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Ne 1
03-26-2022, 10:11 AM
To put that into perspective, MJ averaged 28ppg while getting 8.8 FTA’s per game in the 1998 season. He was second in the NBA in FTA’s behind Karl Malone. If you look at his FTA’s in the playoffs it’s even worse! :facepalm Dude got more love from the refs than any player in history! If you look at the list, MJ almost had over 200 more FTA’s than the next SG on the list which was Iverson! We talking about a 36 year old man getting more calls than a young, spry, athlete not even in his prime yet. Y’all will never be able to convince me the NBA didn’t have an agenda for Jordan. Look up damn near every HOF shooting guard that ever played in the NBA before or after MJ and you’ll see that their FTA’s went down as their careers progressed but for some weird reason, MJ’s FTA’s went up. How sway? :oldlol:

Johnny32
03-26-2022, 10:36 AM
The nba change the rules to help mj. It started then and once he won you weren't allowed to touch him. Hell you could barely contest 96-98 mj's jumper without getting a call.

FireDavidKahn
03-26-2022, 11:35 AM
Just imagine if LeGOAT got fair treatment as other stars like Embiid. LeGOAT would be averaging 35 PPG

Bronbron23
03-26-2022, 11:42 AM
The nba change the rules to help mj. It started then and once he won you weren't allowed to touch him. Hell you could barely contest 96-98 mj's jumper without getting a call.

Dude bron is literally playing in the easiest scoring era ever. Mj in 96 -98 was playing in the hardest scoring era. The unawareness of simple facts by bron stans is amazing

ArbitraryWater
03-26-2022, 11:44 AM
One of the most impressive scoring seasons of all time, truly.


But of course the morons as^ will try to spin.

ArbitraryWater
03-26-2022, 11:45 AM
Dude bron is literally playing in the easiest scoring era ever. Mj in 96 -98 was playing in the hardest scoring era. The unawareness of simple facts by bron stans is amazing


Sometimes you just have to take the things as they are, and not try to spin.


These arent "simple facts".

This is your wish.

Bronbron23
03-26-2022, 11:56 AM
Sometimes you just have to take the things as they are, and not try to spin.


These arent "simple facts".

This is your wish.

No spin it just is what it is. Over the last decade and a bit the league has put in rules to make scoring easier. No spin just facts playa.

guy
03-26-2022, 12:07 PM
To put that into perspective, MJ averaged 28ppg while getting 8.8 FTA’s per game in the 1998 season. He was second in the NBA in FTA’s behind Karl Malone. If you look at his FTA’s in the playoffs it’s even worse! :facepalm Dude got more love from the refs than any player in history! If you look at the list, MJ almost had over 200 more FTA’s than the next SG on the list which was Iverson! We talking about a 36 year old man getting more calls than a young, spry, athlete not even in his prime yet. Y’all will never be able to convince me the NBA didn’t have an agenda for Jordan. Look up damn near every HOF shooting guard that ever played in the NBA before or after MJ and you’ll see that their FTA’s went down as their careers progressed but for some weird reason, MJ’s FTA’s went up. How sway? :oldlol:

Jordan’s career FTA per game: 8.2
Lebron’s career FTA per game: 7.8
0.4 difference = huge agenda :oldlol:

1987_Lakers
03-26-2022, 12:11 PM
Jordan’s career FTA per game: 8.2
Lebron’s career FTA per game: 7.8
0.4 difference = huge agenda :oldlol:

He averaged closer to 9 FTA per game if you take out his Wizards years.

In the last 7 years, LeBron has only averaged 6.5 FTA per game.

ArbitraryWater
03-26-2022, 12:19 PM
No spin it just is what it is. Over the last decade and a bit the league has put in rules to make scoring easier. No spin just facts playa.

Thats literally a spin.

You wont accept the numbers as they are and try to put a spin on it.


Youre basically a terrible human being.

Johnny32
03-26-2022, 12:20 PM
I wonder when is the last time someone averaged 30 on less than 6 fta?

guy
03-26-2022, 02:07 PM
He averaged closer to 9 FTA per game if you take out his Wizards years.

In the last 7 years, LeBron has only averaged 6.5 FTA per game.

If there was this calculated agenda for Jordan, the Wizards years was when he would’ve needed more FTs the most :oldlol: you really think the NBA wanted Jordan to not make the playoffs??

Even with Jordan being higher then Lebron the ratio of FTA/FGA is higher for Lebron for their career. This is despite Lebron taking a lot more threes and also at times avoiding the FT line especially at the end of games, which Jordan never did.

