so WW3 just began. anyone care?

[John_Connor]

https://i.ibb.co/PTQnQvj/Screenshot-20220220-170712-Gallery.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/mqpLycd/that-escalated.gif

[John_Connor]

https://youtu.be/teSXcJlpMl8


where's this guy when you need him

[ArbitraryWater]

**** me why are they doing this bs

[John_Connor]

**** me why are they doing this bs

cause of the democrats collusion with Ukraine to join nato so the US can spy on Russia and park nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers on putins door step. so Russia said "**** that and the new world order jew central banks. this is our country now mother f*ckers.


rightfully so

[SATAN]

https://i.ibb.co/mqpLycd/that-escalated.gif

No, not really.

[John_Connor]

Not really, no.

I dunno. I first heard about this possible invasion like a few weeks ago lol.. there hasn't even been any attacks yet from either side. usually a few bombs get tossed over to send a message before they start a ground invasion. I think you've been watching too many Civil War movies

[SATAN]

there hasn't even been any attacks yet from either side.

Incorrect.

[John_Connor]

Incorrect.

I dunno just Google it. nothing

[n00bie]

This isn't going to end well.

[CelticBaller]

Im past draftable age so im gucci

[Patrick Chewing]

The US will watch and do nothing. Russia laughs at our "sanctions".

[Objectivity]

The US will watch and do nothing. Russia laughs at our "sanctions".

Russia can’t really be meaningfully sanctioned as it’s gas&oil exports are of major importance to world markets + it might be the world’s leading fertilizer exporter and an important food(wheats etc) exporter.

Then there’s the aspect of China for whom Russia is probably the only significant ally and would be shooting itself in the foot if it were to change that.

[Objectivity]

And yet, war might not come to pass, nothing in Putin’s track record shows a capacity for bold agressive actions, he is not a russian patriot but a kleptocrat who’s primary mission is to ensure his hold on power and keep plundering russia along with his cronies.

I would go as far as to call him a Ukrainian patriot, as he’s been extremely reluctant to take any of their territory, except when it was an absolute political necessity to integrate Crimea ( 90+% russian population) and do the bare minimum to protect ethnic russians in the donbass from the ukrainian nazis.

In 2014 he could have easily absorbed ukraine ( all of it, or at least up to the dnieper) into the RF and if he didn’t then he definitely won’t now.

[8Ball]

Putin went in Georgia and spent 12 days there.

Same with Crimea.

Most likely same with Ukraine.

[bladefd]

cause of the democrats collusion with Ukraine to join nato so the US can spy on Russia and park nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers on putins door step. so Russia said "**** that and the new world order jew central banks. this is our country now mother f*ckers.


rightfully so

I can't tell if you are trolling or paranoid or both.

[John_Connor]

I can't tell if you are trolling or paranoid or both.

https://i.ibb.co/nkdGZk8/Screenshot-20220220-193236-Gallery.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/pQMG9c0/Screenshot-20220220-193537-Chrome.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/p3M61h4/a-Q3-KDPd-700b.jpg

[bladefd]

Why would you guarantee Ukraine would never be allowed to join NATO? There were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO anyways. If it was work in progress to get them in, I can understand the fear Russia would have. It wasn't though.

[John_Connor]

Why would you guarantee Ukraine would never be allowed to join NATO? There were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO anyways. If it was work in progress to get them in, I can understand the fear Russia would have. It wasn't though.

https://i.ibb.co/B6w8Kk5/Screenshot-20220220-195856-Chrome.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/xHMbX4G/confused-jaguarsfan.gif

[Jasper]

The US will watch and do nothing. Russia laughs at our "sanctions".

The majority of shipments that go thru the great lakes supply Russia. (ie- food)

[Gohan]

The end is near

[Patrick Chewing]

The end is near

Fear not, brother. Paradise awaits us.

[Chick Stern]

Trump issued an image showing how he would respond to Putie’s invasion

https://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/45595-Rolling-Pug.gif?1

[Gohan]

Fear not, brother. Paradise awaits us.

Are you jehova’s witness? Some of them are kind of delusional, they are right about alot of things though

[bladefd]

https://i.ibb.co/B6w8Kk5/Screenshot-20220220-195856-Chrome.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/xHMbX4G/confused-jaguarsfan.gif

It's a 2-way agreement. Ukraine may want to join, but NATO would have to agree. Again, there were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO.

[Patrick Chewing]

Are you jehova’s witness? Some of them are kind of delusional, they are right about alot of things though

Hell naw man. Those people are crazy. I'm a non-practicing Catholic.

[Bimbo Coles]

They've pivoted from alien invasion to Russia/Ukraine invasion. Theater.

[John_Connor]

It's a 2-way agreement. Ukraine may want to join, but NATO would have to agree. Again, there were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO.

my quote "cause of the democrats collusion with Ukraine to join nato"

where does it say that there was an agreement with nato and Ukraine in place.

I said there's collusion for intent to join. I didn't say "because they joined nato"

the US is obviously pulling strings with the Ukrainian government. that's all I said. take it for what it's worth. intent is all Russia needed

[SATAN]

Looks like shit is going down in Donetsk.

[bladefd]

It seems the French president is trying to set up an emergency meeting with Putin. Biden agreed to go along to meet Putin. Not sure if it's in person or not

[SATAN]

It seems the French president is trying to set up an emergency meeting with Putin. Biden agreed to go along to meet Putin. Not sure if it's in person or not

What is even the point at this stage? They already talked with him. He wants that area.

[jstern]

The other day the Ukrainian President made a joke about Russia "invading" them on the 17ths or something, and CNN and all these places started with their breaking news. It's happening, all hell is going to break loose at 3 pm. In other words, Yahoo has no idea what Russia is going to do. They're not part of the Russian government. All these news agency do is take a tweet and spin it in whatever way they want.


https://youtu.be/FfsXonxvu3Q

[SATAN]

You've been slipping out of character the past couple days. :milton

[Jasper]

cause of the democrats collusion with Ukraine to join nato so the US can spy on Russia and park nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers on putins door step. so Russia said "**** that and the new world order jew central banks. this is our country now mother f*ckers.


rightfully so

To be a free world , don't forget that

[John_Connor]

To be a free world , don't forget that

no. the US doesn't give 2 shits about the Ukrainian people. they just want the land. they're willing to see thousands die to get a more strategic position of special intelligence and national defense

[bladefd]

no. the US doesn't give 2 shits about the Ukrainian people. they just want the land. they're willing to see thousands die to get a more strategic position of special intelligence and national defense

Again, Ukraine joining NATO is not work-in-progress. Ukraine wants to join, but they have to be voted on by all member states. It would probably lead to a war with Russia if it ever reaches a vote. Yes, it is possible there were high-level talks taking place we are not privy to & that is why Russia is doing all this, but from everything we know publicly, it's not being considered. Russia would be shouting it from rooftops if that was their reason for invasion. They are not using that as their reason for why they want to attack Ukraine.

[BurningHammer]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-prevented-border-breach-ukraine-kyiv-calls-it-fake-news-2022-02-21/

Trump and future Trump should all learn how to lie like Putin and his mafia government.

[John_Connor]

Again, Ukraine joining NATO is not work-in-progress. Ukraine wants to join, but they have to be voted on by all member states. It would probably lead to a war with Russia if it ever reaches a vote. Yes, it is possible there were high-level talks taking place we are not privy to & that is why Russia is doing all this, but from everything we know publicly, it's not being considered. Russia would be shouting it from rooftops if that was their reason for invasion. They are not using that as their reason for why they want to attack Ukraine.

and again. I said they want this deal. not "they have this deal

the US is manipulating Ukraine to try and GET them into nato

why do you keep getting confused


like just ask yourself this.. if I'm wrong about this then why is putin meeting with biden lol


it would be like someone accusing China and Russia of collusion and then before someone invades Russia they have to talk to China first.. like come the f*ck on already .. you just exposed yourself

[SATAN]

:facepalm

[bladefd]

and again. I said they want this deal. not "they have this deal

the US is manipulating Ukraine to try and GET them into nato

why do you keep getting confused


like just ask yourself this.. if I'm wrong about this then why is putin meeting with biden lol


it would be like someone accusing China and Russia of collusion and then before someone invades Russia they have to talk to China first.. like come the f*ck on already .. you just exposed yourself

It doesn't matter what Ukraine wants. What matters is what is actually happening - are there actual talks or negotiations going for them to join NATO? Not as far as we know.

You should not be waging war over hypotheticals. Taiwan wants to officially consider itself an independent country & America wants to designate it a separate country, but they know it could risk a world war. Nobody cares what they want. People care about what they do or are in the process of doing.

USA alone can't just add Ukraine to NATO even if they wanted to. The other members have to agree and officially vote on it as I said. Without that, it is meaningless and hypotheticals are worthless. Coulda, woulda, shoulda are meaningless.

[SATAN]

Apparently the Russians have said any sanctions will now be viewed as an act of war. I don't think dumbasses of ish realize how serious this actually is.

[Axe]

For car dudes like me, one of the saddest news about this is that inflation on fuel prices will continue to go on when it's awfully high already atm. :(

[GimmeThat]

Apparently the Russians have said any sanctions will now be viewed as an act of war. I don't think dumbasses of ish realize how serious this actually is.

no idea how you're gonna survive if you are content with life at the moment

[coin24]

Again, Ukraine joining NATO is not work-in-progress. Ukraine wants to join, but they have to be voted on by all member states. It would probably lead to a war with Russia if it ever reaches a vote. Yes, it is possible there were high-level talks taking place we are not privy to & that is why Russia is doing all this, but from everything we know publicly, it's not being considered. Russia would be shouting it from rooftops if that was their reason for invasion. They are not using that as their reason for why they want to attack Ukraine.


Whatever this guys take is, it’s always wrong:lol

[John_Connor]

Whatever this guys take is, it’s always wrong:lol

I didn't even check to see if he replied. he's obviously a monkey throwing his own feces against the wall hoping something sticks

[ZenMaster]

Again, Ukraine joining NATO is not work-in-progress. Ukraine wants to join, but they have to be voted on by all member states. It would probably lead to a war with Russia if it ever reaches a vote. Yes, it is possible there were high-level talks taking place we are not privy to & that is why Russia is doing all this, but from everything we know publicly, it's not being considered. Russia would be shouting it from rooftops if that was their reason for invasion. They are not using that as their reason for why they want to attack Ukraine.

So you found a new thread to spread your nonsense?
Talking about "what we know", when it's clear the problem is that you don't know shit.

There isn't a better description for Ukraine joining NATO, than it being a work in progress.

Here's from 2008, when you were probably busy jerking off to your aunt's summer photos:


NATO welcomes Georgia's and Ukraine's aspirations for membership
At the Bucharest Summit, NATO Allies welcomed Ukraine's and Georgia's Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership and agreed that these countries will become members of NATO.

They also agreed that both nations have made valuable contributions to Alliance operations and welcomed democratic reforms in Ukraine and Georgia.

The Membership Action Plan (MAP) is the next step for the two countries on their direct way to membership.

Allies made clear that they support Georgia's and Ukraine's applications for MAP. Allies also said NATO will now begin a period of intensive engagement with both countries at high political level to address the questions still outstanding regarding their MAP applications. NATO Foreign Ministers were asked to make a first assessment of progress at their December 2008 meeting.

https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.html

This is from January 10th this year, not long before Joe Biden was all of the sudden convinced that bombs would by dropping on Kiev "within the next few days".


And today’s meeting of the NATO-Ukraine Commission comes at the start of an important week for European security.
The United States and Russia are currently meeting in Geneva.
On Wednesday we will hold the NATO-Russia Council meeting here in Brussels.

What we have stated very clearly is, first of all, that we continue to provide support to Ukraine.

Political support for Ukraine's territorial integrity, sovereignty, but also practical support with our comprehensive assistance package, with different trust funds, with different activities conducted by the NATO Office in Kiev, where we help to implement reforms, help to modernize Ukraine's armed forces. And I always encourage allies to step up and also provide more support within the NATO framework.

I, for instance, visited Odessa some time ago and then I saw how NATO helped to train and build the naval capabilities of Ukraine at the Naval Academy in Odessa. We also exercise together and we work together in many ways.

On top of that, we also have many Allies providing bilateral support to Ukraine with training, with capacity, with different types of equipment. And I encourage and welcome the support NATO Allies provide bilaterally directly to Ukraine.

And this is, also of course, sending a clear message that Ukraine has the right to defend itself. That is an enshrined right in the UN Founding Treaty. And NATO helps Ukraine to uphold the right to defend itself.

On membership.

We have reiterated the decision we made at the Bucharest Summit in 2008 and we stand by that decision. We help Ukraine to move towards a NATO membership by implementing reforms, by meeting NATO standards.


https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_190542.htm

No fauxnews sites or rabbit hole to go down hurdy hurr hurr, just information straight from nato.int

[bladefd]

So you found a new thread to spread your nonsense?
Talking about "what we know", when it's clear the problem is that you don't know shit.

There isn't a better description for Ukraine joining NATO, than it being a work in progress.

Here's from 2008, when you were probably busy jerking off to your aunt's summer photos:



https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.html

This is from January 10th this year, not long before Joe Biden was all of the sudden convinced that bombs would by dropping on Kiev "within the next few days".



https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_190542.htm

No fauxnews sites or rabbit hole to go down hurdy hurr hurr, just information straight from nato.int

Okay so maybe it was being talked about so I take that piece back. It has never reached the point of vote though. The article you posted says that NATO members would want reform in Ukraine before they even considered adding them. It was in the reform stage.

Russia also did not say that was their reason for invading Ukraine, have they? Did Putin say that in his speech the day before yesterday? He essentially said he wants the Russian-speaking parts annexed to Russia because he believes that they belong to Russia.

[John_Connor]

blade ITT rn

https://chlotrudis.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/irreversible.jpeg

[Objectivity]

So you found a new thread to spread your nonsense?
Talking about "what we know", when it's clear the problem is that you don't know shit.

There isn't a better description for Ukraine joining NATO, than it being a work in progress.

Here's from 2008, when you were probably busy jerking off to your aunt's summer photos:



https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.html

This is from January 10th this year, not long before Joe Biden was all of the sudden convinced that bombs would by dropping on Kiev "within the next few days".



https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_190542.htm

No fauxnews sites or rabbit hole to go down hurdy hurr hurr, just information straight from nato.int

Straight fact based annihilation. :bowdown:

[Objectivity]

Okay so maybe it was being talked about so I take that piece back. It has never reached the point of vote though. The article you posted says that NATO members would want reform in Ukraine before they even considered adding them. It was in the reform stage.

Russia also did not say that was their reason for invading Ukraine, have they? Did Putin say that in his speech the day before yesterday? He essentially said he wants the Russian-speaking parts annexed to Russia because he believes that they belong to Russia.

Russia in 1990: don't expand NATO

Russia in 2000: don't expand NATO

Russia in 2010: don't expand NATO

Russia in 2020: don't expand NATO

bladefd: this is not about NATO

[ZenMaster]

Okay so maybe it was being talked about so I take that piece back. It has never reached the point of vote though. The article you posted says that NATO members would want reform in Ukraine before they even considered adding them. It was in the reform stage.

Russia also did not say that was their reason for invading Ukraine, have they? Did Putin say that in his speech the day before yesterday? He essentially said he wants the Russian-speaking parts annexed to Russia because he believes that they belong to Russia.

Those are not articles, but official public NATO statements. One is a description about what was decided in the 2008 Bucharest summit - that Ukraine will join NATO and an action plan is now in progress to make that happen.
The other, is an official statement from January this year by NATO Secretary Jens Stoltenberg, where he confirms that the decision made in 2008 is still in place and that NATO countries are upgrading the weapons arsenal of Ukraine as well as all kinds of other support.

2008: Decision is made to start the process of Ukraine joining NATO
2010: Election in Ukraine, Yanukovych is elected who stops the plan to join NATO
2014: The US orchestrates the demonstrations and fights in Kiev, which leads Yanukovych having to flee the country and a new pro western government is installed - Plans to join NATO are back on and Putin takes Crimea.
2015 and on: 2,5 billion US tax dollars disappear into a Ukrainian bank, owned by a guy who then funds a brigade in Eastern Ukraine to fight Russian seperatists.
2016: Putin is accused of having infiltrated the new US President and it's investigated heavily by Congress.
2022: US establishment politicians are back in power and plans for Ukraine to join NATO are moving forward(as evident from the statement by Soltenberg)
Putin says he can't allow Ukraine to join NATO and wants assurances that it won't happen. Western politicans says that Ukraine has every right join and that's where we are now.

US leadership can now decide between pushing for a deal between NATO and Russia to not allow Ukraine to join, or they can keep pushing for Ukraine to join and have Putin take the country by force. That way they can rightfully install sanctions and increase the military presence in countries around Ukraine and Russia, with donors making a ton of money in the process through weapons sales and US foreign aid.
Some of that money will then come back to the politicians ,and some of it will be used on marketing campaigns, to convince you that they did all of this to protect you and that you need them in your life.
Oh, and the price of all kinds of energy is projected to go up due to this, making peiople have less money. It's a little added bonus for the western politicians as it brings more selling points in the next election.


https://youtu.be/AvwUb35v6JA

[bladefd]

Those are not articles, but official public NATO statements. One is a description about what was decided in the 2008 Bucharest summit - that Ukraine will join NATO and an action plan is now in progress to make that happen.
The other, is an official statement from January this year by NATO Secretary Jens Stoltenberg, where he confirms that the decision made in 2008 is still in place and that NATO countries are upgrading the weapons arsenal of Ukraine as well as all kinds of other support.

2008: Decision is made to start the process of Ukraine joining NATO
2010: Election in Ukraine, Yanukovych is elected who stops the plan to join NATO
2014: The US orchestrates the demonstrations and fights in Kiev, which leads Yanukovych having to flee the country and a new pro western government is installed - Plans to join NATO are back on and Putin takes Crimea.
2015 and on: 2,5 billion US tax dollars disappear into a Ukrainian bank, owned by a guy who then funds a brigade in Eastern Ukraine to fight Russian seperatists.
2016: Putin is accused of having infiltrated the new US President and it's investigated heavily by Congress.
2022: US establishment politicians are back in power and plans for Ukraine to join NATO are moving forward(as evident from the statement by Soltenberg)
Putin says he can't allow Ukraine to join NATO and wants assurances that it won't happen. Western politicans says that Ukraine has every right join and that's where we are now.

US leadership can now decide between pushing for a deal between NATO and Russia to not allow Ukraine to join, or they can keep pushing for Ukraine to join and have Putin take the country by force. That way they can rightfully install sanctions and increase the military presence in countries around Ukraine and Russia, with donors making a ton of money in the process through weapons sales and US foreign aid.
Some of that money will then come back to the politicians ,and some of it will be used on marketing campaigns, to convince you that they did all of this to protect you and that you need them in your life.
Oh, and the price of all kinds of energy is projected to go up due to this, making peiople have less money. It's a little added bonus for the western politicians as it brings more selling points in the next election.


https://youtu.be/AvwUb35v6JA

Sanctions hurt everyone on both the EU side and Russia. Something like 40% of EU's natural gas comes from Russia. EU will have to instead switch to USA/Canada for natural gas. It might also push them to energy independence (i.e. Renewable clean energy). I think that can be good for everyone (including Russia) even if costly in the short-term.

My biggest fear would be that Russia takes Ukraine then tries to annex some other former Soviet country like Uzbekistan and tries to bring back some form of the USSR. We don't know if it will stop at Ukraine. This is exactly what the NATO was created to stop Russia (USSR rather) expansion into Europe and the Middle East around turkey. If Russia gets away with Ukraine takeover, they can easily say "guarantee in writing that Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Lithuania, etc will never join NATO or they will be invaded." The other worry is ofc China using this to go for Taiwan. You should be concerned about it regardless of whether you are Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal or European or American or Taiwanese or from another Asian country. This has nothing to do with Biden or Trump or Obama or George Bush or what have you. Russia is a threat and so is China.

[n00bie]

Sanctions hurt everyone on both the EU side and Russia. Something like 40% of EU's natural gas comes from Russia. EU will have to instead switch to USA/Canada for natural gas. It might also push them to energy independence (i.e. Renewable clean energy). I think that can be good for everyone (including Russia) even if costly in the short-term.

My biggest fear would be that Russia takes Ukraine then tries to annex some other former Soviet country like Uzbekistan and tries to bring back some form of the USSR. We don't know if it will stop at Ukraine. This is exactly what the NATO was created to stop Russia (USSR rather) expansion into Europe and the Middle East around turkey. If Russia gets away with Ukraine takeover, they can easily say "guarantee in writing that Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Lithuania, etc will never join NATO or they will be invaded." The other worry is ofc China using this to go for Taiwan. You should be concerned about it regardless of whether you are Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal or European or American or Taiwanese or from another Asian country. This has nothing to do with Biden or Trump or Obama or George Bush or what have you. Russia is a threat and so is China.

Lets not forget about North Korea going after South Korea.. and China going after Japan.

This can seriously lead to WW3.

[bladefd]

Lets not forget about North Korea going after South Korea.. and China going after Japan.

This can seriously lead to WW3.

North Korea would probably get whooped by South Korea but not without significant bloodshed on both sides. US also has bases in South Korea so US would have to enter the war too.

But yes, NK attacking SK could escalate and start ww3. China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, these guys have been getting aggressive for years.

[Chick Stern]

North Korea would probably get whooped by South Korea but not without significant bloodshed on both sides. US also has bases in South Korea so US would have to enter the war too.

But yes, NK attacking SK could escalate and start ww3. China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, these guys have been getting aggressive for years.

NK has near impenetrable bunkers right at the border, pointed at Seoul

ps - it’s on like Donkey Kong. Russia is conducting a “special military operation”...

[Draz]

Comments on Trump defending Russia?

[Patrick Chewing]

And Russia has started the invasion.


Russia only invades other countries when a Democrat is in office.

[John_Connor]

Comments on Trump defending Russia?

personally I agree with Russia. the Ukraine is a puppet for the United states. theyre basically traitors to their part of the world. they should be aligning with Russia.

its kinda like how canada and the US have fundamental differences but we stay on good terms cause we're neighbors. you should always try to find common ground. don't sell them out to get a bunch of mcdonalds and Starbucks

[bladefd]

Comments on Trump defending Russia?

One would have to be complete trash of a human to be defending Russia & Putin over this. There is nothing to defend. Just disgust.

[coin24]

One would have to be complete trash of a human to be defending Russia & Putin over this. There is nothing to defend. Just disgust.

How can anyone legit be wrong about everything in life?:roll:

[iamgine]

Is this like when Hitler's Germany invaded part of Czech in 1938, just before WWII started?

[bison]

They are only doing precision strikes on comms towers, air defense units, airfields etc. it’s happening very quickly. As Putin said the goal is to demilitarize Ukraine and they seem to have done it in under a couple hours. Very unlikely to see Russian ground troops in Ukrainian cities. This was done to protect separatist regions who had been under siege for a while from Ukrainian artillery. No need for NATO/US to get involve. They’ll probably do more sanctions. Ppl really overhyping this as ww3 when really I think US/NATO will just do more sanctions/public condemnations.

[bison]

personally I agree with Russia. the Ukraine is a puppet for the United states. theyre basically traitors to their part of the world. they should be aligning with Russia.

its kinda like how canada and the US have fundamental differences but we stay on good terms cause we're neighbors. you should always try to find common ground. don't sell them out to get a bunch of mcdonalds and Starbucks

Such short memories. Did we forget the Euromaidan protests already? Ukraine WAS friendly and supportive of Russia up until 8 years ago when a US-backed right wing coup (which included nazis!) overthrew the Ukrainian government and installed a puppet government on behalf of US/NATO/EU interests.

[bison]

There’s been a political realignment in America recently. It’s Democrats who are now the warmongerers wanting to pick fights with Syria and now Russia while republicans advocate for non intervention.

[SATAN]

The dumbest people I've ever seen in my life post on this forum.

[ZenMaster]

Sanctions hurt everyone on both the EU side and Russia. Something like 40% of EU's natural gas comes from Russia. EU will have to instead switch to USA/Canada for natural gas. It might also push them to energy independence (i.e. Renewable clean energy). I think that can be good for everyone (including Russia) even if costly in the short-term.

My biggest fear would be that Russia takes Ukraine then tries to annex some other former Soviet country like Uzbekistan and tries to bring back some form of the USSR. We don't know if it will stop at Ukraine. This is exactly what the NATO was created to stop Russia (USSR rather) expansion into Europe and the Middle East around turkey. If Russia gets away with Ukraine takeover, they can easily say "guarantee in writing that Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Lithuania, etc will never join NATO or they will be invaded." The other worry is ofc China using this to go for Taiwan. You should be concerned about it regardless of whether you are Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal or European or American or Taiwanese or from another Asian country. This has nothing to do with Biden or Trump or Obama or George Bush or what have you. Russia is a threat and so is China.

Exactly, sactions hurt everyone, so maybe try and go for a diplomatic solution instead as it's what's best for the billions of people living there instead of forcing a geo political drama.

As you admit in your post here, you're nothing but an idiot who's basing his thought process on fear and you rationalize it into a matter of good and evil.

Would you be OK with Mexico joining an alliance with Russia + China and letting those countries install a missile system pointing towards the US, as well as letting them provide weapons for the Mexican army?
How about if Putin funded and ran an uprising in Mexico City, leading to the Mexican government having to flee the country and then the new government would be heavily against the US?
That's basically alike to the situation they want(and partially already have) created in Europe by having Ukraine join NATO.

I'm selfish, I just want to live in peace and not have prices on food and energy sky rocket, so if Putin want's the European countries around his border not to be a part of NATO, if that's what required to maintain economic peace, then I'm good with that. My ex girlfriend is Ukrainian, they're the same as Russians and the people from the two countries aren't against each other.

Don't be a moron talking about good and evil, the people you voted for(some of them I voted for as well in the past) just got done raging war on Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia and Syria(which was also meant to try and remove hot water naval access for Putin), killing millions of people in the process.

Objectively, the US is a bigger threat to Russia than the other way around. Case in point, this whole situation is centered around a country that's already loaded with weapons from the US, and is loocated just next to Russia.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

Video from 2015

[Objectivity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

Video from 2015

:cheers: brain dead muh dictator, muh hitler brains will melt if they watch this

[John_Connor]

The dumbest people I've ever seen in my life post on this forum.

"Is it absalootly true you can say the dummest peeple your ever seen in life posted this forom?

your obviously not tracking"

- theman93

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/image.php?u=826804&dateline=1625775144

[SATAN]

:lol

[bladefd]

Exactly, sactions hurt everyone, so maybe try and go for a diplomatic solution instead as it's what's best for the billions of people living there instead of forcing a geo political drama.

As you admit in your post here, you're nothing but an idiot who's basing his thought process on fear and you rationalize it into a matter of good and evil.

Would you be OK with Mexico joining an alliance with Russia + China and letting those countries install a missile system pointing towards the US, as well as letting them provide weapons for the Mexican army?
How about if Putin funded and ran an uprising in Mexico City, leading to the Mexican government having to flee the country and then the new government would be heavily against the US?
That's basically alike to the situation they want(and partially already have) created in Europe by having Ukraine join NATO.

I'm selfish, I just want to live in peace and not have prices on food and energy sky rocket, so if Putin want's the European countries around his border not to be a part of NATO, if that's what required to maintain economic peace, then I'm good with that. My ex girlfriend is Ukrainian, they're the same as Russians and the people from the two countries aren't against each other.

Don't be a moron talking about good and evil, the people you voted for(some of them I voted for as well in the past) just got done raging war on Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia and Syria(which was also meant to try and remove hot water naval access for Putin), killing millions of people in the process.

Objectively, the US is a bigger threat to Russia than the other way around. Case in point, this whole situation is centered around a country that's already loaded with weapons from the US, and is loocated just next to Russia.

It's obvious you are pro-russia and always been.

What diplomatic solution? Russia has been aggressive for months and now finally reached the point of no-return. They have been saying it was just a training exercise, which has been nonsense & shot down by not just US intelligence agencies but other agencies as well around the world.

If you thought that diplomacy was going to stop this warmongering clown in Putin, you are an even bigger buffoon than I thought. This has nothing to do with good vs evil but completely to do with one man finishing a power-hungry move he started years back. Remind you of something that many, including yours truly, have been condemning about Bush going back to 02? (Only difference is it concerns Bush jr and his father). Power grab is what it is.

Listen Russia could have taken other steps that didn't include preemptively invading Ukraine. They could have pointed their missiles at Ukraine and say that if Ukraine and NATO ever consider doing an actual vote, they would invade Ukraine. Be clear about it from the beginning rather than this lies and smokes leading up to the preemptive strike. Get that nonsense out of here.

Ofc USA is a bigger threat to Russia than the other way around. There is a reason why Putin doesn't have the balls to openly threaten the US. His only choice is proxy threats and wars through other weaker countries. There is only one real military that Russia has ever truly feared in all their history and only one capable of taking a direct offense at them, and that's America (the Nazis were close to that - they had the personnel and tech, but they went in unprepared for the winter & were fighting on two fronts at once).

[Axe]

"Is it absalootly true you can say the dummest peeple your ever seen in life posted this forom?

your obviously not tracking"

- theman93

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/image.php?u=826804&dateline=1625775144
Coach tends to be really funny at times when he gets serious about stuff.

[ZenMaster]

It's obvious you are pro-russia and always been.

What diplomatic solution? Russia has been aggressive for months and now finally reached the point of no-return. They have been saying it was just a training exercise, which has been nonsense & shot down by not just US intelligence agencies but other agencies as well around the world.

If you thought that diplomacy was going to stop this warmongering clown in Putin, you are an even bigger buffoon than I thought. This has nothing to do with good vs evil but completely to do with one man finishing a power-hungry move he started years back. Remind you of something that many, including yours truly, have been condemning about Bush going back to 02? (Only difference is it concerns Bush jr and his father). Power grab is what it is.

Listen Russia could have taken other steps that didn't include preemptively invading Ukraine. They could have pointed their missiles at Ukraine and say that if Ukraine and NATO ever consider doing an actual vote, they would invade Ukraine. Be clear about it from the beginning rather than this lies and smokes leading up to the preemptive strike. Get that nonsense out of here.

Ofc USA is a bigger threat to Russia than the other way around. There is a reason why Putin doesn't have the balls to openly threaten the US. His only choice is proxy threats and wars through other weaker countries. There is only one real military that Russia has ever truly feared in all their history and only one capable of taking a direct offense at them, and that's America (the Nazis were close to that - they had the personnel and tech, but they went in unprepared for the winter & were fighting on two fronts at once).

It's obvious that you're a bufoon who knows next to nothing about any of this, except for what your Democratic politican idols tell you.

The diplomatic sollution would be for NATO to agree with Russia that Ukraine is never going to join. Instead they're doing the opposite and have reafirmed their decision to get Ukraine in. If you doubt this, THEN READ THE ****ING MEMO FROM NATO GENERAL SECRETARY JENS STOLTENBERG THAT WAS PUBLISHED ON JANUARY 10TH.

The power hungry move here is NATO(and within that mainly the US) doing everything within it's power to get Ukraine to join. If you think this is right, then answer the ****ing question about if you'd be OK with Russia doing the same in Mexico.

