35-year Lebron was Lakers 2nd leading scorer, while 35-year Jordan carried Bulls

[3ba11]

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PLAYOFFS


98' Pippen.... 16.8 on 41%
20' AD'.......... 27.7 on 57%


It's called fraud folks (putting LeChoke in the goat debate)

bubble gum mickey mouse ring that no one saw shouldn't even count

[1987_Lakers]

At 35

MJ in '98 Finals: 33.5|4|2 on 43 fg%
LeBron in '20 Finals: 30|12|9 on 59 fg%

No contest.

[3ba11]

At 35

MJ in '98 Finals: 33.5|4|2 on 43 fg%
LeBron in '20 Finals: 30|12|9 on 59 fg%

No contest.


Lebron wasn't facing maximum defensive attention - he wasn't carrying the scoring load like the 07' or 15' runs when he shot like garbage

AD averaged 25 on 55% compared to 15 on 41% for Pippen

So MJ defeated maximum defensive attention and faced a goat opponent, while Lebron faced a bum opponent and had a go-to teammate that comnanded attention

No contest.. Lebron isn't capable of defeating maximum defensive attention in the Finals and needs all-time juggernaut scoring help (like everyone else in history not named Mike)

[kawhileonard2]

At 35

MJ in '98 Finals: 33.5|4|2 on 43 fg%
LeBron in '20 Finals: 30|12|9 on 59 fg%

No contest.

Lebron was playing in an era where the rules were changed and had 4 months off as well. To give a fair comparison let's see what happened in the 2007 Finals, 2011 Finals, 2004 Olympics.

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron was playing in an era where the rules were changed and had 4 months off as well. To give a fair comparison let's see what happened in the 2007 Finals, 2011 Finals, 2004 Olympics.
Kawhi had 4 months off as well, how did he play?

[kawhileonard2]

Kawhi had 4 months off as well, how did he play?

Dude we have been thru this already. Let's talk offline or seperate thread and not hijack this one.

[3ba11]

At 35

MJ in '98 Finals: 33.5|4|2 on 43 fg%
LeBron in '20 Finals: 30|12|9 on 59 fg%

No contest.


Remember when Lebron averaged 22 on 36% in the 07' Finals because he had no help and the Spurs only paid attention to him?

Kenny Smith says that's what Jordan faced for his entire career - only Jordan never had a go-to teammate, so only Jordan had to always defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load).. Kenny Smith quote here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=01m54s).

Show me where Lebron defeated maximum defensive attention in the Finals (carried scoring load)... Show me where Lebron beat good teams (top 5 SRS) with bed-wetting teammates.. So where are his carry-jobs?.. He's a fraud.

[WhiteKyrie]

At 35

MJ in '98 Finals: 33.5|4|2 on 43 fg%
LeBron in '20 Finals: 30|12|9 on 59 fg%

No contest.

LeBron's man in '20 Finals:
26/8/10 on 55%

MJ's man in '98 Finals:
11/3/3 or 9/5/1

[1987_Lakers]

Lots of people triggered by me just posting a fact. 3ball quoted my post two times. LOL

[3ba11]

Lots of people triggered by me just posting a fact. 3ball quoted my post two times. LOL


We're trying to get you to respond to the thread title and OP

Instead, you found the 1 series that AD didn't lead the scoring as if that changes the fact that Lebron was the Lakers' 2nd-leading scorer all year and couldn't lead the way against the West

[Axe]

We're trying to get you to respond to the thread title and OP

Instead, you found the 1 series that AD didn't lead the scoring as if that changes the fact that Lebron was the Lakers' 2nd-leading scorer all year and couldn't lead the way against the West
You call out the others for cherry-picking when you kept on doing the same thing most of the time. Pretty amazing, isn't it? :kobe:

[3ba11]

You call out the others for cherry-picking when you kept on doing the same thing most of the time. Pretty amazing, isn't it? :kobe:


I never cherry-pick because it's a dumb way to argue

I simply would never do it

I do the OPPOSITE of cherry-picking

For example, Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with bed-wetting teammates, so he has zero carry-jobs against good teams in his entire career - that's 20 years and therefore not cherry-picking

Lebron also never defeated maximum defensive attention while winning the Finals (never carried the scoring load)

That's a big sample - it's the ENTIRE sample of his Finals career - 10 Finals

[Axe]

I never cherry-pick because it's a dumb way to argue

I simply would never do it

I do the OPPOSITE of cherry-picking

For example, Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with bed-wetting teammates, so he has zero carry-jobs against good teams in his entire career - that's 20 years and therefore not cherry-picking

Lebron never defeated maximum defensive attention while winning the Finals (never carried the scoring load)

That's a big sample - it's the ENTIRE sample of his Finals career - 10 Finals
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[3ba11]

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AD led Lebron in scoring, so Lebron's 2020 ring is like Kobe's rings with Shaq - worthless compared to Jordan's

Fortunately, Kobe won 2 other rings of the most difficult variety - defeating max defensive attention (carrying scoring load) and knowing how to win (organic, brand of ball)

Btw, Lebron needs so much scoring help to win - he needs juggernaut elite scorers to match him because his brand of scoring is shit lol

[Axe]

AD led Lebron in scoring, so Lebron's 2020 ring is like Kobe's rings with Shaq - worthless compared to Jordan's

Fortunately, Kobe won 2 other rings of the most difficult variety - defeating max defensive attention (carrying scoring load) and knowing how to win (organic, brand of ball)

Btw, Lebron needs so much scoring help to win - he needs juggernaut elite scorers to match him because his brand of scoring is shit lol
Rubbish

[Baller789]

LeBron's man in '20 Finals:
26/8/10 on 55%

MJ's man in '98 Finals:
11/3/3 or 9/5/1
This is such a dumb argument.

[3ba11]

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Thread Cliffs


At 35-years old, Lebron didn't carry the 20' Lakers while MJ carried the 98' Bulls