62% of Voters say Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Trump were President

[Patrick Chewing]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/595919-62-percent-of-voters-say-putin-wouldnt-have-invaded-ukraine-if-trump


In case you Libtards are bad at Math, 62% is a majority of the country which includes several million Democrats as well. :lol


https://media3.giphy.com/media/Z9nIPmio1WI8D7YWyX/giphy.gif

[Long Duck Dong]

I don't think he would have either. But I have to admit Trump is a little too chummy with that former KGB commie scumbag than I'm comfortable with.

[diamenz]

i don't get it. why wouldn't he have?

...from a policy perspective.

[Jasper]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/595919-62-percent-of-voters-say-putin-wouldnt-have-invaded-ukraine-if-trump


In case you Libtards are bad at Math, 62% is a majority of the country which includes several million Democrats as well. :lol


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we all know trump was a ped , so we also know that he was probably blowing Putin .... ever see that sheepish grim Putin has when he walks into a room and sees Trump.

[bladefd]

we all know trump was a ped , so we also know that he was probably blowing Putin .... ever see that sheepish grim Putin has when he walks into a room and sees Trump.

and the giddy girl looks that Donny gives to Putin:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/10486524-3x2-940x627.jpg
https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_nbcnews-fp-1200-630,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2022-02/220223-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-al-0719-7f4f9e.jpg
https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5a05cb3debb54658258f6687/master/pass/t-Trump-Putin-Matching.jpg

'The useful idiot' sounds more like it.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Putin did not need to invade Ukraine. Trump was doing his dirty work by breaking up NATO.

[CelticBaller]

they're idiots, Putin doesnt give a ****

[BurningHammer]

they're idiots, Putin doesnt give a ****

Until his oligarch friendos are collectively pissed at him.

[Lakers Legend#32]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/595919-62-percent-of-voters-say-putin-wouldnt-have-invaded-ukraine-if-trump


In case you Libtards are bad at Math, 62% is a majority of the country which includes several million Democrats as well. :lol


https://media3.giphy.com/media/Z9nIPmio1WI8D7YWyX/giphy.gif

What Poopsie means is 62% of QAnon voters.

[Overdrive]

Putin doesn't give a shit who's US president. If you believe this invasion wasn't planned years ahead you're pretty naive. The difference is that Trump wouldn't have used such escalating rhetoric - when it comes to Putin - while doing absolutely nothing.

[bladefd]

Putin doesn't give a shit who's US president. If you believe this invasion wasn't planned years ahead you're pretty naive. The difference is that Trump wouldn't have used such escalating rhetoric - when it comes to Putin - while doing absolutely nothing.

Trump would have just watched it unfold and probably do minimal sanctions to score political points.

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump would have just watched it unfold and probably do minimal sanctions to score political points.

:oldlol:

Score political points? With whom?

It's hilarious how much you guys are purposely talking about Trump to take attention away from the incompetence of Joe Biden.

[jstern]

I still haven't followed things as much to have opinions that I'm comfortable with. (For example it took me a year to join the Corona discussion, unlike people like Blade that talk with authority about things where he only read a CNN headline. Or for example, so sure that Kyle Rittenhouse shot Hubert in the back while he was running away, even though the trial was already over, all the facts known, with nobody else saying such a thing.) But from what I gather from my limited knowledge, Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Trump was in charge, just because he wouldn't need to. This seems to be a defensive move for Russia, driven by an agenda behind the people behind Biden. These people are not good people.

I haven't read any comments on the matter, other than I think Blade and Off the Court saying things that Putin is a version of Hitler, and basically being sold, manipulated by the media into thinking this is a simplistic fight between good and evil. You have a complicated history that involves oil, culture, installed governments, and more importantly, the future security of a country. Yet you have CNN convincing simple people that it's just good versus evil, and their team is the caring good guys.

I read something from 2008 of some guy predicting this attack, based on factors related to the security of Russia. Very predictable stuff. (For example, if China gets to install missiles in Canada, or Cuba. That would not be good for the US. Would the US just let it happen?) Yet for the simple minded, Hitler, good versus evil.

[bladefd]

:oldlol:

Score political points? With whom?

It's hilarious how much you guys are purposely talking about Trump to take attention away from the incompetence of Joe Biden.

Republican party. Faux news. The usual suspects in politics like Jim Jordan. I don't think he would have been openly cheering for Russia either because it would make him look bad politically. He would probably just be quiet about it for the most part as it unfolds while golfing on his property until the pressure mounted for sanctions. He would do minimal sanctions and return to golfing. Anyways, he is not even president so I won't go too far.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Remember when that eagle on his desk made Trump sh!t his pants?

[Overdrive]

:oldlol:

Score political points? With whom?

It's hilarious how much you guys are purposely talking about Trump to take attention away from the incompetence of Joe Biden.

Neither Trump nor Biden have anything to do with this situation yet you brought up Trump here, because you and apparently 62% of the asked population believe that he's some sort of magician that would change Putin's plans through simply existing.


I still haven't followed things as much to have opinions that I'm comfortable with. (For example it took me a year to join the Corona discussion, unlike people like Blade that talk with authority about things where he only read a CNN headline. Or for example, so sure that Kyle Rittenhouse shot Hubert in the back while he was running away, even though the trial was already over, all the facts known, with nobody else saying such a thing.) But from what I gather from my limited knowledge, Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Trump was in charge, just because he wouldn't need to. This seems to be a defensive move for Russia, driven by an agenda behind the people behind Biden. These people are not good people.

I haven't read any comments on the matter, other than I think Blade and Off the Court saying things that Putin is a version of Hitler, and basically being sold, manipulated by the media into thinking this is a simplistic fight between good and evil. You have a complicated history that involves oil, culture, installed governments, and more importantly, the future security of a country. Yet you have CNN convincing simple people that it's just good versus evil, and their team is the caring good guys.

I read something from 2008 of some guy predicting this attack, based on factors related to the security of Russia. Very predictable stuff. (For example, if China gets to install missiles in Canada, or Cuba. That would not be good for the US. Would the US just let it happen?) Yet for the simple minded, Hitler, good versus evil.

It's evil vs evil and of course the attack was predictable. Putin never accepted Ukraine's souvereignty. If it was about NATO and missile shields the baltic states and Norway, a NATO founding member, would be the first targets.

The Ukraine is a simple target and in Putin's mind part of Russia. If the US and the NATO never existed Russia would've tried to conquer it long ago.

Ironically you're pretty manipulated by media. How come the pattern Pro-Trump/Anti-Covid/Pro-Putin is reoccuring all the time? What a surprise you're exactly taking the same stance here. You're just manipulated by a different set of media outlets than the american left that follows just another pattern.

Yet people think they're freethinkers and openminded, while they spew the same points as any other right oder leftwing partisan.

[Patrick Chewing]

Has nothing to do with being a magician. Has to do with his brief track record and his ability to broker deals. And it also has to do with the perception of strength that follows him that most certainly doesn't follow Biden.

And for some reason you're repeating this lie just to smear us and Trump, that we're somehow pro Putin. It's disingenuous and only done to protect the incompetence of Joe Biden.

[Overdrive]

Has nothing to do with being a magician. Has to do with his brief track record and his ability to broker deals. And it also has to do with the perception of strength that follows him that most certainly doesn't follow Biden.

And for some reason you're repeating this lie just to smear us and Trump, that we're somehow pro Putin. It's disingenuous and only done to protect the incompetence of Joe Biden.

Putin doesn't want a deal. He wants to annex the Ukraine. There's nothing any US president could offer Putin that'd satisfy him.

I don't give AF about senile Joe.

Pro-Putin as in the attacked was provoked by NATO under the standing US president's guidance. jstern, you among others act like Biden had any say in this attack.

[Off the Court]

I still haven't followed things as much to have opinions that I'm comfortable with. (For example it took me a year to join the Corona discussion, unlike people like Blade that talk with authority about things where he only read a CNN headline. Or for example, so sure that Kyle Rittenhouse shot Hubert in the back while he was running away, even though the trial was already over, all the facts known, with nobody else saying such a thing.) But from what I gather from my limited knowledge, Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Trump was in charge, just because he wouldn't need to. This seems to be a defensive move for Russia, driven by an agenda behind the people behind Biden. These people are not good people.

I haven't read any comments on the matter, other than I think Blade and Off the Court saying things that Putin is a version of Hitler, and basically being sold, manipulated by the media into thinking this is a simplistic fight between good and evil. You have a complicated history that involves oil, culture, installed governments, and more importantly, the future security of a country. Yet you have CNN convincing simple people that it's just good versus evil, and their team is the caring good guys.

I read something from 2008 of some guy predicting this attack, based on factors related to the security of Russia. Very predictable stuff. (For example, if China gets to install missiles in Canada, or Cuba. That would not be good for the US. Would the US just let it happen?) Yet for the simple minded, Hitler, good versus evil.
Life in general is actually very simple. Humans just like to over complicate things. If you kill another man for the soil he stands on God won't care about the details. And more people watch Rogan than CNN, the fake news narrative is dead.

[Chick Stern]

Has nothing to do with being a magician. Has to do with his brief track record and his ability to broker deals. And it also has to do with the perception of strength that follows him that most certainly doesn't follow Biden.

And for some reason you're repeating this lie just to smear us and Trump, that we're somehow pro Putin. It's disingenuous and only done to protect the incompetence of Joe Biden.

What deals? Gurgling Kim’s tiny Korean wank?
Putie’s poodle enabled Putin his whole presidency.
To act like it was otherwise is just abject denial.
“Peace for our time” - Donald J Trump

https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/f8/48/4e/f8484e90cb7ba5517d0bbe01af0456d7.jpg?ref=relatedBo x

Trump has shown a consistent history of rolling onto his back for Vladimir.

https://www.weeklystorybook.com/.a/6a0105369e6edf970b022ad3a17cf8200b-600wi

[Patrick Chewing]

It's so weird that Putin only invades other countries when a Democrat is in office. In 2014 and in 2022. But yeah, Trump is on the minds of every American Liberal at the moment. It's called damage control. :oldlol:

[Off the Court]

It's so weird that Putin only invades other countries when a Democrat is in office. In 2014 and in 2022. But yeah, Trump is on the minds of every American Liberal at the moment. It's called damage control. :oldlol:
This is your own thread about Trump :oldlol: :facepalm

[Patrick Chewing]

This is your own thread about Trump :oldlol: :facepalm

Not really. In reality, this is a thread about Joe Biden

[Chick Stern]

Not really. In reality, this is a thread about Joe Biden

Denial ain’t just a river

[Patrick Chewing]

Denial ain’t just a river

We don't talk about past Presidents as if they're still in office, well, maybe Liberals do. But nevertheless, this article is a dig at Biden and a factual consensus of how the country feels about him right now. You can spin this about Trump all you want, but all you're doing is looking foolish in the process.

Here come more "I don't care about Joe Biden" retorts. :oldlol:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Fatrick Is Old.

[bladefd]

It's so weird that Putin only invades other countries when a Democrat is in office. In 2014 and in 2022. But yeah, Trump is on the minds of every American Liberal at the moment. It's called damage control. :oldlol:

Did you forget about 2008 when Russia went for Georgia? That was when Bush was in office. That was a good try though.

A for attempt
F for everything else

[jstern]

Neither Trump nor Biden have anything to do with this situation yet you brought up Trump here, because you and apparently 62% of the asked population believe that he's some sort of magician that would change Putin's plans through simply existing.



It's evil vs evil and of course the attack was predictable. Putin never accepted Ukraine's souvereignty. If it was about NATO and missile shields the baltic states and Norway, a NATO founding member, would be the first targets.

The Ukraine is a simple target and in Putin's mind part of Russia. If the US and the NATO never existed Russia would've tried to conquer it long ago.

Ironically you're pretty manipulated by media. How come the pattern Pro-Trump/Anti-Covid/Pro-Putin is reoccuring all the time? What a surprise you're exactly taking the same stance here. You're just manipulated by a different set of media outlets than the american left that follows just another pattern.

Yet people think they're freethinkers and openminded, while they spew the same points as any other right oder leftwing partisan.

What media am I being manipulated by? I have barely watched anything on the matter and naturally look at Russia's point of view. Meanwhile the little that I've seen from people is the cringy, "Modern day Hitler. Good versus evil" Simplistic minds unable to look at the factors.

And quite frankly, look at your logic. "In Putin's mind, bla, bla, he wants to conquer." That is sooooo simplistic minded, I'm sorry. Basically some random guy, Putin comes to your awareness the last couple of days, and now you're so sure, 100% right now of what he's thinking. He wants to conquer, and all that simplistic thinking. Ignore any other real life factors. Just making it a simplistic battle of good versus evil is enough for you. Where a pathological liar represents good and caring for the Ukranian people.

I haven't even heard anyone with my point of view.

[bladefd]

What media am I being manipulated by? I have barely watched anything on the matter and naturally look at Russia's point of view. Meanwhile the little that I've seen from people is the cringy, "Modern day Hitler. Good versus evil" Simplistic minds unable to look at the factors.

And quite frankly, look at your logic. "In Putin's mind, bla, bla, he wants to conquer." That is sooooo simplistic minded, I'm sorry. Basically some random guy, Putin comes to your awareness the last couple of days, and now you're so sure, 100% right now of what he's thinking. He wants to conquer, and all that simplistic thinking. Ignore any other real life factors. Just making it a simplistic battle of good versus evil is enough for you. Where a pathological liar represents good and caring for the Ukranian people.

I haven't even heard anyone with my point of view.

Who is saying Putin is Hitler? I don't think anyone here, is there?

Putin had his sights set on Ukraine a couple decades ago. He doesn't believe Ukraine has a right to exist because it is a piece of Russia. Overdrive is correct about that. You can't deny it either because that is what Putin said in his speech a few days ago.

[diamenz]

. You're just manipulated by a different set of media outlets than the american left that follows just another pattern.

Yet people think they're freethinkers and openminded, while they spew the same points as any other right oder leftwing partisan.

this. 99% of people that are emotionally invested in politics only listen to one side of the argument - the one that fits their narrative. they won't consider even just entertaining a thought if it comes from the other side. they just want their red meat.

they hear something that makes sense to their world view and they run with it. this is true for humans in general, it doesn't matter which side of the aisle you fall under.

[Patrick Chewing]

Did you forget about 2008 when Russia went for Georgia? That was when Bush was in office. That was a good try though.

A for attempt
F for everything else

A couple more I forgot. The Arab Spring and the birth of ISIS under Obama. The world is an unstable place when Democrats are in office.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump would be arming Russia right now.

[AKA_AAP]

Racist joe biden lifting U.S. sanctions on a Russian pipeline in 2021 and banning fracking in the U.S. literally funded Russia and the current war that is going on. We now know Racist joe biden is the real Russian puppet.

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump would be arming Russia right now.

You mean kind of like how Biden armed the Taliban by leaving all our equipment behind in Afghanistan? Like that?

[Lakers Legend#32]

You mean kind of like how Biden armed the Taliban by leaving all our equipment behind in Afghanistan? Like that?

Your thinking of when Reagan and Poppy Bush armed Sadaam Iraq.

[Patrick Chewing]

Your thinking of when Reagan and Poppy Bush armed Sadaam Iraq.

No, I'm literally thinking of the 7 soldiers Biden had killed by prematurely pulling out of Afghanistan, and then sending those soldiers back all to be blown up because morons like you elected an incompetent buffoon as President.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Imagine you are Trump.

It's a pretty bad time to be a disastrously bad real estate developer with hundred of millions in debt coming due and your primary source of laundered money currently banned by world banks.

[Jasper]

A couple more I forgot. The Arab Spring and the birth of ISIS under Obama. The world is an unstable place when Democrats are in office.

Putin tweeted Trump today .
Basically the msg said : " Hey buddy, you failed to keep your title president , so when you run in 2024 - I have sent over some Ukrainian votes for you'

[Lakers Legend#32]

No, I'm literally thinking of the 7 soldiers Biden had killed by prematurely pulling out of Afghanistan, and then sending those soldiers back all to be blown up because morons like you elected an incompetent buffoon as President.

You were the biggest supporter when Dubya lied us into a war against the wrong country in Iraq, the only purpose being getting Dubya elected.

7 soldiers? Poopsie did not want to think about the 5,00+ Americans Dubaya killed because that would have ruined his enjoyment of the war.

[Patrick Chewing]

You were the biggest supporter when Dubya lied us into a war against the wrong country in Iraq, the only purpose being getting Dubya elected.

7 soldiers? Poopsie did not want to think about the 5,00+ Americans Dubaya killed because that would have ruined his enjoyment of the war.


What number is 5,00+? Who is Dubaya? You type just as mentally retarded as Jasper. Wouldn't surprise me if this was Jasper since we clearly know this account forgot to log out the other day. :oldlol: