Doesn't the better protection that natural immunity offers over one's lifetime offset

[3ba11]

the miniscule chance that a young healthy person dies from getting Covid initially?

So why is it misinformation to say that young, healthy people shouldn't get vaccinated if their chances of dying from Covid are lower in the long run with natural immunity?

[Objectivity]

I would like to see a study on antivaxxer average IQ, would be shocked if it is above 90.

[3ba11]

I would like to see a study on antivaxxer average IQ, would be shocked if it is above 90.


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It's called math

If someone has a 0.1% chance of dying from initial Covid infection, but then has 7x better protection after surviving, then pursuing that 7x protection is worth it and the best option

The chances of dying from Covid are lower in the long run with natural immunity for young, healthy people.

Accordingly, young, healthy people should NOT get vaxxed and it isn't misinformation to say this

[TeflonDonTrump]

I would like to see a study on antivaxxer average IQ, would be shocked if it is above 90.

Another low iq comment. Owned by the 2nd post.

[Long Duck Dong]

I would like to see a study on antivaxxer average IQ, would be shocked if it is above 90.

Remember the original anti-vaxxers even before Covid. Vaccines that actually gave over a 95+% immunity and decades to monitor side effects, were wealthy liberals.

[jstern]

This thread should be in Off The Court.

3ball with the common sense.

And if I remember correctly, the 7x more protection is for something like people of certain age, and cormorbidities. Something along those lines. For the average person surviving the Covid offers over 50x protection.

3ball should also look at the VAERS data, with the understanding that by nature it is severely under reported. Look at the deaths, multiply it by at least 8. Look at the adverse reaction, and again multiply it by at least 8.

So if there are 22,000 reported vaccine deaths in the VAERS data for 2021, then multiply that by at least 8.

[bladefd]

You are too late, majority of Americans who are eligible are already vaccinated. Something around the high 70s have at least one vaccine. Who are you preaching to, OP? The ones who are not vaccinated by now are the small minority, and they will probably never likely to get vaccinated anyways. Keep yelling into the wind.

It's too bad considering that 99% of the covid deaths are the unvaccinated. It's their call.

[jstern]

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76% of the population in the UK is vaccinated, and they account for 76.6% of Covid deaths.

I guess you can say that IF the deaths are counted as died with Covid, which is how it's counted in the US, versus dying because of Covid, then you will see more or less the same number of deaths that matches the population. That's my speculation. Since the virus itself has such a high survival rate, and the virus spreads just as easily in the vaccinated as the unvaccinated.

In other words, if we have a group of 100 people with Covid, 70% vaccinated and 30% unvaccinated. And we feed them lethal poison. Then the vaccinated group will account for 70% of Covid deaths within that group, and the unvaccinated 30%.

[Long Duck Dong]

You are too late, majority of Americans who are eligible are already vaccinated. Something around the high 70s have at least one vaccine. Who are you preaching to, OP? The ones who are not vaccinated by now are the small minority, and they will probably never likely to get vaccinated anyways. Keep yelling into the wind.

It's too bad considering that 99% of the covid deaths are the unvaccinated. It's their call.

I think we can all agree, no matter what your stance is on Covid, that it's time to drop all vaccine and mask mandates, and get on with our lives.

At this point Covid protocols are just just about authoritarian control of the population. The science says that cloth masks do not help or prevent the spread of Covid but yet so many of the people you support still insist on it.

[bladefd]

I think we can all agree, no matter what your stance is on Covid, that it's time to drop all vaccine and mask mandates, and get on with our lives.

At this point Covid protocols are just just about authoritarian control of the population. The science says that cloth masks do not help or prevent the spread of Covid but yet so many of the people you support still insist on it.

There is no national vaccine mandate in America. What companies do for themselves is their call.

As far as mask mandates, most states don't have one. The some that do are starting to drop them afaik.

[oldtimer28]

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It's called math

If someone has a 0.1% chance of dying from initial Covid infection, but then has 7x better protection after surviving, then pursuing that 7x protection is worth it and the best option

The chances of dying from Covid are lower in the long run with natural immunity for young, healthy people.

Accordingly, young, healthy people should NOT get vaxxed and it isn't misinformation to say this

Correct. The craziness is that you have people like Dr Robert Malone and other experts warning people but they ignore it.