Lebron is a very underwhelming rebounder

[Walk on Water]

He only averages 7.5 rebounds for his career. He's never averaged 9 rebounds. For a guy his size, that is very underwhelming. He's even playing center this year and he's not getting a lot of rebounds. Lebron is big enough to average 10 rebounds a game, at least some seasons.


I don't get how you can say Lebron is better than Bird. Bird averaged more rebounds, despite being smaller. Lebron doesn't play defense. Lebron has no post up play. Lebron has a horrible assist to turnover ratio, he's basically Russell Westbrook. Lebron does not play both sides of the floor. No wonder he has energy to be the leading scorer this year. He doesn't expend any energy on defense, just stands there. Might get a block once in a while to make the highlight reel.

[TheGoatest]

Higher career finals rpg than Dennis Rodman.
Leaving alts in shambles since 2003. :roll:

[Baller789]

Higher career finals rpg than Dennis Rodman.
Leaving alts in shambles since 2003. :roll:

You leaving yourself in shambles Mr. Constipation? :pimp:

[ShawkFactory]

He only averages 7.5 rebounds for his career. He's never averaged 9 rebounds. For a guy his size, that is very underwhelming. He's even playing center this year and he's not getting a lot of rebounds. Lebron is big enough to average 10 rebounds a game, at least some seasons.


I don't get how you can say Lebron is better than Bird. Bird averaged more rebounds, despite being smaller. Lebron doesn't play defense. Lebron has no post up play. Lebron has a horrible assist to turnover ratio, he's basically Russell Westbrook. Lebron does not play both sides of the floor. No wonder he has energy to be the leading scorer this year. He doesn't expend any energy on defense, just stands there. Might get a block once in a while to make the highlight reel.

He averages exactly 9 for his career in the playoffs. 266 game sample.

10.2 in the finals over 55 games.

[Johnny32]

False. He's won series as a teams leading rebounder. He dominates the paint defensively rebounding in big games. Something jordan couldn't do. Kind of like lebron's offensive role as main scorer and playmaker.

[SouBeachTalents]

He averages exactly 9 for his career in the playoffs. 266 game sample.

10.2 in the finals over 55 games.
Welp, that was a decisive end to the thread :lol

[Baller789]

False. He's won series as a teams leading rebounder. He dominates the paint defensively rebounding in big games. Something jordan couldn't do. Kind of like lebron's offensive role as main scorer and playmaker.

Why are you blabbering about Jordan? This a Bron thread you virgin dork.

BTW, Tim Duncan never missed the playoffs in the stronger West I might add.

How is your boy doing out West?

[8Ball]

He averages exactly 9 for his career in the playoffs. 266 game sample.

10.2 in the finals over 55 games.

LMFAO

Every single time they come at LeBron they get smashed.


LeBron has led his team in rebounding in the playoffs nearly all the time?

[8Ball]

False. He's won series as a teams leading rebounder. He dominates the paint defensively rebounding in big games. Something jordan couldn't do. Kind of like lebron's offensive role as main scorer and playmaker.

Jordan was never able to accomplish something like this:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b3/75/c7/b375c7a409b2c1eaafcf56ef23a110b3--lebron-james-stats-nba-finals-.jpg



Against a 73 win team nonetheless.

[FultzNationRISE]

LeHaters just stay absolute gluttons for punishment.

Incredible.

[Westbrook_Fan]

He’s the best SF rebounder in the playoffs/Finals ever

[FultzNationRISE]

He’s the best SF rebounder in the playoffs/Finals ever

Now wait just a minute.

I already know he’s the best damn playoff scorer in basketball history, period. We all know that.

But are you telling me he’s literally the best rebounder at his position TOO?? The guy who carries the greatest scoring load is also out rebounding everyone at his position EVER???

Well. If that doesnt spell G-O-A-T, then Im just not sure what does.

[Walk on Water]

Jordan was never able to accomplish something like this:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b3/75/c7/b375c7a409b2c1eaafcf56ef23a110b3--lebron-james-stats-nba-finals-.jpg


Against a 73 win team nonetheless.



Dude. Lebron is 4 and 6 in the Finals. This post you just posted means nothing. He's a career loser.

[Walk on Water]

He’s the best SF rebounder in the playoffs/Finals ever



So what? He stat padded and lost 6 times. Never averaged more than 8 in the regular season. Not a good rebounder.

