Remember when MJ said he was coming back to teach the young wiz how to win?

[Johnny32]

He then proceeded to chuck 34 shots per 100 possessions and lead his team to the lottery. That was embarrassing.

[Real Men Wear Green]

He has 6 rings and a billion dollars. I'm sure he'll be fine. But thank you for your concern.

[Johnny32]

Remember the following season after he traded away rip for stack.

"Things were still being run through Michael Jordan," he continued. "[Head coach] Doug Collins, I love Doug, but I think that was an opportunity for him to make up for some ill moments that they may have had back in Chicago. So, pretty much everything that Michael wanted to do [we did]. We got off to a pretty good start and he didn't like the way the offense was running because it was running a little bit more through me. He wanted to get a little more isolations for him on the post, of course, so we had more isolations for him on the post. And it just kind of spiraled in a way that I didn't enjoy that season at all. The kind of picture I had in my mind of Michael Jordan and the reverence I had for him, I lost a little bit of it during the course of that year."

Lul. So embarrassing.

[SouBeachTalents]

He then proceeded to chuck 34 shots per 100 possessions and lead his team to the lottery. That was embarrassing.
Eh, the 2011 Finals were more embarrassing

[HylianNightmare]

Eh, the 2011 Finals were more embarrassing

Ding

[Johnny32]

Eh, the 2011 Finals were more embarrassing

18-7-7 on 48% is more embarrassing than desperately chucking on a lottery team to keep your career average at 30 ppg despite your team being better off the less you shoot?

i disagree.

[expansionera]

Eh, the 2011 Finals were more embarrassing

Good epitomization of Jordumb-fan logic here, it is better to not make the playoffs whatsoever than it is to lose in the Finals. Unless you’re Bill Russell, those rings don’t count

[Baller789]

Jordan retired 20 years ago.

The insecurity is real.

[Johnny32]

“There is no better way of teaching young players than to be on the court with them as a fellow player, not just in practice, but in NBA games,”

lol proceeds to selfishly stat pad at the expense of those young players and the team.

[TheGoatest]

He did teach some of them to win. Richard Hamilton learned a lot about how NOT to play basketball if you want to win when he played with Jordan on the Wizards. Two seasons later, he was holding up the NBA trophy as the leading scorer of the finals.

[theman93]

He did teach some of them to win. Richard Hamilton learned a lot about how NOT to play basketball if you want to win when he played with Jordan on the Wizards. Two seasons later, he was holding up the NBA trophy as the leading scorer of the finals.

Why are you making up these fairytales? :lol


On the basketball court... When you got an opportunity to learn from the GOAT, and the GOAT plays your position at the 2... it was the greatest experience of all time.

I was able to pick his brain each and every day. I've seen how he attacks the game. He was one of the guys that really validated my mid-range jump shot. In practice, working out with him; one day I’m guarding him, he takes two hard dribbles to the basket, pulls up and he’s like "Yo Rip, master that, get that in your game. That’s the hardest play in the game to guard."

When people say negative impact... the only negative impact that I would say is that you don't want to let him down. You playing with the GOAT, he pass the ball, you want to knock it down. You just don’t wanna let him down. All my experience with MJ has been great, I've been blessed and lucky to get the opportunity to play against him and also play with him in Washington.

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media/rip-hamilton-on-playing-with-michael-jordan-on-the-wizards-it-was-the-greatest-experience-of-all-time

[FultzNationRISE]

Eh, the 2011 Finals were more embarrassing

I have to agree with this.

Altho Wade redeemed himself slightly by grudgingly accepting the beta role in subsequent years, his petty and selfish sabotage over not being the alpha was a tremendous black eye for the league. I think that episode takes the cake.

MJ’s tenure with the Wizards was embarrassing more in a laughing stock kind of way, while Wade’s sabotage was more of a shameful humiliation.

[3ba11]

He then proceeded to chuck 34 shots per 100 possessions and lead his team to the lottery. That was embarrassing.


People don't seem to realize that Jordan did the same thing in 2002 that any great player does at the beginning of an organic journey - they turn a 15-win team into 35 wins like 02' Jordan, 04' Lebron, or 85' Jordan.

So Jordan did great at 38 years old (30-30 with a lottery team), while 37-year Lebron is massive loser with a super-team

Jordan always won more with less like in 2002 or his 6 chips without super-teams or 1b's (equal-scoring partners)

[Johnny32]

He did teach some of them to win. Richard Hamilton learned a lot about how NOT to play basketball if you want to win when he played with Jordan on the Wizards. Two seasons later, he was holding up the NBA trophy as the leading scorer of the finals.

good point.

[Full Court]

All I know is that Wizards Jordan was still giving effort to defense. Not sandbagging so he could pad his scoring stats.

[Spurs m8]

Seems the Warrior comment has triggered little Johnny.

He knows his hero has just set up another playoff mode activated

[Full Court]

Seems the Warrior comment has triggered little Johnny.

He knows his hero has just set up another playoff mode activated

Imagine being so desperate that you have to go back 20 years to try to make your hero look not as bad. :lol

I'd bet that little Johnny was literally crying after last night's game.

[2much_knowledge]

Remember how he had his team as the 2nd seed in the East before injury? I remember

[AlternativeAcc.]

He then proceeded to chuck 34 shots per 100 possessions and lead his team to the lottery. That was embarrassing.

Viscous

Member when he got laughed out of minor league baseball after being given a pity roster spot...

Member when he became the worst GM of all time...



:roll:

[Baller789]

Imagine being so desperate that you have to go back 20 years to try to make your hero look not as bad. :lol

I'd bet that little Johnny was literally crying after last night's game.

The funny thing is they have no argument unless they tug on Superman's cape.

Pure desperation.

[Spurs m8]

Imagine being so desperate that you have to go back 20 years to try to make your hero look not as bad. :lol

I'd bet that little Johnny was literally crying after last night's game.

Bron is literally hurting these guys mentally, it's not healthy.

[j3lademaster]

Rallying a team that started 2-8 in the first 10 games to the 2nd seed is teaching young players how to not give up and builds winning character in the long run. Too bad the Wizards had no talent outside of a young Rip Hamilton. Jordan also proceeded to play on one knee and tanked his stats.

Wizards Jordan was still a beast, he just wasn't Michael Jordan anymore.

[Full Court]

Rallying a team that started 2-8 in the first 10 games to the 2nd seed is teaching young players how to not give up and builds winning character in the long run. Too bad the Wizards had no talent outside of a young Rip Hamilton. Jordan also proceeded to play on one knee and tanked his stats.

Wizards Jordan was still a beast, he just wasn't Michael Jordan anymore.

And I haven't heard anyone try to argue that Jordan was one of the best in the league when he was on the Wizards,



but he sure wasn't a team cancer like some other people....

[Cyrus334]

Remember when Lebron said "Not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6" and proceeded to get only 2 rings while including the biggest meltdown in Finals history and also a gentleman sweep by a record margin?

Remember when Lebron said that playoff mode is activated and proceeded to miss the playoffs?

Remember when Lebron said a "Thunderstorm" is coming and then get knocked out in Round 1 while visibly quiting on his team?

Remember when Lebron said keep that same energy about my team when it "begins" and now it looks like they might miss the playoffs?

But you wanna clown Jordan :biggums:

[Full Court]

Remember when Lebron said "Not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6" and proceeded to get only 2 rings while including the biggest meltdown in Finals history and also a gentleman sweep by a record margin?

Remember when Lebron said that playoff mode is activated and proceeded to miss the playoffs?

Remember when Lebron said a "Thunderstorm" is coming and then get knocked out in Round 1 while visibly quiting on his team?

Remember when Lebron said keep that same energy about my team when it "begins" and now it looks like they might miss the playoffs?

But you wanna clown Jordan :biggums:

OP just REEKS of desperation.

[Dagoods]

RIP Hamilton became a legend in Detroit thanks to MJ!
TY LUE became a superb coach thanks to MJ!

[WhiteKyrie]

Umm, hate to break it to you but a 38-39 overweight Yoda Jordan after 3 years of rust and atrophy and after his comeback trail was derailed with broken ribs, had already surpassed the teams previous win total.

And he came down as an old man to help a PUTRID 19-63 team the year prior. Averaging 26/5/5, only player besides prime Kobe, and had a 19 win Wizard team clearly on pace for the playoffs.

Meanwhile LeBron at a much younger age with a much younger and talented supporting cast couldn’t even get the 2019 Lakers into the playoff picture.

One plays defense and has the DNA of a warrior. A winner. The other? A matador on defense, a terrible leader, and the genetics of a total coward.

[Full Court]

Umm, hate to break it to you but a 38-39 Yoda Jordan after 3 years of rust and atrophy and after his comeback trail was derailed with broken ribs. An old overweight Jordan before his knee injury had already surpassed the teams previous win total. And he came down as an old man to help a 19-63 team the year prior. Averaging 26/5/5, only player besides prime Kobe, and had a 19 win Wizard team clearly on pace for the playoffs.

Sounds to me like he was teaching them how to win.

[WhiteKyrie]

Sounds to me like he was teaching them how to win.

I mean if you were around to see it, that’s exactly what was happening.

[WhiteKyrie]

RIP Hamilton became a legend in Detroit thanks to MJ!
TY LUE became a superb coach thanks to MJ!
Oh yea MJ groomed Ty Lue, who ultimately with Kyrie Irving’s hell got LeBron his cover up of cowardice hometown ring. Man MJ breeded winning the world over.

[ImKobe]

He won more games in half the season than the Wiz did all year in '01 and they were 7 - 15 without him in '02.

[AlternativeAcc.]

He won more games in half the season than the Wiz did all year in '01 and they were 7 - 15 without him in '02.

**** you Pucci boy

[WhiteKyrie]

**** you Pucci boy

When you got nothing left …

[PP34Deuce]

Jordan 2001 and lebron are too diff.

40 and 37 for athletes are diff. 37 year old Jordan still had juice athletically...

[TheCorporation]

I have to agree with this.

Altho Wade redeemed himself slightly by grudgingly accepting the beta role in subsequent years, his petty and selfish sabotage over not being the alpha was a tremendous black eye for the league. I think that episode takes the cake.

MJ’s tenure with the Wizards was embarrassing more in a laughing stock kind of way, while Wade’s sabotage was more of a shameful humiliation.

+1

[Spurs m8]

When you got nothing left …

:roll:

[Johnny32]

Jordan 2001 and lebron are too diff.

40 and 37 for athletes are diff. 37 year old Jordan still had juice athletically...

mj was 38 when he came back not 40 lol.

[WhiteKyrie]

mj was 38 when he came back not 40 lol.

And was 39 by mid season. And the next year was 39-40.

[Johnny32]

And was 39 by mid season. And the next year was 39-40.

38. nothing you desperately type can change this fact.

[WhiteKyrie]

38. nothing you desperately type can change this fact.

LeBron is 37. And Jordan’s bday is in Feb around All Star. He was 38 and 39 years old in the 2002 season. This is facts. Only one scrambling and making shit up here is you, my dude.

[Johnny32]

Jordan 2001 and lebron are too diff.

40 and 37 for athletes are diff. 37 year old Jordan still had juice athletically...

one last time for the slow kid's licking windows on the short buss...he was 38