Jason Williams with a surprising Kobe ranking.

[Kblaze8855]

I couldn’t find a topic on it and it’s about time for me to toss some chum into the ISH waters to generate some discussion so…..


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[Kblaze8855]

There are some who say that entire disrespectful line of thinking stems from this moment:


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But who can say. He got Kobe a couple times too.

[LAL]

White liberal ghetto kid who always was a big Lebron James supporter.

Not even top 5 Laker, that's cute.

[Cold soul]

Jason Williams is a god damn idiot his opinion means little to nothing. He’s still prolly still mad and salty about all those years the Lakers were beating the Kings over and over again in the playoffs in the early 2000’s.

[hateraid]

White liberal ghetto kid who always was a big Lebron James supporter.

Not even top 5 Laker, that's cute.

Who says he even thinks Lebron is? Lol

Leave it to the groupies to bring g Lebron up

[hateraid]

Jason Williams is a god damn idiot his opinion means little to nothing. He’s still prolly still mad and salty about all those years the Lakers were beating the Kings over and over again in the playoffs in the early 2000’s.

When he wasn't on the Kings? Sure, lol

[Shogon]

Kobe isn't one of the 5 best players to ever dawn a Lakers jersey.

But his career as a Lakers player specifically is probably unmatched.

LeBron, Shaq, Wilt, Kareem, Magic... so tell me... who is Kobe better than out of those guys? None. That's the answer. But 20 years with one franchise goes a long way...

Really depends on how you want to look at it.

Because clearly none of them other than maybe Magic had as good of cumulative years while playing for the Lakers as Kobe did.

[Cold soul]

When he wasn't on the Kings? Sure, lol

Huh?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Arguably better total careers than Bryant: Wilt, Shaq, Magic, Kareem, James, West. But if we only include their time as a Laker That list shrinks to Magic, Kareem, and West and that's with the word "arguable." None of them had inarguably better Laker careers and Magic is the only one I would say was definitely ahead.

[Cold soul]

Arguably better total careers than Bryant: Wilt, Shaq, Magic, Kareem, James, West. But if we only include their time as a Laker That list shrinks to Magic, Kareem, and West and that's with the word "arguable." None of them had inarguably better Laker careers and Magic is the only one I would say was definitely ahead.

I think Kobe and Magic are 1A and 1B there’s not a huge difference between the two having the title as being the greatest Laker ever.

[hateraid]

Huh?

He was traded for Bibby long before those series lol.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I think Kobe and Magic are 1A and 1B there’s not a huge difference between the two having the title as being the greatest Laker ever.
Well there are a lot more MVP awards on Magic's side but Bryant was a better defender.

[ArbitraryWater]

Jason Williams is a god damn idiot his opinion means little to nothing. He’s still prolly still mad and salty about all those years the Lakers were beating the Kings over and over again in the playoffs in the early 2000’s.


You can't honestly be so bothered by his opinion that you're throwing a fit and insulting a guy you don't know anything about.

Take a step back and realize how ****ing embarrassing you are.

[StrongLurk]

Top ten all time lists can swing anyway after the top three: MJ, Lebron, Kareem.

I like to include Wilt 4th...but 5-10? Kobe could be anywhere.

[ArbitraryWater]

White liberal ghetto kid who always was a big Lebron James supporter.

Not even top 5 Laker, that's cute.

You gotta love the defensiveness and sensitivities of Kobe stans.


Immediately go into insult mode.

[tpols]

Jason Williams probably has an extra chromosome or two. Not the guy to be listening to tbh. Look at the size of his forehead... his frontal lobe looks underdeveloped.

[FultzNationRISE]

Jason Williams probably has an extra chromosome or two. Not the guy to be listening to tbh. Look at the size of his forehead... his frontal lobe looks underdeveloped.

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Kobe was pretty smart.

So I'm not sure foreheads are the best indicator for these things.

