View Full Version : How many players have surpassed Curry in the last few years?
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 05:04 PM
We've got
Giannis
Jokic
Embiid
Luka
Tatum
Booker
Derozan
They're all better and bring much more to the table than curry whose only 32 and should be still in his prime
Guys like LeBron and Durant have always been ahead of course.
Who else am I missing?
I remember when his 2 mvps were supposed to be some major thing in his favor but Jokic is on the verge of back 2 back... Giannis already has 2... Harden could easily have multiple and should've won in 2015....
Funny how quickly his hype train crashed and burned after Durant left. :lol
Now he's not even a top 10 player
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 05:32 PM
Does Currys name even generate interest anymore?
One-trick pony, no defense playing, low basketball IQ, injury prone, has been
All the guys in the OP are so much better, smarter, more well-rounded, less cringey off the court, and their games are far better suited for playoff ball
Curry is the most overrated player of all time, and not top 10 currently
Crazy how getting carried by stacked teams tricked people into thinking he's an all-time great. He's an all-time great SHAM
:applause:
Trae young just had his very first iconic moment in the playoffs last year
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 06:16 PM
:applause:
Trae young just had his very first iconic moment in the playoffs last year
Forgot about Trae
They score rhe same on the same efficiency but Trae is a way better decision maker and passer. Not even close in that regard
Who else?
tontoz
03-30-2022, 06:21 PM
Curry was born in March 1988 but OP thinks he is only 32.
:facepalm
Curry was a MVP finalist just last year. When has DeRozan ever been a MVP finalist?
Forgot about Trae
They score rhe same on the same efficiency but Trae is a way better decision maker and passer. Not even close in that regard
Who else?
What about jimmy butler? He destroyed league mvp giannis during the 2020 bubble and took the heat to the finals when nobody even expected them to be there rofl.
John_Connor
03-30-2022, 06:26 PM
both lebron and curry are out of the top 10 at this point. neither have any real impact on winning. completely useless front running all offense zero defense or leadership
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 06:29 PM
What about jimmy butler? He destroyed league mvp giannis during the 2020 bubble and took the heat to the finals when nobody even expected them to be there rofl.
Not a bad mention. Although he's a bit inconsistent, and not all that stable.
It's a toss up, but he's certainly the much better defender and decision maker.
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 06:31 PM
Curry was born in March 1988 but OP thinks he is only 32.
:facepalm
Curry was a MVP finalist just last year. When has DeRozan ever been a MVP finalist?
Morant would've been an MVP finalist this year too if not for some pretty minor injuries.
The MVP thing doesn't hold weight anymore. Jokic is on the verge of back 2 back. Giannis has 2 and is a DPOY winner.
The steph stans can't brag about MVPs anymore, especially since he stole one from Harden, so that's 3 guys in the last 7 years who have more.
And oh, he just turned 34. Has no real millage though and has been plenty rested these last several years. No excuses
tontoz
03-30-2022, 06:47 PM
Morant would've been an MVP finalist this year too if not for some pretty minor injuries.
The MVP thing doesn't hold weight anymore. Jokic is on the verge of back 2 back. Giannis has 2 and is a DPOY winner.
The steph stans can't brag about MVPs anymore, especially since he stole one from Harden, so that's 3 guys in the last 7 years who have more.
And oh, he just turned 34. Has no real millage though and has been plenty rested these last several years. No excuses
He just won a scoring title last year with a TS of 65%. Why don't you list all the guys who have done that.
And there is this
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20220324-165711.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20211029-195923.jpg
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 06:50 PM
He just won a scoring title last year with a TS of 65%. Why don't you list all the guys who have done that.
And there is this
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20220324-165711.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20211029-195923.jpg
Lebrons doing it at age 37
And he has no argument over anyone mentioned in this thread so far
tontoz
03-30-2022, 07:02 PM
Lebrons doing it at age 37
And he has no argument over anyone mentioned in this thread so far
Math really isn't your thing :roll:
warriorfan
03-30-2022, 07:03 PM
He just won a scoring title last year with a TS of 65%. Why don't you list all the guys who have done that.
And there is this
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20220324-165711.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20211029-195923.jpg
:roll: :roll:
Nice thread op
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 07:08 PM
Math really isn't your thing :roll:
I have an engineering degree lmao
Chris Paul is better than doncic??
That's your argument?
:roll:
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 07:10 PM
:roll: :roll:
Nice thread op
How's that 400sq foot apartment treating you?
tontoz
03-30-2022, 07:15 PM
I have an engineering degree lmao
Chris Paul is better than doncic??
That's your argument?
:roll:
So how do you come up with Curry being 32 when he was born in '88.
And when I ask you to list guys who've won a scoring title with a 65% TS how do you come up with LeBron who has never had a 65% TS in his career, although he got close a couple of times but won't this year.
:confusedshrug:
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 07:23 PM
So how do you come up with Curry being 32 when he was born in '88.
And when I ask you to list guys who've won a scoring title with a 65% TS how do you come up with LeBron who has never had a 65% TS in his career, although he got close a couple of times but won't this year.
:confusedshrug:
I'm sorry I don't know his exact age off the top. If you think I looked up the year he was born and got the math wrong then that's a pretty wild assumption to make
He won a scoring title and failed to make the playoffs with 2 other all-stars :lol
That's cool.
So what's his argument currently over the guys mentioned in this thread who are better all around players? Since that's whats the thread about. Nor curry failing to make the playoffs with 2 other all Stars :lol
tontoz
03-30-2022, 07:38 PM
I'm sorry I don't know his exact age off the top. If you think I looked up the year he was born and got the math wrong then that's a pretty wild assumption to make
He won a scoring title and failed to make the playoffs with 2 other all-stars :lol
That's cool.
So what's his argument currently over the guys mentioned in this thread who are better all around players? Since that's whats the thread about. Nor curry failing to make the playoffs with 2 other all Stars :lol
2 all stars? Curry was the only all star on that team. Not only did Klay miss the entire season but they lost two starters with over a month left .
The only guys clearly above Curry right now are the top 3 on that list.
Real Men Wear Green
03-30-2022, 07:40 PM
So how do you come up with Curry being 32 when he was born in '88.
The engineering degree wasn't in addition.
Spurs m8
03-30-2022, 07:42 PM
He just won a scoring title last year with a TS of 65%. Why don't you list all the guys who have done that.
And there is this
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20220324-165711.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20211029-195923.jpg
Yikes
Op delivered another big fat dildo
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 07:46 PM
The engineering degree wasn't in addition.
You tried to make a joke but subtraction is the method that would be used in that scenario
Nice try though fatty.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 07:54 PM
For anyone who might be interested Adrian Dantley is the only other guy to win a scoring title with a 65% TS. Curry has done it twice.
Not a bad mention. Although he's a bit inconsistent, and not all that stable.
It's a toss up, but he's certainly the much better defender and decision maker.
:cheers:
How's that 400sq foot apartment treating you?
:milton
j3lademaster
03-30-2022, 08:11 PM
He just won a scoring title last year with a TS of 65%. Why don't you list all the guys who have done that.
And there is this
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20220324-165711.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20211029-195923.jpgAnd if we go by win/loss the 21 Warriors were 2-7 without him and this year they're 3-9 without him.
Interestingly enough they tracked the Warrior's last 4 years without him, win/loss, stats and all. Hint: it's not pretty
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/what-is-the-warriors-record-without-steph-curry-the-last-4-years
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 08:13 PM
For anyone who might be interested Adrian Dantley is the only other guy to win a scoring title with a 65% TS. Curry has done it twice.
Who the **** is that :roll:
Pretty meaningless achievement if these 2 scrubs are the only guys to do it.
If you think Curry is better than luka, Tatum, and all the other guys in the OP then you should stop watching ball man.
j3lademaster
03-30-2022, 08:14 PM
For anyone who might be interested Adrian Dantley is the only other guy to win a scoring title with a 65% TS. Curry has done it twice.Getting ts that high without shooting 3's is pretty insane.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 08:31 PM
Who the **** is that :roll:
Pretty meaningless achievement if these 2 scrubs are the only guys to do it.
If you think Curry is better than luka, Tatum, and all the other guys in the OP then you should stop watching ball man.
If you don't even know who Adrian Dantley is you must be a kid or don't know much.
Luka came into the season obviously overweight and out of shape. Prior to the AS game his TS of 55% was pretty mediocre. He has been playing much better the last two months.
Tatum was leading the league in bricked jumpers by a mile early on, then picked it up. Pre all star game he also had a 55% TS. After the break he's been lighting it up but that's only 15 games.
While Tatum and doncic were struggling Curry was lighting it up and the warriors either had or were close to the best record in the league before Klay played his first game. At Xmas Curry was at the top of the MVP ladder.
Who the **** is that :roll:
Pretty meaningless achievement if these 2 scrubs are the only guys to do it.
If you think Curry is better than luka, Tatum, and all the other guys in the OP then you should stop watching ball man.
Uncle T is a closet curry stan. He just can't help it whenever somebody makes fun of his hero itb. :(
tontoz
03-30-2022, 08:38 PM
Uncle T is a closet curry stan. He just can't help it whenever somebody makes fun of his hero itb. :(
You can't help bringing up his name in threads that have nothing to do with him. So bitter he took rings away from your hero.
:cry:
You can't help bringing up his name in threads that have nothing to do with him. So bitter he took rings away from your hero.
:cry:
And which threads are those? Lmao.
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 08:40 PM
If you don't even know who Adrian Dantley is you must be a kid or don't know much.
Luka came into the season obviously overweight and out of shape. Prior to the AS game his TS of 55% was pretty mediocre. He has been playing much better the last two months.
Tatum was leading the league in bricked jumpers by a mile early on, then picked it up. Pre all star game he also had a 55% TS. After the break he's been lighting it up but that's only 15 games.
While Tatum and doncic were struggling Curry was lighting it up and the warriors either had or were close to the best record in the league before Klay played his first game. At Xmas Curry was at the top of the MVP ladder.
I know who is he, he's barely a top 100 all time player. So using him as an example for Currys alleged greatness is Bush league.
Yeah November and December curry was killing it man. That's what it's all about, whose MVP on Christmas. :oldlol:
He's been surpassed and forgotten. Come to grips with it.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 08:50 PM
I know who is he, he's barely a top 100 all time player. So using him as an example for Currys alleged greatness is Bush league.
Yeah November and December curry was killing it man. That's what it's all about, whose MVP on Christmas. :oldlol:
He's been surpassed and forgotten. Come to grips with it.
Forgotten? You obviously remembered him well enough to make a thread about him.
Spurs m8
03-30-2022, 08:53 PM
Forgotten? You obviously remembered him well enough to make a thread about him.
Op is fuming
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 09:00 PM
Forgotten? You obviously remembered him well enough to make a thread about him.
Yep. Forgotten and surpassed by many.
He's not even top 10 currently.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 09:08 PM
Yep. Forgotten and surpassed by many.
He's not even top 10 currently.
7th in VORP and and 9th in BPM. Pretty strong for a guy who is forgotten.
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 09:13 PM
7th in VORP and and 9th in BPM. Pretty strong for a guy who is forgotten.
Forgotten is relative term of course.
All the players in OP get talked about more and are better players. Curry is old news, and will never be a top 10 player again.
Jeremy Lin on a macro scale.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 09:18 PM
Forgotten is relative term of course.
All the players in OP get talked about more and are better players. Curry is old news, and will never be a top 10 player again.
Jeremy Lin on a macro scale.
You really aren't very good at this trolling thing. I guess they didn't teach that in engineering school.
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 09:22 PM
You really aren't very good at this trolling thing. I guess they didn't teach that in engineering school.
That was an incredibly clever and relevant response. Well done.
Anybody else wanna chime in?
Currys hype has disappeared and anyone ranking him anywhere near top 10 all-time should jump off a bridge. :lol
He's not even top 10 CURRENTLY. He's been surpassed by EVERYONE relevant!
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 09:31 PM
Currys rings don't matter
His 1st ring was a complete fluke. Every team the Warriors faced was injured. They barely beat the Cavs who had Tristan Thompson as 2nd option :roll:
He didn't even win FMVP. Curry was such a nonfactor and underwhelming he lost out on FMVP to Iggy :D
Then durant came and won back 2 back FMVPS further cucking curry.
Most overrated player of all time!
tontoz
03-30-2022, 09:31 PM
That was an incredibly clever and relevant response. Well done.
Anybody else wanna chime in?
Currys hype has disappeared and anyone ranking him anywhere near top 10 all-time should jump off a bridge. :lol
He's not even top 10 CURRENTLY. He's been surpassed by EVERYONE relevant!
So he's not top 10 because Mr engineer who doesn't know how to use Google says so?
Cool story bro.
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 09:34 PM
So he's not top 10 because Mr engineer who doesn't know how to use Google says so?
Cool story bro.
Basketball isn't played on Google, sorry pal.
He's easily the most one-dimensional, worst decision making, and worst defender of anyone in the OP. I don't need Google for that.
And I've already destroyed his mvp and championship argument.
He's overrated all-time by a massive margin and not top 10 currently.
Sorry :(
tontoz
03-30-2022, 09:45 PM
Basketball isn't played on Google, sorry pal.
He's easily the most one-dimensional, worst decision making, and worst defender of anyone in the OP. I don't need Google for that.
And I've already destroyed his mvp and championship argument.
He's overrated all-time by a massive margin and not top 10 currently.
Sorry :(
Since you obviously aren't aware of this BPM and VORP take defense into account, as does RPM.
Guess who led the league in RPM last year among all players....
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20210520-180014.jpg
Kawhi_Why_Not
03-30-2022, 09:46 PM
Kawhi passed him in 2019
Giannis passed him last season
I would stop right there though. He's 4th in this era behind them two and Lebron.
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 09:49 PM
Since you obviously aren't aware of this BPM and VORP take defense into account, as does RPM.
Guess who led the league in RPM last year among all players....
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20210520-180014.jpg
There's always exceptions and weird stuff when it comes to advanced stats. Lonzo top 10? Yeah. Lmao.
Youre using advanced stats as your primary argument means you lose. You using last year where curry didn't even make the playoffs means you lose. Everybody in the OP is a better player than curry. You don't know basketball. He's not even an elite scorer anymore. 25ppg while being nowhere near thr playmaker that luka, jokic, Trae, and others are?
Get the **** out of here.
j3lademaster
03-30-2022, 09:49 PM
Kawhi passed him in 2019
Giannis passed him last season
I would stop right there though. He's 4th in this era behind them two and Lebron.No KD, wtf?
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 09:50 PM
Kawhi passed him in 2019
Giannis passed him last season
I would stop right there though. He's 4th in this era behind them two and Lebron.
Kawhit when healthy is for sure better too.
That's like 12 guys for sure I'd take over curry. There's probably more.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 09:51 PM
There's always exceptions and weird stuff when it comes to advanced stats. Lonzo top 10? Yeah. Lmao.
Youre using advanced stats as your primary argument means you lose. You using last year where curry didn't even make the playoffs means you lose. Everybody in the OP is a better player than curry. You don't know basketball. He's not even an elite scorer anymore. 25ppg while being nowhere near thr playmaker that luka, jokic, Trae, and others are?
Get the **** out of here.
The guy who won a scoring title just last season isn't an elite scorer?
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/.highres/abandonthread_zpshrdexpqz.gif
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 09:52 PM
The guy who won a scoring title just last season isn't an elite scorer?
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/.highres/abandonthread_zpshrdexpqz.gif
Is 25ppg elite? If so Trae is an elite scorer and WAYYYYYYY better playmaker and passer.
Trae > Steph
And Trae isn't even up there as one of the best players.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 10:03 PM
Is 25ppg elite? If so Trae is an elite scorer and WAYYYYYYY better playmaker and passer.
Trae > Steph
And Trae isn't even up there as one of the best players.
If you understood basketball at all, or knew how to use Google, you would know that he was averaging 28 before Klay came back.
He simply sacrificed shots for Klay. Curry took 21 shots per game in December. Klay came back in early January. Over the last two months Curry attempted under 17 shots per game.
He knows he needs Klay playing well to have a strong playoff run.
This shouldn't be that hard to understand for an engineer.
Is 25ppg elite? If so Trae is an elite scorer and WAYYYYYYY better playmaker and passer.
Trae > Steph
And Trae isn't even up there as one of the best players.
Even if dearest stephen curry is an elite scorer, the thing is he can't lead his team to a playoff berth if some of his core teammates (like dray or klay) are not playing for a whole season.
Like last year, his team lost in b2b games during the play-ins aka losers bracket despite him averaging close to 40 ppg in that span. In that case, his stans are blaming his teammates for not living up to expectations lol.
Oh, and he's also the first 'superstar' to have b2b losses rt too.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 10:08 PM
Even if dearest stephen curry is an elite scorer, the thing is he can't lead his team to a playoff berth if some of his core teammates (like dray or klay) are not playing for a whole season.
Like last year, his team lost in b2b games during the play-ins aka losers bracket despite him averaging close to 40 ppg in that span. In that case, his stans are blaming his teammates for not living up to expectations lol.
Oh, and he's also the first 'superstar' to have b2b losses rt too.
The team was +4 with him on the.court in both play in games
Both dray and Klay have missed 30 games or more this season and they are the 3 seed.
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 10:11 PM
If you understood basketball at all, or knew how to use Google, you would know that he was averaging 28 before Klay came back.
He simply sacrificed shots for Klay. Curry took 21 shots per game in December. Klay came back in early January. Over the last two months Curry attempted under 17 shots per game.
He knows he needs Klay playing well to have a strong playoff run.
This shouldn't be that hard to understand for an engineer.
We don't judge players for what they do for 2 months, we judge them for they do for the season. Hes averaging 25ppg. Pretty good. But not elite, especially when he adds nothing else to the table. No defense, no playmaking etc. All he's taked to do on that team is score. That's all he brings to the table
And I'm not an engineer by trade. I only went to school cause my employer at the time payed for it. College is a very inefficient and time consuming way to learn. It's good for connections and getting a job. It's not the best way to learn. Almost anything can be self-taught these days
You should self teach yourself basketball so we can have a better convo. You rely too much on advanced stats. You lack practical knowledge
The team was +4 with him on the.court in both play in games
Both dray and Klay have missed 30 games or more this season and they are the 3 seed.
Yes, they do. But since their system revolves not just one but multiple players from that core alongside some role players, their team needs close to or all of them playing in order to have a high rate of success in securing a seed for the postseason.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 10:17 PM
We don't judge players for what they do for 2 months, we judge them for they do for the season. Hes averaging 25ppg. Pretty good. But not elite, especially when he adds nothing else to the table. No defense, no playmaking etc. All he's taked to do on that team is score. That's all he brings to the table
And I'm not an engineer by trade. I only went to school cause my employer at the time payed for it. College is a very inefficient and time consuming way to learn. It's good for connections and getting a job. It's not the best way to learn. Almost anything can be self-taught these days
You should self teach yourself basketball so we can have a better convo. You rely too much on advanced stats. You lack practical knowledge
Advanced stats didn't get Curry a scoring title last year.
Even this year when he obviously sacrificed shots for Klay he is still 12th in scoring. The defensive attention he draws running around off the ball isn't going to stop because he suddenly isn't top 10 in scoring.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 10:21 PM
Yes, they do. But since their system revolves not just one but multiple players from that core alongside some role players, their team needs close to or all of them playing in order to have a high rate of success in securing a seed for the postseason.
They had the best record in the league before Klay had even played his first game. They won 9 straight without Green.
Without Curry they are 3-9. :pimp:
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 10:25 PM
Advanced stats didn't get Curry a scoring title last year.
Even this year when he obviously sacrificed shots for Klay he is still 12th in scoring. The defensive attention he draws running around off the ball isn't going to stop because he suddenly isn't top 10 in scoring.
So he's not even top 10 in scoring. Not good at defense. One of the worst decision making and passing PGs In the league.
I'm sorry that's just not top 10 worthy in 2022
He's been surpassed. He's one dimensional. He'll never be a top 10 player again
Nothing I'm saying it remotely untrue.
And idk what last year where he didn't make the playoffs has to do with anything.
tontoz
03-30-2022, 10:34 PM
So he's not even top 10 in scoring. Not good at defense. One of the worst decision making and passing PGs In the league.
I'm sorry that's just not top 10 worthy in 2022
He's been surpassed. He's one dimensional. He'll never be a top 10 player again
Nothing I'm saying it remotely untrue.
And idk what last year where he didn't make the playoffs has to do with anything.
Not top 10 based on what? You have yet to give anything other that it's true because I say so.
Nobody in the league draws more defensive attention without the ball than Curry. He is the only guy I've ever seen get double teamed outside the 3 ot line when he didn't even have the ball. That opens up easy opportunities for other guys.
Funny how you keep mentioning defense, which BPM takes into account, but have the nerve to mention guys like trae and Morant.
He had the 8 seed last year which would have made the playoffs any other year. Weak trolling once again.
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 10:39 PM
Not top 10 based on what? You have yet to give anything other that it's true because I say so.
Nobody in the league draws more defensive attention without the ball than Curry. He is the only guy I've ever seen get double teamed outside the 3 ot line when he didn't even have the ball. That opens up easy opportunities for other guys.
Funny how you keep mentioning defense, which BPM takes into account, but have the nerve to mention guys like trae and Morant.
He had the 8 seed last year which would have made the playoffs any other year. Weak trolling once again.
It's true because they're better and consistently are having monster games. They're simply outplaying curry and bring more to the table... it's as simple as that
Curry shoots 38% from 3... it's good, same as klay. There's a lot of great 3 point shooters today. It's not revolutionary.
I never mentioned morant. Trae and curry are both equally worthless on defense, score the same on the same efficiency, with Trae being the much better playmaker. So Trae gets the edge.
If you think I'm trolling then what does that say about you if you keep responding :lol
You know I'm not trolling. You just have weak arguments and cant keep up
tontoz
03-30-2022, 10:47 PM
It's true because they're better and consistently are having monster games. They're simply outplaying curry and bring more to the table... it's as simple as that
Curry shoots 38% from 3... it's good, same as klay. There's a lot of great 3 point shooters today. It's not revolutionary.
I never mentioned morant. Trae and curry are both equally worthless on defense, score the same on the same efficiency, with Trae being the much better playmaker. So Trae gets the edge.
If you think I'm trolling then what does that say about you if you keep responding :lol
You know I'm not trolling. You just have weak arguments and cant keep up
No you are just making up nonsense with nothing to back it up. This season Trae has a DBPM of -2. Curry has never been that bad or even close.
Jordan Poole wouldn't be the same player I'd he'd been drafted by Atlanta. Trae is so ball dominant that Poole would be reduced to a spot up shooter.
Collins has complained about trae's ball dominance more than once. Nobody has ever complained about Steph being ball dominant.
Why is Atlanta the 10 seed if Trae is so good?
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 10:58 PM
No you are just making up nonsense with nothing to back it up. This season Trae has a DBPM of -2. Curry has never been that bad or even close.
Jordan Poole wouldn't be the same player I'd he'd been drafted by Atlanta. Trae is so ball dominant that Poole would be reduced to a spot up shooter.
Collins has complained about trae's ball dominance more than once. Nobody has ever complained about Steph being ball dominant.
Why is Atlanta the 10 seed if Trae is so good?
You've been bragging about Stephs scoring title last year while missing the playoffs but now you wanna talk about seeding? Lmao
I know they both suck at defense. I don't need bpm to tell me one way or the other. They both suck at D.
Trae has the ball more because he's a much more talented playmaker and passer. Curry isn't skilled enough to dominate the ball
tontoz
03-30-2022, 11:05 PM
You've been bragging about Stephs scoring title last year while missing the playoffs but now you wanna talk about seeding? Lmao
I know they both suck at defense. I don't need bpm to tell me one way or the other. They both suck at D.
Trae has the ball more because he's a much more talented playmaker and passer. Curry isn't skilled enough to dominate the ball
The 'missing the playoffs' line when they had the 8 seed is just dumb.
If Trae was soo good they wouldn't have a worse record than the warriors did last year with Klay missing the whole season.
They had the best record in the league before Klay had even played his first game. They won 9 straight without Green.
Without Curry they are 3-9. :pimp:
Sure uncle. But like what i stated earlier, still no playoff berths yet with one of those core members missing a whole season.
AlternativeAcc.
03-30-2022, 11:26 PM
The 'missing the playoffs' line when they had the 8 seed is just dumb.
If Trae was soo good they wouldn't have a worse record than the warriors did last year with Klay missing the whole season.
They didn't make the playoffs though.. it's a fact lol. Curry and the warriors knew the parameters.
I dont think Trae is that good, hence I didn't mention him in the OP. But he scores the same as curry and is a far superior passer
Warriors cast without klay is better than the hawks cast.
2much_knowledge
03-31-2022, 02:52 AM
We've got
Giannis
Jokic
Embiid
Luka
Tatum
Booker
Derozan
They're all better and bring much more to the table than curry whose only 32 and should be still in his prime
Guys like LeBron and Durant have always been ahead of course.
Who else am I missing?
I remember when his 2 mvps were supposed to be some major thing in his favor but Jokic is on the verge of back 2 back... Giannis already has 2... Harden could easily have multiple and should've won in 2015....
Funny how quickly his hype train crashed and burned after Durant left. :lol
Now he's not even a top 10 player
How his team is losing without him says otherwise. Same cant be said....
AlternativeAcc.
03-31-2022, 03:06 AM
How his team is losing without him says otherwise. Same cant be said for Morant...
They played the Sun's super tight
Poole dropped 38/9/7
Dray is just now getting back so none of the games without curry count.
Honestly, warriors have the most stacked team in the league
Dray
Klay
Wiggins
Poole
Who has a supporting cast that good? The answer is no one
They have 5 all star caliber players when healthy and thus should easily win the title when healthy. But they won't. Because curry can't lead a championship team
They played the Sun's super tight
Poole dropped 38/9/7
Dray is just now getting back so none of the games without curry count.
Honestly, warriors have the most stacked team in the league
Dray
Klay
Wiggins
Poole
Who has a supporting cast that good? The answer is no one
They have 5 all star caliber players when healthy and thus should easily win the title when healthy. But they won't. Because curry can't lead a championship team
And even if the dubs do ever win the championship again, he won't win the finals mvp anyway (yet once more) because he can be easily exploited by opposing teams. Forcing one of his teammates to put up a much better production or impact for their team that would lead whoever that player not named stephen curry to garner the said award for performing decently in the corresponding finals series.
AlternativeAcc.
03-31-2022, 03:49 AM
And even if the dubs do ever win the championship again, he won't win the finals mvp anyway (yet once more) because he can be easily exploited by opposing teams. Forcing one of his teammates to put up a much better production or impact for their team that would lead whoever that player not named stephen curry to garner the said award for performing decently in the corresponding finals series.
Bingo
One dimensional curry is incapable of winning FMVP. Just doesn't have the skillset or toughness is requires
tontoz
03-31-2022, 08:23 AM
Over the last two years the Warriors are 5-17 without Steph but have winning records without Klay and Dray. Many of those games both guys were out.
Trae's defensive Raptor of -3 is last in the league among PGs. Steph is at .6 which ranks 16th.
GimmeThat
03-31-2022, 08:33 AM
Curry is 50th in career WS, 23rd in WS/48.
warriorfan
03-31-2022, 10:37 AM
:roll:
Op fuming
AlternativeAcc.
03-31-2022, 02:47 PM
So Curry is no longer top 10
But Durant after an Achilles injury is still easily top 5, if not number 1 (come playoff time he'll be number 1)
:applause:
Curry is done
tontoz
03-31-2022, 02:55 PM
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/.highres/lebron-flop-3_zpsk91twbwx.gif
GimmeThat
03-31-2022, 03:01 PM
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/.highres/lebron-flop-3_zpsk91twbwx.gif
all I see is a bunch of head bands going in directions not adding up
AlternativeAcc.
05-05-2022, 11:23 PM
So Curry is no longer top 10
But Durant after an Achilles injury is still easily top 5, if not number 1 (come playoff time he'll be number 1)
:applause:
Curry is done
YIKES BRO. :lol
Spot on about Curry. You can and morant and Poole.
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