And stop talking about NATO not having considered a vote, I've shown you through fact based documents, that there has been an active Membership Action Plan going since 2008, where they decided that Ukraine will join in the future, once various reforms have been done. This means that once there is a vote, it will go through - and again, read the memo from Stoltenberg if you doubt that they were not working towards this.

What you're proposing about Russia threatening with missiles if there is a vote, what kind of crazy shit is that to want? Why not just agree with them that Ukraine isn't going to join NATO?

I'm not supporting anyone in this, it's all bullshit that goes back generations. It's about money, power and pipelines for energy sources made up by the richest people in the world. Go look at the first sanctions invoked by the West, it's targeted towards a handful of Russian oligarchs - who for some reason was allowed to do heavy business in the UK just up until a couple days ago.

All I care about is living in a stable world where I can prosper.

Yada yada protect the Ukrainain people, yada yada freedom and democracy.. Same shit as back in 2011 and 2001 before that - you're welcome to look into how the Lybian people is doing today for example. It's all bullshit and you're a moron for falling for it again. I wrote on here that you voted for the people who want war back in 2020, you said that there's no more conflict to be had as the US was pulling out of the Middle East, and that Biden would focus his efforts on uniting the US after Trump. Now here we are, embedded in international conflict again.


https://youtu.be/5bfk23IY2vg

You've been thoroughly outed in this thread on just how little you know about all of this and that your only way to think about it, is how Dem policians tell you to think.

Take an hour of your life and watch the presentation in the video posted by 1987_Lakers, get smarter instead of being taken for a ride by the media tricks of Obama, Biden and Pelosi. Ukraine being a part of NATO isn't going to make a bit of difference in your life, only the conflict about it will, the conflict they're now making sure happens.

[Patrick Chewing]

The dumbest people I've ever seen in my life post on this forum.

Stop talking about yourself like that.

[n00bie]

They are only doing precision strikes on comms towers, air defense units, airfields etc. it’s happening very quickly. As Putin said the goal is to demilitarize Ukraine and they seem to have done it in under a couple hours. Very unlikely to see Russian ground troops in Ukrainian cities. This was done to protect separatist regions who had been under siege for a while from Ukrainian artillery. No need for NATO/US to get involve. They’ll probably do more sanctions. Ppl really overhyping this as ww3 when really I think US/NATO will just do more sanctions/public condemnations.

You don't think China and North Korea aren't watching intensely?

If NATO sits on the sidelines and watch Ukraine fall, China's going to realize NATO is powerless, and they'll go ahead and take out Taiwan.

[Long Duck Dong]

A Turkish ship has been attacked and struck with a missile. It's unclear which side fired the missile.

Turkey is a NATO member but also has good relations with Russia. If it was the Russians that attacked their ship on accident, it's interesting to see if Turkey would stop Russian ship passage into the Black Sea. From what I understand Turkey has full control of all warship passage into the Black Sea via the Bosphorus and Dardanelles Straits. It's little things like this that sometime snowball into huge conflicts drawing multiple parties into war

[bladefd]

It's obvious that you're a bufoon who knows next to nothing about any of this, except for what your Democratic politican idols tell you.

The diplomatic sollution would be for NATO to agree with Russia that Ukraine is never going to join. Instead they're doing the opposite and have reafirmed their decision to get Ukraine in. If you doubt this, THEN READ THE ****ING MEMO FROM NATO GENERAL SECRETARY JENS STOLTENBERG THAT WAS PUBLISHED ON JANUARY 10TH.

The power hungry move here is NATO(and within that mainly the US) doing everything within it's power to get Ukraine to join. If you think this is right, then answer the ****ing question about if you'd be OK with Russia doing the same in Mexico.

And stop talking about NATO not having considered a vote, I've shown you through fact based documents, that there has been an active Membership Action Plan going since 2008, where they decided that Ukraine will join in the future, once various reforms have been done. This means that once there is a vote, it will go through - and again, read the memo from Stoltenberg if you doubt that they were not working towards this.

What you're proposing about Russia threatening with missiles if there is a vote, what kind of crazy shit is that to want? Why not just agree with them that Ukraine isn't going to join NATO?

I'm not supporting anyone in this, it's all bullshit that goes back generations. It's about money, power and pipelines for energy sources made up by the richest people in the world. Go look at the first sanctions invoked by the West, it's targeted towards a handful of Russian oligarchs - who for some reason was allowed to do heavy business in the UK just up until a couple days ago.

All I care about is living in a stable world where I can prosper.

Yada yada protect the Ukrainain people, yada yada freedom and democracy.. Same shit as back in 2011 and 2001 before that - you're welcome to look into how the Lybian people is doing today for example. It's all bullshit and you're a moron for falling for it again. I wrote on here that you voted for the people who want war back in 2020, you said that there's no more conflict to be had as the US was pulling out of the Middle East, and that Biden would focus his efforts on uniting the US after Trump. Now here we are, embedded in international conflict again.


https://youtu.be/5bfk23IY2vg

You've been thoroughly outed in this thread on just how little you know about all of this and that your only way to think about it, is how Dem policians tell you to think.

Take an hour of your life and watch the presentation in the video posted by 1987_Lakers, get smarter instead of being taken for a ride by the media tricks of Obama, Biden and Pelosi. Ukraine being a part of NATO isn't going to make a bit of difference in your life, only the conflict about it will, the conflict they're now making sure happens.

You are a Russian shill. Brainwashed to defend Russia by any means. Even if they were to invade another country in a few months, you will be stuck on the democrat train. Whatever I said in that post has nothing to do with Obama or Biden or Pelosi. If you knew anything about me, you would know I'm a Democrat in name only (and only so I could vote in the primary tbh - I used to be an independent but could not vote in primary during 2012). I don't give a shit if Ukraine joins NATO or not. Truth be told, it doesn't impact me. I just have an issue with anyone wanting to be a tyrant (Putin), and I believe you cannot appease with people like him. You have to publicly condemn & push back against tyrants wherever they are and whoever they are.

You are paranoid and obsessed with Democrat party that you are unable to look past the party line. Whenever someone disagrees with you, all you see is what party they belong to. I only defend the truth - I don't support the idea of parties, never have, never will. I don't deify people - never have, never will. Truth is what matters to me. I will trash whoever I find to be a trash human being.

[zeerghit]

why you elect president whos 80 years old?? his interview after his speech was so hard to watch

[John_Connor]

so under bidens administration 2 entire countries have been taken over that the US tried infiltrating to gain a strategic military advantage. both now in worse shape than ever and set back hundreds of years



https://i.ibb.co/NWWMb10/chrome-capture-2.gif

https://i.ibb.co/ZJXNdJr/20220224-2-52304024-73983144.jpg







https://youtu.be/9lOL2h8F3aA

[SATAN]

http://malt-review.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Glenlivet.jpg

[SATAN]

:facepalm

[SATAN]

we really are starting ww3 huh...:facepalm

Be interesting if Sean Penn is killed.

[ZenMaster]

You are a Russian shill. Brainwashed to defend Russia by any means. Even if they were to invade another country in a few months, you will be stuck on the democrat train. Whatever I said in that post has nothing to do with Obama or Biden or Pelosi. If you knew anything about me, you would know I'm a Democrat in name only (and only so I could vote in the primary tbh - I used to be an independent but could not vote in primary during 2012). I don't give a shit if Ukraine joins NATO or not. Truth be told, it doesn't impact me. I just have an issue with anyone wanting to be a tyrant (Putin), and I believe you cannot appease with people like him. You have to publicly condemn & push back against tyrants wherever they are and whoever they are.

You are paranoid and obsessed with Democrat party that you are unable to look past the party line. Whenever someone disagrees with you, all you see is what party they belong to. I only defend the truth - I don't support the idea of parties, never have, never will. I don't deify people - never have, never will. Truth is what matters to me. I will trash whoever I find to be a trash human being.

I had written something, but it's not worth the effort and time. You're just too dumb and as evident from your break down here and the rest of your posts, you have no idea what you're talking about.

You are literally wishing for instability in the world, here was the opposite suggestion:


https://youtu.be/RtUwrtDanck

Good luck with your Apple stock.

[John_Connor]

Be interesting if Sean Penn is killed.

well danger is technically his business


https://youtu.be/GPo2RMHgSKQ

[Overdrive]

It's obvious that you're a bufoon who knows next to nothing about any of this, except for what your Democratic politican idols tell you.

The diplomatic sollution would be for NATO to agree with Russia that Ukraine is never going to join. Instead they're doing the opposite and have reafirmed their decision to get Ukraine in. If you doubt this, THEN READ THE ****ING MEMO FROM NATO GENERAL SECRETARY JENS STOLTENBERG THAT WAS PUBLISHED ON JANUARY 10TH.

The power hungry move here is NATO(and within that mainly the US) doing everything within it's power to get Ukraine to join. If you think this is right, then answer the ****ing question about if you'd be OK with Russia doing the same in Mexico.

And stop talking about NATO not having considered a vote, I've shown you through fact based documents, that there has been an active Membership Action Plan going since 2008, where they decided that Ukraine will join in the future, once various reforms have been done. This means that once there is a vote, it will go through - and again, read the memo from Stoltenberg if you doubt that they were not working towards this.

What you're proposing about Russia threatening with missiles if there is a vote, what kind of crazy shit is that to want? Why not just agree with them that Ukraine isn't going to join NATO?

I'm not supporting anyone in this, it's all bullshit that goes back generations. It's about money, power and pipelines for energy sources made up by the richest people in the world. Go look at the first sanctions invoked by the West, it's targeted towards a handful of Russian oligarchs - who for some reason was allowed to do heavy business in the UK just up until a couple days ago.

All I care about is living in a stable world where I can prosper.

Yada yada protect the Ukrainain people, yada yada freedom and democracy.. Same shit as back in 2011 and 2001 before that - you're welcome to look into how the Lybian people is doing today for example. It's all bullshit and you're a moron for falling for it again. I wrote on here that you voted for the people who want war back in 2020, you said that there's no more conflict to be had as the US was pulling out of the Middle East, and that Biden would focus his efforts on uniting the US after Trump. Now here we are, embedded in international conflict again.


https://youtu.be/5bfk23IY2vg

You've been thoroughly outed in this thread on just how little you know about all of this and that your only way to think about it, is how Dem policians tell you to think.

Take an hour of your life and watch the presentation in the video posted by 1987_Lakers, get smarter instead of being taken for a ride by the media tricks of Obama, Biden and Pelosi. Ukraine being a part of NATO isn't going to make a bit of difference in your life, only the conflict about it will, the conflict they're now making sure happens.

This lengthy post is futile. The NATO-narrative is a strawman. Putin repeatedly publicly stated that Ukraine has no legitimation to be its own country.

[John_Connor]

is Sean penn filming movie about war during an actual war ala tropic thunder the most amazing example of life imitating art or whatever

tropic thunder makes fun of Sean penn with Ben stillers character that mocks that I am Sam movie where he goes full retard and loses out on an Oscar. and then I think his character gets an Oscar for the movie they make unknowingly during an actual war (can't remember) but it would be pretty funny if he got an award for this after dying

https://i.ibb.co/7JYdHnb/Screenshot-20220224-181728-Gallery.jpg

[1987_Lakers]

Take an hour of your life and watch the presentation in the video posted by 1987_Lakers, get smarter instead of being taken for a ride by the media tricks of Obama, Biden and Pelosi. Ukraine being a part of NATO isn't going to make a bit of difference in your life, only the conflict about it will, the conflict they're now making sure happens.

It's super weird how mainstream media and reddit won't even acknowledge the 2014 coup in Ukraine, that was very recent. Is Putin doing the right thing? That's up for debate, but Europe and the U.S. provoked him into doing this. He just didn't get up one morning and say "Fvck it, I'm gonna attack a country for no reason", like some news outlets and Biden are saying.

[John_Connor]

are you OK?

are you OBese?

[John_Connor]

https://i.ibb.co/VgvVyHt/20220224-193020.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/XWfhNjz/rapinoe-morgan-100719.jpg

[eliteballer]

https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1496958617945317377

[eliteballer]

https://twitter.com/YourAnonOne/status/1496965766435926039

[eliteballer]

https://twitter.com/RiotsResistance/status/1496984462818791427

[eliteballer]

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1496989555739746304

[eliteballer]

https://twitter.com/walterlekh/status/1497004715930001411

[eliteballer]

https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1497004422454521864

[eliteballer]

https://twitter.com/theragex/status/1496990171895672841

[eliteballer]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497002529795805191

[BurningHammer]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497002529795805191

I wonder how much those Russian soldiers getting paid to be in this worthless war.

[eliteballer]

OH MY GOODNESS..

https://twitter.com/USCentrist/status/1496912587749052420

[1987_Lakers]

Keep your spamming to that shoe thread please.

[eliteballer]

Alt reconfirmed.

[Wally450]

Keep your spamming to that shoe thread please.

:oldlol:

[bladefd]

I don't think Russia is stupid enough to enter Poland. I really hope not because that would surely start a world war.

[BurningHammer]

https://i.redd.it/9weeqxybvuj81.jpg

Bless this studio :bowdown:

[n00bie]

I don't think Russia is stupid enough to enter Poland. I really hope not because that would surely start a world war.

I wouldn't be surprised if Putin tries tbh. He seems to think threatening a nuclear war means he can do anything he wants.

[eliteballer]

Trump Praises Putin, Leaving Republicans in a Bind
G.O.P. leaders, while condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, were silent on comments made by the former president. Some figures on the right amplified them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/world/europe/trump-putin-russia-ukraine.html



Trump and other top conservatives rally to Putin's side as he threatens Ukraine

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-other-top-conservatives-rally-to-putins-side-over-ukraine-threat-2022-2



Trump Calls Putin’s Invasion of Ukraine Smart, Blames Biden for Not Doing Enough

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news/card/trump-calls-putin-s-invasion-of-ukraine-smart-blames-biden-for-not-doing-enough-JicGb9xT5GnCZpQdiBjN

Looks like Putin still has Trump on a leash.

[John_Connor]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/world/europe/trump-putin-russia-ukraine.html




https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-other-top-conservatives-rally-to-putins-side-over-ukraine-threat-2022-2




https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news/card/trump-calls-putin-s-invasion-of-ukraine-smart-blames-biden-for-not-doing-enough-JicGb9xT5GnCZpQdiBjN

Looks like Putin still has Trump on a leash.

great minds think alike

russia is doing what is necessary for their own survival. putin has the glasses and can see these one world government alien lizards infiltrating Ukraine

https://i.ibb.co/ZgNvV90/giphy-11.gif

https://i.ibb.co/XyjGLb5/ctMPhbB.gif

[theman93]

https://youtu.be/5nUZekJ3pfM

[John_Connor]

https://youtu.be/5nUZekJ3pfM

https://i.ibb.co/D1kXBNy/20220224-232244.jpg

"completely unprovoked attack out of nowhere"

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't think Russia is stupid enough to enter Poland. I really hope not because that would surely start a world war.

You said that about Ukraine.

[bullettooth]

**** me why are they doing this bs

Russians have always done this. Nothing new.

[bladefd]

You said that about Ukraine.

Nope, I did not.

Poland is different because it's a NATO member. Russia would have to be nuts to invade a NATO member with US troops stationed there.

Ukraine is not a NATO member and there are no US troops there.

[diamenz]

players to all of the ukrainians that can't play elden ring tonight.

[zeerghit]

So rub is up today by 10% nice sanctions

[ZenMaster]

It's super weird how mainstream media and reddit won't even acknowledge the 2014 coup in Ukraine, that was very recent. Is Putin doing the right thing? That's up for debate, but Europe and the U.S. provoked him into doing this. He just didn't get up one morning and say "Fvck it, I'm gonna attack a country for no reason", like some news outlets and Biden are saying.

Politicians and main stream media are the ones who created the official story of a revolution - winners write the history books.

In Ukraine, it's rather common knowledge that it happened through coercion and US influence, but within the US most people are definitely in the dark about it as the whole thing about Ukraine became centered about Burisma and the grafting connected to that company - and whether or not that whole ordeal was just Russian disinformation.

Take someone like bladed for example, whenever the events of 2014 has been mentioned, he just skips over it in his responses and thereby refuses to take into relation to the current situation.
Does he know it happened and just want to pretend that it didn't because it doesn't fit the narrative that he wants to paint?
Does he not know that it happened, but think that it sounds plausible as something the US would do and therefore doesn't want to take it into consideration at it would make the politicians he supports look bad?

Who knows, but usually when there's something that's not part of the official narrative, he's quick to point out that it's not true because he can't read about it on CNN.

[coin24]

Politicians and main stream media are the ones who created the official story of a revolution - winners write the history books.

In Ukraine, it's rather common knowledge that it happened through coercion and US influence, but within the US most people are definitely in the dark about it as the whole thing about Ukraine became centered about Burisma and the grafting connected to that company - and whether or not that whole ordeal was just Russian disinformation.

Take someone like bladed for example, whenever the events of 2014 has been mentioned, he just skips over it in his responses and thereby refuses to take into relation to the current situation.
Does he know it happened and just want to pretend that it didn't because it doesn't fit the narrative that he wants to paint?
Does he not know that it happened, but think that it sounds plausible as something the US would do and therefore doesn't want to take it into consideration at it would make the politicians he supports look bad?

Who knows, but usually when there's something that's not part of the official narrative, he's quick to point out that it's not true because he can't read about it on CNN.


Whatever blades take on any situation is, it’s always completely wrong :oldlol:

[bladefd]

Politicians and main stream media are the ones who created the official story of a revolution - winners write the history books.

In Ukraine, it's rather common knowledge that it happened through coercion and US influence, but within the US most people are definitely in the dark about it as the whole thing about Ukraine became centered about Burisma and the grafting connected to that company - and whether or not that whole ordeal was just Russian disinformation.

Take someone like bladed for example, whenever the events of 2014 has been mentioned, he just skips over it in his responses and thereby refuses to take into relation to the current situation.
Does he know it happened and just want to pretend that it didn't because it doesn't fit the narrative that he wants to paint?
Does he not know that it happened, but think that it sounds plausible as something the US would do and therefore doesn't want to take it into consideration at it would make the politicians he supports look bad?

Who knows, but usually when there's something that's not part of the official narrative, he's quick to point out that it's not true because he can't read about it on CNN.

There's my favorite Russian shill still busy defending Russia/Putin even after the russkies have entered Kyiv and searching to hang the Ukrainian president. How are you doing? What time is it currently in Russia?

[John_Connor]

There's my favorite Russian shill still busy defending Russia/Putin even after the russkies have entered Kyiv and searching to hang the Ukrainian president. How are you doing? What time is it currently in Russia?

russia is right to go to war with Ukraine.

it would be like Russia or China putting in their own leaders in Canada or Mexico then bringing in troops and artillery and funneling billions through their banks and it magically disappearing. the US had no business going into Ukraine and turning it into another military base for the west to spy on them and create strategic positioning in case of all out world war

[bison]

There's my favorite Russian shill still busy defending Russia/Putin even after the russkies have entered Kyiv and searching to hang the Ukrainian president. How are you doing? What time is it currently in Russia?

Why do you keep calling him a 'Russian shill'? You think he's being paid by the Russian government to make pro-Russia post on ISH of all places? It makes you look deranged. You probably think Russians rigged the 2016 election too.

[bison]

People who believe in Russiagate and that Russia is the villain in everything can't conceive of the fact that not every person on Earth thinks like a CNN-brainwashed lib. Their bubble is so small and they never leave it.

[bison]

https://i.ibb.co/VgvVyHt/20220224-193020.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/XWfhNjz/rapinoe-morgan-100719.jpg

Cuckoldry. Sooo unfair men have to fight in wars. But guess who starts wars? Men, dumbass. So what's the issue?

Why do wignats like Kenny complain about feminism, but then also complain about the draft? Men are evolved to be fighters and defenders. That's not 'oppression', that's our duty to fight. But we live in a weak world with weak men like Kenny so they blame everything on 'feminism'. (Nevermind that war is horrific for women too, considering the dangers of being raped increase exponentially in a war zone)

[bison]

we really are starting ww3 huh...:facepalm

Why do Americans think every skirmish and conflict is "ww3"

[ZenMaster]

Why do you keep calling him a 'Russian shill'? You think he's being paid by the Russian government to make pro-Russia post on ISH of all places? It makes you look deranged. You probably think Russians rigged the 2016 election too.

Bladed told a story in this thread about Ukranian history that was 100% opposite of the truth. I don't know where he got the story from, but someone must have carefully constructed a narrative for him.
When the truth was laid out in front of him, it appears his brain broke.
It's happenned before too, he's quite litterally accused me of being a Russian who gets paid to post on the internet. Oh, and a right winger from Australia, at one point that's what I was as well :oldlol:

[SATAN]

He's not a Russian shill, he's a US 4chan troll living in Europe.

[bladefd]

Why do you keep calling him a 'Russian shill'? You think he's being paid by the Russian government to make pro-Russia post on ISH of all places? It makes you look deranged. You probably think Russians rigged the 2016 election too.

You don't have to necessarily be working for that government to be considered a shill. When you are constantly spouting nonsense defending that government's aggressions, you can be called a shill.

No, I don't believe Russia rigged the 2016 election.

[bladefd]

Bladed told a story in this thread about Ukranian history that was 100% opposite of the truth. I don't know where he got the story from, but someone must have carefully constructed a narrative for him.
When the truth was laid out in front of him, it appears his brain broke.
It's happenned before too, he's quite litterally accused me of being a Russian who gets paid to post on the internet. Oh, and a right winger from Australia, at one point that's what I was as well :oldlol:

I will ask here too. What evidence do you have that president Biden was actively pushing for Ukraine to join NATO? He officially took office on January 20, 2021. What has he actively done since that day to push for Ukraine to join NATO?

[John_Connor]

Cuckoldry. Sooo unfair men have to fight in wars. But guess who starts wars? Men, dumbass. So what's the issue?

Why do wignats like Kenny complain about feminism, but then also complain about the draft? Men are evolved to be fighters and defenders. That's not 'oppression', that's our duty to fight. But we live in a weak world with weak men like Kenny so they blame everything on 'feminism'. (Nevermind that war is horrific for women too, considering the dangers of being raped increase exponentially in a war zone)

actually women and minorities started this. like I said in another post it's mostly due to a democratic operative to infiltrate the Ukrainian government and they're the party for feminists and minorities.

men voted for trump. the guy who was mostly peaceful during his time in office aside from that drone strike that killed a known terrorist leader.

trump in fact was considered for a Nobel peace prize nomination for his efforts in North Korea and other places around the world.

and the "toxic masculinity" you referred to as the eater of world's mostly voted for trump


if women want to vote...so then should they fight

https://i.ibb.co/ChJHdCh/Screenshot-20220225-164040-Google.jpg

[eliteballer]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1497273383859413000

[John_Connor]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1497273383859413000

ww3 incoming

:roll:


so long boyz. I'm off to Northern quebec. not staying in a major capital much longer

[ZenMaster]

I will ask here too. What evidence do you have that president Biden was actively pushing for Ukraine to join NATO? He officially took office on January 20, 2021. What has he actively done since that day to push for Ukraine to join NATO?

читай другую ветку идиот.

[bladefd]

читай другую ветку идиот.

Ладно шалун

[John_Connor]

cnn just released a video of joe biden and Volodymyr Zelenskyy discussing the threat of Vladimir Putin



https://youtu.be/sPzlpbzku2E

[eliteballer]

https://twitter.com/euromaidanpress/status/1497335476293980160

[eliteballer]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-25/chinese-state-banks-restrict-financing-for-russian-commodities

[eliteballer]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1497320344054599685

[eliteballer]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/explainer-does-the-ukrainian-military-stand-a-chance-against-putins-invasion-155008064.html

[BurningHammer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y2iVHUMZhg

RIP Ukrainian Snake Island bros :(

[BurningHammer]

China, Turkey, Kazakhstan and freakin' Taliban are all against Russia. :eek:

[John_Connor]

r.i.p


didn't know Vitali was the mayor of Kyiv

always thought they were both Russian. weird

https://i.ibb.co/LQqKpdd/Screenshot-20220226-010854-Gallery.jpg

[Axe]

China, Turkey, Kazakhstan and freakin' Taliban are all against Russia. :eek:
Lol china? Wtf.

[Axe]

RRRetard3
Yikes, looks like the fraud folk really has gotten you all riled up 24/7 hasn't he?

[BurningHammer]

Lol china? Wtf.

China are still siding geopolitically with Russia, but they can't and won't commend Russia's actions right now, calling out Putin to negotiate. They and India, another Russia ally, both abstained from UN vote for Russia to stop the invasion.

[BurningHammer]

China, Turkey, Kazakhstan and freakin' Taliban are all against Russia. :eek:

Add Lebanon to the list of world condemnation.

Only Myanmar military junta and Trump publicly praises Putin's action so far. That really says something. :ohwell:

[SATAN]

China, Turkey, Kazakhstan and freakin' Taliban are all against Russia. :eek:

Add Lebanon to the list of world condemnation.

Only Myanmar military junta and Trump publicly praises Putin's action so far. That really says something.

Pretty cool seeing the large majority of the world condemning Putin. Dude is a piece of shit. Shame he has those nukes.

[John_Connor]

Pretty cool seeing the large majority of the world condemning Putin. Dude is a piece of shit. Shame he has those nukes.

I dunno if you ask me he pretty much had no choice. ukraine is their neighbor. letting them join the new world order would be too risky. they've been pretty humane so far in the take over. they easily coulda just went in with bombers and took out everyone. instead theyre going in with ground troops and letting Ukrainians block/jump on their tanks without any retaliation. they're trying hard to keep this a military vs military war.


like what if China put in a new leader in Mexico or Canada and parked a bunch of military next to the US border. everyones acting like Russia should just bend over and let the world close in on them. the ukraine has an actor with no political history leading them into annihilation. he should surrender and negotiate. nato was a false promise by democratic sheep to gain intelligence on Russia. the US sanctions is the most no f*cks given response. its obvious nobody truly gives a f*ck about those people. they should embrace their neighbors and join forces

[SATAN]

I dunno if you ask me

I didn't.

[John_Connor]

I didn't.

because you don't wanna hear the truth.

answer this question if you have the balls. would the US let Russia or China infiltrate Canada or Mexico or would they invade and say they "liberated Canada from evil"

[ZenMaster]

I dunno if you ask me he pretty much had no choice. ukraine is their neighbor. letting them join the new world order would be too risky. they've been pretty humane so far in the take over. they easily coulda just went in with bombers and took out everyone. instead theyre going in with ground troops and letting Ukrainians block/jump on their tanks without any retaliation. they're trying hard to keep this a military vs military war.


like what if China put in a new leader in Mexico or Canada and parked a bunch of military next to the US border. everyones acting like Russia should just bend over and let the world close in on them. the ukraine has an actor with no political history leading them into annihilation. he should surrender and negotiate. nato was a false promise by democratic sheep to gain intelligence on Russia. the US sanctions is the most no f*cks given response. its obvious nobody truly gives a f*ck about those people. they should embrace their neighbors and join forces


https://youtu.be/93eyhO8VTdg

[John_Connor]

https://youtu.be/93eyhO8VTdg

could you imagine a Chinese leader doing this speech in ottawa to canadians after they installed a new leader they approve of lmfao

[John_Connor]

https://voca.ro/1ez6CzGxS4Yb

:roll:

[SATAN]

because you don't wanna hear the truth.

answer this question if you have the balls. would the US let Russia or China infiltrate Canada or Mexico or would they invade and say they "liberated Canada from evil"

I know you think this is a smart question but it's not at all. Move to Russia.

[John_Connor]

I know you think this is a smart question but it's not at all. Move to Russia.

then answer it. stop being a p*ssy

and why would I move over there. its better here even with the corrupt liberal government of canada. are you insinuating that its ok to infiltrate or invade other countries only if it benifits the United states?

I guess you can't use common sense and put yourself in someone else's shoes if it goes against the US plan for world domination. sorry I just speak the truth. if I was putin I would eradicate Ukraine and tell the west to f*ck off

same as we would do if they tried coming over here and taking over a western nation. you're being a hypocrite

[SATAN]

You are alledgedly a rich **** who doesn't have to work another day in his life, has a high quality of living yet all you do is complain.

You aren't steering me into a drawn out argument over nothing. **** off idiot.

[John_Connor]

You are alledgedly a rich **** who doesn't have to work another day in his life, has a high quality of living yet all you do is complain.

You aren't steering me into a drawn out argument over nothing. **** off idiot.

yeah I wish I was sooooo positive like you lmao


"EVERYONES SO F*CKING STUPID"

"IVE NEVER POSTED ANYWHERE WORSE"


"THIS GUYS A MORON"


":facepalm"

"**** off!"



rinse repeat

:roll:

[SATAN]

Seems like many more Russian troops have been killed than Ukrainian troops. Putin has made a total fool out of himself so far.

[1987_Lakers]

Seems like many more Russian troops have been killed than Ukrainian troops. Putin has made a total fool out of himself so far.

An advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Saturday that 3,500 Russian soldiers have been killed or injured amid Russia's war with Ukraine,

The Ukraine Health Ministry reported 198 Ukrainian deaths and 1,115 injuries. The ministry did not clarify if this data was the total number of casualties or civilian only casualties.

[John_Connor]

Why are you talking to yourself kenny?

that's Jeff pretending to be me

[John_Connor]

An advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Saturday that 3,500 Russian soldiers have been killed or injured amid Russia's war with Ukraine,

The Ukraine Health Ministry reported 198 Ukrainian deaths and 1,115 injuries. The ministry did not clarify if this data was the total number of casualties or civilian only casualties.

like I said theyre being too humane going in with ground troops before bombing everything. it's suicide basically. they should be going in like this



https://youtu.be/gh-KWJWRjcI

[Axe]

The airships have arrived.

https://hubnob.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/156417911_4335943476435222_5214219509680541640_n-768x432.jpg

[John_Connor]

The airships have arrived.

https://hubnob.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/156417911_4335943476435222_5214219509680541640_n-768x432.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMi7zrrvqEw&ab_channel=Milkman00

[zeerghit]

like I said theyre being too humane going in with ground troops before bombing everything. it's suicide basically. they should be going in like this



https://youtu.be/gh-KWJWRjcI

must say you one of the most cringest guy i ever saw, just pathetic that you even allowed here

[John_Connor]

must say you one of the most cringest guy i ever saw, just pathetic that you even allowed here

I honestly don't have a clue who you are. I go by avatars to remember most posters. I probly only remember like 10 names on here

[zeerghit]

I honestly don't have a clue who you are. I go by avatars to remember most posters. I probly only remember like 10 names on here

im glad about first part, and second you are 40+ grown man and making post like this, you are rat simple as that

[John_Connor]

im glad about first part, and second you are 40+ grown man and making post like this, you are rat simple as that

antisemite

[SATAN]

im glad about first part, and second you are 40+ grown man and making post like this, you are rat simple as that

:oldlol:

[John_Connor]

:oldlol:

but his post wasn't funny. he just sounds like a nancy like yourself. I suppose you wanna call me a rat too?


don't you know how much words can hurt people

what if I was a semite you f*cking racist. is this what you think they all look like?


https://youtu.be/CNXB0epxxBw

[Media Moderator]

Biden just bombed Syria