View Full Version : Better performance, 37 year old Brons 56 pts or 37 year old Kobe’s 60 pts
Westbrook_Fan
03-06-2022, 05:25 PM
They both were the same age so it’s a fair comparison
LeBron: 56/10/3 on 61% FG and 55% from 3
Kobe: 60/4/4 on 44% FG and 28% from 3
So kobe took more shots to get 60 in his last game. Interesting.
Westbrook_Fan
03-06-2022, 05:29 PM
So kobe took more shots to get 60 in his last game. Interesting.
Kobe took 50 shots and missed 28 of them lmao
Johnny32
03-06-2022, 05:40 PM
lebron obviously.
AlternativeAcc.
03-06-2022, 05:51 PM
Kobe took 50 shots and missed 28 of them lmao
:roll:
I remember Kobe fans celebrating like he had just won game 7 of the finals. That game topped off the worst regular season in NBA history. Kobe was literally the worst player in the league by a lot.
Guy took 50 ****ing shots :roll:
SATAN
03-06-2022, 05:54 PM
LeBron played better but that Kobe game was pretty epic considering it was his last ever.
That being said, it would have been hilarious if Kobe didn't get hot all of a sudden. Dude would have went like 10-50. :lol
Smook A.
03-06-2022, 05:58 PM
Better performance: LeBron
More memorable: Kobe
End of discussion.
warriorfan
03-06-2022, 06:20 PM
Better performance: LeBron
More memorable: Kobe
End of discussion.
Low iq
I think both were also more iconic than stephen curry's 57-point game against the mavs last year in which the warriors still lost by 2 points.
Full Court
03-06-2022, 06:33 PM
They both were the same age so it’s a fair comparison
LeBron: 56/10/3 on 61% FG and 55% from 3
Kobe: 60/4/4 on 44% FG and 28% from 3
^Dingus
lebron obviously.
^Dingus
:roll:
I remember Kobe fans celebrating like he had just won game 7 of the finals. That game topped off the worst regular season in NBA history. Kobe was literally the worst player in the league by a lot.
Guy took 50 ****ing shots :roll:
^Dingus
LeBron played better but that Kobe game was pretty epic considering it was his last ever.
That being said, it would have been hilarious if Kobe didn't get hot all of a sudden. Dude would have went like 10-50. :lol
^Dingus maximus
I think both were also more iconic than stephen curry's 57-point game against the mavs last year in which the warriors still lost by 2 points.
^Dingus
IllegalD
03-06-2022, 06:36 PM
Kobe's 60 and it's NOT EVEN CLOSE. Kobe's was WAY more iconic, comparable to his 81. 50 years from now people will still remember Kobe's 60 while this will be just another of many great games by LeBron. Kobe's will always be mentioned in the short list of Greatest Final Performance by any athlete in any sport EVER.
Kobe's was in the FINAL GAME of his career, in his 20th season. The game had media attention/presence comparable to an NBA Finals. The stands were filled with every celebrity ever, all of Kobe's ex-teammates and Lakers legends.
The degree of difficulty for Kobe's was greater since he was physically a shell of his former self after 3 consecutive injury-ending seasons. Not to mention he had one of the worst Lakers supporting casts ever.
The only points that LeBron's performance has in his favor are: efficiency, rebounds, and opponent.
The fact that the first thing insecure Bronsexuals do is rush to a message board to bring up a dead player tells you everything you need to know about how triggered they are by Kobe's greatness and that deep down inside they know real NBA ballers pick Kobe over LeBron.
At least Kobe had legitimate excuses for his team being that bad that season, while LeBron's season will go down as one of the most disappointing seasons in LAKERS HISTORY given the pre-season expectations of having a Superteam with 4 Top 75 Players.
:lebronamazed::lebroncry::kobe:
SATAN
03-06-2022, 06:39 PM
He copy and pasted that from another forum.
IllegalD
03-06-2022, 06:44 PM
He copy and pasted that from another forum.
Or I post on both forums, dumbass. Greetings fellow Lakersground f*ggot. I bet you're one of the many Bronsexuals that just joined the forum recently and will depart once your boyfriend goes to play with Bronny.
:hammertime::yaohappy::dancin:djparty
Gohan
03-06-2022, 06:46 PM
Or I post on both forums, dumbass. Greetings fellow Lakersground f*ggot. I bet you're one of the many Bronsexuals that just joined the forum recently and will depart once your boyfriend goes to play with Bronny.
:hammertime::yaohappy::dancin:djparty
dont do it to him, leave him alone, his mom caught him with another mans d1ck in his mouth so he's trying to snitch on anyone he can
Johnny32
03-06-2022, 06:47 PM
Kobe's 60 and it's NOT EVEN CLOSE. Kobe's was WAY more iconic, comparable to his 81. 50 years from now people will still remember Kobe's 60 while this will be just another of many great games by LeBron. Kobe's will always be mentioned in the short list of Greatest Final Performance by any athlete in any sport EVER.
Kobe's was in the FINAL GAME of his career, in his 20th season. The game had media attention/presence comparable to an NBA Finals. The stands were filled with every celebrity ever, all of Kobe's ex-teammates and Lakers legends.
The degree of difficulty for Kobe's was greater since he was physically a shell of his former self after 3 consecutive injury-ending seasons. Not to mention he had one of the worst Lakers supporting casts ever.
The only points that LeBron's performance has in his favor are: efficiency, rebounds, and opponent.
The fact that the first thing insecure Bronsexuals do is rush to a message board to bring up a dead player tells you everything you need to know about how triggered they are by Kobe's greatness and that deep down inside they know real NBA ballers pick Kobe over LeBron.
At least Kobe had legitimate excuses for his team being that bad that season, while LeBron's season will go down as one of the most disappointing seasons in LAKERS HISTORY given the pre-season expectations of having a Superteam with 4 Top 75 Players.
:lebronamazed::lebroncry::kobe:
it's not up for debate, sry. 22-50 from the field is pathetic.
Kobe's 60 and it's NOT EVEN CLOSE. Kobe's was WAY more iconic, comparable to his 81. 50 years from now people will still remember Kobe's 60 while this will be just another of many great games by LeBron. Kobe's will always be mentioned in the short list of Greatest Final Performance by any athlete in any sport EVER.
Kobe's was in the FINAL GAME of his career, in his 20th season. The game had media attention/presence comparable to an NBA Finals. The stands were filled with every celebrity ever, all of Kobe's ex-teammates and Lakers legends.
The degree of difficulty for Kobe's was greater since he was physically a shell of his former self after 3 consecutive injury-ending seasons. Not to mention he had one of the worst Lakers supporting casts ever.
The only points that LeBron's performance has in his favor are: efficiency, rebounds, and opponent.
The fact that the first thing insecure Bronsexuals do is rush to a message board to bring up a dead player tells you everything you need to know about how triggered they are by Kobe's greatness and that deep down inside they know real NBA ballers pick Kobe over LeBron.
At least Kobe had legitimate excuses for his team being that bad that season, while LeBron's season will go down as one of the most disappointing seasons in LAKERS HISTORY given the pre-season expectations of having a Superteam with 4 Top 75 Players.
:lebronamazed::lebroncry::kobe:
AirBosnia, is that you?
^Dingus
^Dingus
^Dingus
^Dingus maximus
^Dingus
Overwhelming damage control at its finest. Get a life, kiddo.
PeroAntic
03-06-2022, 07:00 PM
Kobe by far. His performance was the craziest display of willpower i have seen. He literally surpassed the limits of his own body. It was surreal how he willed the team to victory in that game.
Lestains are absolutely pathetic for trying to milk even this from Lebron's game last night. get your heads examined, absolutely pathetic, you really reached a new low.
SATAN
03-06-2022, 07:14 PM
Or I post on both forums, dumbass. Greetings fellow Lakersground f*ggot. I bet you're one of the many Bronsexuals that just joined the forum recently and will depart once your boyfriend goes to play with Bronny.
:hammertime::yaohappy::dancin:djparty
I only lurk there sometimes. And yes I will probably stop if he leaves. I haven't supported a team since Seattle disbanded. Didn't see much point after that.
Say hello to AirTupac for us. :lol
TheGoatest
03-06-2022, 07:39 PM
Kobe took 50 shots and missed 28 of them lmao
Kobe tied his own record (which he set in a game from around 2001, I believe) for most field goals missed in a single game that game. Even in Wilt's game when he scored 100 on 63 shots, Wilt missed 27 shots.
NBAGOAT
03-06-2022, 07:41 PM
It’s Kobe’s 60, iconic and he was literally on his last legs.
Jasper
03-06-2022, 08:38 PM
Bron's win had meaning ... Kobe was just a Hollywood exhibition
Hey Yo
03-06-2022, 08:44 PM
Kobe took 50 shots and missed 28 of them lmao
That's 2fga shy of his personal record of 30 missed fga
Hey Yo
03-06-2022, 08:49 PM
Kobe tied his own record (which he set in a game from around 2001, I believe) for most field goals missed in a single game that game. Even in Wilt's game when he scored 100 on 63 shots, Wilt missed 27 shots.
It was against Boston.... he went 17-47 from the field.
Full Court
03-06-2022, 10:43 PM
Overwhelming damage control at its finest. Get a life, kiddo.
I'm just trying to cure you of being a snowflake. It takes some time, but my method usually works.
Trust me, it's for your own good.
Ya dingus.
Baller789
03-06-2022, 11:13 PM
I'm just trying to cure you of being a snowflake. It takes some time, but my method usually works.
Trust me, it's for your own good.
Ya dingus.
That end got me fr :oldlol:
I'm just trying to cure you of being a snowflake. It takes some time, but my method usually works.
Trust me, it's for your own good.
Ya dingus.
Troll will always troll, retard. Take a look at yourself.
kawhileonard2
03-07-2022, 12:02 AM
Kobe's for sure.
Johnny32
03-07-2022, 12:06 AM
It was against Boston.... he went 17-47 from the field.
lol such a disgusting low iq chucker.
4 of 10
le ESPNHYPE james
Full Court
03-07-2022, 07:55 AM
Troll will always troll, retard. Take a look at yourself.
You sound triggered.
Ya dingus.
You sound triggered.
Ya dingus.
If i'm a dingus then you are an ignoramus. :oldlol:
Johnny32
03-07-2022, 08:46 AM
lebron 19-31 from the field, 6-11 from 3pt.
kobe 22-50 from the field, 6-21 from 3pt.
lol so bad.
TheCorporation
03-07-2022, 10:44 AM
Kobe took 50 shots and missed 28 of them lmao
https://i.postimg.cc/4dsJmyLN/leonardo-dicaprio-wolf-of-wall-street-sunglasses.jpg
PeroAntic
03-07-2022, 11:38 AM
Brain stains think better field goal percentage is what makes their guy's game better. their understanding of the game begins and ends with field goal percentage. you people are a joke.
Johnny32
03-07-2022, 12:01 PM
Brain stains think better field goal percentage is what makes their guy's game better. their understanding of the game begins and ends with field goal percentage. you people are a joke.
The only joke here is you. The jazz defense was so bad there's been articles questioning if they let kobe score. Lebron's game actually mattered for both teams. And yes the efficiency in how they scored is night and day. Your argument for the chucker is summed up in a few words..."plz wuv my kobe."
ImKobe
03-07-2022, 12:56 PM
The only joke here is you. The jazz defense was so bad there's been articles questioning if they let kobe score. Lebron's game actually mattered for both teams. And yes the efficiency in how they scored is night and day. Your argument for the chucker is summed up in a few words..."plz wuv my kobe."
So the Warriors haven't been playing .500 ball without Draymond, who's their best defensive player & their point guard on offense? Klay looks washed on D as well, Bran hunted him on switches and their team doesn't have any size.
Bran fans are acting like he won the championship when he had a quiet 56 that most people don't really care all that much about.
HoopsNY
03-07-2022, 01:04 PM
LeBron's 56 points is more impressive, but only slightly. Kobe came off of an achilles injury. The two situations aren't really comparable.
AlternativeAcc.
03-07-2022, 01:07 PM
LeBron's 56 points is more impressive, but only slightly. Kobe came off of an achilles injury. The two situations aren't really comparable.
KD came off an achilles and was dropping 50 in the playoffs against elite D, on great efficiency.
Kobe dropped 60 on 50 shots, on a 17 win lottery team. In a meaningless pity game. Shut the **** up lmao.
Kobe doesn't get a pass for being brittle. Nor does Bird or any other player. Durability matters. And so does production. He was the worst player in the league that season because he was always overrated as a player and lacked the skill to overcome his athletic shortcomings. Guys like Durant and LeBron, who have multifaceted games can overcome such things. Not Kobe.
HoopsNY
03-07-2022, 01:10 PM
KD came off an achilles and was dropping 50 in the playoffs against elite D, on great efficiency.
Kobe dropped 60 on 50 shots, on a 17 win lottery team. In a meaningless pity game. Shut the **** up lmao.
Listen limp dick. Grow up for once. Your parents will be happy.
Just because KD came off of it well doesn't mean every player would. It affects players differently and Kobe obviously wasn't the same player. You can't compare a healthy LeBron to someone like Kobe who obviously wasn't the same player.
As I said before, LeBron's performance is more impressive. Now stfu and go back to class you imbecile.
k0kakw0rld
03-07-2022, 01:12 PM
50 shots attempts to score 60 LMAAOOO
AlternativeAcc.
03-07-2022, 01:15 PM
Listen limp dick. Grow up for once. Your parents will be happy.
Just because KD came off of it well doesn't mean every player would. It affects players differently and Kobe obviously wasn't the same player. You can't compare a healthy LeBron to someone like Kobe who obviously wasn't the same player.
As I said before, LeBron's performance is more impressive. Now stfu and go back to class you imbecile.
Nobody is really comparing them though. Kobe was like a 22 on 35% player with zero playmaking and defense. LeBron is leading the league in scoring on great efficiency while being his teams main playmaker. He's in the playoff hunt, Kobe wasn't sniffing 20 wins.
Trust me, nobody is comparing them. Same age, different production.
Your argument is basically LeBrons game was only slightly more impressive because he's the much better player. Ok... but the question was which game was better.... and it's LeBrons by literally a country mile. You're bringing up irrelevant info to justify Kobe's overrated game in relation to LeBron's brilliant game. Sad
HoopsNY
03-07-2022, 02:01 PM
Nobody is really comparing them though. Kobe was like a 22 on 35% player with zero playmaking and defense. LeBron is leading the league in scoring on great efficiency while being his teams main playmaker. He's in the playoff hunt, Kobe wasn't sniffing 20 wins.
Trust me, nobody is comparing them. Same age, different production.
Your argument is basically LeBrons game was only slightly more impressive because he's the much better player. Ok... but the question was which game was better.... and it's LeBrons by literally a country mile. You're bringing up irrelevant info to justify Kobe's overrated game in relation to LeBron's brilliant game. Sad
Your problem is you're isolating the game irrespective of context. Put it this way, remove LeBron from the situation.
Kobe was shooting 35% prior to that game. He took 50 shots and shot 44%, 9 percentage points above his season average. In addition, it's much more difficult to sustain a higher field goal percentage as you take more shots.
The game was iconic given that it was his last game but also because of how obviously incapable he was due to career ending injuries. THAT is why scoring 60 points is impressive. Not everything is about LeBron. And I already said that LeBron's performance IS more impressive.
Johnny32
03-07-2022, 02:05 PM
They have an emotional attachment to kobe's final game. Obviously it will be remembered more but probably every 50+ game this season was better than that embarrassing display of inefficient chucking.
PeroAntic
03-07-2022, 02:27 PM
They have an emotional attachment to kobe's final game. Obviously it will be remembered more but probably every 50+ game this season was better than that embarrassing display of inefficient chucking.
44 percent from the field is not by any means embarassing display of inefficient chucking. Kobe had an out of body experience, and it was the most Kobe way to leave the game that can possibly be imagined. I watched the game live and the atmosphere was like nothing I ever seen. Nobody even cared the Warriors beat the win record.
Not a single basketball fan outside of Lestains would say Lebron's game was greater, because there are things like context and emotion, not just efficiency. but you people have such insecurity and inferiority complexes that the moment Lebron scored 56 you rushed to demean Kobe's legendary bow out. Honestly its a new low.
Hey Yo
03-07-2022, 02:33 PM
Jazz were eliminated from the playoffs just prior to tipoff. They had nothing to play for which led to the All-star game defense they played.
AlternativeAcc.
03-07-2022, 04:21 PM
Your problem is you're isolating the game irrespective of context. Put it this way, remove LeBron from the situation.
Kobe was shooting 35% prior to that game. He took 50 shots and shot 44%, 9 percentage points above his season average. In addition, it's much more difficult to sustain a higher field goal percentage as you take more shots.
The game was iconic given that it was his last game but also because of how obviously incapable he was due to career ending injuries. THAT is why scoring 60 points is impressive. Not everything is about LeBron. And I already said that LeBron's performance IS more impressive.
So your argument is essentially "relativism and shit".
So let's compare a role player who scored 25 and compare it to an all star who scored 50. Because of relativism, its a fun debate right?
:facepalm
The context of YOUR OPINION about Kobes health is irrelevant to the discussion about which performance was better at the age of 37. You still can't comprehend that.
Airupthere
03-07-2022, 04:34 PM
Lebron was the biggest guy on the floor and you can't be physical with him. Either he flops or gets away with offensive fouls and travelling. He played an easy game where he wasn't really being guarded that is why he can pick his spots and snipe whenever he is comfortable. He also took the ball for the ft in the last seconds even though he wasn't the best ft shooter.
Your problem is you're isolating the game irrespective of context. Put it this way, remove LeBron from the situation.
Kobe was shooting 35% prior to that game. He took 50 shots and shot 44%, 9 percentage points above his season average. In addition, it's much more difficult to sustain a higher field goal percentage as you take more shots.
The game was iconic given that it was his last game but also because of how obviously incapable he was due to career ending injuries. THAT is why scoring 60 points is impressive. Not everything is about LeBron. And I already said that LeBron's performance IS more impressive.
Good post and I agree with this
AlternativeAcc.
03-07-2022, 04:39 PM
Jazz were eliminated from the playoffs just prior to tipoff. They had nothing to play for which led to the All-star game defense they played.
There's the context that matters.
It was a pity game for Kobe... jazz didn't give a ****.
KD came off an achilles and was dropping 50 in the playoffs against elite D, on great efficiency.
Kobe dropped 60 on 50 shots, on a 17 win lottery team. In a meaningless pity game. Shut the **** up lmao.
Kobe doesn't get a pass for being brittle. Nor does Bird or any other player. Durability matters. And so does production. He was the worst player in the league that season because he was always overrated as a player and lacked the skill to overcome his athletic shortcomings. Guys like Durant and LeBron, who have multifaceted games can overcome such things. Not Kobe.
Lol kobe was actually the one with the 17-win team. Not the other way around. :kobe:
IllegalD
03-07-2022, 05:47 PM
You can tell these insecure Bronsexuals are hurting bad because of the embarrassing Lakers meltdown this season from a team with championship aspirations to barely hanging on to the playoffs (because of rule changes that benefited losing teams).
They literally rushed to demean a dead player the moment LeBron dropped 56. Knowing deep down inside in 30 years no one will remember LeBron's performance while Kobe's 60 will still be talked about like his 81 and Wilt's 100.
I think reality is starting to set in on them that winning championships or even making the playoffs is a thing of the past for LeBron. And all they have to look forward to for the rest of his career is meaningless stat-padding while they continue to make excuses for their boyfriend. Can't wait until LeBron overtakes Kobe for the most missed shots in NBA history, so we can see them flip-flopping once more and doing mental gymnastics after all the slander they threw Kobe's way.
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!!!
Simon baby-boy and his 50 alts all on suicide watch right now.
:lebronamazed::lebroncry::dancin:hammertime::djpar ty
AlternativeAcc.
03-07-2022, 05:55 PM
Lol kobe was actually the one with the 17-win team. Not the other way around. :kobe:
I know, thats what I said... that's what the comma was for
I dont make mistakes axe... my mind is incredibly sharp. I don't make those sorts of mistakes
Westbrook_Fan
03-07-2022, 06:02 PM
You can tell these insecure Bronsexuals are hurting bad because of the embarrassing Lakers meltdown this season from a team with championship aspirations to barely hanging on to the playoffs (because of rule changes that benefited losing teams).
They literally rushed to demean a dead player the moment LeBron dropped 56. Knowing deep down inside in 30 years no one will remember LeBron's performance while Kobe's 60 will still be talked about like his 81 and Wilt's 100.
I think reality is starting to set in on them that winning championships or even making the playoffs is a thing of the past for LeBron. And all they have to look forward to for the rest of his career is meaningless stat-padding while they continue to make excuses for their boyfriend. Can't wait until LeBron overtakes Kobe for the most missed shots in NBA history, so we can see them flip-flopping once more and doing mental gymnastics after all the slander they threw Kobe's way.
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!!!
Simon baby-boy and his 50 alts all on suicide watch right now.
:lebroncry::dancin:hammertime::djparty
Shut the f*ck up loser and try and finish your diploma before you turn 40 :yaohappy:
I know, thats what I said... that's what the comma was for
I dont make mistakes axe... my mind is incredibly sharp. I don't make those sorts of mistakes
Well, you said he did so on a team which is like that. Just pointing it out to avoid confusions.
IllegalD
03-07-2022, 06:36 PM
Shut the f*ck up loser and try and finish your diploma before you turn 40 :yaohappy:
I graduated highschool, undergrad and grad school, numbnnuts.
You're the ****ing Wichita inbred loser who dropped out of highschool because black kids would bully you and stuff you into lockers. Living in a trailer with your postal-woman mom who spends her weekends hooking up with shady casino employees dressed like the Village People indian.
Everyone remembers when you melted down on ISH and posted your most intimate thoughts.
Here's a quick exercise... Take my ONE ISH account, and figure out how many posts I average per day. Then take your 50 ISH accounts and add them all up, and figure out how many times YOU post per day, literally talking to yourself, in defense of a millionaire black man who wouldn't piss on your if he walked by you on the street and you were on fire.
The only way to rack up those impressive posting numbers is to literally be a no-life loser who spends ALL HIS DAY, EVERY DAY, FOR YEARS UPON YEARS on a defunct basketball message board which I'm pretty sure you and your alts make up like 85% of the active posting population.
:lol
Shut the f*ck up loser and try and finish your diploma before you turn 40 :yaohappy:
:roll:
WhiteKyrie
03-07-2022, 07:14 PM
Kobe was crusty and not super mobile by the time he was 37 in 2016.
Coming fresh off a litany of season ending injuries 3 years in a row. 2013 Achilles tear. 2014 just 6 games into the season, knee fracture ending his comeback season. 2015, only 35 games in and the last year I saw him in person, surgery on a shoulder tear (his shooting arm)
He was a shell of himself at 37 in his final season in 2016. A shell of Kobe. You could see it in how stiff he moved. Like someone in their mid to late 40s as opposed to 37.
18 ppg on 36% in only 66 games.
By comparison 40 year old Jordan 20 ppg on 45% in all 82 games.
Or LeBron this year, at his exact same age, 29 ppg on 52%.
Kobe was a warrior. Amazing pain threshold. In all honesty, much like Iverson or Wade, he was quite the injury prone player. His body was much more meek compared to Jordan and LeBron. Who are two of the three greatest physical specimen for pro basketball ever, the other being Wilt. Just genetic freaks.
His career could’ve even better if he had the durability, strength as those genetic freaks.
But all that speaks to his mental strength and unwillingness to let it get the better of him and he still got out there and performed.
So given LeBron’s genetic advantages, Kobe’s 60 in his final game, especially how he played and moved all season, yea it’s more impressive.
LeBron is still very physically capable, which is why the Lakers, especially with all their raw talent, should be among the top in their conference. And not looking at difficulty against arena roommate, Clippers team in a play in tournament just to get in the playoffs.
SATAN
03-07-2022, 07:18 PM
Why are people even arguing about this? LeBron played better. Kobe might have put on a "better performance" in terms of relentlessly chucking for his sentimental fans but he didn't play better.
Westbrook_Fan
03-07-2022, 07:21 PM
Kobe was crusty and not super mobile by the time he was 37 in 2016.
Coming fresh off a litany of season ending injuries 3 years in a row. 2013 Achilles tear. 2014 just 6 games into the season, knee fracture ending his comeback season. 2015, only 35 games in and the last year I saw him in person, surgery on a shoulder tear (his shooting arm)
He was a shell of himself at 37 in his final season in 2016. A shell of Kobe. You could see it in how stiff he moved. Like someone in their mid to late 40s as opposed to 37.
18 ppg on 36% in only 66 games.
By comparison 40 year old Jordan 20 ppg on 45% in all 82 games.
Or LeBron this year, at his exact same age, 29 ppg on 52%.
Kobe was a warrior. Amazing pain threshold. In all honesty, much like Iverson or Wade, he was quite the injury prone player. His body was much more meek compared to Jordan and LeBron. Who are two of the three greatest physical specimen for pro basketball ever, the other being Wilt. Just genetic freaks.
His career could’ve even better if he had the durability, strength as those genetic freaks.
But all that speaks to his mental strength and unwillingness to let it get the better of him and he still got out there and performed.
So given LeBron’s genetic advantages, Kobe’s 60 in his final game, especially how he played and moved all season, yea it’s more impressive.
LeBron is still very physically capable, which is why the Lakers, especially with all their raw talent, should be among the top in their conference. And not looking at difficulty against arena roommate, Clippers team in a play in tournament just to get in the playoffs.
So Kobe gets extra credit because he couldn’t last to his 19th season like LeBron could?
Nice one coach
WhiteKyrie
03-07-2022, 07:44 PM
So Kobe gets extra credit because he couldn’t last to his 19th season like LeBron could?
No, we are talking about context.
LeBron’s game statistically was better, Kobe’s performance took more heart, guts, toughness and was more impressive.
Visually as well, because let’s be real, Kobe’s game is way sexier and aesthetically pleasing.
It’s quite simple. It’s kind of those two boiled down to their absolute essence, even by player comparison.
Don’t ask the question and then get upset at the rationalized answers.
PeroAntic
03-07-2022, 07:53 PM
No, we are talking about context.
LeBron’s game statistically was better, Kobe’s performance took more heart, guts, toughness and was more impressive.
Visually as well, because let’s be real, Kobe’s game is way sexier and aesthetically pleasing.
It’s quite simple. It’s kind of those two boiled down to their absolute essence, even by player comparison.
Don’t ask the question and then get upset at the rationalized answers.
great post :applause::applause::applause: doubt these clowns will understand though
Full Court
03-07-2022, 07:57 PM
If i'm a dingus then you are an ignoramus. :oldlol:
^Confirmed dingus.
SATAN
03-07-2022, 07:59 PM
No, we are talking about context.
LeBron’s game statistically was better, Kobe’s performance took more heart, guts, toughness and was more impressive.
Visually as well, because let’s be real, Kobe’s game is way sexier and aesthetically pleasing.
It’s quite simple. It’s kind of those two boiled down to their absolute essence, even by player comparison.
Don’t ask the question and then get upset at the rationalized answers.
:oldlol:
How does just relentlessly chucking up 50 shots against shit defense take heart, gut, toughness? It's just being an ass at the expense of your teammates.
How is relentlessly chucking up 50 shots against shit defense aesthetically pleasing? It's horrible basketball.
You guys crack me up.
WhiteKyrie
03-07-2022, 08:05 PM
great post :applause::applause::applause: doubt these clowns will understand though
Notice the cowardice of his fans too.
No body was “dinging” LeBron for being more durable. That is the point, he was more blessed. He wasn’t over coming any odds to deliver the amazing stat line. Better body, less injuries, more durable, just more un-earned genetic lottery gifts.
Which is also proof of why it’s so pathetic how the Lakers have performed all year, but I digress.
Kobe’s performance was all skill, craft, heart and will power to achieve MORE than his body at that point COULD and SHOULD allow. That’s the point.
And that’s why it’s more memorable and impressive, even if it was statistically inferior. And that’s the core essence in their respectability and part of the lack of respect as well. If Bron is even slightly hobbled, you know his ass is sitting. Meanwhile Kobe, being a warrior, guts it out even with the circumstances NOT being in his favor.
Difference between a hero and a coward. A bully front runner, or a can’t put him down, and against all odds total bad ass.
SATAN
03-07-2022, 08:14 PM
18 ppg on 36% in only 66 games.
His body was "broken" so those stats are actually good. - Kobe stans
Johnny32
03-07-2022, 08:16 PM
LeBron’s game statistically was better, Kobe’s performance took...plz wuv my kobe
yup.
WhiteKyrie
03-07-2022, 08:17 PM
yup.
Did the post make you cry or something, Simon?
Full Court
03-07-2022, 08:18 PM
His body was "broken" so those stats are actually good. - Kobe stans
"Lebron is old, so that makes his stats better." -Beezleblubber
Johnny32
03-07-2022, 08:19 PM
kobe's gm was better cuz muh feelings. lol they're so embarrassingly pathetic.
PeroAntic
03-07-2022, 08:27 PM
Notice the cowardice of his fans too.
No body was “dinging” LeBron for being more durable. That is the point, he was more blessed. He wasn’t over coming any odds to deliver the amazing stat line. Better body, less injuries, more durable, just more un-earned genetic lottery gifts.
Which is also proof of why it’s so pathetic how the Lakers have performed all year, but I digress.
Kobe’s performance was all skill, craft, heart and will power to achieve MORE than his body at that point COULD and SHOULD allow. That’s the point.
And that’s why it’s more memorable and impressive, even if it was statistically inferior. And that’s the core essence in their respectability and part of the lack of respect as well. If Bron is even slightly hobbled, you know his ass is sitting. Meanwhile Kobe, being a warrior, guts it out even with the circumstances NOT being in his favor.
Difference between a hero and a coward. A bully front runner, or a can’t put him down, and against all odds total bad ass.
100 percent agreed. In a way these two games summarize the difference between the two and what their respective fans want and appreciate in the game. I know which side I'm on here.
PeroAntic
03-07-2022, 08:28 PM
kobe's gm was better cuz muh feelings. lol they're so embarrassingly pathetic.
Basketball and any sports in general is literally about feelings, you retarded loser.
Full Court
03-07-2022, 08:32 PM
Basketball and any sports in general is literally about feelings, you retarded loser.
Exactly. It's about feelings. It's just that the Bronies' feelings are much more fragile than normal peoples'.
WhiteKyrie
03-07-2022, 08:34 PM
100 percent agreed. In a way these two games summarize the difference between the two and what their respective fans want and appreciate in the game. I know which side I'm on here.
Legends in sports live on in peoples hearts and minds.
Cowards never reach that feat. Like how Allen Iverson tried to slay the GIANT that was the 2001 Lakers. The overwhelming favorite, rightfully so, and had that iconic game 1.
And LeBron had his statistically better game but ultimate 2018 Finals Game 1 QUIT job, that will fade into obscurity. Wonder if he might too.
LeBron Stains are primarily dorks that don’t understand the core essence of sports. Competition, adversity, and overcoming odds. Because they never played.
^Confirmed dingus.
Butthurt ignoramus is online again
Johnny32
03-07-2022, 08:58 PM
no one cares how you feel about your fallen charcoaled hero.
56 points on 31 shots >>>>> 60 points on 50 shots.
Indian guy
03-07-2022, 09:03 PM
This isn't really a comparison.
LeBron had better numbers against a far superior opponent in a game that meant something.
Kobe had worse numbers against a far inferior opponent in a game that meant nothing.
And :oldlol: @ the retarded logic of Kobe's game being better because he's the worse player. By that stupid argument any performance by the lesser talented player is more impressive because THEY HAD TO WORK HARDA!!!1 :rolleyes:
WhiteKyrie
03-07-2022, 09:17 PM
no one cares how you feel about your fallen charcoaled hero.
56 points on 31 shots >>>>> 60 points on 50 shots.
First of all, disgustingly insensitive.
Second of all, no one cares about YOUR hero NOW and he’s still alive AND playing :roll: :roll: :roll:
Albeit playing for a losing team as their “leader” when it’s chalk full of MVP caliber talent and HOFers too :oldlol:
First of all, disgustingly insensitive.
Second of all, no one cares about YOUR hero NOW and he’s still alive AND playing :roll: :roll: :roll:
Albeit playing for a losing team as their “leader” when it’s chalk full of MVP caliber talent and HOFers too :oldlol:
'no one cares'..
Yet his haters can't stop sobbing all over the board. Nice try, coach/nigel.
HoopsNY
03-07-2022, 09:39 PM
So your argument is essentially "relativism and shit".
So let's compare a role player who scored 25 and compare it to an all star who scored 50. Because of relativism, its a fun debate right?
:facepalm
The context of YOUR OPINION about Kobes health is irrelevant to the discussion about which performance was better at the age of 37. You still can't comprehend that.
I comprehend it quite well, which is why I've said (three times already), that LeBron's performance was better. But I also believe the two games are not really comparable. Simple as that. And that's something that YOU can't comprehend.
HoopsNY
03-07-2022, 09:44 PM
Kobe was crusty and not super mobile by the time he was 37 in 2016.
Coming fresh off a litany of season ending injuries 3 years in a row. 2013 Achilles tear. 2014 just 6 games into the season, knee fracture ending his comeback season. 2015, only 35 games in and the last year I saw him in person, surgery on a shoulder tear (his shooting arm)
He was a shell of himself at 37 in his final season in 2016. A shell of Kobe. You could see it in how stiff he moved. Like someone in their mid to late 40s as opposed to 37.
18 ppg on 36% in only 66 games.
By comparison 40 year old Jordan 20 ppg on 45% in all 82 games.
Or LeBron this year, at his exact same age, 29 ppg on 52%.
Kobe was a warrior. Amazing pain threshold. In all honesty, much like Iverson or Wade, he was quite the injury prone player. His body was much more meek compared to Jordan and LeBron. Who are two of the three greatest physical specimen for pro basketball ever, the other being Wilt. Just genetic freaks.
His career could’ve even better if he had the durability, strength as those genetic freaks.
But all that speaks to his mental strength and unwillingness to let it get the better of him and he still got out there and performed.
So given LeBron’s genetic advantages, Kobe’s 60 in his final game, especially how he played and moved all season, yea it’s more impressive.
LeBron is still very physically capable, which is why the Lakers, especially with all their raw talent, should be among the top in their conference. And not looking at difficulty against arena roommate, Clippers team in a play in tournament just to get in the playoffs.
This is something these idiot Bran stains don't get. They act as if Kobe's achilles injury was the only injury he had been dealing with. Kobe faced a myriad of career ending injuries that when all combined, severely hampered his ability to play.
For that reason, it was impressive. It wasn't just the fact that it was his last game of his career; it was the fact that he did so being in horrendous physical shape which restricted his athletic and overall player ability.
Johnny32
03-07-2022, 09:54 PM
lebron out with significant knee swelling tonight. what a warrior. the pain threshold and heart it took to drop 56 on 31 shots on that knee is beyond comprehension.
WhiteKyrie
03-07-2022, 09:57 PM
This is something these idiot Bran stains don't get. They act as if Kobe's achilles injury was the only injury he had been dealing with. Kobe faced a myriad of career ending injuries that when all combined, severely hampered his ability to play.
For that reason, it was impressive. It wasn't just the fact that it was his last game of his career; it was the fact that he did so being in horrendous physical shape which restricted his athletic and overall player ability.
IQ spotting. Un-surprising it’s not a LeClown Stain.
Johnny32
03-07-2022, 09:57 PM
https://www.outkick.com/wp-content/uploads/FKn0HjBVIAQgx4--1024x727.jpg
the bad knee he's been playing on for weeks.
LeWarrior.
WhiteKyrie
03-07-2022, 09:59 PM
https://www.outkick.com/wp-content/uploads/FKn0HjBVIAQgx4--1024x727.jpg
the bad knee he's been playing on for weeks.
LeWarrior.
Just like coming off multiple season (in cases career) ending injuries :oldlol:
You Gen Z, Stat Nerd, LeBron Stains are so cringey.
Johnny32
03-07-2022, 10:02 PM
she's too stupid to see when she's getting mocked. no one cares about kobe and his injuries or what lebron's playing through.
56 points on 31 shots > 60 points on 50 shots > your feelings
SATAN
03-07-2022, 10:09 PM
https://www.outkick.com/wp-content/uploads/FKn0HjBVIAQgx4--1024x727.jpg
the bad knee he's been playing on for weeks.
LeWarrior.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkOYLr0SUs8
Baller789
03-07-2022, 10:40 PM
HoopsNY is actually a cool poster.
Anyone who gets triggered by him is obviously a stan or has barely hit puberty.
PeroAntic
03-08-2022, 12:17 AM
This is something these idiot Bran stains don't get. They act as if Kobe's achilles injury was the only injury he had been dealing with. Kobe faced a myriad of career ending injuries that when all combined, severely hampered his ability to play.
For that reason, it was impressive. It wasn't just the fact that it was his last game of his career; it was the fact that he did so being in horrendous physical shape which restricted his athletic and overall player ability.
Why also DRose's 50 point game is also more impressive than Brons despite having less points. Played against Rudy Gobert rim protection (best opposing defender didn't miss the game, driving and scoring on him all night. All while being 60 percent of peak Rose. He overcame and persevered.
interestingly Rose shot 19-31 the same as Lebron the other night. so pretty efficient. and had the game winning basket and then block. def more impressive
AlternativeAcc.
03-08-2022, 01:05 AM
I comprehend it quite well, which is why I've said (three times already), that LeBron's performance was better. But I also believe the two games are not really comparable. Simple as that. And that's something that YOU can't comprehend.
Because Kobe had injuries we can't compare!
Birds career doesn't compare to magics, bird had a bad back! Can't compare.
Bro, we just can't compare. It's not comparable, bro. Ya know?
Johnny32
03-08-2022, 08:16 AM
remember when pippen said kobe fakes injuries to try and be like mj. his fans have been keeping a list of his supposed injuries since he entered the lg to try and glorify his toughness. it's embarrassing.
ImKobe
03-08-2022, 08:29 AM
remember when pippen said kobe fakes injuries to try and be like mj. his fans have been keeping a list of his supposed injuries since he entered the lg to try and glorify his toughness. it's embarrassing.
Which injury did he fake?
HoopsNY
03-08-2022, 09:20 AM
HoopsNY is actually a cool poster.
Anyone who gets triggered by him is obviously a stan or has barely hit puberty.
I appreciate your words. I'm not cool at all. I'm just looking at it from a neutral perspective.
LeBron's performance was obviously better, there's no question about this. But in terms of what is impressive to the public eye, then Kobe gets the nod because he was basically a one legged/one armed player putting up 60 points in his final game of his career.
As White Kyrie mentioned, his performance will be remembered 50 years from now whereas LeBron's 56 point performance will be forgotten.
I appreciate your words. I'm not cool at all. I'm just looking at from a neutral perspective.
LeBron's performance was obviously better, there's no question about this. But in terms of what is impressive to the public eye, then Kobe gets the nod because he was basically a one legged/one armed player putting up 60 points in his final game of his career.
As White Kyrie mentioned, his performance will be remembered 50 years from now whereas LeBron's 56 point performance will be forgotten.
Does this also have to do with the fact that kobe is not on earth anymore? Just wondering.
Johnny32
03-08-2022, 09:28 AM
remember when pippen said kobe fakes injuries to try and be like mj. his fans have been keeping a list of his supposed injuries since he entered the lg to try and glorify his toughness. it's embarrassing.
oh barkley also called kobe out for faking injuries. it seems to be a well known fact in nba circles. he probably picked this up living overseas and playing soccer.
Baller789
03-08-2022, 10:03 AM
I appreciate your words. I'm not cool at all. I'm just looking at from a neutral perspective.
LeBron's performance was obviously better, there's no question about this. But in terms of what is impressive to the public eye, then Kobe gets the nod because he was basically a one legged/one armed player putting up 60 points in his final game of his career.
As White Kyrie mentioned, his performance will be remembered 50 years from now whereas LeBron's 56 point performance will be forgotten.
Nah you good man. I can cleary see that you are one of the few true sensible neutral posters here. :cheers:
Unlike a certain pretentious poster who claims to be neutral but we could all see the stench radiating out like a smelly wet fart.
Kobe's will definately be remembered because it's the last great performance on the last game of a legendary player.
HoopsNY
03-08-2022, 10:11 AM
Does this also have to do with the fact that kobe is not on earth anymore? Just wondering.
I don't think so. 50 years from now, his death won't be a catalyst of remembering his performance. It's just iconic to go out there with that much will power and perform at such a high level the way he did.
Many people remember Isaiah Thomas' 25 pt 4th quarter performance against the Lakers in the '88 finals despite Detroit losing the game and the series. Why? Because he had a sprained ankle, a jammed pinky, poked eye, etc.
People might say well that's an iconic performance coupled with the fact that he played so well in an NBA finals, but we've seen this before despite a player not dominating. Willis Reed played in game 7 of the finals with a thigh injury where he scored only 4 points in 27 minutes.
It wasn't that Reed was so successful in that game, or the fact that the Knicks had even won the series and championship; rather, it was that Reed had the will to win and put himself out there despite the severe injury.
We can downplay Kobe's injuries all we want, but very few players in history dealt with as many as he did while carrying the load that he did.
Johnny32
03-08-2022, 10:15 AM
i rem watching a gm back in the day and kobe was faking a shoulder injury. then he got hot and chucked like 15 fga in the next qtr. lol he was such a disgusting drama queen and his gullible casual fans ate it up.
HoopsNY
03-08-2022, 10:49 AM
i rem watching a gm back in the day and kobe was faking a shoulder injury. then he got hot and chucked like 15 fga in the next qtr. lol he was such a disgusting drama queen and his gullible casual fans ate it up.
Yea, apparently having multiple surgeries like rotator cuff surgeries, knee surgeries (3 I believe), or having a torn achilles tendon are all fake. Bran stans are seriously the worst fans.
Johnny32
03-08-2022, 10:51 AM
remember when pippen said kobe fakes injuries to try and be like mj. his fans have been keeping a list of his supposed injuries since he entered the lg to try and glorify his toughness. it's embarrassing.
lol they're so embarrassing and oblivious to how pathetic it is.
SouBeachTalents
03-08-2022, 11:10 AM
lol they're so embarrassing and oblivious to how pathetic it is.
Forget to switch accounts?
WhiteKyrie
03-08-2022, 11:13 AM
i rem watching a gm back in the day and kobe was faking a shoulder injury. then he got hot and chucked like 15 fga in the next qtr. lol he was such a disgusting drama queen and his gullible casual fans ate it up.
Elbow Gate and quitting mid playoff series? Nothing gets more drama than LeQueen.
Rysio
03-08-2022, 11:14 AM
Kobe wasn't an elite player that season LeBron was so for kobe to go out in his last game like vintage kobe will be a more memorable performance.
Johnny32
03-08-2022, 11:21 AM
Forget to switch accounts?
and dumb as shit. imagine not understanding why i quoted and bolded my old post. lol moron.
Johnny32
03-08-2022, 11:23 AM
Kobe wasn't an elite player that season LeBron was so for kobe to go out in his last game like vintage kobe will be a more memorable performance.
stats and facts > your warm and fuzzy memories of chucke's last gm.
John8204
03-08-2022, 11:31 AM
Kobe's final game was iconic but his last season he averages 17.6 PPG...Lebron is 2nd in the race for the scoring title to Embiid. That's what I'll remember of Lebron from this season.
Baller789
03-08-2022, 12:01 PM
i rem watching a gm back in the day and kobe was faking a shoulder injury. then he got hot and chucked like 15 fga in the next qtr. lol he was such a disgusting drama queen and his gullible casual fans ate it up.
Speaking of fake injuries...
https://i.ibb.co/mHP1jFw/images.jpg (https://ibb.co/YtVYCTM)
:oldlol:
Johnny32
03-08-2022, 12:26 PM
unlike chuckobe, legoat didn't make sure the media knew of every ailment that was bothering him on any given day. clearly an insecure and desperate attempt to change the narrative of him being a silver spoon soft rich kid growing up.
LeBron James reportedly wouldn't have worn a soft cast on his right hand after Game 4 of the NBA Finals if news of the injury hadn't leaked out before he was slated to speak with reporters.
According to USA Today's Sam Amick, it's "unclear if James or his associates would have shared the news at a later time, but there were no plans to pull the curtain back that night."
However, James pivoted and confirmed the news by sporting the cast postgame.
Amick first reported after Game 4 that James suffered a deep bone contusion when he punched a whiteboard in the team's locker room following Game 1.
"I had emotions on [how] the game was taken away from us; I had emotions of [how] you just don't get an opportunity like this on the road versus Golden State to be able to get a Game 1," James said, according to Amick.
According to ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst and Dave McMenamin, James underwent two MRIs, which were "kept quiet to prevent Warriors from knowing" about the injury.
HoopsNY
03-08-2022, 12:31 PM
Speaking of fake injuries...
https://i.ibb.co/mHP1jFw/images.jpg (https://ibb.co/YtVYCTM)
:oldlol:
The irony of a LeBron stan talking about "fake injuries" :lol
Johnny32
03-08-2022, 12:35 PM
LeBron James reportedly wouldn't have worn a soft cast on his right hand after Game 4 of the NBA Finals if news of the injury hadn't leaked out before he was slated to speak with reporters.
According to USA Today's Sam Amick, it's "unclear if James or his associates would have shared the news at a later time, but there were no plans to pull the curtain back that night."
Amick first reported after Game 4 that James suffered a deep bone contusion when he punched a whiteboard in the team's locker room following Game 1.
According to ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst and Dave McMenamin, James underwent two MRIs, which were "kept quiet to prevent Warriors from knowing" about the injury.
see the difference here? one guy did everything in his power to hide the injury for multiple games until the news got leaked. the other guy fakes injuries so he can get praise when he plays through it. lol casual fans are so embarrassingly clueless.
Johnny32
03-08-2022, 12:37 PM
"He's got bruised ribs? Which side? Aww, he's trying to be like Mike," Pippen said, referring to former teammate Michael Jordan's effort in Game 5 of the 1997 NBA Finals against Utah, when he scored 38 points for the Chicago Bulls despite battling food poisoning.
"He wanted to come out and have a heroic performance after saying he had bruised ribs," Pippen said. "It didn't look like he had bruised ribs. He didn't find a shot he didn't like. He wasn't hurt that bad."
Bryant left practice Tuesday before speaking to reporters, but teammate Rick Fox stayed behind and laughed at Pippen's comments. "We're all trying to be like Mike," Fox said, smiling.
lol so pathetic.
Legend248
03-08-2022, 12:39 PM
"He's trying to be like Mike," Pippen told reporters in Los Angeles on Monday. "He wants to have a heroic performance. They said he had bruised ribs. Come on. It didn't look like he had bruised ribs. He didn't find a shot he didn't like."
Bryant left practice Tuesday before speaking to reporters, but teammate Rick Fox stayed behind and laughed at Pippen's comments. "We're all trying to be like Mike," Fox said, smiling.
lol so pathetic.
ok calm down peasant
Johnny32
03-08-2022, 12:44 PM
plz stop destroying my hero, plz
nah. he's a fake tough guy. reminds me of how kd acted on the gsw.
Full Court
03-08-2022, 07:04 PM
How quickly Bronies forget. Wasn't it just a couple games ago that Lebum got booed off the court?
Baller789
03-08-2022, 08:29 PM
LeBron James reportedly wouldn't have worn a soft cast on his right hand after Game 4 of the NBA Finals if news of the injury hadn't leaked out before he was slated to speak with reporters.
According to USA Today's Sam Amick, it's "unclear if James or his associates would have shared the news at a later time, but there were no plans to pull the curtain back that night."
Amick first reported after Game 4 that James suffered a deep bone contusion when he punched a whiteboard in the team's locker room following Game 1.
According to ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst and Dave McMenamin, James underwent two MRIs, which were "kept quiet to prevent Warriors from knowing" about the injury.
see the difference here? one guy did everything in his power to hide the injury for multiple games until the news got leaked. the other guy fakes injuries so he can get praise when he plays through it. lol casual fans are so embarrassingly clueless.
Angry Johnny at it again. :lol
Ddddamage contrrrrollll!
PeroAntic
03-08-2022, 09:01 PM
no one cares how you feel about your fallen charcoaled hero.
56 points on 31 shots >>>>> 60 points on 50 shots.
So Jokic scored 46 points on 22 shots the other day. I guess he shits on Lebron's game.
and yeah I hope you get charcoaled too you dumb pos
Westbrook_Fan
03-09-2022, 04:56 PM
So it seems LeBron was better
Johnny32
03-09-2022, 07:07 PM
Not sure who shit down more throats in this topic...lebron or myself.
kawhileonard2
03-10-2022, 12:42 AM
Kobe's by far.
Mr.GOAT2408
03-10-2022, 08:51 PM
By far Kobe's game, they actually played defense and Kobe himself was trying on defense in that game. Gave it his all
Warriors went small, LeBron was the biggest player for both teams, went against soft handcuffed small ball defense the entire game
Gave up about as many points as he contributed
Wasn't impressive
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