NBA 75 Ultimate Draft on TNT

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hohlENK_xQ4

This was pretty cool

[jlip]

It was actually interesting and somewhat enjoyable. Watching this, I realized that the average ISH poster actually knows more about the history of the league than most players and sports media personalities. Jerry West was basically the only person on there that knew anything about the history of the game prior to 1975 other than the big names such as Wilt, Russell, and Big O. Quavo and D. L. Hughley were a complete waste of time and space. The Inside the NBA crew had me cracking up.

[Shogon]

It was actually interesting and somewhat enjoyable. Watching this, I realized that the average ISH poster actually knows more about the history of the league than most players and sports media personalities. Jerry West was basically the only person on there that knew anything about the history of the game prior to 1975 other than the big names such as Wilt, Russell, and Big O. Quavo and D. L. Hughley were a complete waste of time and space. The Inside the NBA crew had me cracking up.

I wouldn't say average ISH poster but there are certainly a bunch of posters here that pay closer attention to the league in general than most media personalities, commentators, ex players, etc.

There are a small handful of posters here that would be able to GM better than certain active NBA GMs. But you know it's easy for me to say that because the pressure to "win now" literally all of the time in an instant gratification society... I'm probably being unfair to them. But yeah, lots of brain dead short term thinking going on in the NBA pretty much year after year after year.

[John_Connor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hohlENK_xQ4

This was pretty cool

but jerry picked kobe over Lebron for the first real pick of the draft ( basically #1 overall )


ouch

[highwhey]

I wouldn't say average ISH poster but there are certainly a bunch of posters here that pay closer attention to the league in general than most media personalities, commentators, ex players, etc.

There are a small handful of posters here that would be able to GM better than certain active NBA GMs. But you know it's easy for me to say that because the pressure to "win now" literally all of the time in an instant gratification society... I'm probably being unfair to them. But yeah, lots of brain dead short term thinking going on in the NBA pretty much year after year after year.

kblaze?

[John_Connor]

can't believe wilt made it back to jerry in round 2 LOL


this is why only he ever had a job doing this for a living of out of these people

[RRR3]

but jerry picked kobe over Lebron for the first real pick of the draft ( basically #1 overall )


ouch
Jerry said LeBron was better 12 years ago lmfao. Meltdown. Didn't you say you were gonna quit posting?

[John_Connor]

Jerry said LeBron was better 12 years ago lmfao. Meltdown. Didn't you say you were gonna quit posting?

wrong

https://youtu.be/WKYyAC6PGvA?t=124


"you're talking about players playing right now so lebron has surpassed him" lol


he didn't mean all time. obviously lebron in 2009 wouldn't be ranked above kobe for careers. and that was on the down slope of kobes prime. his peak was 2006


the quote was taken out of context

[1987_Lakers]

It was actually interesting and somewhat enjoyable. Watching this, I realized that the average ISH poster actually knows more about the history of the league than most players and sports media personalities. Jerry West was basically the only person on there that knew anything about the history of the game prior to 1975 other than the big names such as Wilt, Russell, and Big O. Quavo and D. L. Hughley were a complete waste of time and space. The Inside the NBA crew had me cracking up.

At one point The Inside the NBA crew... Kenny picked Clyde Drexler pretty early in the draft, Ernie asked Barkley if he liked the pick and he just stayed silent. Also was funny seeing Chuck reject Kenny's idea of picking Elvin Hayes "No way in hell". lol.

I think "According to Sources" and the "NBA on TNT Tuesday" crew with Wade had the best teams. Sue Bird actually did a nice job drafting too, much better than I expected.

[1987_Lakers]

Also cool how Jerry West revealed drafting James Worthy over Dominique Wilkins was one of his toughest decisions he ever had to make as a GM.

[L.Kizzle]

Chuck hating on Clyde when they best the Suns.

[John_Connor]

not surprised at all by team TNT racists kenny and shaqs reaction to chucks dave cowens pick

[RRR3]

Kenny calling anyone racist. Shut up you ****ing klansman

[1987_Lakers]

Chuck hating on Clyde when they best the Suns.

It wasn't just Chuck, even Shaq was like "Oh hell no" at the Drexler pick. :oldlol:

Round 3 is wayyy to early for him to be taken. They probably had the 2nd to worst team, the worst team was that rappers team, it was full of cancers.

[jlip]

Also cool how Jerry West revealed drafting James Worthy over Dominique Wilkins was one of his toughest decisions he ever had to make as a GM.

Yeah. That was interesting too. Dominique seemed to have wished West had taken him. I couldn't imagine how different his and Worthy's careers would have been if the tables were turned. West was dropping some real knowledge about 60's and 70's players, and he was also rather humorous. I loved the story he told about Bill Sharman trying to get Wilt to show up at shoot arounds. Everybody was avoiding picking Sharman after Sue Bird mentioned that he invented shoot arounds.

That Inside the NBA crew had me rolling. You're spot on about Barkley's reaction to Kenny's Drexler pick.

[Mask the Embiid]

It was actually interesting and somewhat enjoyable. Watching this, I realized that the average ISH poster actually knows more about the history of the league than most players and sports media personalities. Jerry West was basically the only person on there that knew anything about the history of the game prior to 1975 other than the big names such as Wilt, Russell, and Big O. Quavo and D. L. Hughley were a complete waste of time and space. The Inside the NBA crew had me cracking up.

Well of course he was :oldlol: he was damn near the only one on the stage even alive in 1975 :oldlol:. Damn sure was the only one of age in 1975 to watch and appreciate the players playing before 1975 + he competed vs damn near every player on the list (as a Gm too). So he actually seen them play, no one else could see out of market games in 1975 that was alive on that set :oldlol:…. Charles Barkley was poor….and a damn kid

[L.Kizzle]

It wasn't just Chuck, even Shaq was like "Oh hell no" at the Drexler pick. :oldlol:

Round 3 is wayyy to early for him to be taken. They probably had the 2nd to worst team, the worst team was that rappers team, it was full of cancers.
Dominique took himself first and they ain't say nothing. And Chuck took Dave Cowens next i think lol.
DL Hughley took McHale and Quavo took Rodman, both in the 3rd round as well.

[rmt]

At one point The Inside the NBA crew... Kenny picked Clyde Drexler pretty early in the draft, Ernie asked Barkley if he liked the pick and he just stayed silent. Also was funny seeing Chuck reject Kenny's idea of picking Elvin Hayes "No way in hell". lol.

I think "According to Sources" and the "NBA on TNT Tuesday" crew with Wade had the best teams. Sue Bird actually did a nice job drafting too, much better than I expected.

A lot of recency bias in Sue Bird's team - Anthony Davis when David Robinson is still on the board? And it was obvious she didn't have a clue who any of the older players were. Davis who already doesn't like to play the 5 would get killed by the ATG bigs.

BTW, it's criminal that Anthony Davis and Lilliard made this 75 over Dwight Howard and Ben Wallace.

[L.Kizzle]

A lot of recency bias in Sue Bird's team - Anthony Davis when David Robinson is still on the board. And it was obvious she didn't have a clue who any of the older players were. Davis who already doesn't like to play the 5 would get killed by the ATG bigs.

BTW, it's criminal that Anthony Davis and Lilliard made this 75 over Dwight Howard and Ben Wallace.
Dame made the top 75 and hasn't been heard from since.

[John8204]

1. Jerry West
2. TNT Tuesday
3. According to Sources
4. Sue Bird
5. Hughley
6. Dominique
7. Quavos
8. Inside the NBA

Jerry West :bowdown:
C - Wilt, Robinson, Thurmond
SG - Kobe, Sharrman
PG - Stockton
SF - Havlick, Baylor
PF - Barkley, Carmello

TNT on Tuesday
C- Shaq, Parish, Mikan
SG - West, Klay, Monroe
PG - CP3, Cousy
SF - Pippen,
PF - Durant

ATS
C- Bill, Reed
SG - Jordan, Ray Allen
PG - Magic, Dame
PF - Bosh
SF - Leonard, Barry, Arizin

Bird
C - Jokic, Davis
PG - Lebron, Nash
SG - Maravich, Jones
PF - Garnett, DeBusschere
SF - Bird, Worthy

Hughley
C -Hakeem, Walton
PG - Kidd, Payton, Bing
SG -McGrady
PF - Duncan, McHale
SF - Dirk, Lucas

Dominique
C - Moses, Ewing,
SG - Harden,
PG - Oscar, Wilkens
PF - Malone, Pettit, Schayes
SF - Wilkins,Pierce

Quavo
C - Giannis
SG - Iverson, Gervin, Greer
PG - Curry, Frazier, Westbrook
PF - Rodman, Hayes
SF - Dr Jay

Inside the NBA
C - Kareem, Cowens, McAdoo
SG - Wade, Drexler, Miller
PG - Isiah, Archibald
SF - Unseld,
PF - Cunningham

[rmt]

Dame made the top 75 and hasn't been heard from since.

