in a way Simmons and Curry would never be capable of. They weren't contending without the trade, so you might as well make the trade and start saying Hail Mary's.

But there's a 95% chance this ends in a disappointment and disgrace that is going to be oh-so-delicious to everyone outside the city of brotherly love.

[Jasper]

If harden stays with 6'ers he will be making the worst contract in NBA history and he will be 38 years old...
55Mil + a year.

something to think about Morey

[ArbitraryWater]

I actually agree that for Philly it's a gamble WORTH taking, based on the 5% probability Lamez miraculously "goes off" in the playoffs in a way Simmons and Curry would never be capable of. They weren't contending without the trade, so you might as well make the trade and start saying Hail Mary's.

But there's a 95% chance this ends in a disappointment and disgrace that is going to be oh-so-delicious to everyone outside the city of brotherly love.

I mean, it seems like you kind of forgot that Harden performed very well in the playoffs in 2018 and 2019 and even 2020 iirc.

[FultzNationRISE]

I mean, it seems like you kind of forgot that Harden performed very well in the playoffs in 2018 and 2019 and even 2020 iirc.

This is the mistake of looking back at numbers in hindsight.

Harden does Harden things every playoffs. Gets his numbers in a first or occasionally second round series where his team is favored, then utterly and shamelessly collapses and quits the MOMENT adversity is encountered.

Guys like Lebron, Durant, Cp3, even Luka already, all have examples of times their playoff run ended but they played their asses off, put up huge performances, but the team just couldnt pull thru.

That is never the case with Lamez. Every single time he is eliminated in a series - EVERY SINGLE TIME - he is the first one on the team to fold up, pack it in, and start getting mentally ready for the strip club before the game even ends.

The reputation didnt just appear out of nowhere. He’s earned it. Thats who he is. He’s apathetic and mentally tiny. He’s the least competitive star in recent memory.

[Full Court]

Regardless of who was or was not of crap value, I think both the Sixers and the Nets become better teams from this trade.

Harden clearly didn't gel with Kyrie, and it's not because of the vaccine thing. There was obvious friction from the first day that Harden came to the Nets. He's had some good games, but overall, he's underperformed his expectations.

Simmons won't play, so he's completely useless to the Sixers. Now the Sixers (theoretically) get someone who can share some of the offensive burden with Embiid.

If they get nothing else, the Nets should get a solid defender, which they desperately need if they want to make it out of the stacked East.

Seems like a win-win all around to me. Now what will be interesting is if the two teams play each other in the playoffs. Then we'll know who got the better deal.

[tpols]

https://www.si.com/.image/t_share/MTY4MjU5Mzc4Njc2OTY3MzI1/image-placeholder-title.jpg


He'll be at his best in Philly!

Half Allen Iverson half don king.

:biggums:

[GOBB]

If harden stays with 6'ers he will be making the worst contract in NBA history and he will be 38 years old...
55Mil + a year.

something to think about Morey

But sixers aren’t a team top tier free agents run too. They have to overpay. You don’t give Harden his deal then you give the Tobias Harris of the world those deals. You can stick to your guns and not overpay. But then you’re flirting with mediocrity or top of lottery hoping you get homegrown talent that stays (unlike Ben).

[Jasper]

Embd- center
harris - pf
Maxey - PG
Harden - SG
green -sf

looks like a pretty good starting 5 (what about their bench ??)

[Mask the Embiid]

Embd- center
harris - pf
Maxey - PG
Harden - SG
green -sf

looks like a pretty good starting 5 (what about their bench ??)

You’ve melted down on this page enough….
Embiid will put up stats = to Gianni’s
Tobias will put up numbers = to Middleton
Who is going to put up numbers = to harden? Jrue? :oldlol:
Who is going to put up numbers = to maxey?

No dynasty for you!

https://i.postimg.cc/Jh6xnNSX/2-D1-D8-CBA-E87-E-4445-A9-B4-EF4-D3-DE28-C7-A.gif

[Jasper]

You’ve melted down on this page enough….
Embiid will put up stats = to Gianni’s
Tobias will put up numbers = to Middleton
Who is going to put up numbers = to harden? Jrue? :oldlol:
Who is going to put up numbers = to maxey?

No dynasty for you!

https://i.postimg.cc/Jh6xnNSX/2-D1-D8-CBA-E87-E-4445-A9-B4-EF4-D3-DE28-C7-A.gif

see you in the playoffs... lololololololol

[3ba11]

He'll kill alongside Durant - he just wasn't a good fit with Embiid, whereas he can be the Nets' post option.. it's perfect tbh..

[MrFonzworth]

He'll kill alongside Durant - he just wasn't a good fit with Embiid, whereas he can be the Nets' post option.. it's perfect tbh..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hope you're talking about Drummond!

[hateraid]

Lol, classic

[Im Still Ballin]

See Cavs fans? This is how you make a winning move!

[LAL]

Funny thread

I told you to stop defending bitch simmons way before last season's playoffs and that he and his weaknesses will be the biggest focus if they didn't make the finals. You didn't believe me, all arogant.. then came the Hawks and both you and Simmons had a massive meltdown and never truly recovered.

[ImKobe]

2022 and this board still doesn’t have a functioning search feature like most places. So you’re lucky you aren’t getting tagged. But hit dogs holler so yea have a seat.

I mean, his trade value was not that great. You would have had to trade him for future picks & mediocre players or a Bradley Beal if the Harden thing worked out in Brooklyn. Morey obviously saw the signs and was plugged into the Harden stuff so he waited and got in on the deal at the right time, but if Harden never hurts his hammy and the Nets win the championship last year, this trade does not happen.

[red1]

you guys won that trade


harden is better than simmons by a mile and curry jr and drummond dont even put a dent in that gap


not a bad trade for the nets either but philly clearly came out on top. watch harden start balling with embiid now.

[WhiteKyrie]

Philly got a first class trip to the finals. Harden is gonna play up to his standards, watch
I think so too. He prob lacked motivation given he had KD, and assumably Kyrie plus a decent bench. And he wasn’t going to get alpha status credit. Lacked some motivation thus the pudgier out of shape-ness and build the past year and half.

He probably wanted to get traded to Philly last year to be under Morey to begin with, given their trusted relationship. Might not have wanted to be in BK to begin with tbh.

He’s a good fit I think with Embiid, way better fit than Simmons.

Simmons as much as I dislike him and his game, could be a fit in BK. If not? Oh well. They got KD, Kyrie, Mills and not Seth? That’s a really good squad that can maximize their superstars production at the same time.

You’re not getting A+ production out of 3 elite superstar players at the same time in KD, Harden and Kyrie. Especially as guys that need to shoot 20 - 25 times a game and have the ball in their hands that much.

It’s why the big three superstar scenario is kind of stupid. Unless there is some player who can play without the ball in their hands while being dominant or can truly fit a third option on offense and be ok with it.

That’s why big threes such as:

Celtics - KG, Pierce, Ray / Rondo worked
Heat - LeBron, Wade, Bosh (Forced to Stretch 4)
Spurs - TD, Parker, Ginobili (off bench)
Warriors - Steph, Klay, Draymond
Warriors - KD, Steph, Klay
Cavs - LeBron, Kyrie, Love (Forced to Stretch 4)

All worked. One of those guys have to come off the bench. Simmons facilitates and doesn’t want to shoot. He has size, versatility, pushes transition offense and won’t take shots away from KD and Kyrie. It seems like it would be a fit assuming his mental state is ok.

[Duderonomy]

Not really the Nets got a kings random with 2 firsts and Seth Curry as well. But considering Harden is a legit 2nd option for the Sixers while they were deep even with sitting out Simmons.

[GOBB]

Funny thread

I told you to stop defending bitch simmons way before last season's playoffs and that he and his weaknesses will be the biggest focus if they didn't make the finals. You didn't believe me, all arogant.. then came the Hawks and both you and Simmons had a massive meltdown and never truly recovered.

You’re just not a bright human being. I think you have a reading and comprehension problem. You’d think you would work on that in the offseason but I guess you’re no better than Ben Simmons. Just don’t put in the work to show any type of progress. Unfortunate.

I’ve always been critical of Ben Simmons so you’re saying what exactly besides babbling? Me highlighting the good parts of Ben Simmons game is logical. Like sayings he’s a damn good defensive player. But you’re way of thinking is “roffles!!! Ben sucks he’s no good bruh stop defending him.”.

Shame

[GOBB]

I mean, his trade value was not that great. You would have had to trade him for future picks & mediocre players or a Bradley Beal if the Harden thing worked out in Brooklyn. Morey obviously saw the signs and was plugged into the Harden stuff so he waited and got in on the deal at the right time, but if Harden never hurts his hammy and the Nets win the championship last year, this trade does not happen.

If if if if. Ben was moved with Harden. If Ben could make jumpers and sixers win title last year he’s not traded. Sorta how you sound. Fact remains Ben had more valuable than you seem to think. Just admit you’re wrong on this one

[GOBB]

Not really the Nets got a kings random with 2 firsts and Seth Curry as well. But considering Harden is a legit 2nd option for the Sixers while they were deep even with sitting out Simmons.

2 firsts will be late first rd firsts. If you did any homework on the late firsts you’ll see it’s mainly rotational players AT BEST. Offend duds and every now and then you’ll find a story to write about. So yeah tons of value there bud.

[tpols]

2 firsts will be late first rd firsts. If you did any homework on the late firsts you’ll see it’s mainly rotational players AT BEST. Offend duds and every now and then you’ll find a story to write about. So yeah tons of value there bud.

Jokic was taken in the 2nd round.

[AirBonner]

you guys won that trade


harden is better than simmons by a mile and curry jr and drummond dont even put a dent in that gap


not a bad trade for the nets either but philly clearly came out on top. watch harden start balling with embiid now.

