Does anyone actually believe that Joe Biden & Kamala Harris are running the country?

[Shogon]

Just a thought... looking at Kamala speaking about economic sanctions against Russia, she looks shook. She absolutely does not project confidence or authority. Joe Biden doesn't know where he is half the time.

I am pretty sure every modern president falls in line with the establishment except for Trump and that's why we saw such a massive attack on his character for 5 years. But even Trump himself did to an extent despite all of his rhetoric about draining the swamp.

So it begs the question, who has the loudest voice/who are the loudest voices behind the scenes? Or is it a group of people? Not that it matters anyways because none of us are doing jack shit about it, but it's interesting nevertheless.

[FultzNationRISE]

Just a thought... looking at Kamala speaking about economic sanctions against Russia, she looks shook. She absolutely does not project confidence or authority. Joe Biden doesn't know where he is half the time.

I am pretty sure every modern president falls in line with the establishment except for Trump and that's why we saw such a massive attack on his character for 5 years. But even Trump himself did to an extent despite all of his rhetoric about draining the swamp.

So it begs the question, who has the loudest voice/who are the loudest voices behind the scenes? Or is it a group of people? Not that it matters anyways because none of us are doing jack shit about it, but it's interesting nevertheless.

Who runs the country/world?

Right now, a cabal of insiders from previous generations.

Who will run it when theyre gone?

That’s where we come in ;) (https://www.patreon.com/TofP)

[diamenz]

Just a thought... looking at Kamala speaking about economic sanctions against Russia, she looks shook. She absolutely does not project confidence or authority. Joe Biden doesn't know where he is half the time.

I am pretty sure every modern president falls in line with the establishment except for Trump and that's why we saw such a massive attack on his character for 5 years. But even Trump himself did to an extent despite all of his rhetoric about draining the swamp.

So it begs the question, who has the loudest voice/who are the loudest voices behind the scenes? Or is it a group of people? Not that it matters anyways because none of us are doing jack shit about it, but it's interesting nevertheless.

you already know how this works, shogon. but right now? obviously the military industrial complex, the pentagon and the generals constantly in his ear. of course a joe biden or a businessman like a trump lack both the knowledge and especially the critical thinking skills to piece together the current imperialist chessboard... so the only thing he can do is listen to these entities that are most likely misleading him into a pro-war stance.

it's of course not a simple subject and i can't speak on these things in any kind of a nuanced way either... but my concern is; are putin's demands really worth the possibility of nuclear warfare? because once things start popping off and there's a hot war... ... aint no tellin'.

although i will say... i do wonder where trump would stand on this. if anything, we would have had a better chance with him being anti-war just because of his stubborn personality and pursuit of controversy.I

so yeah - joe's not running the show.

[Cleverness]

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[BigKobeFan]

Its killery

[bladefd]

you already know how this works, shogon. but right now? obviously the military industrial complex, the pentagon and the generals constantly in his ear. of course a joe biden or a businessman like a trump lack both the knowledge and especially the critical thinking skills to piece together the current imperialist chessboard... so the only thing he can do is listen to these entities that are most likely misleading him into a pro-war stance.

it's of course not a simple subject and i can't speak on these things in any kind of a nuanced way either... but my concern is; are putin's demands really worth the possibility of nuclear warfare? because once things start popping off and there's a hot war... ... aint no tellin'.

although i will say... i do wonder where trump would stand on this. if anything, we would have had a better chance with him being anti-war just because of his stubborn personality and pursuit of controversy.I

so yeah - joe's not running the show.

There won't be a war between Russia and USA lol. You don't need to worry about that. The issue is going to be how severe will the sanctions be and how far will they be willing to go with sanctions.

As for the question of who has the loudest voice.. It usually is the cabinet and more so his direct advisers. Those direct advisers hold tremendous power as pretty much the last line. They control what information gets the most focus and what gets pushed aside. I don't know who those closest direct advisers/aides are for Biden, but they are with the president every day. They are involved in meetings and decision-making.

[Shogon]

you already know how this works, shogon. but right now? obviously the military industrial complex, the pentagon and the generals constantly in his ear. of course a joe biden or a businessman like a trump lack both the knowledge and especially the critical thinking skills to piece together the current imperialist chessboard... so the only thing he can do is listen to these entities that are most likely misleading him into a pro-war stance.

it's of course not a simple subject and i can't speak on these things in any kind of a nuanced way either... but my concern is; are putin's demands really worth the possibility of nuclear warfare? because once things start popping off and there's a hot war... ... aint no tellin'.

although i will say... i do wonder where trump would stand on this. if anything, we would have had a better chance with him being anti-war just because of his stubborn personality and pursuit of controversy.I

so yeah - joe's not running the show.

I personally, if I had to guess, think it's a combination of some extremely large corporations that are at the "bottom" of it all in addition to certain factions within the intelligence community.

Yes, obviously the "military industrial complex" has an extremely large influence, but when we use that term I think it's important to identify who the loudest voices are in that "group of people." I don't think it's actually the generals or anyone working for the military. I think it's the guys that are running Lockheed, Raytheon, Northrop, etc. And it's crazy to think that some of these guys have larger influence than elected politicians, but I believe that's likely.

I think it's probably no more complicated than the fact that Washington is comprised of a bunch of psychopaths that are constantly jousting for power behind the scenes in such a way that the public will literally never know. I, however, do NOT think it's as sinister as a single group of people meeting together and discussing how exactly the world is going to go next.

I think the unfortunate truth is that the world is a rudderless place and the psychopaths behind the scenes are all just trying to instill as much influence as they can before the next one up.

[j3lademaster]

Its killeryYour hate is blinding you. She isn't close to rich enough.

@OP it's the oligarchy of conglomerates. CME owns 90% of the Dow and can literally will the fluctuations as they please, and you would be surprised at how little people know what CME even stands for without googling it... THAT powerful of an entity. Hell, I've run into people who haven't even heard of Alphabet or know what Berkshire Hathaway actually does.

Said oligarchs own banks who own stock in the FED(yes the fed is basically privatized with a paid off board of govt officials 'overlooking' then) and control inflation. Inflation ofc inflates the assets of the rich while leaving paycheck to paycheck folks(over half of the population) in an even worse off situation. Of course they need a balance between inflating and pitchforks, so inflate accordingly while convincing the masses no handouts... pull yourself up by your own bootstraps... yada yada.

Whenever I see someone blame Biden for inflation I chuckle a bit.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Same logic applies to who is running the NFL... you think it's Roger Goodell?


Look at what Larry Johnson has to say:


https://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Larry-Johnson-tweets.png

[FultzNationRISE]

Same logic applies to who is running the NFL... you think it's Roger Goodell?


Look at what Larry Johnson has to say:


https://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Larry-Johnson-tweets.png

:lebronamazed:


LJ goin HAM, holy shit :roll:

(I dont agree that ALL of that is a planned conspiracy, but props for havin the balls to publicly @ the NFL this way regardless)

[tpols]

OPs social credit score.

-10,000 points subtracted.

[tpols]

Just a thought... looking at Kamala speaking about economic sanctions against Russia, she looks shook. She absolutely does not project confidence or authority. Joe Biden doesn't know where he is half the time.

I am pretty sure every modern president falls in line with the establishment except for Trump and that's why we saw such a massive attack on his character for 5 years. But even Trump himself did to an extent despite all of his rhetoric about draining the swamp.

So it begs the question, who has the loudest voice/who are the loudest voices behind the scenes? Or is it a group of people? Not that it matters anyways because none of us are doing jack shit about it, but it's interesting nevertheless.

Trump was a psych-OP candidate to rally the left. Trump was paraded and hated around the entire western world to galvanize the other side into cheering on the extreme measures that were put into place literally the second he left office. I'm a trump guy but can still see he's a part of the big boys club. He knows himself exactly what his role is. You have to be a fool to not realize this is all carefully planned and orchestrated by wealthy elite interests.