And if we’re just removing years for Jordan you could do the same for Lebron the comparison would still be similar.

Spurs m8
03-26-2022, 02:08 PM
Cool, who cares?

It's really not interesting at all.
Because he can't stop losing - due to dominating the ball, being useless off ball, playing no D, horrid in the clutch and being a terrible leader.

MadDog
03-26-2022, 02:15 PM
LeBron also chucks about 8 threes a game. :oldlol: Way to leave that out.

guy
03-26-2022, 02:15 PM
I wonder when is the last time someone averaged 30 on less than 6 fta?

Steph did it 6 years ago.

3ba11
03-26-2022, 03:01 PM
He averaged closer to 9 FTA per game if you take out his Wizards years.

In the last 7 years, LeBron has only averaged 6.5 FTA per game.


Lebron is a vastly inferior scorer, so he gets fouled less

He isn't a good scorer because he must exoend the team's offense to get buckets.. he lacks the elite jumpshooting skill to take contested jumpers and run off screens so the team can play a good brand of ball

Instead, he takes lullaby jumpers - he uses up the shot clock to lull the defender to sleep - those are the only jumpers he takes and it's an unwinnable brand of ball regardless of cast.. AD must be the leading scorer to beat the West

Keno
03-26-2022, 05:59 PM
every day, lebron sets himself apart as the undisputed goat with no one coming close.

TheCorporation
03-27-2022, 12:39 PM
The nba change the rules to help mj. It started then and once he won you weren't allowed to touch him. Hell you could barely contest 96-98 mj's jumper without getting a call.

And LeBron STILL passed his ass in points, the only supposed thing he was "better" at :lol

It's over. LBJ > MJ

TheCorporation
03-27-2022, 03:48 PM
every day, lebron sets himself apart as the undisputed goat with no one coming close.

It's levels to this shit really

LeBron made his own tier. It's just called the LBJ tier.

Westbrook_Fan
03-27-2022, 03:51 PM
Lebron is a vastly inferior scorer, so he gets fouled less

He isn't a good scorer because he must exoend the team's offense to get buckets.. he lacks the elite jumpshooting skill to take contested jumpers and run off screens so the team can play a good brand of ball

Instead, he takes lullaby jumpers - he uses up the shot clock to lull the defender to sleep - those are the only jumpers he takes and it's an unwinnable brand of ball regardless of cast.. AD must be the leading scorer to beat the West


But he scored more points than anyone in NBA history?

3ba11
03-27-2022, 07:26 PM
But he scored more points than anyone in NBA history?


Lebron isn't a good scorer compared to the best scorers because his high scoring is too abnormally-ball-dominant to beat good teams, while also lacking the elite jumpshooting skill to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load)... Since he can't beat good teams with high scoring or carry the scoring load in the Finals, he needs elite 1st options to play sidekick like Wade, Kyrie or AD.. These sidekicks actually outplayed league MVP's or FMVP's - that's the most help possible - Bosh outplayed Rose in the 11' ECF, while Kyrie outplayed Curry in the 16' FInals and AD outplayed Jokic in 20'.. Wade significantly outproduced FMVP Dirk in the 11' Finals..

Every team has a ball-dominator, but Lebron's ball-dominance is abnormal for a frontcourt player, so Lebron's teams are the most ball-dominant in the league.. This matters because ball-dominance lets a defense rest, so they have more capacity to go off offensively - the story is always how opponents "get hot" on Lebron's teams - see the 09' ECF, 11' FInals, 14' Finals, 17' Finals, 18' Finals, or 21' 1st Round.. Ultimately, Lebron's teams are have the highest defensive requirements because they're always facing fresh offenses that aren't worn down by a good brand of ball.

A tenet of all competition is that the best defense is a good offense - unfortunately, Lebron-ball (aka "big man ball-dominance") applies less pressure and wears down opponents less than the ball movement it faces - it loses the attrition battle inherent in any competition.. The inferior brand of ball yields perennial Finals underdogs regardless of cast and barely meets the underdog expectation (4/10 including 2 teammate bailouts).. It also underachieves the expectation - Lebron's teams were the preseason favorite from 2011-2016 but fell to Finals underdog or loser every year (6 straight years), aside from the Ray Allen miracle.. The Ray Allen miracle is the only thing that stopped Lebron's preseason favorite from falling to Finals underdog or loser for 6 straight years.

TheGoatest
03-27-2022, 11:15 PM
$ilver and the refs out there discussing how to give LeBron as few free throws as possible while giving Embiid/Giannis as many as possible like:

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