Curry and Simmons combined are 31/12/12 player with actual defense. Are you Loney or something? Harden always loses

[hateraid]

The value is we got a bonfire proven scorer for a player who never was gonna play in a Sixers uni ever again. That's a HUGE win. All the collateral is miniscule.
You know who's definitely gonna get better? Thybulle. With a massive upgrade on offense dude can focus all energy on defense. Watch for it

[hateraid]

Jokic was taken in the 2nd round.

For every Jokic there's 10 Willie Hernamgomez's. Two crapshoots and Simmons for Harden? Yes please

[tpols]

For every Jokic there's 10 Willie Hernamgomez's. Two crapshoots and Simmons for Harden? Yes please

True.. Jokic is a unicorn but you can still get value in late rounds either way. Theres been a bunch of HOFers drafted late and a million busts drafted early. Euros in general get disrepected because they're white. Manu, Parker, Kukoc, Jokic, Marc Gasol etc were all drafted very late.

That's besides the point though. The trade wasn't harden for Simmons. It was harden for Simmons, Drummond (rebounding champion), and Curry (playoff sniper). If it was for just Simmons you'd have a great point but it was for much more. Nets are desperate for defense and rebounding and they just added one of the best rebounder and one of the best defenders in the NBA. They were getting diminishing returns with harden having the explosive offensive talent they possess.

[GOBB]

Jokic was taken in the 2nd round.

What’s your point? That no one took him with a late first rd pick which is what Sixers gave up? Oh cool.

[tpols]

What’s your point? That no one took him with a late first rd pick which is what Sixers gave up? Oh cool.

If a team had a late 1st round pick they could have gotten him even earlier. I didn't think this would need to be expanded upon but the 2nd round comes after the first round.

[Kblaze8855]

For every Jokic there's 10 Willie Hernamgomez's. Two crapshoots and Simmons for Harden? Yes please


It might be more like 1 every 500.

Those picks mean next to nothing. It isn’t the nfl where 2 firsts get you whoever is available.

[Kblaze8855]

Curry is an asset to everyone. Drummond is a situational guy who in some matchups wouldn’t see the floor an entire playoff series.

I don’t know why people are playing up late firsts, Curry, and Drummond as a lot. Simmons and Curry are noteworthy. Drummond will help the Nets specifically but he isn’t some big value piece around the league. Not in todays league.

[CountDracula]

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[GOBB]

If a team had a late 1st round pick they could have gotten him even earlier. I didn't think this would need to be expanded upon but the 2nd round comes after the first round.

But they didn’t idiot. So because he was taken 41st overall teams got smarter in the next drafts? No. Did you even see who was taken late first in that draft? Of course not. Didn’t think I needed to explain that either but ok

[AirBonner]

Imagine cheering for harden lol

[Spuddywebby]

you guys won that trade


harden is better than simmons by a mile and curry jr and drummond dont even put a dent in that gap


not a bad trade for the nets either but philly clearly came out on top. watch harden start balling with embiid now.

Harden may very well get in shape and start balling but he is not in his prime anymore and isn’t a spring chicken. Many of his counting stats and advanced stats are the lowest they’ve been since his rookie year. Also the league has eliminated a lot of those fouls that he feasted on previously. And he’s been injured. And he’s owed 47 million next year. 2014-2019 Harden? Philly probably gets multiple chips with him and Embiid. This version of Harden? Well, he didn’t do a whole lot playing next to the best or send best player in the league. Embiid is good, but he is no Durant.

[GOBB]

Imagine cheering for harden lol

Damn you mad them Celtics are some shit.

[AirBonner]

Damn you mad them Celtics are some shit.

We gunna eliminate you again

[Proctor]

https://i.postimg.cc/K8MSrMqD/giphy-5.gif

[Manny98]

Philly got a first class trip to the finals. Harden is gonna play up to his standards, watch

https://i.postimg.cc/gJyppWf1/giphy-5.gif

[fourkicks44]

Wtf is this?

Simmons still hasn't played :oldlol:

[ralph_i_el]

Can I not just think the Nets made a bad move, and that no other team was giving up anything close to that? And that the Nets wouldn't have done this if not for Harden wanting out?

Good for the 6ers tho. I'll be rooting for yall over the Nets, that's for sure.

[Jasper]

Enjoy the hardon and big shrivel second round exit OP:lol

east is tough this year.

Most series I believe will be going at least 6 games.

Simmons out with back injury , was never seen during trade ???
what did he blow a disk , humping one of the church girls in NY ?

[Spuddywebby]

Wtf is this?

Simmons still hasn't played :oldlol:

And if he never plays the nets still won the trade. In Harden’s prime he was a playoff choker, I can’t imagine what this version of Harden is going to look like this playoffs. And Embiid isn’t exactly mr. Clutch. And wait till Morey saddles you guys with a Harden 5 year contract, yikes!