View Full Version : Should Lakers move on from Anthony Davis?
Jay-B
02-17-2022, 10:14 AM
I think they should, they got 1 title from the Lebron AD tandem which they could always fall back too. This dude cannot stay healthy it’s like he doesn’t know how to jump or land. Trade him during the offseason
theman93
02-17-2022, 10:20 AM
Yes, he won't be able to carry LA to another title being so injury prone. Recoup whatever assets you can for him to start the rebuild for when Lebron inevitably leaves after 2023 and Westbrook's contract expires after 2023.
True 2020 mickey FMVP. He had a good run while it lasted. The Lakers haven't gone anywhere without him being healthy.
Jasper
02-17-2022, 10:35 AM
AD is an asset , just like Kyrie ... he can supply a 1/2 a season and the franchise only has to pay a premium price !!!!!!!!
SouBeachTalents
02-17-2022, 10:41 AM
Considering the haul they could get for him, it’s honestly something to consider. It seems like he’s legitimately incapable of staying healthy.
Wally450
02-17-2022, 10:50 AM
Considering I'd say the odds are LeBron leaves to go wherever his son goes, it doesn't seem like a bad idea to entertain offers. It seems like his value is sort of tanked at this point.
ImKobe
02-17-2022, 11:05 AM
Ok, so which team is giving up the farm for an AD who's been hurt the past 2 seasons? When the Lakers went all in on him, he had played 3 straight healthy seasons (they basically shut him down after the trade request in '18) and was 3 years younger. Sure, a team like the Grizzlies could offer a reasonable trade package but I'd rather move on from Lebron before we lose him for nothing in FA in 2023. AD is still in his 20s and it's not like he's had any major injuries that are lingering so I'd hold onto that asset and not trade the guy after a down year. We know he's one of the 5-10 best players in the league when healthy, the Lakers are probably not getting a top 5-10 player in return that could carry the same kind of load on both ends of the court.
Unless someone can find me a reasonable trade that makes sense in the long term (young star + future picks), it's not worth the trade.
Ok, so which team is giving up the farm for an AD who's been hurt the past 2 seasons? When the Lakers went all in on him, he had played 3 straight healthy seasons (they basically shut him down after the trade request in '18) and was 3 years younger. Sure, a team like the Grizzlies could offer a reasonable trade package but I'd rather move on from Lebron before we lose him for nothing in FA in 2023. AD is still in his 20s and it's not like he's had any major injuries that are lingering so I'd hold onto that asset and not trade the guy after a down year. We know he's one of the 5-10 best players in the league when healthy, the Lakers are probably not getting a top 5-10 player in return that could carry the same kind of load on both ends of the court.
Unless someone can find me a reasonable trade that makes sense in the long term (young star + future picks), it's not worth the trade.
No we don’t. Quit saying this it’s delusional. He has declined considerably since 2020. Top 5 is a joke and frankly banworthy if this board actually dealt with trolls.
Real Men Wear Green
02-17-2022, 11:15 AM
It doesn't matter because the shit James stans will just blame whoever he gets traded for.
1987_Lakers
02-17-2022, 11:18 AM
I would consider it, he has regressed since 2020 and can't stay healthy.
ImKobe
02-17-2022, 11:19 AM
No we don’t. Quit saying this it’s delusional. He has declined considerably since 2020. Top 5 is a joke and frankly banworthy if this board actually dealt with trolls.
What?
The last time he was healthy, he was 1st Team All-NBA, 1st Team All-Defense and helped lead the Lakers to a championship. This happened less than 2 years ago. He hasn't declined as a player, do you not watch Laker games at all? Have you not watched them play in the last 2 weeks?
Only an idiot like you would think that a superstar of AD's caliber would be declining at 28 without having a catastrophic injury..
Oh no, he sprained an ankle! He's finished! Trade him for a bunch of 2nd tier players and go all in with a 38 y.o Lebron who's dealt with injuries himself in 3 of the last 4 seasons!
1987_Lakers
02-17-2022, 11:27 AM
No we don’t. Quit saying this it’s delusional. He has declined considerably since 2020. Top 5 is a joke and frankly banworthy if this board actually dealt with trolls.
I agree, he hasn't done shit to be considered top 5 last season or this season. He has his moments where he looks dominant, then disappears and plays passive. To consider him top 5-10 right now with his inconsistent play and constant injuries is laughable.
Goldrush25
02-17-2022, 01:15 PM
They should have traded him. Really the only chance to drastically change the energy of this team.
He has a low pain tolerance for one, so injuries that normal NBA players play though he doesn't. But he's also more prone for serious injuries (like last night).
Does anyone pay attention to how much AD falls during games? Without fail, there will be 4-5 times a game where he lays up or goes for a block/rebound and somehow he's on the ground. He lands on one leg far too often (as opposed to landing on two feet where you can distribute the energy transferred from the body to the floor). The more you fall the greater chance you have of injury. Same thing with Embiid, he falls *a lot*, and it's just a matter of time as to when he'll be injured again, not if he will. The way they play the game predisposes them to injury.
You contrast that to someone like Lebron or Giannis, they're both so sturdily built and know how to distribute their weight so much better rarely going to fall (at least against his will) during play. AD will always be hurt because he doesn't know how to control his body relative to his surroundings, and his body can't sustain all of the falls to the floor. A 6'0'' guy can, a 6'10'' guy can't, more weight, greater athleticism, more force exerted on the body during falls.
bladefd
02-17-2022, 02:38 PM
I would be all for it, but for who? What star could we possibly get for him?? That would be the main question. Lakers should try to figure out what they could get for him in the summer. Nothing wrong with asking around as long as it is kept on the down low.
AD is nearing the 3-4 year cycle for all of Lebron's teammates
bison
02-17-2022, 02:51 PM
It would be stupid to trade away a top 10 player in the league and top 4 big man. He's coming back in a few weeks by which the Lakers will have already made their late season push (the last two games are indicative of how they have turned the corner). People in this thread are going to look stupid when the Lakers are in the finals this year, that's all i'm gonna say.
It would be stupid to trade away a top 10 player in the league and top 4 big man. He's coming back in a few weeks by which the Lakers will have already made their late season push (the last two games are indicative of how they have turned the corner). People in this thread are going to look stupid when the Lakers are in the finals this year, that's all i'm gonna say.
The Lakers reaching the finals is contingent to AD being healthy and the team playing well together. But stans would have you believe they don't need AD and the rest of the cast. Just Lebron.
Him lasting to play for an 82-game season may actually be too much.
Goldrush25
02-17-2022, 04:03 PM
It would be stupid to trade away a top 10 player in the league and top 4 big man. He's coming back in a few weeks by which the Lakers will have already made their late season push (the last two games are indicative of how they have turned the corner). People in this thread are going to look stupid when the Lakers are in the finals this year, that's all i'm gonna say.
Except he's not a top 10 player. I know people keep saying this but you actually have to bring it every night and be available.
He's a top 5 TALENT but what good is talent if it's in street clothes? Never questioned the guy's ability but he has no heart, low pain tolerance and he doesn't play "big" as often as he should.
Phoenix
02-17-2022, 05:13 PM
No they shouldn't, but I don't think he's THE guy to carry the Lakers post-Lebron when you take into account his recent injury history. He has 1A skills/talent, but in terms of moxie and intangibles( shit that doesn't show up in PER), he's more of a 1B, albeit one hell of one when firing on all cylinders. He'll be 30 if/when Lebron is gone in a couple years, still pretty young, but the Lakers are going to need to attract another superstar level talent on his level down the road.
StrongLurk
02-17-2022, 08:16 PM
I said LAST YEAR that AD never recovered from the bubble/short offseason...and it still shows. Eye test this year shows he's declined some when "healthy"...but he keeps getting injured seemingly every month. Dude has legit superstar talent but his body is failing him.
I said it about a month ago, but the Lakers should just shut down AD for the rest of the year. Lakers aren't doing shit this year and Lebron is dealing with an ailing knee. They should come back fully healthy/rested for next year, and also have an offseason to better figure out how to use Westbrook.