More recency bias - stupid choice for NBA 75 - what has he ever done? Dwight has led a team to the Finals and won DPOY 3 times. Ben won DPOY 4 times, a ring and if they had beaten the Spurs - probably would have won a FMVP.

[rmt]

1. Jerry West
2. TNT Tuesday
3. According to Sources
4. Sue Bird
5. Hughley
6. Dominique
7. Quavos
8. Inside the NBA

Jerry West :bowdown:
C - Wilt, Robinson, Thurmond
SG - Kobe, Sharrman
PG - Stockton
SF - Havlick, Baylor
PF - Barkley, Carmello

TNT on Tuesday
C- Shaq, Parish, Mikan
SG - West, Klay, Monroe
PG - CP3, Cousy
SF - Pippen,
PF - Durant

ATS
C- Bill, Reed
SG - Jordan, Ray Allen
PG - Magic, Dame
PF - Bosh
SF - Leonard, Barry, Arizin

Bird
C - Jokic, Davis
PG - Lebron, Nash
SG - Maravich, Jones
PF - Garnett, DeBusschere
SF - Bird, Worthy

Hughley
C -Hakeem, Walton
PG - Kidd, Payton, Bing
SG -McGrady
PF - Duncan, McHale
SF - Dirk, Lucas

Dominique
C - Moses, Ewing,
SG - Harden,
PG - Oscar, Wilkens
PF - Malone, Pettit, Schayes
SF - Wilkins,Pierce

Quavo
C - Giannis
SG - Iverson, Gervin, Greer
PG - Curry, Frazier, Westbrook
PF - Rodman, Hayes
SF - Dr Jay

Inside the NBA
C - Kareem, Cowens, McAdoo
SG - Wade, Drexler, Miller
PG - Isiah, Archibald
SF - Unseld,
PF - Cunningham

I think ATS has the best team.

[John8204]

I think ATS has the best team.

They are going to have to run all four guards or MJ going to have to score 50-60pts

Jerry's team has Barkley/Wilt on the inside with Kobe/Stockton on the outside

[Soundwave]

ATS would've won it if they didn't blow their wild card.

Joel Embiid is a way, way better WC pick than freaking Chris Bosh, lulz. I would take Chris Webber over Chris Bosh.

C - Embiid
PF - Russell
SF - Kawhi
SG - Jordan
PG - Magic

Then just run Dame, Willis Reed, Allen off the bench. Should've found a way to get Nate Thurmond also. I would've taken Giannis over Bill Russell too.

[John_Connor]

west #1, Hughley #2


sorry nba tnt on Tuesdays but analytics aren't everything

[John_Connor]

I think ATS has the best team.

can't put a team with bosh in its starting lineup #1 sorry lol

[iamgine]

I thought Sue Bird had a pretty good team and didn't deserve to be last.

Nash
Lebron
Bird
KG
AD/Jokic

[John_Connor]

I thought Sue Bird had a pretty good team and didn't deserve to be last.

Nash
Lebron
Bird
KG
AD/Jokic

analytic formula lebron fans stand buy ranked his team the worst. kind of poetic tbh

[John8204]

I thought Sue Bird had a pretty good team and didn't deserve to be last.

Nash
Lebron
Bird
KG
AD/Jokic

Sue was doing so well with her first three picks and then it just fell off a cliff with Nash and AD, she could have gotten Ewing/Robinson/Mikan as her center and Frazier/Kidd/Archibald as her PG

[Soundwave]

ATS got gifted Jordan and Magic to start with, hard to luck into a better duo than that to build around, but they should have taken Giannis next and used their wild card on Embiid. Kawhi was a solid pick.

C - Embiid
PF - Giannis
SF - Kawhi
SG - Jordan
PG - Magic

Bench: Dame, W. Reed, Ray Allen, who cares

Of the teams picked I think the TNT squad would actually be the best ... Shaq + Durant + CP3 + West is a good core.



Forget it. A fast break with Magic running it and Giannis and Jordan on the wings .... game over. Giannis is basically the perfect player for a Magic Johnson to play with, he'd just rack up 20 assists per game with him coming downhill.

[iamgine]

Sue was doing so well with her first three picks and then it just fell off a cliff with Nash and AD, she could have gotten Ewing/Robinson/Mikan as her center and Frazier/Kidd/Archibald as her PG

Tbh I think AD's better than Ewing/Mikan. And Nash was better than those three but I guess Kidd would fit better.

[HALLandOATES]

Dominique ruined it right off the bat…ai way to high to. Wade is top 15 so he’s not that off

[1987_Lakers]

Sue was doing so well with her first three picks and then it just fell off a cliff with Nash and AD, she could have gotten Ewing/Robinson/Mikan as her center and Frazier/Kidd/Archibald as her PG

I would have taken D-Rob over AD for sure. But she built a nice team overall. Grabbing Bron, Bird, and KG as your first 3 picks is filthy. Also nice job drafting Jokic as your wild card pick.

[Jasper]

barkley talking about wilt and Baylor nailed it ..... just scary

[ImKobe]

Great draft. Jerry West knows Kobe's the GOAT.

[rmt]

They are going to have to run all four guards or MJ going to have to score 50-60pts

Jerry's team has Barkley/Wilt on the inside with Kobe/Stockton on the outside

Why do you think that? They have Dame and Ray for 3 pt shooting, MJ, Kawhi and Bosh for mid-range - and Barry is not chopped liver (scoring champ in '67, All-ABA 1st team 4 times, All-NBA 1st team 5 times).

[Im Still Ballin]

My guy Kevin McHale picked in the 3rd round.

#DeyKnow

[John_Connor]

barkley talking about wilt and Baylor nailed it ..... just scary

wilt and Baylor actually played together and never did shit. Barkley was referring to kobe and wilt as the scary thing

[1987_Lakers]

wilt and Baylor actually played together and never did shit. Barkley was referring to kobe and wilt as the scary thing

Lol at taking Barkley's opinion serious. He took Iverson as his first pick a few years ago.

[L.Kizzle]

My guy Kevin McHale picked in the 3rd round.

#DeyKnow
Picked by a comedian tho ... lol.

[fsvr54]

Once I saw Quavo and two hoes I didn't feel like watching. This inclusion BS is too much

[L.Kizzle]

Once I saw Quavo and two hoes I didn't feel like watching. This inclusion BS is too much
He didn't know half of the guys he picked.

[John_Connor]

Lol at taking Barkley's opinion serious. He took Iverson as his first pick a few years ago.

he thought it was for a fantasy allstar game. but I don't know what point you're trying to prove. he actually said something correct in this instance.

[1987_Lakers]

he thought it was for a fantasy allstar game. but I don't know what point you're trying to prove. he actually said something correct in this instance.

Go back and watch the vid, he was referring to Kobe, Wilt, and Baylor as being scary. Weird of you to try to ignore the Baylor part.

Jerry West has a good team. He picked some guys like D-Rob who should have been taken way earlier. But if you look at it from top to bottom is obviously lacks some shooting. His team would get smoked by "According to Sources" And the "TNT Tuesday" teams.

[fsvr54]

He didn't know half of the guys he picked.

I ended up watching most of it LOL. You're right and Sue Bird has pretty poor team construction IQ and little knowledge of the game's history

[L.Kizzle]

I ended up watching most of it LOL. You're right and Sue Bird has pretty poor team construction IQ and little knowledge of the game's history
Im surprised she didn't know Bill Sharman and some of the other older guys.

Dolph Schayes went last. A guy with 12 All NBA Teams and 14 All Star appearances and the best player on a title team.

[1987_Lakers]

I ended up watching most of it LOL. You're right and Sue Bird has pretty poor team construction IQ and little knowledge of the game's history

I disagree with the first part. She did a nice job surrounding LeBron with shooters. She would have nailed her first 5 picks if she went D-Rob instead of AD.

As the draft went on her lack of history knowledge caught up to her. She was asking Jerry West to pick for her. Lol.

For what's its worth Realgm thinks she had the 2nd best team. I'm on the phone so I can't link their thread, buts you can search for it if you want.

[jlip]

I think the reason that 'Nique selected himself first was because he didn't fully understand what was going on. He seemed to be under the impression that not all 75 players would be picked. It's as though he was having flashbacks from getting left off the top 50 list 25 years ago. EJ and Barkley had to tell him that everybody on the board was going to be picked.

On another note, EJ was being petty when Nash was picked. He asked Shaq how many MVPs Nash had, and Shaq responded by saying that Nash had two of his. Evidently Shaq is still bitter about the 2005 MVP because he didn't come close to winning the 2006 MVP.

I know this was already mentioned, but I really want to know what the beef between Barkley and Drexler is about. I knew that Pippen and Barkley didn't get along in Houston, but I didn't know that Drexler and Barkley had issues.

[jlip]

Im surprised she didn't know Bill Sharman and some of the other older guys.

Dolph Schayes went last. A guy with 12 All NBA Teams and 14 All Star appearances and the best player on a title team.

I thought that Sam Jones would have been picked a little sooner. It appears that the only people that knew anything about him was West who obviously played against him for years and Shaq. But all Shaq seemed to know was that he had 10 rings. Bill Russell basically considered Sam Jones the greatest clutch shooter he ever knew.

[John_Connor]

I think the reason that 'Nique selected himself first was because he didn't fully understand what was going on. He seemed to be under the impression that not all 75 players would be picked. It's as though he was having flashbacks from getting left off the top 50 list 25 years ago. EJ and Barkley had to tell him that everybody on the board was going to be picked.

On another note, EJ was being petty when Nash was picked. He asked Shaq how many MVPs Nash had, and Shaq responded by saying that Nash had two of his. Evidently Shaq is still bitter about the 2005 MVP because he didn't come close to winning the 2006 MVP.

I know this was already mentioned, but I really want to know what the beef between Barkley and Drexler is about. I knew that Pippen and Barkley didn't get along in Houston, but I didn't know that Drexler and Barkley had issues.

nique knew exactly what was going on and the dudes been insecure about his career and Jordan being the goat since the early 90s cause he looked at him as a rival and genuinely believed he was the better of the 2. he also believes he was robbed in the dunk contest. it was his one moment to be ahead of jordan and he took it

if you ask zeke, Stockton and Malone they'll be the same way and say they don't see mj as the goat and he's just some regular dude to them. same with Payton. they all believe they're on his level or above

[L.Kizzle]

I think the reason that 'Nique selected himself first was because he didn't fully understand what was going on. He seemed to be under the impression that not all 75 players would be picked. It's as though he was having flashbacks from getting left off the top 50 list 25 years ago. EJ and Barkley had to tell him that everybody on the board was going to be picked.

On another note, EJ was being petty when Nash was picked. He asked Shaq how many MVPs Nash had, and Shaq responded by saying that Nash had two of his. Evidently Shaq is still bitter about the 2005 MVP because he didn't come close to winning the 2006 MVP.

I know this was already mentioned, but I really want to know what the beef between Barkley and Drexler is about. I knew that Pippen and Barkley didn't get along in Houston, but I didn't know that Drexler and Barkley had issues.
Barkley is a hater. Drex probably said Chuck was out of shape or something.

[1987_Lakers]

Barkley is a hater. Drex probably said Chuck was out of shape or something.

lol, I don't this is the case. Barkley is always a good sport.

Shaq also hated the Drexler pick, is he a hater too?

[L.Kizzle]

lol, I don't this is the case. Barkley is always a good sport.

Shaq also hated the Drexler pick, is he a hater too?
Shaq not Clyde former teammate tho.
Chuck was holding his tongue and he usually don't lol.

[1987_Lakers]

Shaq not Clyde former teammate tho.
Chuck was holding his tongue and he usually don't lol.

He dissed him if you listen closely. In their next pick he said "we need someone who could dribble" that was a shot at Drexler, he was still upset at the previous pick.

I think you are overanalyzing the situation, both Kenny and Shaq threw a hissy fit when Chuck picked Cowens. They simply didn't like the picks, not because they hate them, lol.

And shout out to McHale getting drafted before Karl Malone, I know you didn't like that. :oldlol:

[Im Still Ballin]

He dissed him if you listen closely. In their next pick he said "we need someone who could dribble" that was a shot at Drexler, he was still upset at the previous pick.

I think you are overanalyzing the situation, both Kenny and Shaq threw a hissy fit when Chuck picked Cowens. They simply didn't like the picks, not because they hate them, lol.

At shout out to McHale getting drafted before Karl Malone, I know you didn't like that. :oldlol:

:D