Bill Walton is the greatest champion in NBA history

[John8204]

He beat all three 50 win teams and did so with

Maurice Lewis (PF)
Lionel Hollins (PG)
Bob Gross (SF)
Jonathan Davis (SG)

Swept Kareem, defeated an impressive 76ers team and as a 3 seed did so as the road team for the last three rounds. Nobody had a harder road to win and did so with less talent against better teams/players.

[post]

he didn't lead his team in ppg in any of the 4 series and lucas was an all star that year

hakeem in 94 had no all stars and beat 3 50 win teams too who had a bunch of hall of famers as well

hakeem lead his team in scoring by a mile and was their best defender/rebounder like walton

hakeem greater

[SouBeachTalents]

he didn't lead his team in ppg in any of the 4 series and lucas was an all star that year

hakeem in 94 had no all stars and beat 3 50 win teams too who had a bunch of hall of famers as well

hakeem lead his team in scoring by a mile and was their best defender/rebounder like walton

hakeem greater
Hakeem led the Rockets in all 5 categories that postseason.

[post]

Hakeem led the Rockets in all 5 categories that postseason.

https://c.tenor.com/mywZrpriD_oAAAAM/vince-staples-fax.gif

[John8204]

he didn't lead his team in ppg in any of the 4 series and lucas was an all star that year

hakeem in 94 had no all stars and beat 3 50 win teams too who had a bunch of hall of famers as well

hakeem lead his team in scoring by a mile and was their best defender/rebounder like walton

hakeem greater

Hakeem's lineup

Otis Thorpe
Veron Maxwell
Robert Horry
Kenny Smith
with Sam Cassell as the 6th man off the bench

Better team...and the Rockets were a 2 seed so they were a 50 win team. Trail Blazers beat all three 50 win teams that season.

Walton > Hakeem

Also Hakeem beat Karl Malone and Patrick Ewing...Walton beat Dr J and Kareem.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Had he not dealt with so many injuries, he would have been regarded as the best passing big man of all-time.

[post]

Hakeem's lineup

Otis Thorpe
Veron Maxwell
Robert Horry
Kenny Smith
with Sam Cassell as the 6th man off the bench

Better team...and the Rockets were a 2 seed so they were a 50 win team. Trail Blazers beat all three 50 win teams that season.

Walton > Hakeem

Also Hakeem beat Karl Malone and Patrick Ewing...Walton beat Dr J and Kareem.

portland won 49 games in 77 and had a higher srs than 94 houston

walton beat 6 hall of famers to hakeem beating 5 but probably not much of a good argument for bobby jones but not kevin johnson

hakeem beat 5 players in the nba's 75 greatest players list walton beat 2

[post]

Had he not dealt with so many injuries, he would have been regarded as the best passing big man of all-time.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FN2yqfKagAAirPG.png

[John8204]

portland won 49 games in 77 and had a higher srs than 94 houston

walton beat 6 hall of famers to hakeem beating 5 but probably not much of a good argument for bobby jones but not kevin johnson

hakeem beat 5 players in the nba's 75 greatest players list walton beat 2

But Hakeem colluded with Clyde Drexler to repeat...Walton won with organic players. Also he won because the GOAT was sitting out his gambling/steroid suspensions...oops I mean sabbatical.

Which team was better 94' Rockets or 77' Trailblazers

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

He was a super important piece to the 1986 celtics run as well, they wouldn't have won without him. Matter a fact, they didn't win without him in 87 or 88.

Too bad his longevity as a superstar was so terrible.

[post]

But Hakeem colluded with Clyde Drexler to repeat...Walton won with organic players. Also he won because the GOAT was sitting out his gambling/steroid suspensions...oops I mean sabbatical.

Which team was better 94' Rockets or 77' Trailblazers

hakeem beat 6 top 75 players all on the road to win his 2nd chip and drexler was traded mid season so that's not colluding or creating an unfair advantage compared to stuff nowadays

jordan may be goat but he never beat more than 6 top 75 players for any of his chips

portland in 77 was probably the better team than 94 houston outside of walton and hakeem

[John8204]

hakeem beat 6 top 75 players all on the road to win his 2nd chip and drexler was traded mid season so that's not colluding or creating an unfair advantage compared to stuff nowadays

jordan may be goat but he never beat more than 6 top 75 players for any of his chips

portland in 77 was probably the better team than 94 houston outside of walton and hakeem

Shaq, Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Robinson, and Malone (who was injured and didn't play)

I don't know if that's better than

Kareem, Dr. J, Artis Gilmore, World B. Free, McGuinnes, and Dan Issel,

[HylianNightmare]

Both better than le4ron

[iamgine]

Nah, Portland had excellent casts. Bob Gross was the best role player in the entire NBA. They also had an all star in Maurice Lucas. Hollins was also an all star nxt season while playing similarly.

You think you can swept Kareem with nobodies. Joe Biden would say, "c'mon man".

[John8204]

Nah, Portland had excellent casts. Bob Gross was the best role player in the entire NBA. They also had an all star in Maurice Lucas. Hollins was also an all star nxt season while playing similarly.

You think you can swept Kareem with nobodies. Joe Biden would say, "c'mon man".

Well the only argument is Hakeem in 94 who had
Otis Thorpe
Points 17,600 (14.0 ppg)
Rebounds 10,370 (8.2 rpg)
Assists 2,730 (2.2 apg)

Marcus Lucas
Points 14,857 (14.6 ppg)
Rebounds 9,306 (9.1 rpg)
Assists 2,498 (2.4 apg)

And Robert (7 rings) Horry

[iamgine]

Well the only argument is Hakeem in 94 who had
Otis Thorpe
Points 17,600 (14.0 ppg)
Rebounds 10,370 (8.2 rpg)
Assists 2,730 (2.2 apg)

Marcus Lucas
Points 14,857 (14.6 ppg)
Rebounds 9,306 (9.1 rpg)
Assists 2,498 (2.4 apg)

And Robert (7 rings) Horry

Not really. There's GSW in '75. Now that's the greatest ring.

[Replay32]

Both better than le4ron

Rent Free

[post]

Shaq, Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Robinson, and Malone (who was injured and didn't play)

I don't know if that's better than

Kareem, Dr. J, Artis Gilmore, World B. Free, McGuinnes, and Dan Issel,

yeah mcginnis i forgot to include so it's 7 hall of famers walton beat in 77 compared to 5 for hakeem in 94 (world b. free is not hall of fame)

malone played in 94 and 95 against houston and wasn't injured as far as i know

comparing 77 to 94

1st round gilmore and drexler both had down years 94 portland probably somewhat better than 77 chicago advantage hakeem

2nd round overall denver and phoenix that year are similar quality phoenix better offense denver better defense let's say advantage hakeem because barkley

3rd round lakers didn't have much other than kareem compared to stockton and malone for utah advantage hakeem

finals knicks better defense philly better offense knicks probably better team dr. j better than ewing so let's say tie why not

95 houston is harder to compare to 77 portland because 95 drexler is probably better than anyone on 77 portland other than walton

95 houston beat teams that won 62 60 59 57 games including stockton/malone barkley/johnson robinson/rodman shaq/penny

if you put walton on 95 houston with drexler i doubt they are beating all those teams

[John8204]

Not really. There's GSW in '75. Now that's the greatest ring.

Barry's Warriors...nah it's a good run but they beat Unseld's Bullets, Haywood's Sonics, and Gilmore's Bulls. That would be like calling Leonards Raptors best ring ever. It's good but it's not beating Dr. J and Kareem in the 70's good. Barry's team was clearly the best

[post]

Barry's Warriors...nah it's a good run but they beat Unseld's Bullets, Haywood's Sonics, and Gilmore's Bulls. That would be like calling Leonards Raptors best ring ever. It's good but it's not beating Dr. J and Kareem in the 70's good. Barry's team was clearly the best

they were better than seattle...chicago didn't have gilmore but teams were pretty evenly matched and went down to the 4th quarter of game 7

beating the bullets was a big upset with no all stars for barry who carried hard in scoring like hakeem but defensively didn't do as much

kawhi's 2019 playoff run was great but he said himself load management helped them get to the finals and no durant in the finals taints it as well as beating a weak orlando team in the first round plus hakeem pretty clearly had a worse team to play with

[iamgine]

Barry's Warriors...nah it's a good run but they beat Unseld's Bullets, Haywood's Sonics, and Gilmore's Bulls. That would be like calling Leonards Raptors best ring ever. It's good but it's not beating Dr. J and Kareem in the 70's good. Barry's team was clearly the best

That's not even close to correct.

[John8204]

they were better than seattle...chicago didn't have gilmore but teams were pretty evenly matched and went down to the 4th quarter of game 7

beating the bullets was a big upset with no all stars for barry who carried hard in scoring like hakeem but defensively didn't do as much

kawhi's 2019 playoff run was great but he said himself load management helped them get to the finals and no durant in the finals taints it as well as beating a weak orlando team in the first round plus hakeem pretty clearly had a worse team to play with

Leonard had the major injuries to the Warriors and Unseld man...I'm really not a big fan of the Bullets. Kareem and Dr. J were the 70's top guys, the definers of the generation to me that's bigger than what Barry and Hakeem did.

[post]

Leonard had the major injuries to the Warriors and Unseld man...I'm really not a big fan of the Bullets. Kareem and Dr. J were the 70's top guys, the definers of the generation to me that's bigger than what Barry and Hakeem did.

seems like kawhi was being cautious and resting in 2019 not majorly injured

hakeem won mvp and defensive player of the year in 94 kawhi was 9th in mvp voting and 6th in dpoty so if it helps to have home court hakeem did a lot to get the rockets home court in every series they played

if you beat kareem or dr. j playing with four guys in a wheelchair it doesn't mean much so it helps to examine the context like i tried to

[RogueBorg]

Walton, one of my favorite players, wasn't the greatest champion of all-time, but if you want to see how good he was look at Portland's '77-'78 season. They were 50-10 and on pace to win 68 games when Walton pulled himself out of the game and missed the rest of the season. Portland went 8-14 the rest of the way (a 29-win pace) and got eliminated in the first round.

[GimmeThat]

can't just phrase greatest next to the lack of commercial success. concept has trumped over practicality in human history however.