Phoenix
02-17-2022, 09:31 PM
I said LAST YEAR that AD never recovered from the bubble/short offseason...and it still shows. Eye test this year shows he's declined some when "healthy"...but he keeps getting injured seemingly every month. Dude has legit superstar talent but his body is failing him.
I said it about a month ago, but the Lakers should just shut down AD for the rest of the year. Lakers aren't doing shit this year and Lebron is dealing with an ailing knee. They should come back fully healthy/rested for next year, and also have an offseason to better figure out how to use Westbrook.
I honestly think that situation is dead in the water. He'll be a year older and certainly not better, and he's simply not an intangibles or Xs and Os guy. If he doesn't have the ball enough, and he won't when on the same court with Lebron and AD, he's effectively useless, and making a point to increase his usage to appease or maximize him is counter-productive to the teams goal of winning. He's simply not a guy who can exist as a scaled down version of himself, and is too far into his career to switch on the fly to something that compliments Lebron and AD. Which would be along the lines of shooting better, making better decisions with the ball, and playing defense.
Full Court
02-17-2022, 09:32 PM
They should move on from the whole AD/Lebron experiment. That ship has sailed.
kawhileonard2
02-18-2022, 12:40 AM
Without AD the Lakers missed the playoffs and lost in round 1.
SouBeachTalents
02-18-2022, 01:22 AM
Without AD the Lakers missed the playoffs and lost in round 1.
Without Kawhi the Clippers made the conference finals, something they failed to do with Kawhi the year before.
John8204
02-18-2022, 01:35 AM
Frankly the only player they can trade is Lebron because he's the only one who you can get value for. They should try and build a team around him and decide then if he's going to get over his injury issues.
kawhileonard2
02-18-2022, 01:36 AM
Without Kawhi the Clippers made the conference finals, something they failed to do with Kawhi the year before.
With Kawhi the Raptors won a title in it's first year.
Jay-B
02-18-2022, 01:52 AM
To the people who say he’s a top 5-10 player :roll:do you mean in 2018? This guy is closer to the decline then being a superstar, have you watched his games past 2 years? He hardly plays in the post he’s either shooting a jump shot or falling down hard.
LukeWalton
02-18-2022, 03:42 AM
should trade AD for Rudy
Jazz get rid of some one that Mitchell doesnt like
Lakers get some one healthier
Jasper
02-18-2022, 08:22 PM
next year I would try to move him.
When you hire players to play for your franchise , they are supposed to be able to play the whole season ....
that means conditioning .. .
How many millions do these guys get , and when they sprain a finger they are out how many games and how much does the franchise pay them for staying out.
I'd get rid of him and get a boat load of players that are willing to bust some balls
lmao
Full Court
02-19-2022, 12:08 AM
To the people who say he’s a top 5-10 player :roll:do you mean in 2018? This guy is closer to the decline then being a superstar, have you watched his games past 2 years? He hardly plays in the post he’s either shooting a jump shot or falling down hard.
But sometimes he does both at the same time.
warriorfan
02-19-2022, 09:50 AM
I love watching LeBron stans whine
:roll:
Manny98
02-19-2022, 09:58 AM
They should blow it up after this season if they lose in the first round/miss the playoffs
LeBron goes back to the Cavs and AD gets traded to some team for a bunch of young players+picks
FilmyCogTurner
02-19-2022, 04:17 PM
AD's health is definitely a problem but when he is on the floor Russ and Bron don't do much anything to get him involved. It's pretty hard to get going when your own teammates don't look for you.
Thenameless
02-19-2022, 09:42 PM
Except he's not a top 10 player. I know people keep saying this but you actually have to bring it every night and be available.
He's a top 5 TALENT but what good is talent if it's in street clothes? Never questioned the guy's ability but he has no heart, low pain tolerance and he doesn't play "big" as often as he should.
He's already proven he can take a team all the way. But I guess that's part of the problem too - he thinks he has nothing left to prove.
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