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jstern
03-18-2022, 02:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH5fnlurq-w

My interest in this video is less about the Ukrainian conflict, and more about finding yourself in a living hell due to innocence. For people like Bladef and other CNN watchers, do not volunteer to go fight in a war that doesn't concern you, because of "Good vs Evil" reasons. Especially if the good has Nazis that refer to the ones fighting along them who are not Nazis as LGBT. You will be sent to the front of the line, immediately.

https://images2.imgbox.com/09/49/DjMDj6Sn_o.png

FultzNationRISE
03-18-2022, 03:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH5fnlurq-w

My interest in this video is less about the Ukrainian conflict, and more about finding yourself in a living hell due to innocence. For people like Bladef and other CNN watchers, do not volunteer to go fight in a war that doesn't concern you, because of "Good vs Evil" reasons. Especially if the good has Nazis that refer to the ones fighting along them who are not Nazis as LGBT. You will be sent to the front of the line, immediately.



I disagree.

Please, by all means, go ahead.

Lakers Legend#32
03-18-2022, 05:13 PM
Putin still has bounties on American soldiers because Trump told him it was no big deal.

jstern
03-19-2022, 02:52 AM
I disagree.

Please, by all means, go ahead.

I don't want Blade to get killed, but you're right. It won't really make a dent, but humanity is better off the less these people inject their genes into the gene pool. These people who just blindly follow what the media tells them are very dangerous people, because they're so useful for those who just need a small portion of the population to go along with an agenda. They're going to end up getting all of us killed. And that's a VERY real possibility.

GimmeThat
03-19-2022, 04:00 AM
I don't want Blade to get killed, but you're right. It won't really make a dent, but humanity is better off the less these people inject their genes into the gene pool. These people who just blindly follow what the media tells them are very dangerous people, because they're so useful for those who just need a small portion of the population to go along with an agenda. They're going to end up getting all of us killed. And that's a VERY real possibility.

the reality is that the education/schooling system failed miserably, because it's called 'public school' yet it only required children beyond the age of when basic social skills needs to be taught to attend.

so prior to blaming the media, it's most certainly the policy makers that needs to be blamed.

but it's true, people who do not deserve to have an opinion is indeed going to get us killed. but then America is built on the idea that "we just need a small portion of the population to go along with an agenda".

I guess this is a pretty good reminder that George Washington didn't take down the British Empire.

it's more like a dude who lived in one of the bedroom owned by the landlord, then took over it. only somehow got exponential credit for building apartments on top of that bedroom.

which turned America into the nation of immigration and all its glory.


must have been some type of vaxine policy that prevented Washington to play in the home floor of the Brits.

Spurs m8
03-19-2022, 05:04 AM
Putin still has bounties on American soldiers because Trump told him it was no big deal.

Wtf are you yodelling on about?

Axe
03-19-2022, 05:51 AM
Wtf are you yodelling on about?
This fool must be sent to ukraine in order to serve as one of their frontlines.

Chick Stern
03-19-2022, 05:46 PM
“American volunteer soldier”
Isn’t that a mercenary?

FultzNationRISE
03-19-2022, 06:03 PM
“American volunteer soldier”
Isn’t that a mercenary?

Mercenaries by definition fight in exchange for pay.

A volunteer by definition does something without condition of payment.

Chick Stern
03-19-2022, 08:32 PM
Mercenaries by definition fight in exchange for pay.

A volunteer by definition does something without condition of payment.
Apparently there is some good black market payments to be had.

Nanners
03-24-2022, 01:10 AM
Apparently there is some good black market payments to be had.

Yep, they just need to join AZOV and they will get a regular paycheck from the CIA/Mossad

jstern
04-19-2022, 06:59 PM
MSNBC analyst Malcolm Nance leaves network to fight in Ukraine


An MSNBC commentator has reportedly left the network to join an international legion fighting on the side of Ukraine as it seeks to repel a Russian invasion.

Malcolm Nance, the former naval intelligence officer who has served as an on-air analyst at the Comcast-owned cable network since 2007, appeared on Monday’s episode of Joy Reid’s nightly show “The ReidOut” wearing military fatigues and combat gear.

Nance also appeared while carrying what appeared to be a Kalashnikov assault rifle.

He told Reid on Monday that he has joined the International Legion of Territorial Defense in Ukraine.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/19/msnbc-analyst-malcolm-nance-heads-to-ukraine-to-fight-russia/

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2022129/malcolm-nance-military.jpg

Lakers Legend#32
04-20-2022, 12:54 AM
Marjoire Taylor Greene said anyone who joins the military is wasting their lives.

