The NBA tracks how long players hold the ball each game, aka "time of possession"

[3ba11]

"hold-time" is a simpler term to use and it's a point guard stat - generally, the 30 players with the highest hold-times are starting point guards, except for Lebron..

He starts at forward but becomes a 2nd point guard on the floor (a 2nd player with a point guard hold-time)..

These 2 point guard lineups give teammates less hold-time, points and assists than they get in traditional 1 point guard lineups, which results in low TEAM assists and a brand that struggles on the championship level (4/10 including 2 teammate bailouts).

His abnormal ball-dominance imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (team-hopping.. talent-based winning).. He can't win organically because he can't develop young players and can't develop the best brand in the league, as required of organic winners.. lebron NEEDS to team-hop (talent-based winning) because he can't win with brand of ball (organic).

The 04' Pistons or 11' Mavs won the Finals with superior chemistry and brand of ball, not superior talent.. Similarly, the Spurs, Warriors and 90's Bulls developed the best brand in the league.. So Lebron doesn't know how to win (brand of ball.. organic) and only knows how to team-hop (talent-based winning.. all-star team strategy).

In addition to not knowing how to win (organic.. brand of ball), Lebron can't really carry teams because his high scoring is too ball-dominant to beat good teams and he lacks the elite jumpshooting skill needed to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals) or have carry-jobs against good teams (defeat a top 5 SRS team with bed-wetting teammates).

Since Lebron can't carry teams, he needs dominant, elite scorers at sidekick that can match his scoring for entire playoff runs and take defensive attention away, while also outplaying league MVP or FMVP's, aka 11' Bosh, 16' Kyrie, 11' Wade or 20' AD.. Only Lebron had teammates outplay league MVP's or FMVP's (the most help possible) because his brand of ball is woat.

NBA.com link to time of possession stats here (https://www.nba.com/stats/players/touches/?sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1)

[SouBeachTalents]

So you’ve said

[3ba11]

So you’ve said


so it IS...

NBA.com link to time of possession stats here (https://www.nba.com/stats/players/touches/?sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1)

[Kblaze8855]

So you’ve said



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[SouBeachTalents]

^ GREAT movie btw

[3ba11]

^ GREAT movie btw


lol.. you guys are lame

[Kblaze8855]

I have it on my so bad it’s entertaining list alongside Starship Troopers.

[j3lademaster]

I have it on my so bad it’s entertaining list alongside Starship Troopers.Does that list include this movie?

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[SouBeachTalents]

I have it on my so bad it’s entertaining list alongside Starship Troopers.
At the very least, I give them credit for trying something new. Anything beats ANOTHER movie where he’s chasing teens at the lake. And it’s a marked improvement over the previous one which was complete gahbage.

[Kblaze8855]

Hate to say it but most of Martins movies could fall into either that category or downright bad. I’ve not seen that in too long to remember but I don’t recall it being good. I feel like the movie where he had to pretend to be a cop to get some diamonds he stole may have been though.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

lol.. you guys are lame

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[j3lademaster]

Hate to say it but most of Martins movies could fall into either that category or downright bad. I’ve not seen that in too long to remember but I don’t recall it being good. I feel like the movie where he had to pretend to be a cop to get some diamonds he stole may have been though.Blue Streak. Yeah that one was fun. I think Nothing to Lose and Bad Boys are the only Martin flicks I'd recommend to people as 'good' movies. Maybe Life.

[Kblaze8855]

I’m not sure I wouldn’t call Life the best comedy of its time.

[BarberSchool]

Time of possession stats are only as good or bad as:

1. Team offensive efficiency during said time of possession

2. Team chemistry / role player morale

[Ne 1]

How come no one else in the league has 4 titles then

[3ba11]

How come no one else in the league has 4 titles then


Lebron was a "first-mover" in the colluding space

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/firstmover.asp


His "not 6, not 7" collusions stole organic chips from Durant in 2012, and then Duncan/Curry after that..

He killed the natural competitive environment by ruining the MJ path that Durant was on in 2012 and then ruining Curry's organic repeat in 16' - both Durant and Curry would be higher on the all-time ranks if they won with Westbrook and repeated, respectively..

However, Lebron's hand-picked preseason favorites fell to Finals underdog or loser for 6 straight years (11-16').. This confirms a bad brand of ball - when the on-paper talent favorite falls to underdog, that means the brand of ball was poor.

[3ba11]

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HOLD-TIME PER GAME (in minutes)



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^^^ Lebron starts at forward but then becomes a 2nd point guard on the floor (2nd player with a point guard hold-time)..

These 2 point guard lineups give teammates less hold-time, points and assists than they get in traditional 1 point guard lineups, so the TEAM has low assists and a brand that struggles on the championship level ... The inferior brand includes poor teammate fits, chemistry and inferior strategy or low team assists... The common thread in Lebron's Finals losses is massive deficits in team assists.

Ultimately, Lebron was a "first-mover" in the colluding space.. The "not 6, not 7" collusions stole organic chips from Durant in 2012, and then Duncan/Curry after that.

He killed the natural competitive environment by ruining the MJ path that Durant was on in 2012 and then ruining Curry's organic repeat in 16' - both Durant and Curry would be higher on the all-time ranks if they won with Westbrook and repeated, respectively..

However, Lebron's hand-picked preseason favorites fell to Finals underdog or loser for 6 straight years (11-16').. This confirms a bad brand of ball - when the on-paper talent favorite falls to underdog, that means the brand of ball was poor (see the hold-time stats above).

[StrongLurk]

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https://www.nba.com/stats/players/touches/?sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1
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HOLD-TIME PER GAME (in minutes)



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^^^ Lebron starts at forward but then becomes a 2nd point guard on the floor (2nd player with a point guard hold-time)..

These 2 point guard lineups give teammates less hold-time, points and assists than they get in traditional 1 point guard lineups, so the TEAM has low assists and a brand that struggles on the championship level ... The inferior brand includes poor teammate fits, chemistry and inferior strategy or low team assists... The common thread in Lebron's Finals losses is massive deficits in team assists.

Ultimately, Lebron was a "first-mover" in the colluding space.. The "not 6, not 7" collusions stole organic chips from Durant in 2012, and then Duncan/Curry after that.

He killed the natural competitive environment by ruining the MJ path that Durant was on in 2012 and then ruining Curry's organic repeat in 16' - both Durant and Curry would be higher on the all-time ranks if they won with Westbrook and repeated, respectively..

However, Lebron's hand-picked preseason favorites fell to Finals underdog or loser for 6 straight years (11-16').. This confirms a bad brand of ball - when the on-paper talent favorite falls to underdog, that means the brand of ball was poor (see the hold-time stats above).

Do you think Lebron/his teams would've been better served if he actually played PG his whole career? Perhaps similar to the 2020 Lakers where Lebron was often the legit PG on offense?

Just curious to see your opinion on how Lebron should've best implemented his skill-set/athletic talents.