[Walk on Water]

False. He's won series as a teams leading rebounder. He dominates the paint defensively rebounding in big games. Something jordan couldn't do. Kind of like lebron's offensive role as main scorer and playmaker.


Where did that get him? 4 and 6 in the Finals. Not a good rebounder. Not a good post up player either. For a guy his size, why couldn't he at least be a decent rebounder? He never averaged 9 in a season and plays no defense.

[8Ball]

Thread fail.

Bron better passer and rebounder than Jordan.

[Bronbron23]

He only averages 7.5 rebounds for his career. He's never averaged 9 rebounds. For a guy his size, that is very underwhelming. He's even playing center this year and he's not getting a lot of rebounds. Lebron is big enough to average 10 rebounds a game, at least some seasons.


I don't get how you can say Lebron is better than Bird. Bird averaged more rebounds, despite being smaller. Lebron doesn't play defense. Lebron has no post up play. Lebron has a horrible assist to turnover ratio, he's basically Russell Westbrook. Lebron does not play both sides of the floor. No wonder he has energy to be the leading scorer this year. He doesn't expend any energy on defense, just stands there. Might get a block once in a while to make the highlight reel.

Wouldn't say underwhelming but he's not elite or anything. He gets alot of easy uncontested defensive rebs. The true measure for a great rebounder is offensive rebs and he's nothing special in that category. I think even mj who's a gaurd gir more offensive reb per game than bron.

[Johnny32]

You want to talk about team success don't start a topic about an individual players rebounding.

[RogueBorg]

Thread fail.

Bron better passer and rebounder than Jordan.

Not at offensive rebounding he's not. Let me put this another way, Jordan has 1,668 total offensive rebounds from the guard position in 15 years to Lebron's 1,600 in year 19 as the Lakers starting center. Let that sink in. It's going to take Lebron into year 20 to catch Jordan.

[Johnny32]

Lol the casuals are so clueless. There's 6'1 guards who averaged more orpg in the 80s than mj. That's how teams rebounded. That's why transition defense was laughably bad.

[Westbrook_Fan]

Not at offensive rebounding he's not. Let me put this another way, Jordan has 1,668 total offensive rebounds from the guard position in 15 years to Lebron's 1,600 in year 19 as the Lakers starting center. Let that sink in. It's going to take Lebron into year 20 to catch Jordan.


I think LeBron will be just fine retiring with more points and double the rebounds and assists as Jordan :oldlol:


B-But Jordan got more offensive rebounds, is what the Jordan > LeBron argument has devolved into :oldlol:

[Full Court]

Lol the casuals are so clueless. There's 6'1 guards who averaged more orpg in the 80s than mj. That's how teams rebounded. That's why transition defense was laughably bad.

You Bronies just keep demonstrating that you're not very smart. What MJ was REALLY good at was winning. MJ had teammates that got rebounds. Sure, he could have camped out under the basket to collect rebounds and pad stats, but then he would have been Westbrook, and not the GOAT.

[Full Court]

I think LeBron will be just fine retiring with more points and double the rebounds and assists as Jordan :oldlol:


B-But Jordan got more offensive rebounds, is what the Jordan > LeBron argument has devolved into :oldlol:

And still fewer rings and FMVPs :lol

[8Ball]

Not at offensive rebounding he's not. Let me put this another way, Jordan has 1,668 total offensive rebounds from the guard position in 15 years to Lebron's 1,600 in year 19 as the Lakers starting center. Let that sink in. It's going to take Lebron into year 20 to catch Jordan.

LeBron averages more rebounds and leads his teams in rebounding in nearly all playoff rounds.

Jordan has 2 other teammates that are better rebounders.

Thread fail.

[Baller789]

LeBron averages more rebounds and leads his teams in rebounding in nearly all playoff rounds.

Jordan has 2 other teammates that are better rebounders.

Thread fail.

So you expect a two guard to lead the team in rebounds?

[Full Court]

So you expect a two guard to lead the team in rebounds?

If he cared more about stats than winning, I'm sure he could have led the team in rebounds.

There's levels to this game, and Bronie just never could quite reach the top level.

[Baller789]

If he cared more about stats than winning, I'm sure he could have led the team in rebounds.

There's levels to this game, and Bronie just never could quite reach the top level.

Yea it's kinda similar to work. You know when you have a co-worker/boss who's really really good. But then she tends to do everything for everyone?

That actually leads to a weaker work team overall.

[1987_Lakers]

Lol the casuals are so clueless. There's 6'1 guards who averaged more orpg in the 80s than mj. That's how teams rebounded. That's why transition defense was laughably bad.

This is actually a good point.

in 1987, teams were getting an offensive rebound 33% of the time. In 1996 it was at 30%.

Compare that to only 27% in 2012 and 22% in 2018.

That is a huge decrease.

[Walk on Water]

I think LeBron will be just fine retiring with more points and double the rebounds and assists as Jordan :oldlol:


B-But Jordan got more offensive rebounds, is what the Jordan > LeBron argument has devolved into :oldlol:


I think Jordan will be fine averaging more points and accumulating 8 more scoring titles and 4 more All NBA defensive teams and more rings.

Yes the offensive rebounds too is a bonus. Smaller than Lebron yet still got more.

[AussieSteve]

Its because he plays so far from the basket on offense, that he gets almost no offensive boards except on his own missed at rim shot attempts.

Add even 1 offensive board per game for his career and all of a sudden his total rebound numbers are better than the vast majority of ATG SFs in history

[John8204]

He's got 10K...Shaq has 13K I mean who's more underwhelming?

[Baller789]

He's got 10K...Shaq has 13K I mean who's more underwhelming?

Yes because totals.

Gimme a break.

[Baller789]

This is actually a good point.

in 1987, teams were getting an offensive rebound 33% of the time. In 1996 it was at 30%.

Compare that to only 27% in 2012 and 22% in 2018.

That is a huge decrease.

Maybe, just maybe... It has to do with the increase of 3 point shots?

[8Ball]

So you expect a two guard to lead the team in rebounds?

No I don't.

That's one of the reasons why Jordan is an inferior player to LeBron.

LeBron is a superior rebounder.

[Baller789]

No I don't.

That's one of the reasons why Jordan is an inferior player to LeBron.

LeBron is a superior rebounder.

Yes you don't but yes you do?

Amazing logic.

:lol

[8Ball]

Yes you don't but yes you do?

Amazing logic.

:lol

I don't expect a 2 guard to lead his team in rebounds.

Therefore 2 guard is inferior to LeBron at rebounding.

Very simple logic.

I might have to wait another 25 years to lose an argument on this forum.

[FireDavidKahn]

He averages exactly 9 for his career in the playoffs. 266 game sample.

10.2 in the finals over 55 games.

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[Baller789]

I don't expect a 2 guard to lead his team in rebounds.

Therefore 2 guard is inferior to LeBron at rebounding.

Very simple logic.

I might have to wait another 25 years to lose an argument on this forum.

So is Brook Lopez a better rebounder than Jason Kidd?

[Walk on Water]

No I don't.

That's one of the reasons why Jordan is an inferior player to LeBron.

LeBron is a superior rebounder.


That's one of the reasons why Love is superior to Lebron.

Love is a superior rebounder.

[Full Court]

That's one of the reasons why Love is superior to Lebron.

Love is a superior rebounder.

:roll:

I don't even know why 8ball tries.

"I've never lost an argument on here".....meanwhile he's getting toe-tagged and body-bagged yet again. :lol

[8Ball]

That's one of the reasons why Love is superior to Lebron.

Love is a superior rebounder.

Love is a superior rebounder and inferior at everything else.

Meanwhile Bron is superior to Jordan at everything and near equal in scoring and equal defensively.

Walk on water argument fail. Thread fail.

[8Ball]

So is Brook Lopez a better rebounder than Jason Kidd?

Jordan is an inferior rebounder to LeBron and one of the reasons amongst many others why LeBron is better. That is the only relevant discussion topic at hand.

[8Ball]

:roll:

I don't even know why 8ball tries.

"I've never lost an argument on here".....meanwhile he's getting toe-tagged and body-bagged yet again. :lol

False.

I countered his argument using 2 seconds of typing.

[Baller789]

So is Brook Lopez a better rebounder than Jason Kidd?


Jordan is an inferior rebounder to LeBron and one of the reasons amongst many others why LeBron is better. That is the only relevant discussion topic at hand.

I asked about Kidd and Lopez.

You answered with Jordan and James.

No wonder in your mind you don't lose arguments.

You lose by default. :roll:

[8Ball]

This is a LeBron topic.


You can talk all day long about brook lopez or Jason Kidd by yourself.


All the best.

[Baller789]

This is a LeBron topic.


You can talk all day long about brook lopez or Jason Kidd by yourself.


All the best.

Yet when it's a Lebron topic, somehow it's ok to insert Jordan right?

[8Ball]

Yes. LeBron's entire career trajectory was meant to overtake Jordan, which he did in 2020.

It encompasses 80% of this forum's discussion topics.

All LeBron discussions are GOAT debates, nothing else.

[RogueBorg]

Jordan is an inferior rebounder to LeBron and one of the reasons amongst many others why LeBron is better. That is the only relevant discussion topic at hand.

LOL slayed by your own mental gymnastics :roll:

Time to retire this Sean Penn avi for awhile and get on your other.

[Baller789]

Yes. LeBron's entire career trajectory was meant to overtake Jordan, which he did in 2020.

It encompasses 80% of this forum's discussion topics.

All LeBron discussions are GOAT debates, nothing else.

He did? Really?

80% of the population might have missed it.

[Baller789]

LOL slayed by your own mental gymnastics :roll:

Time to retire this Sean Penn avi for awhile and get on your other.

8ball logic:

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[RogueBorg]

8ball logic:

https://i.ibb.co/phPsWdH/gary-tay-boxing.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

Seems spot on :oldlol: :lol

[8Ball]

LOL slayed by your own mental gymnastics :roll:

Time to retire this Sean Penn avi for awhile and get on your other.

Wrong again.

Love is a superior rebounder and inferior at everything else.

Meanwhile Bron is superior to Jordan at near everything and near equal in scoring and equal defensively.


8ball in this thread delivering knock out hits

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[8Ball]

Jordan is an inferior rebounder to LeBron and one of the reasons amongst many others why LeBron is better. That is the only relevant discussion topic at hand.

English isn't your strong point RogueBorg.

[RogueBorg]

English isn't your strong point RogueBorg.

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[8Ball]

Why would I be triggered if I am 100% correct.

[RogueBorg]

Why would I be triggered if I am 100% correct.

You're triggered because Baller789 destroyed your entire argument and topic by asking you if "Brook Lopez was a better rebounder than Jason Kidd," you scored a perfect "10" in your mental gymnastics routine.

Time to hop on your other Sean Penn avatar, the retarded, stoned one.

[Walk on Water]

Wrong again.

Love is a superior rebounder and inferior at everything else.

Meanwhile Bron is superior to Jordan at near everything and near equal in scoring and equal defensively.


8ball in this thread delivering knock out hits

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Wrong. Jordan was better at Lebron in nearly every important category. Not even close defensively. Jordan was the better scorer, defender, and won more championships while having less hall of famers around him.


Lebron at his size and position is an underwhelming rebounder and should average more.

And yes, Love is better at rebounding at Lebron.

Lebron will never match Jordan in greatness.

[Walk on Water]

Why would I be triggered if I am 100% correct.


I am correct. Lebron is a very underwhelming rebounder.

[Walk on Water]

Yes. LeBron's entire career trajectory was meant to overtake Jordan, which he did in 2020.

It encompasses 80% of this forum's discussion topics.

All LeBron discussions are GOAT debates, nothing else.


And yet many of my friends don't even know who Lebron is. If you say Jordan, that's like saying Babe Ruth or Muhammad Ali. Many casuals don't know Lebron.

[bullettooth]

Jordan was never able to accomplish something like this:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b3/75/c7/b375c7a409b2c1eaafcf56ef23a110b3--lebron-james-stats-nba-finals-.jpg



Against a 73 win team nonetheless.

Statistically, LeBron is more likely to lose in the finals.

[FKAri]

Yet when it's a Lebron topic, somehow it's ok to insert Jordan right?

Life's not fair. It is what it is.

[Walk on Water]

Statistically, LeBron is more likely to lose in the finals.



They bring up 2016, but then what about the Dallas choke series?

[Spurs m8]

This was your LeCentre at work, 2 games ago

Mr 4th Quarter

Look at that fvcking defense :roll::roll:

:facepalm:facepalm

https://i.ibb.co/wdzFDq7/FB-IMG-1648065123900.jpg

[Baller789]

Life's not fair. It is what it is.

:whatever: