Jordan’s Finals matchups

[Ne 1]

‘91: Byron Scott (injured), ‘92 Clyde Drexler, ‘93: Thunder Dan, ‘96 Hersey Hawkins, ‘97/‘98 Bryon Russel/Jeff Hornacek

[Spurs m8]

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[SouBeachTalents]

Forget just the Finals, his 2 guard competition in the 90's was unbelievably weak.

Drexler
Reggie
Dumars
Richmond
Majerle

Those were legitimately the best SG's in the league in that decade. And what's crazy is, outside Drexler, the other 4 never made one All-NBA First Team in their career, nor were they ever remotely close to winning MVP. Those 4 had one top 12 MVP finish combined, a 10th place finish by Dumars.

[RogueBorg]

Forget just the Finals, his 2 guard competition in the 90's was unbelievably weak.

Drexler
Reggie
Dumars
Richmond
Majerle

Those were legitimately the best SG's in the league in that decade. And what's crazy is, outside Drexler, the other 4 never made one All-NBA First Team in their career, nor were they ever remotely close to winning MVP. Those 4 had one top 12 MVP finish combined, a 10th place finish by Dumars.

:roll: 4/5 Hall of Famers

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Not everybody can be like kawhi and all in 1 f'n year eliminate Embiid the highest per minute scorer in nba history, Giannis 2 time mvp and finals mvp, curry 3 time champion and 2 time mvp.

Kawhi eliminated 3 better players in 1 playoff run then Jordan did in the entire 1990s decade. Especially Giannis, he shits on anybody Jordan eliminated. Even tragic condoms and his smiling ass would get annihilated by Giannis.

[3ba11]

Forget just the Finals, his 2 guard competition in the 90's was unbelievably weak.

Drexler
Reggie
Dumars
Richmond
Majerle

Those were legitimately the best SG's in the league in that decade. And what's crazy is, outside Drexler, the other 4 never made one All-NBA First Team in their career, nor were they ever remotely close to winning MVP. Those 4 had one top 12 MVP finish combined, a 10th place finish by Dumars.


it wasn't a perimeter game back then, so few perimeter players got any real accolade.. But guys like MJ, Drexler, Penny, and Hill matchup well with today's top SG's or SF's

And guys like Reggie Lewis, Spreewell, Eddie Jones, Dale Ellis, Jim Jackson and others were good SG's... Certainly guys like Miller or Richmond were always criminally-underrated and deserved more All-NBA... .But MJ took the air out of the room and crushed his comp in all ways






Forget just the Finals, his 2 guard competition in the 90's was unbelievably weak.





Stats as 1st option in Playoffs - 10 games each

92' LEWIS'..... 28/4/4.. 57.0 ts.. 23.8 PER.. 0.177 ws.. 4.1 dbpm.. 2.6 obpm.. 6.8 bpm.. 0.9 vorp
94' PIPPEN.... 23/8/5.. 52.1 ts.. 22.8 PER.. 0.149 ws.. 4.0 dbpm.. 1.6 obpm.. 5.6 bpm.. 0.7 vorp

[Spurs m8]

:roll: 4/5 Hall of Famers

:roll:

[Axe]

Forget just the Finals, his 2 guard competition in the 90's was unbelievably weak.

Drexler
Reggie
Dumars
Richmond
Majerle

Those were legitimately the best SG's in the league in that decade. And what's crazy is, outside Drexler, the other 4 never made one All-NBA First Team in their career, nor were they ever remotely close to winning MVP. Those 4 had one top 12 MVP finish combined, a 10th place finish by Dumars.
And they berate pippen for not being a prolific scorer lmao

[Axe]

Btw, is it true that jordan never faced an opposing team composed of four all-stars for a season even once? Just asking.

[HoopsNY]

Forget just the Finals, his 2 guard competition in the 90's was unbelievably weak.

Drexler
Reggie
Dumars
Richmond
Majerle

Those were legitimately the best SG's in the league in that decade. And what's crazy is, outside Drexler, the other 4 never made one All-NBA First Team in their career, nor were they ever remotely close to winning MVP. Those 4 had one top 12 MVP finish combined, a 10th place finish by Dumars.

Pretty disingenuous take when you know MJ routinely faced Reggie Lewis from 1988-92 and torched the daylights out of him. He also regularly torched Drazen. If both those guys don't face tragic deaths, then there's no question they also end up in the HOF. But the '90s had a way of killing your career (or life), literally.

By 1996-98, he was facing young Sprewell, Iverson, Kobe, Houston, Allen, Jones, Finley etc as well. Seemed to be doing just fine, even as he aged. If MJ '85-'93 is facing any of those guys in their peaks, how's he doing? Heck, we saw a near 40 year old MJ putting up 25 PPG from 2002-03.

So how many guys are we up to now, like...12? Okay delete Kobe's rookie year, and even Finley's first 2. Still didn't matter much in '98 when Pippen missed 44 games. First game without Pippen against Finley? 41 pts and a win. Finley averaged 22 PPG that year.

The game against LA where Kobe scored 33? Chicago won. No Pippen or Shaq. And MJ dropped 36. Kobe was 6th man and an All-Star that year.

I'm sensing a theme here.

[kawhileonard2]

Jordan faced the #1 seed out west in 5 finals and the #2 seed once. He also faced the league mvp winner or runner up in 5 of the 6 finals. He also faced the team with the best or 2nd best record in the league in those finals. Lebron lost to Dallas who didn't have the best record nor was the top 2 seed in the conference. Even the 2007 Spurs had the 3rd best record in the conference and Lebron got swept by them.

[TheCorporation]

‘91: Byron Scott (injured), ‘92 Clyde Drexler, ‘93: Thunder Dan, ‘96 Hersey Hawkins, ‘97/‘98 Bryon Russel/Jeff Hornacek

Pathetic shortgevity rings

Pitiful Mikey

[TheGoatest]

jordon's competition was so weak that they weren't capable of beating Hakeem + a bunch of role players when they didn't have to face the "mighty" jordon.
Let that sink in.

[Elosha]

jordon's competition was so weak that they weren't capable of beating Hakeem + a bunch of role players when they didn't have to face the "mighty" jordon.
Let that sink in.

Those Rockets and Hakeem would have eaten alive LeBron and almost any team in his career. Whenever a championship team is extremely motivated to win, and has a superstar hitting on all calibers like Hakeem in 1994-95, LeBron almost inevitably loses.

Also, his lack of leadership, complete lack of defense, and turnover-prone nature has significantly contributed to the fact that the Lakers with multiple All-Stars may not even make the play in. Even with all the advantage of the play in system and a star-studded Lakers, LeBron is in huge danger of not even making it. Pathetic is too strong of a word but it's not too far off.

[Johnny32]

lol jordone's competition was absolutely embarrassing.

[3ba11]

lol jordone's competition was absolutely embarrassing.


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Regular Season

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html)'.... 17.7 PER.. 2.9 bpm.. 0.153 ws/48.. 42.1 vorp on 33,964 min.. 15/3/5 on 58.2 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............ 16.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.110 ws/48.. 14.4 vorp on 20,380 min.. 19/3/2 on 57.5 ts


Playoffs

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html)'.... 16.5 PER.. 3.1 bpm.. 0.145 ws/48.. 14.1 vorp on 4766 min.. 15/4/4 on 57.5 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............ 14.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.091 ws/48.... 3.1 vorp on 4570 min.. 19/3/2 on 56.0 ts


Klay & Dray hadn't been all-stars yet heading into the 2015 season

So the 15' Warriors had 1 perennial all-star (Curry) and the Jazz had 2 (Malone/Stockton), while Hornacek was far superior to Klay across the board (stats above)

So the Jazz > Curry Warriors... The Jazz nearly beat MJ twice and demolished Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers and Hakeem and Duncan/Popovich/Robinson, so they demolish Curry

[Lebron23]

Just terrible.

[Lebron23]

If LeBron plays in the 1990's. He is going to DeMar DeRozan him

[TheBranStan]

Absolutely pathetic lol

[Lebron23]

Absolutely pathetic lol

Welcome back bro

[TheBranStan]

Welcome back bro

Thanks bro :cheers: