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RRR3
03-13-2022, 10:32 PM
Let's bring back a classic thread.

Spurs m8
03-13-2022, 10:34 PM
I'll kick it off with the #1 all time classic

LeBARRY IS THE GOAT

3ba11
03-13-2022, 10:36 PM
I'll kick it off with the #1 all time classic

LeBARRY IS THE GOAT


1st post slays...


https://c.tenor.com/-h4Vr0o9Q8oAAAAM/bowing-down-praise.gif

Full Court
03-13-2022, 11:48 PM
I'll kick it off with the #1 all time classic

LeBARRY IS THE GOAT

We have a winner, folks. :applause:

Definitely the dumbest thing on this entire forum.

1987_Lakers
03-13-2022, 11:50 PM
Just right now..


Worthy led those Lakers

3ball on Worthy "leading" the Lakers to a title in '87 & '88.

3ba11
03-13-2022, 11:55 PM
Just right now..



3ball on Worthy "leading" the Lakers to a title in '87 & '88.


he was 1st option both years and FMVP in 88' - check the 87' WCF and 88 Finals - Worthy led that team just like AD led the 20' Lakers

SouBeachTalents
03-13-2022, 11:59 PM
he was 1st option and FMVP
That FMVP was totally undeserved and was given to him off the basis of his Game 7 performance. You compare him and Magic the first 6 games, shit was not even close. Ironically Magic won his first FMVP over Kareem under a similar circumstance in 1980.

3ba11
03-14-2022, 12:00 AM
That FMVP was totally undeserved and was given to him off the basis of his Game 7 performance. You compare him and Magic the first 6 games, shit was not even close. Ironically Magic won his first FMVP over Kareem under a similar circumstance in 1980.


Bottom line - Magic only ever got destroyed without Kareem - see 1990 when KJ blew his doors off and upset his 1 seed.... or 91' with MJ

Without Kareem, Magic's ball-dominance let the defense rest, so they had more capacity to go off offensively like KJ and MJ's blowout wins - those were similar to Lebron's blowout losses and upsets in 2014, 2011 or 2009..

Again, if the greatest ball-dominators in history can't win with super-teams (9-10 in the Finals), then ball-dominance is suboptimal

1987_Lakers
03-14-2022, 12:02 AM
he was 1st option both years and FMVP in 88' - check the 87' WCF and 88 Finals - Worthy led that team just like AD led the 20' Lakers

Wait? Why are you ignoring the '87 Finals when they actually played some real competition and Magic outscored Worthy? Doesn't go with your agenda right? :oldlol:

In the '88 Finals, Worthy outscored Magic by ONE point, but Magic was also dishing out 13 apg.

"But Worthy led the Lakers"

:facepalm

SouBeachTalents
03-14-2022, 12:03 AM
Bottom line - Magic only ever got destroyed without Kareem - see 1990 when KJ blew his doors off and upset his 1 seed.... or 91' with MJ

Without Kareem, Magic's ball-dominance let the defense rest, so they had more capacity to go off offensively like KJ and MJ's blowout wins - those were similar to Lebron's blowout losses and upsets in 2014, 2011 or 2009..

Again, if the greatest ball-dominators in history can't win with super-teams (9-10 in the Finals with many upset losses), then ball-dominance is suboptimal
Bottom line - Jordan never had a winning record or won a playoff series without Pippen. You'd think you'd know better than to make an argument like that :lol

Full Court
03-14-2022, 12:06 AM
Bottom line - Jordan never had a winning record or won a playoff series without Pippen. You'd think you'd know better than to make an argument like that :lol

Only in the feeble mind of a Bronie does NOT team hopping make you a lesser player. :roll:

Keep grasping.

SouBeachTalents
03-14-2022, 12:13 AM
Magic was getting upset with 1 seeds while winning MVP (1990) or runner-up MVP (1991)

Otoh, 1-9 is a joke and not a real argument - nearly every young player fails to win any playoff series in their first few years

The fact that Jordan won without another go-to player and low-producers, while Magic and Lebron need tons of go-to and dominant producers help confirms MJ's vast superiority
Well, I'm not about to have this discussion for the 500th time about how, for that era, Pippen was a go to player. And 91-93 Pippen is undoubtedly > Worthy & 2013 Wade.

1987_Lakers
03-14-2022, 12:14 AM
Only in the feeble mind of a Bronie does NOT team hopping make you a lesser player. :roll:

Keep grasping.

Imagine saying this when you have Wilt #3 when he team hopped with Jerry West and Elgin Baylor, only to lose again to Russell.

:roll:

NBAGOAT
03-14-2022, 12:49 AM
Only in the feeble mind of a Bronie does NOT team hopping make you a lesser player. :roll:

Keep grasping.

3ball thinks that makes magic a lesser player so no it's not just bronies :lol

3ba11
03-14-2022, 01:02 AM
:facepalm:

3ba11
03-14-2022, 01:08 AM
Pippen was a go to player for his era





When did Pippen carry a team to the Finals by averaging 26/4/8 on 53% three-point shooting (6 attempts) like Terry Porter did in the 92' WCF?

Every 90's sidekick like Terry Porter has many series where they achieved top level of stats and domination - the only exception is Pippen, whose peak capability was lower than everyone's.

Pippen's best was below every other sidekick's best, so he was closer to a role player and never a threat to dominate like every other sidekick - he's the only sidekick that wasn't a go-to player or threat.. The timeline of his career confirms that he was propped up by the triangle and dynasty chemistry, but otherwise was a 14 ppg dunker that couldn't score.






I'm not about to have this discussion





you CAN'T have the discussion because you're lying



SHAQ:

"Don't make me pull up the scouting report. You wasn't even a factor on the scouting report. It was all about Mike."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2533220-shaquille-oneal-sounds-off-on-scottie-pippen-while-explaining-instagram-feud.amp.html


KENNY SMITH

"MJ is the only guy that never had a teammate that got double-teamed (never had a go-to teammate)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=01m54s


Everyone's best was better than Pippen's...

Every sidekick in the 90's was actually a 1b that led their team in many series with dominant stats...

except Pippen, whose best was below their best (lower peak capability, non-dominant, not a threat to dominate)..

Again - only MJ lacked a go-to teammate - imagine winning 6 chips without a go-to teammate.. that's the GOAT

GOATKawhi_2
03-14-2022, 01:18 AM
Just right now..



3ball on Worthy "leading" the Lakers to a title in '87 & '88.


Worthy was a #1 pick

Kareem was a #1 pick and #1 points when he retired

Magic was definitely the most spoiled rotton player ever. Even more then Duncan and Kobe. (Players that stayed on 1 franchise).

1987_Lakers
03-14-2022, 01:31 AM
Worthy was a #1 pick

Kareem was a #1 pick and #1 points when he retired

Magic was definitely the most spoiled rotton player ever. Even more then Duncan and Kobe. (Players that stayed on 1 franchise).

Kawhi was drafted by a 61 win team with 3 hall of famers.

3ba11
03-14-2022, 01:34 AM
Worthy was a #1 pick

Kareem was a #1 pick and #1 points when he retired

Magic was definitely the most spoiled rotton player ever. Even more then Duncan and Kobe. (Players that stayed on 1 franchise).


Worthy led the Lakers in the 87' Playoffs:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-14-2022/vcjgIc.gif



Worthy carried the Lakers to the 87' Finals by dominating the WCF:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-14-2022/U56RcP.gif



So Worthy led the Lakers in the 87' Playoffs (above) and 88' Playoffs (1st option & FMVP)

Every 90's sidekick like Worthy, Kemp, Penny, Stockton, KJ, or Terry Porter have many series where they achieved top level of stats and domination - the only exception is Pippen, whose peak capability was lower than everyone's.

Pippen's best was below every other sidekick's best and he's the only sidekick that wasn't a threat to dominate or a go-to player.. The timeline of his career confirms that he was propped up by the triangle and dynasty chemistry, but otherwise was a 14 ppg dunker that couldn't score.

