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Spurs m8
02-12-2022, 06:39 PM
The big dog MJ has 8, without inflated stats and against proper defense.

Surely some other big dogs are in the same company?

Second best is Wilt - with half the amount - 4.

What about LeGOAT?
4 as well?
Maybe 3?

Nope.....1.

That same game his team lost and he didn't hit a field goal in OT

Lord :lol:roll:

RogueBorg
02-12-2022, 06:48 PM
The big dog MJ has 8, without inflated stats and against proper defense.

Surely some other big dogs are in the same company?

Second best is Wilt - with half the amount - 4.

What about LeGOAT?
4 as well?
Maybe 3?

Nope.....1.

That same game his team lost and he didn't hit a field goal in OT

Lord :lol:roll:

He also didn't know how many timeouts his team had at the end of the game. Could've prevented the whole J.R. Smith fiasco.

Spurs m8
02-12-2022, 06:49 PM
He also didn't know how many timeouts his team had at the end of the game. Could've prevented the whole J.R. Smith fiasco.

Yep.

And then he sat on the bench, pouted and isolated himself from the team - between 4th and OT.

WHAT.A.LEADER

Full Court
02-12-2022, 06:59 PM
What about LeGOAT?
4 as well?
Maybe 3?

Nope.....1.

That same game his team lost and he didn't hit a field goal in OT

Lord :lol:roll:

How many 50-point finals games does he have?

Because Giannis has one....

WhiteKyrie
02-12-2022, 07:06 PM
How many 50-point finals games does he have?

Because Giannis has one....

Mike has 1. Would've had damn near 70 if game 1 of 1992 Finals was competitive.

ArbitraryWater
02-12-2022, 07:10 PM
LeBron has like 5 49-point games.

OP is the same dude who said overall scoring is a fake record.


but now 50 will be another league than 49.

AirBonner
02-12-2022, 07:14 PM
Tatum has one. Not impressive stat

sdot_thadon
02-12-2022, 07:15 PM
LeBron has like 5 49-point games.

OP is the same dude who said overall scoring is a fake record.


but now 50 will be another league than 49.

Oh yeah that one point is a different tier entirely lol.

WhiteKyrie
02-12-2022, 07:17 PM
LeBron has like 5 49-point games.

OP is the same dude who said overall scoring is a fake record.


but now 50 will be another league than 49.

To be fair, LeBron’s 51 vs GS in game 1 before he pouted and quit was one of the best Finals games I’ve seen someone play since Mike, Iverson and D-Wade.

Spurs m8
02-12-2022, 07:20 PM
LeBron has like 5 49-point games.

OP is the same dude who said overall scoring is a fake record.


but now 50 will be another league than 49.

I didn't say scoring was a fake record.

I said longevity isn't that impressive and doesn't move the needle in rankings.

Scoring averages and things like 50 points performances in playoffs absolutely is impressive..they actually reflect domination...especially when they weren't being stat padded and there weren't inflated stats

sdot_thadon
02-12-2022, 07:27 PM
I didn't say scoring was a fake record.

I said longevity isn't that impressive and doesn't move the needle in rankings.

Scoring averages and things like 50 points performances in playoffs absolutely is impressive..they actually reflect domination...especially when they weren't being stat padded and there weren't inflated stats
Why wouldn't super high quality longevity be impressive? You say longevity as if this is coming due to end of the bench charity or some shit.

SATAN
02-12-2022, 07:30 PM
Michael Jordan was a shot jacking ball hog.

SouBeachTalents
02-12-2022, 07:30 PM
Since playoff scoring is so important, Duncan never scored 50 points once in 250 playoff games. In fact he never came remotely close, his playoff career high is 41, and he needed overtime just to score that many. LeBron has a whopping 27-4 advantage over Duncan in 40 point playoff games, and he surpassed Duncan's 20 year career high of 41 in his very first playoff series.

SouBeachTalents
02-12-2022, 07:32 PM
Why wouldn't super high quality longevity be impressive? You say longevity as if this is coming due to end of the bench charity or some shit.
What makes it so retarded is he acts like we're talking about Robert Parish or something, not a guy with 8 combined MVP's and undoubtedly one of the greatest peaks in league history.

sdot_thadon
02-12-2022, 07:37 PM
What makes it so retarded is he acts like we're talking about Robert Parish or something, not a guy with 8 combined MVP's and undoubtedly one of the greatest peaks in l y eague history.

And aside from all that, still being an elite player this many years in. That's impressive in its own regard.

ClipperRevival
02-13-2022, 01:28 AM
MJ's career playoff PPG is 33.45, next guy is Iverson at 29.73. That's a difference of 3.72. Think about THAT? MJ clearing everyone in history at almost 4 PPG? That's a clear tier.

LeBron fans going gaga this year because he's at 29 PPG versus his usual 27 PPG. But we all know, there is a difference right?

THAT my friends is GOAT sh*t.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0adc9ce761d71fde56e50097e200f172/tenor.gif?itemid=21439210

ClipperRevival
02-13-2022, 01:34 AM
Mike has 1. Would've had damn near 70 if game 1 of 1992 Finals was competitive.

Yup, 35 first half points. Sent a message to the world when everyone said Drexler was the better shooter by hitting a finals record 6 3 pointers.

beasted
02-13-2022, 01:37 AM
Yep.

And then he sat on the bench, pouted and isolated himself from the team - between 4th and OT.

WHAT.A.LEADER

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Spurs m8
02-13-2022, 01:38 AM
MJ's career playoff PPG is 33.45, next guy is Iverson at 29.73. That's a difference of 3.72. Think about THAT? MJ clearing everyone in history at almost 4 PPG? That's a clear tier.

LeBron fans going gaga this year because he's at 29 PPG versus his usual 27 PPG. But we all know, there is a difference right?

THAT my friends is GOAT sh*t.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0adc9ce761d71fde56e50097e200f172/tenor.gif?itemid=21439210

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Spurs m8
02-13-2022, 01:39 AM
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What a fvcking b1tch

:roll::roll:

Westbrook_Fan
02-13-2022, 02:18 AM
MJ's career playoff PPG is 33.45, next guy is Iverson at 29.73. That's a difference of 3.72. Think about THAT? MJ clearing everyone in history at almost 4 PPG? That's a clear tier.

LeBron fans going gaga this year because he's at 29 PPG versus his usual 27 PPG. But we all know, there is a difference right?

THAT my friends is GOAT sh*t.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0adc9ce761d71fde56e50097e200f172/tenor.gif?itemid=21439210


LeBron is at 29ppg at Year 19...

Jordan was 20ppg in Year 14...

Spurs m8
02-13-2022, 02:31 AM
LeBron is at 29ppg at Year 19...

Jordan was 20ppg in Year 14...

Stat padding in a league of inflated stats - while collecting Ls, isn't impressive and doesn't move the needle.
Bonus points for constant failure in the clutch

ClipperRevival
02-13-2022, 02:41 AM
LeBron is at 29ppg at Year 19...

Jordan was 20ppg in Year 14...

Hey there Dray & Klay

:yaohappy:

But to your point, advances in science has clearly moved age for athlete duration. Look at CP3. A 36 yr old 6 foot PG would be done by 32 in the past.

Ditto for tennis. Nadal just won a Grand Slam at 35. In the past, elite players were done by 30. Novak is 35 too and will surely win more Slams too.

Spurs m8
02-13-2022, 02:51 AM
Hey there Dray & Klay

:yaohappy:

But to your point, advances in science has clearly moved age for athlete duration. Look at CP3. A 36 yr old 6 foot PG would be done by 32 in the past.

Ditto for tennis. Nadal just won a Grand Slam at 35. In the past, elite players were done by 30. Novak is 35 too and will surely win more Slams too.

And we all know who the biggest PED abuser in NBA history is....

They don't call him LeBarry for nothing

Axe
02-13-2022, 06:43 AM
Nutty m8 :ohwell:

and he said kong doesn't affect his life at all

coastalmarker99
02-13-2022, 09:23 AM
Wilt most likely would have the record for most 50 point games in the playoffs over Jordan had he not changed his playstyle after 1966.



While on the Warriors, Wilt Chamberlain averaged 34.6ppg over 4 postseasons.


Also in the 36 Playoff games, he played with the Warriors, he had 4 50-point games and 6 40-point games.

In this small sample size with the Warriors.


Wilt was more likely to score 40 points in any given playoff game than Michael Jordan in the same offensive role and more than twice as likely to score 50 points.

Psileas
02-13-2022, 11:14 AM
Wilt most likely would have the record for most 50 point games in the playoffs over Jordan had he not changed his playstyle after 1966.



While on the Warriors, Wilt Chamberlain averaged 34.6ppg over 4 postseasons.


Also in the 36 Playoff games, he played with the Warriors, he had 4 50-point games and 6 40-point games.

In this small sample size with the Warriors.


Wilt was more likely to score 40 points in any given playoff game than Michael Jordan in the same offensive role and more than twice as likely to score 50 points.

Or, had there been 25-30 teams in his prime instead of 8-12, so that he would have enough playoff rounds and faced enough stiffs to pad his totals and averages instead of having to face elite level defenses/defenders in their primes at an absurd ratio of times. Let's not forget, with a few exceptions, most of Jordan's most prolific games and series came in first rounds, not NBA or Conference Finals. They came against the Craig Ehlos, not the Dumarses and the Paytons.

coastalmarker99
02-13-2022, 06:36 PM
Or, had there been 25-30 teams in his prime instead of 8-12, so that he would have enough playoff rounds and faced enough stiffs to pad his totals and averages instead of having to face elite level defenses/defenders in their primes at an absurd ratio of times. Let's not forget, with a few exceptions, most of Jordan's most prolific games and series came in first rounds, not NBA or Conference Finals. They came against the Craig Ehlos, not the Dumarses and the Paytons.


It is interesting to note that Warrior Wilt averaged over 37.9ppg when going up against non-Celtics teams in the playoffs.


Wilt's playoff numbers in his prime truly would have been ridiculous if he had been afforded the luxury to have more playoff rounds so that he could pad his totals and averages against stiffs.




For example, Wilt in 1966 would have posted historic numbers in the playoffs that year.




If he had gotten the luxury to face teams like the royals and New york in the first two rounds before running into Boston.





As if 1966 Wilt in that series against Boston averaged 28.0 ppg, 30.2 RPG and 3.0 APG on 50.9 FG%.

Against an elite defender in Rusell while getting swarmed constantly due to his teammate's inability to hit anything in that series as they somehow collectively shot ... .35.2% from the field.



He most likely averages over 35PPG in a series against New York or the Royals.

ImKobe
02-13-2022, 06:55 PM
Since playoff scoring is so important, Duncan never scored 50 points once in 250 playoff games. In fact he never came remotely close, his playoff career high is 41, and he needed overtime just to score that many. LeBron has a whopping 27-4 advantage over Duncan in 40 point playoff games, and he surpassed Duncan's 20 year career high of 41 in his very first playoff series.

Duncan didn't consistently carry that high of a scoring load though (one 25+ ppg season), and it was much harder to score during his & Kobe's primes in the early 2000s because of how physical the defenses were allowed to be. Shaq didn't get to 50 either, Kobe had 48 and Shaq's peak was 46 during the 3-Peat.

It's a dumb stat tho. Bran didn't get 40+ in the Finals until '15 and his scoring ballooned when the league went small and started breaking ORTG records.

coastalmarker99
02-13-2022, 07:09 PM
Duncan didn't consistently carry that high of a scoring load though (one 25+ ppg season), and it was much harder to score during his & Kobe's primes in the early 2000s because of how physical the defenses were allowed to be. Shaq didn't get to 50 either, Kobe had 48 and Shaq's peak was 46 during the 3-Peat.

It's a dumb stat tho. Bran didn't get 40+ in the Finals until '15 and his scoring ballooned when the league went small and started breaking ORTG records.

LeBron averaged 35/9/7 throughout the entire playoffs in 2009 which is an incredible stat line.


Hell in the ECF vs Orlando Magic while going up against the #1 ranked defence and best rim protector in the league



He averaged 38.5 PPG, 8.3 REB, 8.0 AST on 48.7% FG while dropping 49 points in game 1.


Had they won that series against the Magic.


Lebron without a doubt would have been dropping 40 point bombs on Kobe's head in the finals.



As he did in this game



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoEUd3YfnWc


Also here is a fun fact LeBron was 8-5 against Kobe in their head to head matchups and that was prior to joining the Miami Heat

SATAN
02-13-2022, 07:32 PM
Michael Jordan stans are so cringe worthy.

Gohan
02-13-2022, 07:46 PM
What was lebrons record against iverson before he went to detroit