I thought Drummond was trash?

[Cyrus334]

Why is he now suddenly playing better on the Sixers and Nets than he was on the Lakers?

[nineiron]

Why is he now suddenly playing better on the Sixers and Nets than he was on the Lakers?

you know why

#LeCancer

[bison]

Players start shining once the dark cloud known as Lebron is removed from their life.

No better life than #LifeAfterLebron

[Akeem34TheDream]

If you take Lebron stans seriously, that's on you.

[John_Connor]

apparently this is the audio from drummond and lebrons first meeting

https://voca.ro/16wybJAESsU0

[meat]

Why did you think that? He's not great but he's OK

[ShawkFactory]

Andre Drummond and Lebron James played literally 4 games together.

[3ba11]

Lebron does okay at defensive rebounds and personal assists, but otherwise does the vast majority of basketball things at an inferior level, like elevate teammates beyond spot-up roles.

It's impossible for a forward to play with another forward that dominates the ball.. So Drummond was cratered like Bosh, Jamison, Love and Kuzma

Lebron lacks elite jumpshooting skill, so he can't take contested jumpers or run off screens (can't score quickly) or produce off-ball - this forces coaches to employ a low-team-assist, beginner brand with Lebron dominating the ball and 4 shooters around him . It's called 4/10 ball and it requires the most help in history (and still needs more help)

[ShawkFactory]

Just looked it up: not only did Drummond only play 4 games with Lebron, but he averaged 15/12 in those games. In the games without Lebron on the Lakers he was 11/9.

[3ba11]

Just looked it up: not only did Drummond only play 4 games with Lebron, but he averaged 15/12 in those games. In the games without Lebron on the Lakers he was 11/9.


I just looked it up - bigs aren't used to playing alongside other bigs that dominate the ball and they play much better alongside normal bigs that don't dominate the ball.

Hence Drummond killing it without LeWestbrook just like Love, Jamison, Bosh, Ingram and Kuzma

Nothing wrong with being delusional tho .. Carry on

[k0kakw0rld]

Why is he now suddenly playing better on the Sixers and Nets than he was on the Lakers?

He is trash

[ShawkFactory]

I just looked it up - bigs aren't used to playing alongside bigs that dominate the ball and they play much better alongside normal bigs that don't dominate the ball.

Hence Drummond killing it without LeWestbrook just like Love, Jamison, Bosh, Ingram and Kuzma

Nothing wrong with being delusional tho .. Carry on

It made you kind of upset to hear that they only played 4 games together, didn’t it? You wanted to apply your theory so badly!

[FultzNationRISE]

Just looked it up: not only did Drummond only play 4 games with Lebron, but he averaged 15/12 in those games. In the games without Lebron on the Lakers he was 11/9.


Beat me to it.

Drummond was NICE for LAL in the PHX series (relative to his role, not saying he was a star). OPs post makes no sense.

I assume he became a journeyman bc he was disappointing relative to the big contract he got in Detroit. But he seems to be pretty useful as a role player.

[meat]

Why is he now suddenly playing better on the Sixers and Nets than he was on the Lakers?

Seriously. I want to know why you thought he was trash.

[3ba11]

He is trash


Drummond is 13/13 for his career with many rebounding titles - he was getting 18/14 on the Cavs before cratering to 11/7 alongside Lebron

He's a goat-level rebounder

[SouBeachTalents]

Just looked it up: not only did Drummond only play 4 games with Lebron, but he averaged 15/12 in those games. In the games without Lebron on the Lakers he was 11/9.
A decisive end to the thread.

[SouBeachTalents]

Drummond is 13/13 for his career with many rebounding titles - he was getting 18/14 on the Cavs before cratering to 11/7 alongside Lebron

He's a goat-level rebounder
Rodman won 3 rebounding titles in a row on the Bulls.

[noonereal]

He is trash

he is certainly no superstar

[PP34Deuce]

Drummond is inconsistent but solid as a big.

[bladefd]

Just looked it up: not only did Drummond only play 4 games with Lebron, but he averaged 15/12 in those games. In the games without Lebron on the Lakers he was 11/9.

/thread

[3ba11]

Rodman won 3 rebounding titles in a row on the Bulls.


Yes rebounding leaders like Drummond and Rodman aren't "stars"

[ShawkFactory]

A decisive end to the thread.

Strangely enough, some won’t view it that way.

Lebron has such an incredible impact on here that someone who literally played 4 games with him is watched over like a hawk.

[3ba11]

Strangely enough, some won’t view it that way.

Lebron has such an incredible impact on here that someone who literally played 4 games with him is watched over like a hawk.


Lebron cratered every other forward like Love, Bosh, Jamison, Kuzma, Ingram, so it's natural to assume that Drummond would follow the same fate

Only a forward like AD that can make Lebron the "pippen" (lower scorer) doesn't get cratered

[ShawkFactory]

Lebron cratered every other forward like Love, Bosh, Jamison, Kuzma, Ingram, so it's natural to assume that Drummond would follow the same fate

Only a forward like AD that can make Lebron the "pippen" (lower scorer) doesn't get cratered

Way to out yourself as someone who doesn’t watch basketball.

[3ba11]

Way to out yourself as someone who doesn’t watch basketball.


The sober reality is that Lebron only knows how to play 1 way (big man ball-dominance), so he ties the coach's hands and forces them to implement a beginner format with the big man dominating the ball and 4 shooters around him.

28/8/8 players with a low assisted rate (ball-dominators) like Luka, Lebron, Westbrook or Harden only play 1 way - ball-dominance - hence those guys often get demolished (even with super-teams) and can't achieve the best brand of ball in the league, as required to win organically..

Otoh, Jordan's elite jumpshooting skill, post dominance and on-ball/off-ball versatility can play in a wider variety of team strategies and high-assist formats that that yield the best brand of ball, as required to win organically.