Is Carmelo Anthony overrated? Did he deserve to make the top 75?

[Im Still Ballin]

Title.



- 10x All-Star
- 6x All-NBA (2x 2nd team, 4x 3rd team)
- 1x Scoring Title (2012-2013)

MVP Award Shares:

2003-04 NBA 0.001 (14)
2006-07 NBA 0.001 (15)
2007-08 NBA 0.002 (13)
2009-10 NBA 0.053 (6)
2012-13 NBA 0.393 (3)
2013-14 NBA 0.003 (15)


The best season of his career was either 2008-2009 or 2012-2013. Outside of those seasons, he had 11 first round exits.

I think Dwight had a better career and was more deserving of top 75 status. People just get enamored and obsessed with the flash and pizazz of scoring from the perimeter.

[SouBeachTalents]

I'm no Melo fan, but I think based on his resume/body of work he deserved to make the top 75. But of guys from his era who missed it, Dwight & McGrady should've been included before Melo.

[Xiao Yao You]

No. A.D. was better as was English

[Im Still Ballin]

No. A.D. was better as was English

Dantley was a great player; he's the all-time leader in points per shot for volume scorers. I think he's unfairly disregarded; a flawed player, but his strengths were tremendous. How different the narrative would've been had Detroit won in '88; how different he'd be looked upon.

[Manny98]

Not over Kyrie that's for sure

Same with Lillard

[PeroAntic]

People just get enamored and obsessed with the flash and pizazz of scoring from the perimeter.
People who think it doesn't matter at all are just as bad, if not worse, because they are pretentious for thinking they discovered some kind of hidden truth. Aesthetics matter. Skill matters. Today's game is better than previous eras because the skill level is improved and its more watchable. someone who does the little things should be appreciated more. but that doesn't mean that someone like Melo who can do things that few others can, should be depreciated.

[Im Still Ballin]

People who think it doesn't matter at all are just as bad, if not worse, because they are pretentious for thinking they discovered some kind of hidden truth. Aesthetics matter. Skill matters. Today's game is better than previous eras because the skill level is improved and its more watchable. someone who does the little things should be appreciated more. but that doesn't mean that someone like Melo who can do things that few others can, should be depreciated.

Are the players in this era that much more skilled? Or have the rules and their interpretations changed? In the past, referees were significantly more strict regarding carrying, travelling, and illegal screens.

I also don't think aesthetics matter, only results. It doesn't matter if you've got a slow pump-fake like Adrian Dantley, or a fast one like Melo.

[PeroAntic]

Are the players in this era that much more skilled? Or have the rules and their interpretations changed? In the past, referees were significantly more strict regarding carrying, travelling, and illegal screens.

I also don't think aesthetics matter, only results. It doesn't matter if you've got a slow pump-fake like Adrian Dantley, or a fast one like Melo.

The skill level constantly increases because there are players like Melo inspiring future generations. The rule changes is just a facilitating factor.

The whole 'aesthetics dont matter' is a joke that pretentious fans use to claim some kind of objectivity and by extension moral superiority. There is no such thing, it doesn't make you wiser or more profound if you shit on aesthetics.

theres a reason why some sports are more popular than others. its because in some sports you can see stuff that a regular guy is not able to do.

[Im Still Ballin]

The skill level constantly increases because there are players like Melo inspiring future generations. The rule changes is just a facilitating factor.

The whole 'aesthetics dont matter' is a joke that pretentious fans use to claim some kind of objectivity and by extension moral superiority. There is no such thing, it doesn't make you wiser or more profound if you shit on aesthetics.

theres a reason why some sports are more popular than others. its because in some sports you can see stuff that a regular guy is not able to do.

Are we talking about winning the game of basketball or the commercial success of basketball? If it's the latter, then sure, aesthetics matter. Never would I argue against that.

But straight winning? It doesn't matter how it looks, just if you get it done.

[PeroAntic]

Are we talking about winning the game of basketball or the commercial success of basketball? If it's the latter, then sure, aesthetics matter. Never would I argue against that.

But straight winning? It doesn't matter how it looks, just if you get it done.
Without the commercial success of basketball it would be irrelevant who is winning. the reason why basketball is a popular sport is because its aesthetically appealing due to players like Melo, which in turn breeds more popularity and draws more talent to the game

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

It depends who you want to replace him with. He clearly had a better career then Mcgrady. Someone like Dwight could of replaced him though

[bizil]

Hell ya Melo should be on the list! His resume is decorated enough for that honor FOR SURE! Plus you could make the case Melo has a top three scoring skillset EVER at the SF spot. KD holds that crown for sure. U gotta put Bird high as hell up there too. But Melo is in that top three area.

BUT I also agree Dwight, T Mac, Vince, Klay, and English should be on there with Melo. NOT IN PLACE OF MELO! What ****S UP THE LIST is having role players that become OVERRATED because they won a ring. The fact they included EVERYBODY from the original top 50 threw the list off. I am hell happy Nique and McAdoo made the 75. Their snubs TOTALLY ruined some credibility with the 50 list.

Guys like a Rodman ARE AN EXCEPTION though! Even if Rodman NEVER won ring, HE PROVED he's arguably the best defensive and rebounding forward of all time. So I'm cool with a Rodman on the list. Or having guys who NEVER made an All NBA team like Lenny Wilkens SHOULDN'T be on the list.

We SHOULDN'T be pitting Melo against Dwight, Vince, T Mac, Klay, or English level guys. This shit is about guys like Parish, Dave D, Lenny Wilkens, Walton, etc. on the list.

[TAZORAC]

Didn't play for 2 seasons and is still TOP 9 on NBA all time scoring list.

Anthony was one of the best mid-range scroers ever in his prime.

[paksat]

10x all star

uh you have to ask?

[paksat]

You're talking about a guy who has zero weaknesses on offense, and if he gets hot he's literally not missing.

this dude in game 1 vs kobe in 09 had 39 points and missed 6 shots.

you can't take the ball from him, he's fast as hell, he's big as hell, he can shoot lights out, he can post, he can take you off the dribble.

you can't tell me anything offensively from him is a weak point. I believe he just realized that he's never gonna win a title with some of the rosters he was dealt with and just didn't care to play defense most of the time. But if you go and watch those 09 games vs kobe you'll see a guy who is playing lights out on defense. It proves he CAN play defense, and at a GREAT level.

You're talking about an ELITE offensive player who can also be GREAT on defense.

[kawhileonard2]

I'm no Melo fan, but I think based on his resume/body of work he deserved to make the top 75. But of guys from his era who missed it, Dwight & McGrady should've been included before Melo.

I agree with this, but Melo should have been over Damian as well.

[Baller789]

You're talking about a guy who has zero weaknesses on offense, and if he gets hot he's literally not missing.

this dude in game 1 vs kobe in 09 had 39 points and missed 6 shots.

you can't take the ball from him, he's fast as hell, he's big as hell, he can shoot lights out, he can post, he can take you off the dribble.

you can't tell me anything offensively from him is a weak point. I believe he just realized that he's never gonna win a title with some of the rosters he was dealt with and just didn't care to play defense most of the time. But if you go and watch those 09 games vs kobe you'll see a guy who is playing lights out on defense. It proves he CAN play defense, and at a GREAT level.

You're talking about an ELITE offensive player who can also be GREAT on defense.

Those are true, however he is also a ballstopper.
Not good for the team offense overall.

Mostly he's overrated, but still a top player.

[TheGoatest]

Title.

- 10x All-Star
- 6x All-NBA (2x 2nd team, 4x 3rd team)
- 1x Scoring Title (2012-2013)

MVP Award Shares:

2003-04 NBA 0.001 (14)
2006-07 NBA 0.001 (15)
2007-08 NBA 0.002 (13)
2009-10 NBA 0.053 (6)
2012-13 NBA 0.393 (3)
2013-14 NBA 0.003 (15)

The best season of his career was either 2008-2009 or 2012-2013. Outside of those seasons, he had 11 first round exits.

I think Dwight had a better career and was more deserving of top 75 status. People just get enamored and obsessed with the flash and pizazz of scoring from the perimeter.

Way better resumé than Reggie Miller, that's for sure. Neither deserved to be in top 75 over 5 x all-NBA 1st team/3 x DPOY Dwight Howard though. But Reggie Miller didn't deserve it way more Carmelo.

[iamgine]

Melo was not that good. I think he might be the worst modern player inducted to the top 75.