Bird > lebron (based on precedent)

[Dagoods]

LeBron got owned by DIRK (who happens to be White, Slow, and possesses little to no athleticism) in 2011!
DIRK is the reason why people with a functioning brain will never consider LeBron the GOAT!
You may not like it but you know it's true!

LUKA blew him out of the water yesternight and he too happens to be white, slow, and possesses little to no athleticism. LUKA put him out of his misery...that was shameful!

LARRY LEGEND was 10x better than Dirk and Luka put together...so yeah I think it's crystal clear that he too would dominate LeBron. WHY? Because alike the aforementioned caucasians, BIRD was also white, slow, and possessed little to no athleticism.

Why does LeBron fear/struggle with white people (the weakest race there is)?

What say you?
your thoughts...your thoughts...

[1987_Lakers]

Is it safe to say Bird OWNED MJ?

I mean just look at the '87-'88 stretch where they matched up 10 times in the season and once in the playoffs. Both were healthy and MVP caliber players so no excuses for either player...


11/14/86
Bird - 37/10/5 (13/25 shooting)
Jordan - 48/5/1 (17/33 shooting)

Celtics win, I'd say it's a wash though.

01/02/87
Bird - 37/8/9 (61.1%)
Jordan - 34/8/3 (41.9%)

Celtics win, Bird easily wins the matchup. Highlights of the game here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=3ChmRhlFzk0&feature=emb_title
. As you can see Jordan made a pitiful attempt at guarding him.

27/01/87
Bird - 24/14/3 (39%)
Jordan - 30/6/4 (38%)

Celtics win. Wash.

28/01/87
Bird - 26/5/9 (65%)
Jordan - 27/4/4 (48%)
Celtics win. Bird wins matchup.

27/03/87
Bird - 41/7/7 (58.6%)
Jordan - 22/7/7 (39.1%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup.

17/04/87
Bird - 38/8/7 (59%)
Jordan - 17/4/8 (33%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup.

12/01/88
Bird - 38/9/8 (58%)
Jordan - 42/4/6 (53%)

Celtics win. Bird wins matchup.

18/03/88
Bird - 19/10/6
Jordan - 50/9/5

Bulls win. Jordan finally wins head to head.

20/03/88
Bird - 33/7/8 (67%)
Jordan - 26/4/7 (56%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup. Highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp0NMFf9Dkg&feature=emb_title

21/04/88
Bird - 44/10/3 (65.5%)
Jordan - 39/3/8 (51.5%)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdMjK-60H-k

Celtics win. Bird wins matchup *yawn*


Bird's record in this stretch? 9-1 while outperforming him in nearly every game. What makes this worse? Bird made Jordan look like a child when Jordan tried to guard him. Meanwhile the possessions I saw Bird guard Jordan, he defended him quite well (definitly wasn't gambling for steals to leave him open in the post).

Moreover, Jordan is 0-6 in the playoffs including this disaster in '87: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RVMJSCTj5Y (Jordan makes 0 shots in the 4th quarter...Bulls had a 7 point lead with 11 minutes left...but Bird showed up when it mattered while Jordan was no where to be seen)

Kind of makes Jordan's '88 MVP come off as even more of a joke, no? Not that I really care but all you really hear about is the 63 points.

[Dagoods]

JORDAN faced one of the best teams in NBA history all by himself.
LeBron had formed a SUPER TEAM, one that got beat by a one man show.
The Lakers had 3 of the TOP 75 ballers of all-time on the court yesterday and got owned by Luka...

[1987_Lakers]

JORDAN faced one of the best teams in NBA history all by himself.
LeBron had formed a SUPER TEAM, one that got beat by a one man show.
The Lakers had 3 of the TOP 75 ballers of all-time on the court yesterday and got owned by Luka...

You're telling me Bird still outplayed MJ statistically despite MJ having the ball more in his hands?

:oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RVMJSCTj5Y

This right here is no excuse. A playoff game with Boston missing McHale. Bulls with a 7 point lead with 11 minutes left in the game.

Bird proceeds to take over the 4th quarter while MJ hits 0 shots. Bulls lose and their season is over.

Just imagine if ISH was around then to see this.

:oldlol:

[Bawkish]

There's no shame for an NBA ATG schooling a young uprising star

However, it's different when you're on prime and getting embarrassed by a 3rd stringer

[Airupthere]

Barea and terry :oldlol:

[999Guy]

Bird is not a better athlete than Luka.


Luka’s actually got elite athletic traits in a massive body.

https://twitter.com/p3sportscience/status/1067923822416785409?s=21

[WhiteKyrie]

LeBron got owned by DIRK (who happens to be White, Slow, and possesses little to no athleticism) in 2011!
DIRK is the reason why people with a functioning brain will never consider LeBron the GOAT!
You may not like it but you know it's true!