[FultzNationRISE]

Trump was a psych-OP candidate to rally the left. Trump was paraded and hated around the entire western world to galvanize the other side into cheering on the extreme measures that were put into place literally the second he left office. I'm a trump guy but can still see he's a part of the big boys club. He knows himself exactly what his role is. You have to be a fool to not realize this is all carefully planned and orchestrated by wealthy elite interests.


It's this.

They basically flipped the left's values through one massive freak-out from being the free thinking, anti-establishment, civil liberties crowd into the marching, obedient, fascist storm troopers for the state.

Hilarious, but also inevitable.

[tpols]

It's this.

They basically flipped the left's values through one massive freak-out from being the free thinking, anti-establishment, civil liberties crowd into the marching, obedient, fascist storm troopers for the state.

Hilarious, but also inevitable.

Yup.

From being the anti-Big Pharma, marching in the streets against the 1% on Wall Street to literally sucking their d!cks. I frequent reddit and am astonished at the about turn face. Its absolutely incredible.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Trump was a psych-OP candidate to rally the left. Trump was paraded and hated around the entire western world to galvanize the other side into cheering on the extreme measures that were put into place literally the second he left office. I'm a trump guy but can still see he's a part of the big boys club. He knows himself exactly what his role is. You have to be a fool to not realize this is all carefully planned and orchestrated by wealthy elite interests.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f6/d0/60/f6d060b26b75ec4362112f957fe20bc1--top-movies-the-times.jpg

[FultzNationRISE]

Yup.

From being the anti-Big Pharma, marching in the streets against the 1% on Wall Street to literally sucking their d!cks. I frequent reddit and am astonished at the about turn face. Its absolutely incredible.

NPC's gonna NPC.

The game couldnt exist without em.

[Doomsday Dallas]

So it begs the question, who has the loudest voice/who are the loudest voices behind the scenes? Or is it a group of people? Not that it matters anyways because none of us are doing jack shit about it, but it's interesting nevertheless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bAhW6Hd04c

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[Jasper]

I believe Jstern and Patrick are running the country

That is why the country is in a shit hole ..... lmao

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[The Hick]

There won't be a war between Russia and USA lol.

Shut your mouth

If there was a Konex Curse version of the OTC it would be you

[Off the Court]

All sorts of tarded tin foil hat shit in here. :oldlol:

Some of you have gotten to the point where you just flat out reject the idea that life is real. Every facet of everything ever was carefully plotted and planned long ago.

[Off the Court]

Same logic applies to who is running the NFL... you think it's Roger Goodell?


Look at what Larry Johnson has to say:


https://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Larry-Johnson-tweets.png


Larry Johnson is mentally ill diagnosed biopolar and CTE. He claims that Bron exchanged the life of Kobe Bryant in a blood sacrifice so that the Lakers could win the 2020 Finals. You are literally siding with a crazy person, he is 100% nuts.

[Shogon]

All sorts of tarded tin foil hat shit in here. :oldlol:

Some of you have gotten to the point where you just flat out reject the idea that life is real. Every facet of everything ever was carefully plotted and planned long ago.

You're a bit of a fool if you just think it's "well the president runs the country and that's that, no more to see here." And I'm not simply talking about presidential advisers, either.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmW21WF6n3s

If this right here is not proof enough for you that world view is foolish, well, nothing will prove it to you.

Furthermore, if you don't think politicians have backdoor deals with large corporations, well, lol.

[Off the Court]

Shogon your takes are usually reasonable. As already outlined in here obviously every POTUS has advisers instructing them on which buttons to push. And no single man can have a full grasp of military, economy, Healthcare, etc. And it is very reasonable to believe deals are made with corporations and corruption exists. Some of which isn't even hidden.

All of that is a far cry from the idea that Trump was placed in office by elites to enrage the left or was an actor his entire time in office. Or that the NFL had a hidden agenda to make everyone gay :oldlol: Tin foil tardism is very real and I think you're smart enough to acknowledge that.

