Wilt might be the unluckiest player

[Vino24]

He got beat by his JJ Barea (Russell) like 8 times in a row:biggums:

[HylianNightmare]

Varejao in b2b finals on the opposite teams los9ng both times was pretty bad

[TheGoatest]

LeBron is definitely the most unlucky player ever. Nobody else had so many injured teammates in the playoffs/finals throughout the years.
Not to mention having to face the most stacked team of all time (73-9 team + Durant) without a scratch on them 2 seasons, then Durant and Klay both get injured the first season he doesn't face them.

Yet despite circumstances being against him his entire career, he somehow still won 4 chips/FMVPs with 3 teams/coaches in 2 conferences. :applause: :eek:

[coastalmarker99]

if a combined total of three or four minutes had unfolded in Wilt's favour, out of the roughly 55,000 in his career, you're looking at an entirely different legacy for him.


As Here are Wilt's "near misses":


1962: 2 pts from beating Celtics.


If Warriors had beaten the Celtics in 1962 they would have to beat the Lakers to win the title.

But both teams were evenly matched.


1965: 1 pt from beating Celtics.


If the 76ers had beaten the Celtics in the 1965 ECF then they would have won the title against the Lakers in the finals.


As the Lakers were missing Baylor due to injury

1968: 4 pts from beating Celtics.


The 76ers would have been favoured against the Lakers in the 1968 Finals had they gotten past Boston.


1969: 2 pts from beating Celtics and winning another title.



1973 finals against the Knicks, the Lakers lost 3 games by 4, 4, and 5 points which cost them the title.








Wilt if he wins those close games most likely has 6 championship rings and he would be right up there with Jordan in the general public's mind as his statistical achievements are unparalleled.

[Vino24]

if a combined total of three or four minutes had unfolded in Wilt's favour, out of the roughly 55,000 in his career, you're looking at an entirely different legacy for him.




Wilt most likely has 6 championship rings and he would be right up there with Jordan in the general public's mind as his statistical achievements are unparalleled.

LeBron is erasing wilt and MJ stats

[Full Court]

if a combined total of three or four minutes had unfolded in Wilt's favour, out of the roughly 55,000 in his career, you're looking at an entirely different legacy for him.




Wilt most likely has 6 championship rings and he would be right up there with Jordan in the general public's mind as his statistical achievements are unparalleled.

In my mind, he is right up there with Jordan. I have Jordan #1 and Wilt #2 because championships do matter. When it comes to individual peak dominance though, I don't think anyone touches Wilt.

[coastalmarker99]

LeBron is erasing wilt and MJ stats

Wilt still owns over 200 NBA records to this very day despite having retired 50 years ago.



All of Wilt's scoring and rebounding records are basically untouchable at this point.


Plus his single-season records such as his 50PPG average and 48.5 MPG average.


So therefore Lebron is clearly not erasing Wilt's stats.

[Full Court]

A true beta that never led a title team in scoring. Bill Russell and the celtics bitch. I'm pretty sure he's gay as well, his son is gay. The only other gay alltime great is Magic Johnson i would say.

Very profound, well articulated argument.


Moron.

[coastalmarker99]

In my mind, he is right up there with Jordan. I have Jordan #1 and Wilt #2 because championships do matter. When it comes to individual peak dominance though, I don't think anyone touches Wilt.

This is Wilt at age 35 coming off a serious knee injury and also playing with a broken hand.


Dropping (24/29/8/8) to win his second title.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF9LkwdiLe8

For the bulk of this game, the Knicks had four HOF players on the court: Walt Frazier, Jerry Lucas, Dave DeBusschere, Earl Monroe.
All of those guys were also on the recent 75 greatest players list.


Two other players getting the most minutes on that team included Bill Bradley, a solid All-Star player, who was inducted into the HOF.


and a gritty, 6’10” defensive-specialist and role player, who would go on to become one of the greatest coaches in NBA history, Phil Jackson.


It was against that team that an aging injured Wilt had this amazing performance.


Absolutely incredible.


To play like this at the end of his career shows you how dominant of a player he really was.

[coastalmarker99]

In my mind, he is right up there with Jordan. I have Jordan #1 and Wilt #2 because championships do matter. When it comes to individual peak dominance though, I don't think anyone touches Wilt.

Honestly, as insane as the 50ppg season is, and as crazy as the 100 point game is.


I think the finest display of Wilt's abilities was 1966 to 1968, where he averaged 24pt, 8a, and 24rb on ~63% shooting

Some highlights:

9 consecutive triple-doubles

53 triple-doubles in two seasons (31 in 66-67, 22 in 67-68).

35 consecutive field goals without a recorded miss

32 consecutive field goals without a recorded miss (yes, these are two separate streaks in 66-67)

Multiple 100% field goal percentage games, including the top 3 all time: 18 of 18, 16 of 16, 15 of 15.

In 1967, set the regular season fg percentage record at 68% (he would later break this record)

Led the league in assists one season, the only center to do so.

A couple of select games:

Double triple-double: 22pts 21a 25rb.

quadruple-double (24 points, 32 rebounds, 12 assists, and 12 blocks) against Bill Russell in Game 1 of the 1967 Eastern Division Playoffs

Quintuple double 53 points, 32 rebounds, 14 assists, 24 blocks, and 11 steals



Best of the 100% games: 42pts on 18 of 18 shooting, 30 rb, 10a.

And I could go on Chamberlain is the most versatile center to ever play the game period.

And a lot of people don't know this because the 50ppg season and 100 pt game kinda overshadow everything else.

[Full Court]

Honestly, as insane as the 50ppg season is, and as crazy as the 100 point game is.


I think the finest display of Wilt's abilities was 1966 to 1968, where he averaged 24pt, 8a, and 24rb on ~63% shooting

Some highlights:

9 consecutive triple-doubles

53 triple-doubles in two seasons (31 in 66-67, 22 in 67-68).

35 consecutive field goals without a recorded miss

32 consecutive field goals without a recorded miss (yes, these are two separate streaks in 66-67)

Multiple 100% field goal percentage games, including the top 3 all time: 18 of 18, 16 of 16, 15 of 15.

In 1967, set the regular season fg percentage record at 68% (he would later break this record)

Led the league in assists one season, the only center to do so.

A couple of select games:

Double triple-double: 22pts 21a 25rb.

quadruple-double (24 points, 32 rebounds, 12 assists, and 12 blocks) against Bill Russell in Game 1 of the 1967 Eastern Division Playoffs

Quintuple double 53 points, 32 rebounds, 14 assists, 24 blocks, and 11 steals



Best of the 100% games: 42pts on 18 of 18 shooting, 30 rb, 10a.

And I could go on Chamberlain is the most versatile center to ever play the game period.

And a lot of people don't know this because the 50ppg season and 100 pt game kinda overshadow everything else.

Great post!

[coastalmarker99]

LeBron is erasing wilt and MJ stats

Wilt is the real all-time leader in triple-doubles, quadruple doubles, and quintuple doubles in both the regular season and playoffs.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tTIVEWsAP14/VkFK-IE7GHI/AAAAAAAAHSo/n_u04_ScpoQ/s0-Ic42/Wilt%252520blocked%252520shots.jpg


1967 NBA Eastern Conference Finals:

Game 1 - Boston Celtics @ Philadelphia 76ers (Mar 31)

Wilt Chamberlain drops 24 points, 32 rebounds, 13 assists and blocks 12 shots.

https://twitter.com/WiltStats/status/1477998890590748676?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1477998890590748676%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.realgm.com%2Fboards%2 Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D2153289


In-game 5 against the Royals in the 1965 playoffs, first round in a winner take all game

Wilt's stats were 38 points,26 rebounds and 10 blocked shots not bad for an elimination game you think

[iamgine]

I don't think most people nowadays care about 60s basketball.

Just like Mikan dominated in the 50s and nobody cared about him.

[Elosha]

LeBron is erasing wilt and MJ stats

LeBron will never erase 4/10, 6/6, 2011, and losing with home-court advantage multiple times. Or being blown out by historic margins by the Spurs, getting swept in the finals multiple times/losing in five games, and just being completely dominated. He is set somewhere between number two and number five ATG, no matter how many meaningless regular-season points he puts up while his Lakers flounder, leaderless. He's lucky to have four titles, but he is truly a great. But not a GOAT.

[Baller789]

LeBron is erasing wilt and MJ stats

Looks like you are getting sonned.. bad.

[HylianNightmare]

This is Wilt at age 35 coming off a serious knee injury and also playing with a broken hand.


Dropping (24/29/8/8) to win his second title.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF9LkwdiLe8

For the bulk of this game, the Knicks had four HOF players on the court: Walt Frazier, Jerry Lucas, Dave DeBusschere, Earl Monroe.
All of those guys were also on the recent 75 greatest players list.


Two other players getting the most minutes on that team included Bill Bradley, a solid All-Star player, who was inducted into the HOF.


and a gritty, 6’10” defensive-specialist and role player, who would go on to become one of the greatest coaches in NBA history, Phil Jackson.


It was against that team that an aging injured Wilt had this amazing performance.


Absolutely incredible.


To play like this at the end of his career shows you how dominant of a player he really was.

Insane

[coastalmarker99]

Here is a fun fact.

Wilt owns 10/34 (29%) of the 30 Rebound Games in the 70s despite playing in only 4/10 of the years.

He also owns 10/24 (42%) of the 30 Rebound Games from 1970-1973.


Simply put Wilt was the GOAT rebounder in NBA history.



As Wilt was far and away the greatest rebounder during the regular season in NBA history, yet somehow his rebounding improved in the playoffs.

And then his rebounding improved further against Bill Russell in the playoffs.

Wilt holds the 2nd all-time career playoff TRB% at 21.34%, behind only Dwight Howard, a record Dwight can easily lose within a couple of years.

And Wilt rebounded that effectively playing over 47mpg without ever missing a playoff game.

Wilt outrebounded everyone in every playoff series of his career besides one single exception


Also, another fun fact is.


The only season Wilt Chamberlain didn't lead the league in either scoring or rebounding during his 14-year career was 1969-70 when he only played 12 games due to injury.

That is insane.

[coastalmarker99]

LeBron is erasing wilt and MJ stats


The NBA was forced to literally change the rules of the game to make it fairer for the other players because of Wilt's dominance.

Secondly, the 60's era in which Wilt played, was a more physical era than nowadays.

There were no sissy flagrant or hand-check fouls during that time.


Refs allowed those physical tactics to go unpunished because the owners and NBA management believe that blood and violence was what brought people to basketball games back then.

Superstar players like Wilt received no favourable treatment from refs and, in fact, refs often sided with the opposing team against Wilt because they felt that he was simply too dominating.




And what made it even more amazing is that he had 3-to 4 guys collapsing and getting rough on him whenever he touched the ball.


Unless you're Bill Russell and feeling lucky, Wilt was never played one on one.

Clyde Lovellette of the Celtics knocked a couple of Wilt's front teeth into the roof of his mouth on one play.

Wilt suffered a serious infection, and the teeth were never set properly in the operation, and this caused Wilt to live with a serious deal of pain for the rest of his life.

At the time of his death in 1999, he had been scheduled to undergo surgery to (hopefully) fix those teeth (which had never been properly repaired, and never properly healed), but Wilt passed away before the surgery could take place.

The injury was aggravated later that year by Willie Naulls of the Knicks.

Tom Heinson of the Celtics also was involved in some very rough shots.

Unfortunately for Wilt, he was not in a position to retaliate.

Any double ejection would be an unequal trade, and Wilt was not a mean guy, to begin with.

The physical play was so rough against him that Wilt actually retired after his rookie year.

He wrote a piece for Look Magazine about the NBA being a bush league, but the Warriors' owner talked him into coming back, even though Wilt was ready to hang it up.

Over the years, many referees have admitted that they let guys get away with clobbering Wilt on the offensive end.

The league really didn't know how to handle Wilt, and subconsciously, the refs let the little guys get away with murder.

In earlier years, they did this to make up for the fact that Wilt was so big and talented.

In later years, they did this because they felt sorry for Wilt because he couldn't shoot free throws very well.

One ref told him, "Wilt, I know you get hacked every time, but the game would be pretty boring watching you go one for two from the line every time down the court."

[warriorfan]

Costal on the bron stans top ten most wanted list after this thread

[iamgine]

This is Wilt at age 35 coming off a serious knee injury and also playing with a broken hand.


Dropping (24/29/8/8) to win his second title.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF9LkwdiLe8

For the bulk of this game, the Knicks had four HOF players on the court: Walt Frazier, Jerry Lucas, Dave DeBusschere, Earl Monroe.
All of those guys were also on the recent 75 greatest players list.


Two other players getting the most minutes on that team included Bill Bradley, a solid All-Star player, who was inducted into the HOF.


and a gritty, 6’10” defensive-specialist and role player, who would go on to become one of the greatest coaches in NBA history, Phil Jackson.


It was against that team that an aging injured Wilt had this amazing performance.


Absolutely incredible.


To play like this at the end of his career shows you how dominant of a player he really was.
That Knicks team won like 48 games.

It's like beating this season's Dallas Mavericks.

[Full Court]

Costal on the bron stans top ten most wanted list after this thread

:roll:

Oh no! That means they'll start accusing him of being an alt and replying with "meltdown." :lol

[coastalmarker99]

That Knicks team won like 48 games.

It's like beating this season's Dallas Mavericks.



That 1972 Knicks team had five HOF players and also a HOF coach and they also ran right through the east en route to the finals.

Not to mention they were doing this without arguably their best player Willis Reed who was a beast and is another hall of fame player.


To compare them to this season's Dallas Mavericks team is just disrespectful to those great Knicks teams of the early 1970's



As it took Wilt averaging 19 PPG-23 RPG-7BPG on 60.0% to beat them as Jerry West was held to a horrific 32.5 from the floor,

[ArbitraryWater]

Honestly, as insane as the 50ppg season is, and as crazy as the 100 point game is.


I think the finest display of Wilt's abilities was 1966 to 1968, where he averaged 24pt, 8a, and 24rb on ~63% shooting

Some highlights:

9 consecutive triple-doubles

53 triple-doubles in two seasons (31 in 66-67, 22 in 67-68).

35 consecutive field goals without a recorded miss

32 consecutive field goals without a recorded miss (yes, these are two separate streaks in 66-67)

Multiple 100% field goal percentage games, including the top 3 all time: 18 of 18, 16 of 16, 15 of 15.

In 1967, set the regular season fg percentage record at 68% (he would later break this record)

Led the league in assists one season, the only center to do so.

A couple of select games:

Double triple-double: 22pts 21a 25rb.

quadruple-double (24 points, 32 rebounds, 12 assists, and 12 blocks) against Bill Russell in Game 1 of the 1967 Eastern Division Playoffs

Quintuple double 53 points, 32 rebounds, 14 assists, 24 blocks, and 11 steals



Best of the 100% games: 42pts on 18 of 18 shooting, 30 rb, 10a.

And I could go on Chamberlain is the most versatile center to ever play the game period.

And a lot of people don't know this because the 50ppg season and 100 pt game kinda overshadow everything else.



its really quite puzzling whenever you run across these things

[iamgine]

That 1972 Knicks team had five HOF players and also a HOF coach and they also ran right through the east en route to the finals.

Not to mention they were doing this without arguably their best player Willis Reed who was a beast and is another hall of fame player.


To compare them to this season's Dallas Mavericks team is just disrespectful to those great Knicks teams of the early 1970's



As it took Wilt averaging 19 PPG-23 RPG-7BPG on 60.0% to beat them as Jerry West was held to a horrific 32.5 from the floor,

They won like 48 games.

They were not that good.

[AirBonner]

its really quite puzzling whenever you run across these things

What’s puzzling? Wilt was an actual nba player playing against part time players whose main jobs included car mechanic janitor and restaurant waiter. Yet he still lost

[coastalmarker99]

What’s puzzling? Wilt was an actual nba player playing against part time players whose main jobs included car mechanic janitor and restaurant waiter. Yet he still lost

In 1970 a 33-year-old past his peak Wilt averaged 27ppg/18rpg/4apg while a 22-year-old Kareem averaged 29ppg/15rpg/4apg.

A decade later, Magic and Bird were drafted and the 3pt line was added, marking what many consider the start of the "modern" NBA.


That same season, a 33-year-old Kareem who was past his peak won MVP averaging 25ppg/11rpg/5apg.

Kareem dominated in both Wilt's era, and the start of the modern NBA.

Does this not show that Wilt's era was just as competitive as Magic and Birds?

Kareem was performing the same in both.


Also here is a fun fact Wilt is one of two centers who held Kareem to sub 45% shooting, the other guy being Nate Thurmond.

And Wilt was old and playing on a previously shattered knee which was thought to be a career-ending injury back in the day.

In the 3 games, Hakeem defended Kareem in the 1985-86 regular season.

Kareem averaged 41 ppg on 67.5% fg against the Rockets.

This was at age 39.

Kareem also destroyed a rookie Ewing by dropping 40 points on his head this was at age 40.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-jrbwaYMFI

[Baller789]

What’s puzzling? Wilt was an actual nba player playing against part time players whose main jobs included car mechanic janitor and restaurant waiter. Yet he still lost

^Shows ignorance. Lmao!

No true basketball fan would disrepect the history of the game like this.

Mosty Virgin Bronsexuals do this.