So only MJ lacked a go-to teammate - imagine winning 6 chips without a go-to teammate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=01m54s)

WhiteKyrie
03-14-2022, 02:25 AM
Existence is pain

Axe
03-14-2022, 02:46 AM
Kawhi was drafted by a 61 win team with 3 hall of famers.
Not exactly but he was traded there right away, like what happened with kobe way back in 1996. Tho the lakers only had 53 wins during that time.

kentatm
03-14-2022, 03:46 AM
Dumbest things you've seen posted on ISH

"A Dirk Nowitzki led team will never win an NBA title."

~ CJMustard

Full Court
03-14-2022, 07:03 AM
Imagine saying this when you have Wilt #3 when he team hopped with Jerry West and Elgin Baylor, only to lose again to Russell.

:roll:

Imagine thinking that team hopping should get him bumped HIGHER in the rankings. If you Bronies were consistent, that's how it would be....

ArbitraryWater
03-14-2022, 07:04 AM
Reggie Jackson is ass -OP

CelticBaller
03-14-2022, 07:32 AM
Deandre Jordan had the potential to be as good as David Robinson

if you know you know

Phoenix
03-14-2022, 12:09 PM
Oubre> Klay

Giannis is a Pippen level bum

Curry is the most overrated player in history

The kicker is this is all by one person.

ShawkFactory
03-14-2022, 01:55 PM
3ball full of irony on the front page of "Dumbest things you've seen posted".

ArbitraryWater
03-14-2022, 01:59 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?502843-Lebron-has-been-terrible-this-year

Spurs m8
03-14-2022, 02:07 PM
Imagine thinking that team hopping should get him bumped HIGHER in the rankings. If you Bronies were consistent, that's how it would be....

It's weird, isn't it?

Manny98
03-14-2022, 03:30 PM
Royce O'Neal > Mitchell

Jordan is a better shooter than Steph Curry

RRR3
03-15-2022, 02:50 AM
Reggie Jackson is ass -OP
He absolutely is ass this year lmao wtf. He was solid last year tho

RRR3
03-15-2022, 02:51 AM
"A Dirk Nowitzki led team will never win an NBA title."

~ CJMustard
Legendary thread

RRR3
03-31-2022, 03:44 PM
“LeBron isn’t an elite scorer”-snivelball

FultzNationRISE
03-31-2022, 03:46 PM
"A Dirk Nowitzki led team will never win an NBA title."

~ CJMustard


This obviously looks silly in hindsight, but it was not unreasonable or uncommon opinion pre-2011.

GimmeThat
03-31-2022, 03:49 PM
This obviously looks silly in hindsight, but it was not unreasonable or uncommon opinion pre-2011.

Chauncy Billups FMVP says hi

beasted
03-31-2022, 04:26 PM
Rudy Gobert is an MVP candidate

Axe
03-31-2022, 04:54 PM
"Ja morant for mvp"

:kobe:

Manny98
03-31-2022, 05:19 PM
Rudy Gobert is an MVP candidate
:roll:

Clippersfan86
03-31-2022, 07:56 PM
He absolutely is ass this year lmao wtf. He was solid last year tho

He's being asked to carry the load of being a #1 this year. He ideally is a #4 or #5. So he's having to create everything AND do the scoring. Expecting him to play like the 2021 playoffs when he was nowhere near as tired from the season is unrealistic. Kawhi went down, and he stepped up... but he still had PG.

RRR3
04-28-2022, 08:32 AM
“Michael Jordan was never swept. A sweep is 4-0”-3ball

Manny98
04-28-2022, 09:04 AM
“Michael Jordan was never swept. A sweep is 4-0”-3ball
:roll::facepalm

8Ball
04-28-2022, 09:21 AM
“Michael Jordan was never swept. A sweep is 4-0”-3ball

:roll:

Baller789
04-28-2022, 10:30 AM
Dumbest?

Just follow the shooter/westbrook_fan/theCorporation/Elitepower23/+alts made threads.

There's way enough dumbs!t there to make a bacteria feel like Albert Einstein.

hold this L
04-28-2022, 10:34 AM
Dumbest?

Just follow the shooter/westbrook_fan/theCorporation/Elitepower23/+alts made threads.

There's way enough dumbs!t there to make a bacteria feel like Albert Einstein.

Add Kenny & the Kawhi idiot to the list.

Wally450
04-28-2022, 11:23 AM
Practically anything 3ball or Kenny say.

Phoenix
04-28-2022, 12:14 PM
“Michael Jordan was never swept. A sweep is 4-0”-3ball

I was trying to find this thread yesterday JUST to post that quote. A bonafide 3nutball classic :roll:


A sweep is 4-0

so Jordan was never swept...

It's just another mark of perfection for the goat just like 6/6 or never losing as the favorite or always defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load) or never losing with a good team (1 or 2 seed) or with all-star teammate (except migraine yr and baseball yr)... And many more.. A decade of scoring titles (88-98'... yikes - no one dominated scoring over decades like that)

Furthermore, Jordan averaged 44/6/6 on 50% against the Celtics' #1 defense, compared to 36/6/6 on 39% for Durant.

Lol

I mean this is GOLD.

RRR3
04-28-2022, 12:48 PM
I was trying to find this thread yesterday JUST to post that quote. A bonafide 3nutball classic :roll:



I mean this is GOLD.
He’s actually braindead.

tpols
04-28-2022, 02:29 PM
Barkley made a point on TNT the other day that he has never been swept in a 7 game series. It is true its much easier to sweep a 5 game series. All you have to do is win your first 2 home games as the favorite and steal 1 on the road. A 4-0 sweep is much more dominant. It means you had to dominate road and home equally.

RRR3
04-28-2022, 02:55 PM
Barkley made a point on TNT the other day that he has never been swept in a 7 game series. It is true its much easier to sweep a 5 game series. All you have to do is win your first 2 home games as the favorite and steal 1 on the road. A 4-0 sweep is much more dominant. It means you had to dominate road and home equally.
No one is arguing it’s harder to win 4 games than 3 but a 3-0 series is still a sweep.

Axe
05-08-2022, 11:47 AM
:roll::roll::roll:

https://i.ibb.co/t4GbPVm/IMG-20220508-234304.jpg

Ofc he's going to whine in this thread also to show people he's guilty about it.

Full Court
05-08-2022, 12:04 PM
:roll::roll:

https://i.ibb.co/t4GbPVm/IMG-20220508-234304.jpg

Ofc he's going to whine in this thread also to show people he's guilty about it.

Yep, I made a wrong prediction. Congratulations.

The fact that you bring it up again and again just shows that you're a triggered dingus. :confusedshrug:

And I notice you always ignore the prediction that I got spot-on right: No AD, no playoffs. :roll:

Axe
05-08-2022, 12:10 PM
Speaking of bringing up the same thing again and again...

https://i.ibb.co/84y8brf/IMG-20220509-000918.jpg

:kobe:

Full Court
05-08-2022, 01:02 PM
Wow! What a triggered dingus Axe is. :roll:

hold this L
05-08-2022, 01:04 PM
Ja has a similar level supporting cast as Nikola Fatic

But ja dont complain. Ja just THICK like that

For context of just how dumb this guy is:

Jokic's team without Jokic this season: 2-6, 25% win team
Ja's team without Morant this season: 20-5, 80% win team

RRR3
05-08-2022, 04:12 PM
For context of just how dumb this guy is:

Jokic's team without Jokic this season: 2-6, 25% win team
Ja's team without Morant this season: 20-5, 80% win team
This whole thread could be just him kenny and 3ball

Axe
05-08-2022, 04:58 PM
Yep, so guilty and ignorant he could never ignore nor stop spamming the same shit over and over.

8Ball
05-08-2022, 05:14 PM
Speaking of bringing up the same thing again and again...

https://i.ibb.co/84y8brf/IMG-20220509-000918.jpg

:kobe:

:roll:



Everyone has their turn using him like a punching bag.

Full Court
05-08-2022, 05:40 PM
Yep, so guilty and ignorant he could never ignore nor stop spamming the same shit over and over.

:roll:

What a triggered dingus.

Axe
05-08-2022, 05:40 PM
:roll:



Everyone has their turn using him like a punching bag.
:lol

No wonder he's the renowned 2022 ish jizzrag of the year. Still living up to his name ever since the year started.

Full Court
05-08-2022, 05:41 PM
:roll:



Everyone has their turn using him like a punching bag.

As far as the dumbest things on ISH, you've probably got about six of the top ten.

You get destroyed in every thread you make. :lol

Shooter
05-08-2022, 05:53 PM
Oubre> Klay

Giannis is a Pippen level bum

Curry is the most overrated player in history

The kicker is this is all by one person.

This

Shooter
05-08-2022, 05:55 PM
“Michael Jordan was never swept. A sweep is 4-0”-3ball

:roll: A sweep is losing every game and winning zero games

MJ's specialty in the 1st round.

SATAN
05-08-2022, 06:43 PM
"Jarrett Allen is incapable of setting proper screens & play D. Where's Steven Adams?"

8Ball
05-08-2022, 10:52 PM
:lol

No wonder he's the renowned 2022 ish jizzrag of the year. Still living up to his name ever since the year started.

lmfao he is the forum jizz rag.

Full Court
05-09-2022, 06:50 AM
:lol

No wonder he's the renowned 2022 ish jizzrag of the year. Still living up to his name ever since the year started.


lmfao he is the forum jizz rag.

Lol at the Dingus Brothers. A borderline imbecile and a toilet cleaner. I'm guessing you both have deep seated mommy issues, which is why you have such a hatred for Michael Jordan and Ja Morant.

Losers. :lol

RRR3
05-17-2022, 08:15 AM
“Tatum is basically as good as Curry at 3s”-HBK_Brick

Manny98
05-17-2022, 08:32 AM
“Tatum is basically as good as Curry at 3s”-HBK_Brick

What thread?

Phoenix
05-17-2022, 08:41 AM
What thread?


Curry is a supposed GOAT 3 point shooter, Tatum pretty much holds his own when comparing them.

Curry from 2015-present 3 point: 39.8% on 10.8 attempts

Tatum playoffs 2022: 38.6% on 9.2 attempts

About a percent and an attempt difference, while providing 10X higher defensive impact



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?504505-So-who-s-the-best-player-left-Everyone-seems-to-have-Luka-Tatum-or-Butler!

So basically, if someone takes 10 threes a game, hits 40%, over a 11 game sample size.......we can compare this with someone who takes 10 threes a game, hits 40%, over 500 games or whatever.

TDLR; fu*ck sample size.

Wally450
05-19-2022, 10:33 AM
Shaq and MVP Rose with the role players the Lakers had is a guarantee for several rings.

Pretty outlandish thing to say.

j3lademaster
05-19-2022, 10:49 AM
Pretty outlandish thing to say.
I don’t have a problem with that. A healthy prime Derrick Rose with peak Shaq? It’s bot hard to imagine they win a couple, But they probably lose to the Spurs in 01 without Kobe.

I think claiming 11 Rose > 01 Kobe was the outlandish part.

SouBeachTalents
05-19-2022, 11:02 AM
I don’t have a problem with that. A healthy prime Derrick Rose with peak Shaq? It’s bot hard to imagine they win a couple, But they probably lose to the Spurs in 01 without Kobe.

I think claiming 11 Rose > 01 Kobe was the outlandish part.
Of the 3peat years, you choose ‘01 as the year they might not win, not the other two years where they were literally on the cusp of defeat :lol

The margin of victory in the ‘01 WCF was so substantial, there’s just no way you could believe Rose in Kobe’s place changes the result of that series from a blowout sweep to a series loss.

Manny98
05-19-2022, 11:08 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?504505-So-who-s-the-best-player-left-Everyone-seems-to-have-Luka-Tatum-or-Butler!

So basically, if someone takes 10 threes a game, hits 40%, over a 11 game sample size.......we can compare this with someone who takes 10 threes a game, hits 40%, over 500 games or whatever.

TDLR; fu*ck sample size.

I assumed that Kawhi_Why_Not was HBK, I have him on ignore because he spams the most terrible basketball takes.

j3lademaster
05-19-2022, 11:17 AM
Of the 3peat years, you choose ‘01 as the year they might not win, not the other two years where they were literally on the cusp of defeat :lol

The margin of victory in the ‘01 WCF was so substantial, there’s just no way you could believe Rose in Kobe’s place changes the result of that series from a blowout sweep to a series loss.

You’re right, 01 was the dominant almost undefeated playoff run. And i didnt pick the year, the specific discussion was 01 kobe vs 11 rose.

Phoenix
05-19-2022, 11:40 AM
I assumed that Kawhi_Why_Not was HBK, I have him on ignore because he spams the most terrible basketball takes.

Most definitely the same poster.

RRR3
05-19-2022, 06:14 PM
“Rose is known as a playoff performer and was the best 22 year old ever”-PeroAntic

Charlie Sheen
05-19-2022, 06:44 PM
I don’t have a problem with that. A healthy prime Derrick Rose with peak Shaq? It’s bot hard to imagine they win a couple, But they probably lose to the Spurs in 01 without Kobe.

I think claiming 11 Rose > 01 Kobe was the outlandish part.

I'm with Wally on this. Kobe wasn't replaceable with just any MVP level player. I can't see a scenario where Rose doesn't reduce the value of Fisher for example who was an integral piece to those title teams.

j3lademaster
05-19-2022, 07:05 PM
I'm with Wally on this. Kobe wasn't replaceable with just any MVP level player. I can't see a scenario where Rose doesn't reduce the value of Fisher for example who was an integral piece to those title teams.Kobe's definitely the better player, and if you swap Kobe with Rose, the 11 bulls easily get better while the lakers get worse; but you don't think a healthy prime rose wins a few with peak Shaq? Even if it's your opinion they fall short a bit, it's definitely not a silly opinion to hold. Peak Shaq was pretty insane.

Charlie Sheen
05-19-2022, 07:18 PM
Kobe's definitely the better player, and if you swap Kobe with Rose, the 11 bulls easily get better while the lakers get worse; but you don't think a healthy prime rose wins a few with peak Shaq? Even if it's your opinion they fall short a bit, it's definitely not a silly opinion to hold. Peak Shaq was pretty insane.
I don't think Rose gets a few with peak Shaq. Those Lakers didn't just become that team overnight. It was a bumpy ride along the way. I don't have a real great confidence Phil can tailor his system to fit the personnel either.

None of that matters because you are on the money... even if I disagree, it isn't a dumb opinion. :cheers:

PeroAntic
05-19-2022, 07:32 PM
Rose was a force of nature. Sadly people underestimate how good he was then. He was shooting threes better than Kobe. He was clutch. He had a better BPM than Kobe that year. He basically had no weaknesses in his game. Bulls 2011 are not better with 2001 Kobe instead of Rose. He likely plays worse defense than for the Lakers and he isn't as good a playmaker. who is the pointguard of that team? CJ Watson? foh.

Prime Kobe (2006, 2007, 2008) is better than prime Rose. But not 2001 Kobe.

RRR3
05-19-2022, 08:00 PM
Rose was a force of nature. Sadly people underestimate how good he was then. He was shooting threes better than Kobe. He was clutch. He had a better BPM than Kobe that year. He basically had no weaknesses in his game. Bulls 2011 are not better with 2001 Kobe instead of Rose. He likely plays worse defense than for the Lakers and he isn't as good a playmaker. who is the pointguard of that team? CJ Watson? foh.

Prime Kobe (2006, 2007, 2008) is better than prime Rose. But not 2001 Kobe.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Manny98
05-19-2022, 08:04 PM
Rose was a force of nature. Sadly people underestimate how good he was then. He was shooting threes better than Kobe. He was clutch. He had a better BPM than Kobe that year. He basically had no weaknesses in his game. Bulls 2011 are not better with 2001 Kobe instead of Rose. He likely plays worse defense than for the Lakers and he isn't as good a playmaker. who is the pointguard of that team? CJ Watson? foh.

Prime Kobe (2006, 2007, 2008) is better than prime Rose. But not 2001 Kobe.

Jesus :oldlol:

Taurus
05-20-2022, 03:01 AM
Was prime Rose even better than Luka is currently?

Maybe it's recency bias, but I would honestly take current Luka easily over prime Rose.

Phoenix
05-20-2022, 04:27 AM
Was prime Rose even better than Luka is currently?

Maybe it's recency bias, but I would honestly take current Luka easily over prime Rose.

No. People are looking at Luka as a generational talent. That poster is a hardware stan, it's noble, but Geesus Krist I think if you asked who's better 2011 Rose or 86 Bird, 87 Magic, 91 MJ, 2000 Shaq, 13 Bron, 16 Curry, 17 KD, 20 Giannis, 22 Jokic, he'd find a way to say Rose was on that level.

Sulico
05-20-2022, 04:39 AM
Nothing made me laugh more than "Organic Chip" takes from this board's crazy MJ fan. Makes me hungry every time.

Phoenix
05-20-2022, 05:25 AM
Nothing made me laugh more than "Organic Chip" takes from this board's crazy MJ fan. Makes me hungry every time.

https://mysupply.me/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/c687aa7517cf01e65c009f6943c2b1e9/r/b/rb_foods_organic_potato_chips_with_sea_salt_100g.j pg

ArbitraryWater
05-20-2022, 06:04 AM
Rose was a force of nature. Sadly people underestimate how good he was then. He was shooting threes better than Kobe. He was clutch. He had a better BPM than Kobe that year. He basically had no weaknesses in his game. Bulls 2011 are not better with 2001 Kobe instead of Rose. He likely plays worse defense than for the Lakers and he isn't as good a playmaker. who is the pointguard of that team? CJ Watson? foh.

Prime Kobe (2006, 2007, 2008) is better than prime Rose. But not 2001 Kobe.

My god.

ArbitraryWater
05-20-2022, 06:06 AM
Does this man not realize Rose was complete garbage in the playoffs?

He shot 39.6% and 24.8% from 3 lmao. He had an eFG% of 43%. TS below 50%.

5/29 on 3's first 4 games. I remember one of his makes was a lucky banker, too.

PeroAntic
05-20-2022, 06:17 AM
No. People are looking at Luka as a generational talent. That poster is a hardware stan, it's noble, but Geesus Krist I think if you asked who's better 2011 Rose or 86 Bird, 87 Magic, 91 MJ, 2000 Shaq, 13 Bron, 16 Curry, 17 KD, 20 Giannis, 22 Jokic, he'd find a way to say Rose was on that level.

I can go on the record to say that 2011 Rose is not better than any one of the examples listed...


...BUT, if he didn't get injured.... :D

PeroAntic
05-20-2022, 06:20 AM
Does this man not realize Rose was complete garbage in the playoffs?

He shot 39.6% and 24.8% from 3 lmao. He had an eFG% of 43%. TS below 50%.

5/29 on 3's first 4 games. I remember one of his makes was a lucky banker, too.

You don't remember shit, thats the problem. That banker was in 2015.

In 2011 Rose got swarmed by Lebron's superteam and Thibs got outcoached as usual, by Spoelstra. If we go by one series, Durant this year was worse. Overall ability and the stuff he pulled off that season was just insane, you'd need to be a tool or to have literally no memory to not recognize tht.

Phoenix
05-20-2022, 06:59 AM
I can go on the record to say that 2011 Rose is not better than any one of the examples listed...


...BUT, if he didn't get injured.... :D

There's hope.

As far as not getting injured he may have continued to improve, or he may have maxed out early. His style and skillset would have needed to evolve to remain an MVP level player once he aged out of that hyper explosion.

No, I'm not interested in irrelevant back and forth speculation as to the 'what ifs' on that with someone as deeply invested in him as you are.

RRR3
07-07-2022, 09:46 PM
Steppedonshit comparing Curry to MJ defensively: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?505675-MJ-is-a-better-scorer-than-Curry-and-it-isn%92t-particularly-close