Keep supporting the troops GQP.

jstern
05-01-2022, 10:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeoSpF0pVkc

It's very evil. Extending death and destruction in a war just so that Joe Biden could gift Raytheon tens of billions of tax payer dollars. Gifting Ukraine weapons extending Ukrainian deaths. Urging them to fight until the last Ukrainian, so that Raytheon could rake in more money.

TheMan
05-01-2022, 11:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeoSpF0pVkc

It's very evil. Extending death and destruction in a war just so that Joe Biden could gift Raytheon tens of billions of tax payer dollars. Gifting Ukraine weapons extending Ukrainian deaths. Urging them to fight until the last Ukrainian, so that Raytheon could rake in more money.

So you obviously want Russia to succeed in their illegal invasion of a sovereign nation? What is it with you Trumptards that have a hard on for the maniac Putin and the Russians? Serious question. Me, I would love for the Ruskies get stuck in a long quagmire, see the Russian economy collapse, see the Russian people rise and witness Putin assassinated/arrested/executed...any option that puts that megalomaniac 6 feet under.

jstern
05-01-2022, 10:18 PM
So you obviously want Russia to succeed in their illegal invasion of a sovereign nation? What is it with you Trumptards that have a hard on for the maniac Putin and the Russians? Serious question. Me, I would love for the Ruskies get stuck in a long quagmire, see the Russian economy collapse, see the Russian people rise and witness Putin assassinated/arrested/executed...any option that puts that megalomaniac 6 feet under.

Are you kidding me? This is what you got from my post? Perhaps you're so focused on whatever stereotype that you have of people who like Trump that you couldn't really comprehend the point that I made. Or perhaps you're sooo deep into the narrative that you cannot comprehend the point that I made, or the concept, whether it's wrong or right. (I'm mean just the fact that I didn't say anything pro Russia yet you proceed with this black and white narrative that I want Russia to win and Ukraine to lose.)

The basic concept of my post was that Joe Biden is sending 33 billion dollars more in aid, and more than half of that is going straight to Ratheon. To EXTEND a war that Ukraine has no chance of winning and that is killing thousands of Ukrainians AND Russians. A lot of innocent people are losing their lives in a war that should have been over back in February, so that tax payer money could go directly the military industrial complex, and a select few could benefit greatly. That's what I called extreme evil.

That's just the simplistic version, the main point of my post. But of course everything is much more complicated than that, and that's just one portion of the evil, and a single post, or a day is just not going to do it. So all you're left with is that Putin just randomly decided to invade it's neighbor out of nowhere, leaving everybody completely in shock, astonished, flabbergasted. But even if that's the case, this mother ****er Joe Bidden and the people behind him are urging Ukraine to fight until the last Ukrainian so that they can launder tens of billions of tax payer dollars, among other things.

TheMan
05-03-2022, 10:53 PM
Are you kidding me? This is what you got from my post? Perhaps you're so focused on whatever stereotype that you have of people who like Trump that you couldn't really comprehend the point that I made. Or perhaps you're sooo deep into the narrative that you cannot comprehend the point that I made, or the concept, whether it's wrong or right. (I'm mean just the fact that I didn't say anything pro Russia yet you proceed with this black and white narrative that I want Russia to win and Ukraine to lose.)

The basic concept of my post was that Joe Biden is sending 33 billion dollars more in aid, and more than half of that is going straight to Ratheon. To EXTEND a war that Ukraine has no chance of winning and that is killing thousands of Ukrainians AND Russians. A lot of innocent people are losing their lives in a war that should have been over back in February, so that tax payer money could go directly the military industrial complex, and a select few could benefit greatly. That's what I called extreme evil.

That's just the simplistic version, the main point of my post. But of course everything is much more complicated than that, and that's just one portion of the evil, and a single post, or a day is just not going to do it. So all you're left with is that Putin just randomly decided to invade it's neighbor out of nowhere, leaving everybody completely in shock, astonished, flabbergasted. But even if that's the case, this mother ****er Joe Bidden and the people behind him are urging Ukraine to fight until the last Ukrainian so that they can launder tens of billions of tax payer dollars, among other things.

So you would rather the Ukrainian people roll over like the French did in WWII? It's called being proud of your nation and culture, if an army invaded the US, you wouldn't risk your life to defeat the invading foreigners to defend your national sovereignty? The Ukrainian people are just doing what any other people would do and yes, we along with other allies need to send them weapons and economic aid and whatever else helps them against the invaders.

ZenMaster
05-04-2022, 12:19 AM
So you obviously want Russia to succeed in their illegal invasion of a sovereign nation? What is it with you Trumptards that have a hard on for the maniac Putin and the Russians? Serious question. Me, I would love for the Ruskies get stuck in a long quagmire, see the Russian economy collapse, see the Russian people rise and witness Putin assassinated/arrested/executed...any option that puts that megalomaniac 6 feet under.

Is it because you have some clever distinction that seperates US invasions to the Russian one, that you make sure to call this an ILLEGAL invasion of a sovereign nation? Or is it because the the whole term was etched into your brain?
There is no law in geo politics that make it so you can call one invasion illegal and another legal.

The rest of your post reads exactly like the fan fiction they want you to imagine when supporting the economic war against Russia and use US tax dollars for weapons to Ukraine at the same time, it has a lot of Arab Spring vibes.
Could you imagine if instead of the Russian people rising up to dramatic background music, Russia splits into 10 new countries, each with their own nuclear weapons stockpile?
And what if when Putin is feeling the pressure of all this goodness that you're imagining and somehow gets to fire off some nukes on Europe - "who cares what the world looks like, if there is no Russia in it?" - Would that be worth it to get rid of him in the end?

Would you have considered it as "the American people rising" if someone had exectued Bush during the Iraq war?
How about Obama, Hillary, Joe or one of the EU leaders when they invaded Afghanistan or bombed Libya in unison?

Should Russia, China or any other country at the time have supported Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya with weapons to defend their country against foreign invaders? How about financial support for killing US soldiers?(Remember all the outrage about the Russian bounties stories which turned out to be fake?)

At least someone like the Pope doesn't have a hard on for conflict like you do and wants this to end.


Pope Francis said that NATO “barking” at Russia’s door may have led to Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine — and said he has offered to meet the Russian president in Moscow.

In an interview with the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera, Francis reflected on Russia’s lethal aggression toward its neighbor and said while he might not go as far as saying NATO’s presence in nearby countries “provoked” Moscow, it “perhaps facilitated” the invasion.


There was a fairly simple path that was likely to prevent this - negotiate with Russia about Ukraine becoming a completely neutral country. Western politicians didn't want it, they wanted expansion of the US military industrial complex instead by setting it up to arm Ukraine once it joins NATO, plus all the other possibilites to make money through corruption in Ukraine.

Nanners
05-08-2022, 05:35 AM
So you would rather the Ukrainian people roll over like the French did in WWII? It's called being proud of your nation and culture, if an army invaded the US, you wouldn't risk your life to defeat the invading foreigners to defend your national sovereignty? The Ukrainian people are just doing what any other people would do and yes, we along with other allies need to send them weapons and economic aid and whatever else helps them against the invaders.

The French knew they were defeated and they chose to end the violence rather than sacrificing more of their own people in a futile effort. If the US was in the same situation as Ukraine, being invaded by an army that has overwhelming superiority in every measureable way, an army that has managed to wipe out virtually our entire military in a matter of days, I most definitely would not want the US to pointlessly prolong the war.

The Ukrainian people are not doing what any other people would do, they have no say in the matter. Zelensky is forcing every male age 18-60 into the military, he has banned every political opposition party (including the most popular party in the country - that was outpolling him), he shut down every media outlet in the country that was remotely critical of him and absorbed the rest of them into the Ukrainian state media (under his control)... and the only reason a clown like Zelensky has power in the first place is because the US did a coup in 2014 overthrowing Ukraines democratically elected govt (muh democracy), replacing it with a puppet state...

So yeah, no doubt the young men of Ukraine feel a ton of pride for their ~30 year old nation as they are being conscripted by a CIA puppet to go die pointless deaths in a war where "winning" means they forced their cousins to use enough resources that their economy breaks down.

jstern
05-12-2022, 02:28 AM
The French knew they were defeated and they chose to end the violence rather than sacrificing more of their own people in a futile effort. If the US was in the same situation as Ukraine, being invaded by an army that has overwhelming superiority in every measureable way, an army that has managed to wipe out virtually our entire military in a matter of days, I most definitely would not want the US to pointlessly prolong the war.

The Ukrainian people are not doing what any other people would do, they have no say in the matter. Zelensky is forcing every male age 18-60 into the military, he has banned every political opposition party (including the most popular party in the country - that was outpolling him), he shut down every media outlet in the country that was remotely critical of him and absorbed the rest of them into the Ukrainian state media (under his control)... and the only reason a clown like Zelensky has power in the first place is because the US did a coup in 2014 overthrowing Ukraines democratically elected govt (muh democracy), replacing it with a puppet state...

So yeah, no doubt the young men of Ukraine feel a ton of pride for their ~30 year old nation as they are being conscripted by a CIA puppet to go die pointless deaths in a war where "winning" means they forced their cousins to use enough resources that their economy breaks down.

This was a great summary. Like many people, TheMan is being fed a narrative. A simple good versus evil. And I just couldn't find a simple way of showing him that there are probably hundreds of factors. And a shit ton of corruption.