[LAL]

Who says he even thinks Lebron is? Lol

Leave it to the groupies to bring g Lebron up

Because he said it himself idiot.

[fsvr54]

Kobe isn't one of the 5 best players to ever dawn a Lakers jersey.

But his career as a Lakers player specifically is probably unmatched.

LeBron, Shaq, Wilt, Kareem, Magic... so tell me... who is Kobe better than out of those guys? None. That's the answer. But 20 years with one franchise goes a long way...

Really depends on how you want to look at it.

Because clearly none of them other than maybe Magic had as good of cumulative years while playing for the Lakers as Kobe did.

Kobe is without doubt better than Lebron

[Shogon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UluxHZJdXRk

Yes, yes. I know.

[PeroAntic]

Its just being salty from the years of the rivalry. Nothing to see here. you failed op:lol

[plowking]

Kobe is most certainly a top 5 all time Laker.

Unless J-Will is viewing it as players that played for the Lakers... But, top 5, or top of a certain team means what you accomplished with that team.

Otherwise you have Wilt, KAJ, Shaq, Bron and Magic, so I get his point there.

[Axe]

3ball in suicide watch

[Cold soul]

Well there are a lot more MVP awards on Magic's side but Bryant was a better defender.

You can blame Eagle, Colorado for that Kobe should've won MVP's in 06 and 07. I understand the league not wanting Kobe to be the face of the league during that time frame with everything that was going on with Kobe involving controversy Kobe was always hated when comes to the national media. The league never promoted him like MJ or Lebron.

[Cold soul]

You can't honestly be so bothered by his opinion that you're throwing a fit and insulting a guy you don't know anything about.

Take a step back and realize how ****ing embarrassing you are.

This is classic coming from the loser low life that has 42k post since 2014. :oldlol:

Get a life man!

[John8204]

Kobe is one of the greatest Lakers of all-time but on an all-time list, he is the sixth Laker on the list

2. Wilt Chamberlain (Laker)
3. Lebron James (Laker)
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Laker)
7. Magic Johnson (Laker)
8. George Mikan (Laker)

[HoopsNY]

Does Wilt deserve to be ahead of Kobe as a Laker? He played 4 seasons with LA, averaging 17 PPG. He won no MVPs during that time, was All-NBA once, and All-Defensive 2/4 years, and won 1 title.

I wouldn't put him above Kobe given the body of work that Kobe had for such a long time, all being with LA.

[Johnny32]

Kobe is without doubt better than Lebron

at literally nothing besides shooting fts.

[iamgine]

Maybe he means not top 5 all time best Lakers, in which case it's much more reasonable. I'd say almost all the great Lakers are better than Kobe.

Greatness includes the time you spent with the organization so Kobe's definitely top 5 in this area. Might even be #1.

[HoopsNY]

Maybe he means not top 5 all time best Lakers, in which case it's much more reasonable. I'd say almost all the great Lakers are better than Kobe.

Greatness includes the time you spent with the organization so Kobe's definitely top 5 in this area. Might even be #1.

I can understand Shaq, Magic, Kareem, and Jerry West, but who else?

[GimmeThat]

what's so surprising about ranking a dead man low

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

If he means peaks then hes right west, magic, wilt, Kareem, shaq LeBron all have a case.

If he means lakers career then no. Kobe has the best lakers career other then maybe magic johnson

[Johnny32]

Maybe he means not top 5 all time best Lakers, in which case it's much more reasonable. I'd say almost all the great Lakers are better than Kobe.

Greatness includes the time you spent with the organization so Kobe's definitely top 5 in this area. Might even be #1.

"I wasn’t talking about the greatest LAKER ever… because of course that’s Kobe!!! Kobe IS the Lakers!!! 💛💜 But in what I was saying, I was thinking about WILT, KAREEM, MAGIC, SHAQ, LEBRON… (That’s my top 5 players who ever played in a Laker jersey *in no particular order* in case y’all wondering!)… those players who—in my opinion—were/are better than KOBE!! That's just my opinion! Doesn't mean I’m saying it’s a fact!!"

[Cold soul]

Maybe he means not top 5 all time best Lakers, in which case it's much more reasonable. I'd say almost all the great Lakers are better than Kobe.

Greatness includes the time you spent with the organization so Kobe's definitely top 5 in this area. Might even be #1.

I think Kobe makes the top 5 for best Lakers to ever play for that franchise the only players you can say for sure that are above Kobe are Kareem, Magic, and Lebron outside of that it’s debatable.

[John8204]

Does Wilt deserve to be ahead of Kobe as a Laker? He played 4 seasons with LA, averaging 17 PPG. He won no MVPs during that time, was All-NBA once, and All-Defensive 2/4 years, and won 1 title.

I wouldn't put him above Kobe given the body of work that Kobe had for such a long time, all being with LA.

Yeah that's the point, Wilt and Lebron are better players than Kobe but Kobe is a better Laker.

People putting Shaq in the top five is a little iffy to me as well....

Kobe, West, Mikan, KAJ, Magic

[Soundwave]

I'd take 25-27 year old Kobe over current version LeBron or later in his career Laker Wilt if I'm being honest. Those guys don't have higher peaks as a Laker, Kobe would win a title with AD as well, maybe more than one at that.

That's putting aside even the whole "Kobe's entire Laker career" thing.

26 year old Kobe would average 34-35 ppg in this era of weaker defence on a higher shooting percentage.

[iamgine]

I can understand Shaq, Magic, Kareem, and Jerry West, but who else?

Well just list all the Lakers greats and you get the answer.

[jayfan]

Kobe isn't one of the 5 best players to ever dawn a Lakers jersey.

But his career as a Lakers player specifically is probably unmatched.

LeBron, Shaq, Wilt, Kareem, Magic... so tell me... who is Kobe better than out of those guys? None. That's the answer. But 20 years with one franchise goes a long way...

Really depends on how you want to look at it.

Because clearly none of them other than maybe Magic had as good of cumulative years while playing for the Lakers as Kobe did.


No one cares about best to ever wear the jersey. It's meaningless. Shaq was the 2nd greatest player to ever wear a Cavs jersey, but he's nowhere on the list of all-time great Cavs. All that matters is what you did while playing for the team in question.


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[Johnny32]

Remember when kobe fans thought he was going to be the goat. Now they're desperately clinging to some embarrassing "best player on x team" narrative to try and make his career seem greater and less disappointing in the end. Sad.

[HoopsNY]

Well just list all the Lakers greats and you get the answer.

Mikan, Baylor, Wilt, LeBron? I don't think any of those guys qualify to be above Kobe as a Laker.

[FKAri]

Mikan, Baylor, Wilt, LeBron? I don't think any of those guys qualify to be above Kobe as a Laker.

I think the rationale is that JWill means in the sense of greatest players who have been Lakers. Otherwise it makes no sense. Imo, Kobe's would be top 5 either way.

[ImKobe]

Remember when kobe fans thought he was going to be the goat. Now they're desperately clinging to some embarrassing "best player on x team" narrative to try and make his career seem greater and less disappointing in the end. Sad.

Kobe's the greatest player for the greatest franchise in NBA history. Bran's 1 Mickey Mouse ring doesn't move the needle, sorry.

[MadDog]

Easily a Top 5 Laker. With that franchise, I believe only Magic & Kareem have an argument.

[Axe]

Kobe's the greatest player for the greatest franchise in NBA history. Bran's 1 Mickey Mouse ring doesn't move the needle, sorry.
But, shaq's three finals mvps do count tho right?

[ImKobe]

But, shaq's three finals mvps do count tho right?

Kobe has 5 rings as a Laker and played 20 years in LA.. Kobe, Kareem and Magic are the 3 GOAT Laker players.

[SATAN]

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[OrlandoMagicGuy]

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