[Shogon]

Shogon your takes are usually reasonable. As already outlined in here obviously every POTUS has advisers instructing them on which buttons to push. And no single man can have a full grasp of military, economy, Healthcare, etc. And it is very reasonable to believe deals are made with corporations and corruption exists. Some of which isn't even hidden.

All of that is a far cry from the idea that Trump was placed in office by elites to enrage the left or was an actor his entire time in office. Or that the NFL had a hidden agenda to make everyone gay :oldlol: Tin foil tardism is very real and I think you're smart enough to acknowledge that.


I never said that Trump was placed in office by elites/the establishment because I'm not a conspiracy nut on much of anything other than the JFK assassination and the federal reserve/the United States dollar. If anything, he most definitely was not. Do not conflate the shit coming out of other posters with the shit coming out of me.

Well, 9/11 had some very interesting coincidences/reactions by the US government as well, but I think it's just more likely that we purposefully let it happen rather than made it happen ourselves.

[FultzNationRISE]

Jizzo Files (I rank you, you listen and improve or continue down the wrong path)

GOBB - We all know his history, but his recent history is weak, kid's gone soft, lost his edge, I enjoy his DaHeezy efforts more than this new GOBB. Should go back to '07 GOBB or get back into form with some Voice of Reason. As a mean pr*ck he rocks, but this softer cuddly GOBB, he's like Charmin, we all want the industrial grade bumble clot.

SoCalMike - Pimp, Lakers, that is his bag. A rare voice of reason in the LaLa insane asylum so I rate him for that. I do enjoy his forays into the OTC, he should be there more.

GTS - same as pimpjuice above minus the pimp. But he aint no one's ho.

Hotsizzle - not even much sizzle these days(let alone steak), kid used to be all over the board, now he seems bored. Maybe he's a regular season guy, maybe the Celtics crushed the hearts of all of LaLa.

Stroshow - Mainer cracks me up, kid rocks ISH 24/7, shows good versatility and com-sense too. Comfortable in both the OTC and the NBA.

iseenhippos - got back to being a d*ck (and we are all better off), this is where he shines and his humor comes out, that two week run as captain friendly got old fast, luckily he recognized that. Winning or losing the argument hippos entertains, and possesses a lot of cursory knowledge.

statman32 - ISH resident private d*ck. Likes to get his inspection on, kid's talented with it too. Reports too many posts though, makes him look like a bit of a wank. Good all around knowledge, and can hang in the OTC, but at the end of the day more comfortable as Robin than Batman.

VCDAPTW - silent troll, he's still around, lurking daily, he should come back, he adds flavor. His handsome man sh*t was huge for the OTC revival.

-primetime- - probably throw this back at me for mentioning his name in my post, prolly say I am 'trolling' him. That shows you where his head is at. Can be a good poster though, but he gets in too deep. Like that wanky guy in your crew that has to pipe in with his lame ass story that parallels whatever someone else has brought up.

Lebron23 - basement to the penthouse, mail room to the corner office, fat slag to the prom queen. Kid is the MIP with a bullet. Still does too many historical posts (for example if I say Charles Barkley, he might add: CB, 8 time all star, one MVP, one of the most dominant PF ever to play etc...we know kid, we're all fans too) but I gotta say, I went from hating this guy to him being one of my favorite posters.

RidonKs - This sassy lil number doesn't post much these days. I think he and Sizzle found a new forum. Maybe we need to look into Mod exhaustion. Perhaps he's enhancing his ISH/life balance? Good poster, very sportsmanlike but willing to drop the gloves if he has to.

LKizzle - the realest brotha you ever gonna meet. ISH's KRS One ('you must learn'), down for the cause. Like his style and read all his threads. People say he is too pro black. F*ckem Kizzle they just jealous.

Glove_20 - Probably had adoration and adulation poured on him his entire life from his parents. He comes here, makes lists, does the research, knows he has to be right, cuz he always did good in school, he met his list criteria and his mommy thinks he special. People argue with him and it is not just his list, Glove takes it personal. Kid don't like to be told he is wrong, so he hates. Very arrogant, but at the end of the day it is better that he is here. Despite what people says he does know what he is talking about, he just needs to see things from all sides, as oppose to just his own.

lakerfreak - I assume he likes the Lakers, probably only posts in laker game threads.

Gee Wiz - dropped out during the second semester

MaxFly - Haven't seen much of him lately. Used to be kind of a salty pr*ck (not always an insult, I like pr*cks -no homo-). Probably been erect since the Celts won. Has limited patience for moronic posters, I like that.

Skywalker - A lot of heart in his posts, has strong views on his teams and his politics. I don't remember too many of his posts though.

Hawker - ISH punching bag. Everyone takes shots at this kid, I used to be confused why, but the kid is so punch drunk he is like some abused dog, he often ends up barking really loud at the wrong person, then that person is like 'whatever dude?' you are on my list now. Hawker is cool though, he has matured a lot and has carved out his own little niche here. Adds to the board.

Handle the Rock - I get him confused with Da KO King for some reason, must be an avatar thing.

saKf - Funny guy who has never done anyone wrong who didn't deserve it. The best choice for moderator.

Nexus - good poster, loves his politics and has chat versatility.

Basketball4life - got a lot of posts, but I really have no take on him. Not really sure who he supports or what his views are.

Fatboy11 - MMA, Arkansas, funny, self aware. One of the more solid posters on the docket.

Kobe24 - Used to think this white trouser clad clown was a complete d*ck. Now I realize he is just a sh*t disturber par-excellence. Likes to make people irate. This gives me new respect for him.

Ritchie2K6 - posted a lot back a year or so ago, now, not so much. Hard to get a read on him.

bigboi baller - Likes to let everyone know he is brown. Loves the Kings and seems to jump into threads with both feet. I like his moxie. Good poster, never had beef with him, though he may well be a vegan.

mlh1981 - The kind of poster your grandma would want you to be. Kid's a teacher so he probably has it wired in him that he needs to be a responsible contributing member to whatever society he participates in. Makes being nice almost seem cool.

RealMenWearGreen - The kind of poster your crotchety old grampa would want to be. Guy must have the good side of the bed flush against the wall because he wakes up on the wrong side of that sh*t daily. But what would ISH be without its resident curmudgeon mod?

CatzHernandez - Dude is all over the board, spreads himself thinner than an Ethiopian epidermis. Catz don't f*ck with me so I really cant say anything bad about him. He is fun though.

Loki - Resident Jordan expert, and this to me always seemed kind of weird. Don't get me wrong it is cool to be a supporter of someone, but the way everyone defers to him in Jordan topics always cracks me up. He is good at it though, and I think the tag Jeff stuck him with is kind of unwarranted, Loki is usually on point.

Kwajo - Salty sea faring lad, who can tie someone up in a sailors knot with his words in an argument. People always say 'oh Kwajo he's so nice' but Kwajo is a little more edgy than he gets credit for.

Lakerdynasty - brother of Lakerfreak?

konex - he's a hater not a lover. So ridiculous are some of his posts he challenges for unintentional humor's highest order, but sometimes his close yer eyes and swing for the fences approach connects and the kid is on point.

Da KO King - I got to know his views on the game. he knows what he is talking about. Should post more in the OTC.

Cartmanclone - Posts with a lot of heart and gets dissed a lot, handles it pretty well but too much nonsense going on in his head makes it tough for him to win. Poster takes a persona of someone trying to get his life right. I like him but he plays hard to want. Big part of the OTC.

Ryantheporchkid - Great username. Posts don't immediately come to mind but I recollect him enough to have checked the username. That means he's adding quality, once the post count gets up he could be memorable.

Blasian - Forgot him early (due to post count) but in reality he's second team all OTC. His hip hop knowledge is deep, and he posts like a man. Charles Hamilton was a good call.

Stewen12 - The jury is still out, not really caught my eye yet, but he seems keen.






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[FultzNationRISE]

That's not even the whole thing, I had to leave some of it off due to the reduced text limit of the board currently

[Lakers Legend#32]

For four years Jarred ran the country while Trump played golf and attended his ego feeding Nazi rallies.