LUKA blew him out of the water yesternight and he too happens to be white, slow, and possesses little to no athleticism. LUKA put him out of his misery...that was shameful!

LARRY LEGEND was 10x better than Dirk and Luka put together...so yeah I think it's crystal clear that he too would dominate LeBron. WHY? Because alike the aforementioned caucasians, BIRD was also white, slow, and possessed little to no athleticism.

Why does LeBron fear/struggle with white people (the weakest race there is)?

What say you?
your thoughts...your thoughts...

Solid reasoning TBH

[Round Mound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RVMJSCTj5Y

This right here is no excuse. A playoff game with Boston missing McHale. Bulls with a 7 point lead with 11 minutes left in the game.

Bird proceeds to take over the 4th quarter while MJ hits 0 shots. Bulls lose and their season is over.

Just imagine if ISH was around then to see this.

:oldlol:

Check out the reactions of the towel boy after each of Bird's 4th quarter daggers. :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

LeBron got owned by DIRK (who happens to be White, Slow, and possesses little to no athleticism) in 2011!
DIRK is the reason why people with a functioning brain will never consider LeBron the GOAT!
You may not like it but you know it's true!

LUKA blew him out of the water yesternight and he too happens to be white, slow, and possesses little to no athleticism. LUKA put him out of his misery...that was shameful!

LARRY LEGEND was 10x better than Dirk and Luka put together...so yeah I think it's crystal clear that he too would dominate LeBron. WHY? Because alike the aforementioned caucasians, BIRD was also white, slow, and possessed little to no athleticism.

Why does LeBron fear/struggle with white people (the weakest race there is)?

What say you?
your thoughts...your thoughts...

You are an stupid idiot.

[Johnny32]

Is it safe to say Bird OWNED MJ?

I mean just look at the '87-'88 stretch where they matched up 10 times in the season and once in the playoffs. Both were healthy and MVP caliber players so no excuses for either player...


11/14/86
Bird - 37/10/5 (13/25 shooting)
Jordan - 48/5/1 (17/33 shooting)

Celtics win, I'd say it's a wash though.

01/02/87
Bird - 37/8/9 (61.1%)
Jordan - 34/8/3 (41.9%)

Celtics win, Bird easily wins the matchup. Highlights of the game here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=3ChmRhlFzk0&feature=emb_title
. As you can see Jordan made a pitiful attempt at guarding him.

27/01/87
Bird - 24/14/3 (39%)
Jordan - 30/6/4 (38%)

Celtics win. Wash.

28/01/87
Bird - 26/5/9 (65%)
Jordan - 27/4/4 (48%)
Celtics win. Bird wins matchup.

27/03/87
Bird - 41/7/7 (58.6%)
Jordan - 22/7/7 (39.1%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup.

17/04/87
Bird - 38/8/7 (59%)
Jordan - 17/4/8 (33%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup.

12/01/88
Bird - 38/9/8 (58%)
Jordan - 42/4/6 (53%)

Celtics win. Bird wins matchup.

18/03/88
Bird - 19/10/6
Jordan - 50/9/5

Bulls win. Jordan finally wins head to head.

20/03/88
Bird - 33/7/8 (67%)
Jordan - 26/4/7 (56%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup. Highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp0NMFf9Dkg&feature=emb_title

21/04/88
Bird - 44/10/3 (65.5%)
Jordan - 39/3/8 (51.5%)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdMjK-60H-k

Celtics win. Bird wins matchup *yawn*


Bird's record in this stretch? 9-1 while outperforming him in nearly every game. What makes this worse? Bird made Jordan look like a child when Jordan tried to guard him. Meanwhile the possessions I saw Bird guard Jordan, he defended him quite well (definitly wasn't gambling for steals to leave him open in the post).

Moreover, Jordan is 0-6 in the playoffs including this disaster in '87: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RVMJSCTj5Y (Jordan makes 0 shots in the 4th quarter...Bulls had a 7 point lead with 11 minutes left...but Bird showed up when it mattered while Jordan was no where to be seen)

Kind of makes Jordan's '88 MVP come off as even more of a joke, no? Not that I really care but all you really hear about is the 63 points.

LeREKT.

[ImKobe]

LeREKT.

Are you really this naive?

The Lebron stan clearly leaves out games, the Bulls & Celtics played way more times than the few that he cherry-picked out. There's a reason he only focused on that stretch and not games from other seasons where MJ outplayed Bird H2H

MJ's rookie season

Bulls win 107 - 104 @Boston
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198503060BOS.html

MJ: 33/7/3 5 stls 2 blocks 13/28 FG
Bird: 25/9/10 4 stls 1 block 11/24 FG

quite even statistically but MJ's team pulls out the win so he gets the nod

Bulls win 110 - 85 at home
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198412220CHI.html

MJ: 32/12/8 3 blocks 12/18 FG
Bird: 10/7/4 3/14 FG

Bulls lose 106 - 110 at home
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198502050CHI.html

MJ: 41/12/7 4 stls 1 block 14/25 FG
Bird: 27/9/7 1 stl 3 blocks 9/21 FG

Celtics win but MJ had the better game

There are more of these from other seasons so I'm not going to point out every single one but the fact that it took me a minute to find 3 examples where Jordan outplayed Bird in his rookie year alone tells you this clown should not be taken seriously at all.

[kawhileonard2]

LeBron got owned by DIRK (who happens to be White, Slow, and possesses little to no athleticism) in 2011!
DIRK is the reason why people with a functioning brain will never consider LeBron the GOAT!
You may not like it but you know it's true!

LUKA blew him out of the water yesternight and he too happens to be white, slow, and possesses little to no athleticism. LUKA put him out of his misery...that was shameful!

LARRY LEGEND was 10x better than Dirk and Luka put together...so yeah I think it's crystal clear that he too would dominate LeBron. WHY? Because alike the aforementioned caucasians, BIRD was also white, slow, and possessed little to no athleticism.

Why does LeBron fear/struggle with white people (the weakest race there is)?

What say you?
your thoughts...your thoughts...

Dirk is actually German.

[Full Court]

Is it safe to say Bird OWNED MJ?

I mean just look at the '87-'88 stretch where they matched up 10 times in the season and once in the playoffs. Both were healthy and MVP caliber players so no excuses for either player...


11/14/86
Bird - 37/10/5 (13/25 shooting)
Jordan - 48/5/1 (17/33 shooting)

Celtics win, I'd say it's a wash though.

01/02/87
Bird - 37/8/9 (61.1%)
Jordan - 34/8/3 (41.9%)

Celtics win, Bird easily wins the matchup. Highlights of the game here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=3ChmRhlFzk0&feature=emb_title
. As you can see Jordan made a pitiful attempt at guarding him.

27/01/87
Bird - 24/14/3 (39%)
Jordan - 30/6/4 (38%)

Celtics win. Wash.

28/01/87
Bird - 26/5/9 (65%)
Jordan - 27/4/4 (48%)
Celtics win. Bird wins matchup.

27/03/87
Bird - 41/7/7 (58.6%)
Jordan - 22/7/7 (39.1%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup.

17/04/87
Bird - 38/8/7 (59%)
Jordan - 17/4/8 (33%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup.

12/01/88
Bird - 38/9/8 (58%)
Jordan - 42/4/6 (53%)

Celtics win. Bird wins matchup.

18/03/88
Bird - 19/10/6
Jordan - 50/9/5

Bulls win. Jordan finally wins head to head.

20/03/88
Bird - 33/7/8 (67%)
Jordan - 26/4/7 (56%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup. Highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp0NMFf9Dkg&feature=emb_title

21/04/88
Bird - 44/10/3 (65.5%)
Jordan - 39/3/8 (51.5%)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdMjK-60H-k

Celtics win. Bird wins matchup *yawn*


Bird's record in this stretch? 9-1 while outperforming him in nearly every game. What makes this worse? Bird made Jordan look like a child when Jordan tried to guard him. Meanwhile the possessions I saw Bird guard Jordan, he defended him quite well (definitly wasn't gambling for steals to leave him open in the post).

Moreover, Jordan is 0-6 in the playoffs including this disaster in '87: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RVMJSCTj5Y (Jordan makes 0 shots in the 4th quarter...Bulls had a 7 point lead with 11 minutes left...but Bird showed up when it mattered while Jordan was no where to be seen)

Kind of makes Jordan's '88 MVP come off as even more of a joke, no? Not that I really care but all you really hear about is the 63 points.

In 87-88 Bird was arguably the best player in the world. But then Jordan passed him up and owned the next ten years, so if we're talking about career vs. career, nobody has Bird over Jordan.

[Round Mound]

Bird after 1988 is not really Bird. After that year he was a shell of himself. 1979 to 1988 Bird was the best player in the league.

[2much_knowledge]

You're telling me Bird still outplayed MJ statistically despite MJ having the ball more in his hands?

:oldlol:

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[2much_knowledge]

A bad back is really the only reason this is a debate to be honest