Was Jordan too focused on Shortgevity numbers instead of Longevity?

[TheCorporation]

As we all know by now, LeLong is the Goat--the list doesn't lie.

https://i.postimg.cc/3JchW5xZ/TOP_1._GOAT.png


I don't reward early shortgevity quitters. Do you?

If MJ wasn't so focused on shortgevity would he have been the Goat?

[GimmeThat]

Jordan wasn't focused on shortgevity, the environment itself was shortgevity, "it's good to not be a player, you can coach, work in management/front office, work in broadcasting, the life outside of being a player while still being apart of the basketball world is glamorous"

[John_Connor]

I'm glad Kobe tore his achilles.. I would kill myself if this was my life


"hey guys. Kobe passed Karl malone. are we the goat now"

:lol

[John_Connor]

and btw OP.. lebrons shown that if he played in the west his entire career he would have under 1000 playoff points

[SouBeachTalents]

I'm glad Kobe tore his achilles.. I would kill myself if this was my life


"hey guys. Kobe passed Karl malone. are we the goat now"

:lol
You’re also glad he died too. Just a weird guy all around.

[GimmeThat]

and btw OP.. lebrons shown that if he played in the west his entire career he would have under 1000 playoff points

and Shaq would only have 1 ring had he played his entire career in the East

[John_Connor]

You’re also glad he died too. Just a weird guy all around.

the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

https://i.ibb.co/64BtM18/giphy-21.gif

[GimmeThat]

the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.


how war ends

[Full Court]

Well, TheConstipation is too focused on the stats that really don't matter. That much is clear.

-86
22-33
4/10
2011
Leading a super team to ....many games below .500. I've lost count at this point. :lol

[Full Court]

how war ends

War ending is merely an illusion. The state of war endures in perpetuity, but too many people lack the vision to see it.

[GimmeThat]

War ending is merely an illusion. The state of war endures in perpetuity, but too many people lack the vision to see it.

guess you aren't even interested in letting your body to be decomposed upon death so the earth could use it as nutrients. damn that's a lot of hate

[Full Court]

guess you aren't even interested in letting your body to be decomposed upon death so the earth could use it as nutrients. damn that's a lot of hate

If you look at it from an alternate perspective, I'm using the earth's nutrients. So it all balances out in the end.

[GimmeThat]

If you look at it from an alternate perspective,

what's the point of an alternate perspective, don't be the type that won't admit they're wrong.

[Full Court]

what's the point of an alternate perspective, don't be the type that won't admit they're wrong.

If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it. But I'm not. Two things that I know a lot about are wars and nutrients.

Never bite the hand that moves for the feeling of the granite well.

[John8204]

Jordan needed to be the best in the league, I think a big reason for that was his sponsorships. It made more sense when it came to money to retire than to play and fall behind Shaq, Duncan, AI, and Kobe. He came back because he was led to believe that he would end up owning the Wizards. I think also a number of players retired or cycled off whatever doping they were doing because they saw what was happening in baseball.

[GimmeThat]

If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it. But I'm not. Two things that I know a lot about are wars and nutrients.

Never bite the hand that moves for the feeling of the granite well.

if "The state of war endures in perpetuity", in what world do you deserve any nutrients. Remember, those are your words.

[TheCorporation]

So basically MJ was a shortgevity player and his stans wanna give him a short pass? No thanks, not my Goat.

[FultzNationRISE]

Very well put OP :applause:

People will take it as a knock on Jordan but it isnt. MJ simply realized Pippen was his key to success, so he invested everything he possibly could into the Pippen era and blowing his max load in a truncated time frame. After that he had nothing much to contribute.

Lebron took the long view and said “I can win anywhere, with anyone, and I’m going to focus on playing at a sustained high level.”

And the difference is clear in their all time positioning. MJ’s got a Top 5 spot, albeit clinging to it for dear life like a cowboy atop a rampaging bull, while Lebron’s anchored his luxury yacht in a private harbor reserved for the undisputed GOAT.

Nobody has to he upset by this. We can appreciate all the great players of yesterday and today.

It’s all good fellas.

[Spurs m8]

Only ISH would house people capable of these threads

God, no wonder you're a virgin

[Spurs m8]

BTW...Jordan was focused on WINNING...Nothing more, nothing less

You know, the actual purpose of sport...

You are a 10/10 failure, op

No wonder you're a bron fan

[GimmeThat]

Only ISH would house people capable of these threads



ISH is a website and at most only hosted people capable of these threads

[GimmeThat]

BTW...Jordan was focused on WINNING...Nothing more, nothing less

You know, the actual purpose of sport...

You are a 10/10 failure, op

No wonder you're a bron fan

can't be 10/10 at failure, only 1/1, if there's a child in you, maybe 2/1, or 3/1 with twins etc., feel free to focus on winning though

[Johnny32]

Jordan just didn't have the mental and physical toughness to grind out a 20 year career. The nba season is very long...sept training camp to june finals. He also lacked elite two way perimeter competition so that was a factor also. Maybe he has more to prove or maybe he burns out faster.

[GimmeThat]

Maybe he has more to prove or maybe he burns out faster.

because during his era, children of all ages that went on play date cared about what others have to prove

[Full Court]

if "The state of war endures in perpetuity", in what world do you deserve any nutrients. Remember, those are your words.

The state of war enduring in perpetuity is just a fact of life, whether you and I want it to be or not. And you're slightly misguided, because nutrients are acquired, not deserved or undeserved. You have to understand the nutrient flow if you're going to make sense of how the cosmic pieces fall into their steady range.

[GimmeThat]

The state of war enduring in perpetuity is just a fact of life, .

if the state of war endures in perpetuity, child birth would had been stopped long ago.

[2much_knowledge]

Was focused on winning. MIKE drop

[Full Court]

if the state of war endures in perpetuity, child birth would had been stopped long ago.

Incorrect. Child birth goes on, even in a state of war.

[Baller789]

Incorrect. Child birth goes on, even in a state of war.

Yep. People are h0rny AF.

[warriorfan]

Op is a virgin

[BigKobeFan]

Op is a virgin

[TheCorporation]

Very well put OP :applause:

People will take it as a knock on Jordan but it isnt. MJ simply realized Pippen was his key to success, so he invested everything he possibly could into the Pippen era and blowing his max load in a truncated time frame. After that he had nothing much to contribute.

Lebron took the long view and said “I can win anywhere, with anyone, and I’m going to focus on playing at a sustained high level.”

And the difference is clear in their all time positioning. MJ’s got a Top 5 spot, albeit clinging to it for dear life like a cowboy atop a rampaging bull, while Lebron’s anchored his luxury yacht in a private harbor reserved for the undisputed GOAT.

Nobody has to he upset by this. We can appreciate all the great players of yesterday and today.

It’s all good fellas.

Ladies and Gentlemen.

Fultzy da GOAT.

:applause:

[TheCorporation]

Jordan just didn't have the mental and physical toughness to grind out a 20 year career. The nba season is very long...sept training camp to june finals. He also lacked elite two way perimeter competition so that was a factor also. Maybe he has more to prove or maybe he burns out faster.

+1

He was a shortgevity player like Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, etc.

[Baller789]

Too bad ESPN and theAthletic has Jordan as #1.

Meanwhile in an obscure internet basketball forum...

...A number of posters, in which some are suspiciously dups, have Lebron as #1.

:lol

[WhiteKyrie]

BTW...Jordan was focused on WINNING...Nothing more, nothing less

You know, the actual purpose of sport...

You are a 10/10 failure, op

No wonder you're a bron fan

Such sad and pathetic need to troll to make them believe LeBron is GOAT.

I don’t think Jordan’s fans in the early to mid to late 90s needed to do such mental gymnastics to try to convince others he was GOAT. People just saw what they saw, and knew.

What’s understood didn’t have to be explained.

[theman93]

Too bad ESPN and theAthletic has Jordan as #1.

Meanwhile in an obscure internet basketball forum...

...A number of posters, in which some are suspiciously dups, have Lebron as #1.

:lol
Said suspicious dups also create and post images that are eerily similar in the way they are formatted. Couldn’t be the same person tho :lol

[AlternativeAcc.]

Said suspicious dups also create and post images that are eerily similar in the way they are formatted. Couldn’t be the same person tho :lol
Hey Baller789 :rockon:

[Spurs m8]

Actually...sorry, Westbrook fan

THIS is the dumbest thread of the week

[Axe]

Hey Baller789 :rockon:
Doubt it. Theman93 is coach rofl.

[Baller789]

Hey Baller789 :rockon:

:roll:

[TheMan]

BTW...Jordan was focused on WINNING...Nothing more, nothing less

You know, the actual purpose of sport...

You are a 10/10 failure, op

No wonder you're a bron fan

Why do you even try with OP and the rest of the ISH retards:oldlol:

[ImKobe]

MJ is the pinnacle of efficiency. Accomplished more in 1 decade with 1 team than Bran did in 2 decades with 3 teams and 100 different HOF/All-Star teammates.

[TheGoatest]

jordon sat out entire seasons because he wanted to boost his averages.
If you look at his career low averages in 1997-98 and Wizards seasons, it becomes mathematically clear that had he played 2 more seasons, his career ppg would've dropped significantly.
Had he played at ages 36 and 37, his career numbers would've been 27 ppg on a 47% FG%, 5 rpg and 4 apg. He was incapable of having a GIRTHY and slow decline of one LeBron James.

[Spurs m8]

Why do you even try with OP and the rest of the ISH retards:oldlol:

I don't know lol

[Johnny32]

Too bad ESPN and theAthletic has Jordan as #1.

Meanwhile in an obscure internet basketball forum...

...A number of posters, in which some are suspiciously dups, have Lebron as #1.

:lol

list made mostly by mj fangirls who worshiped him growing up. nerds so pathetic they tweaked advanced stats to favor him when they originally didn't in a desperate attempt to convince themselves their childhood wasn't a lie. the narrative will change greatly when they're done and can't push it with an audience anymore.

[Johnny32]

MJ is the pinnacle of efficiency. Accomplished more in 1 decade with 1 team than Bran did in 2 decades with 3 teams and 100 different HOF/All-Star teammates.

1-9.

[Full Court]

1-9.

Desperation :roll:

[TheCorporation]

MJ is the pinnacle of efficiency. Accomplished more in 1 decade with 1 team than Bran did in 2 decades with 3 teams and 100 different HOF/All-Star teammates.

6 Finals is the "Pinnacle?" :lol

Even TurdBe has 7...

Magic, Kareem, Russell, LBJ have 9 or more.

Keep up

[Full Court]

6 Finals is the "Pinnacle?" :lol

Even TurdBe has 7...

Magic, Kareem, Russell, LBJ have 9 or more.

Keep up

TheConstipation still doesn't understand that winning is better than losing. :roll:

[MrFonzworth]

Op is a virgin


I'm glad Kobe tore his achilles.. I would kill myself if this was my life


"hey guys. Kobe passed Karl malone. are we the goat now"

:lol


Op is a virgin

Maybe one day OP will go outside

[TheCorporation]

Maybe one day OP will go outside

There's my Alaskan mutt. Good boy

[Shooter]

As we all know by now, LeLong is the Goat--the list doesn't lie.

https://i.postimg.cc/3JchW5xZ/TOP_1._GOAT.png


I don't reward early shortgevity quitters. Do you?

If MJ wasn't so focused on shortgevity would he have been the Goat?

TheCorp always made the best threads.

[kawhileonard2]

He was too focused on winning gold medals as well as not losing series with HCA unlike another guy who wore #23 and #6.

[Spurs m8]

Imagine being shooter lol

[Baller789]

Imagine being shooter lol

I couldn't even imagine myself having a dozen alts and not taking a daily shower.

[Shooter]

As we all know by now, LeLong is the Goat--the list doesn't lie.

https://i.postimg.cc/3JchW5xZ/TOP_1._GOAT.png


I don't reward early shortgevity quitters. Do you?

If MJ wasn't so focused on shortgevity would he have been the Goat?

[Shooter]

6 Finals is the "Pinnacle?" :lol

Even TurdBe has 7...

Magic, Kareem, Russell, LBJ have 9 or more.

Keep up

Dis a MIC DROP Bois

[Elosha]

My God. As LeBron toils away in continued futility and irrelevance while chasing lifetime achievement awards, his butt worshippers on ISH come up with pitiful concepts such as "shortgevity" And think they are clever. Just pitiful. :facepalm

[expansionera]

Jordan fans: Wilt’s numbers don’t matter he played plumbers like Kareem and Russell!

Also Jordan fans: Jordan’s numbers count, Danny Ainge and Jeff Hornacek were elite defensive guards LeBron couldn’t handle the tough 90s era defenses

[Elosha]

Jordan fans: Wilt’s numbers don’t matter he played plumbers like Kareem and Russell!

Also Jordan fans: Jordan’s numbers count, Danny Ainge and Jeff Hornacek were elite defensive guards LeBron couldn’t handle the tough 90s era defenses

Do you honestly see the cakewalk offensive players have today driving to the basket, not having any hand-checking, and spamming 3-pointers as physically more difficult than the 90s and 2000's? You are either a troll or seriously need to be educated.

Boris Diaw and Jason Terry outplayed your hero. Learn to live with it. LeBron is an all-time great, he will never be GOAT.

[expansionera]

Do you honestly see the cakewalk offensive players have today driving to the basket, not having any hand-checking, and spamming 3-pointers as physically more difficult than the 90s and 2000's? You are either a troll or seriously need to be educated.

Boris Diaw and Jason Terry outplayed your hero. Learn to live with it. LeBron is an all-time great, he will never be GOAT.

Didn’t Jordan say he wouldn’t score a point if they allowed zone defense? LeBron is top 3, Jordan rounds out the top 25

[Hey Yo]

If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it.
:roll:

You're full of shit

[RogueBorg]

15 seasons is shortgevity?

[Yeezy]

As we all know by now, LeLong is the Goat--the list doesn't lie.

https://i.postimg.cc/3JchW5xZ/TOP_1._GOAT.png


I don't reward early shortgevity quitters. Do you?

If MJ wasn't so focused on shortgevity would he have been the Goat?

the fact that #2-#5 are so close together then #1 is that far ahead only screams PED's

and it also only shows how many more chances lebron needed just to come up short in the end

[Yeezy]

15 seasons is shortgevity?

and 94, 99, 00, 01 were left on the table willingly because he was already satisfied with passing magic in rings. that was the goal. then with the wizards it was just to show he could still play at an allstar level at 40

at least MJ didn't come back and join a big 3 like some other person would have

[Hey Yo]

15 seasons is shortgevity?

It took 19yrs.... by choice

[Elosha]

Didn’t Jordan say he wouldn’t score a point if they allowed zone defense? LeBron is top 3, Jordan rounds out the top 25

No he didn't say that. Your entire quote above is lunacy.

For example, Jordan routinely played against zones in the Olympics and always won gold with ease. How did LeBron do against those Olympic zones? Oh wait...

[Yeezy]

It took 19yrs.... by choice

jordans goal was to win 6 titles. not play in 10 finals to win 4

[expansionera]

No he didn't say that. Your entire quote above is lunacy.

For example, Jordan routinely played against zones in the Olympics and always won gold with ease. How did LeBron do against those Olympic zones? Oh wait...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWV2Fcxbw3A

Lies, Jordan feared the zone defense and was ineffective in the early 2000s without taking players such as Muggsy Bogues and Jeff Hornacek on one-on-one. Imagine if he had to play against sophisticated defenses with tall athletic players, in his own words he’d be more like DeMar Derozan

[Hey Yo]

jordans goal was to win 6 titles. not play in 10 finals to win 4

He didn't have the stamina to try to appear in 10 finals. That's why he quit twice in the 90's

[Hey Yo]

No he didn't say that. Your entire quote above is lunacy.

For example, Jordan routinely played against zones in the Olympics and always won gold with ease. How did LeBron do against those Olympic zones? Oh wait...

He said he wouldn't have had the career he did if he faced zone defense.

[Elosha]

^Jordan also didn't play with wide-open lanes of today where practically any player can Waltz down the lane for easy dunks and layups, with no hand-checking and diminished shot-blocking. He was literally one the best drivers of all time playing in a much harder time to drive than in this era. He would have feasted on these soft rules.

And regardless of what he stated here, whenever he actually did face a zone, including college, the Olympics and the unenforced zones of his own era, he routinely torched them.

[Bacchus]

He was focused on 3peats and he retired when he had nothing else to prove. Lebron has zero 3peats and one repeat

[ArbitraryWater]

the fact that #2-#5 are so close together then #1 is that far ahead only screams PED's

and it also only shows how many more chances lebron needed just to come up short in the end


when lebron is so good you have to assume it must be peds :lol

[Yeezy]

when lebron is so good you have to assume it must be peds :lol

assume? he was linked to a Miami steroid clinic twice

he has a biochemist on his payroll

he admitted to spending millions on his body every year

[Axe]

15 seasons is shortgevity?
5 seasons without a winning record. :(

[kawhileonard2]

5 seasons without a winning record. :(

But more titles, league mvp's, finals mvp's in less time than Lebron and turned a franchise that never won into a dynasty.

[Yeezy]

how this threads going right now


https://youtu.be/jB_NUDdHB_w

[Axe]

But more titles, league mvp's, finals mvp's in less time than Lebron and turned a franchise that never won into a dynasty.
Wow, an interesting post that sums up you're jordansbulls indeed. :applause:

[kawhileonard2]

Not sure who that is, but not sure why you are promoting another website.

[Axe]

Yea you keep on lying about it. Lol.