Does Kawhi have an argument for greatest offensive anchor in NBA history?

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

During Kawhi's peak years 2017-present when he peaks offensively similar to bird did later in his career. Kawhi constantly doing GOAT offensive shit:

2017: +16 offensive on\off in the playoffs with a 121 team offensive rating when on court


2019: +18.7 offensive on\off in the playoffs. He led Raptors to a 114 offensive rating despite no 20PPG scorers and washed up fat shit marc gasol logging major minutes. Gasol the two playoff years after this would go on to average 5.8PPG on 42% FG and be a complete liability on offense. On top of that, he had to face the #1 defense in Giannis bucks and the jaw dropping defensive trio of simmons\butler\embiid.


2021: Regular season he led clippers to a 123 offensive rating which could hold up with just about any player in NBA history for a regular season.

[Westbrook_Fan]

2020?

[1987_Lakers]

He has an argument for being the least valuable superstar ever.

Spurs, Raptors, & Clippers all won games without him.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

2020?

clippers ended the season at Off Rtg: 113.9 (2nd of 30)

when kawhi was on the court, they were at 118.4 which would put them well ahead of everybody else. Clippers were looking like the best team in the league until corona and the bubble ruined things.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

He has an argument for being the least valuable superstar ever.

Spurs, Raptors, & Clippers all won games without him.

spurs 1st round exit to an 8th seed

raptors swept in 2nd round

The year prior to goat kawhi arriving.

Luka also sweeps clippers if it wasn't for kawhi. Luka didn't even have enough respect for George to shake his hand at the end of game 7, he told him to f*ck off after the offered jersey swap.

[Kblaze8855]

Not the least bit of one no.

[Real Men Wear Green]

That depends on whether or not you're a ****ing idiot.

[FultzNationRISE]

Only way you could say Kawhi has an argument is if Lebron changes his name to Kawhi.

[Spurs m8]

What's wrong with this guy?

Apart from his racism....

[BarberSchool]

No.

Nope.

Not.
Even.
Close.

Are you actively trying to diminish Kawhi actual achievements by starting ridiculous threads like this ?

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Not the least bit of one no.


That depends on whether or not you're a ****ing idiot.

who else is going to win the championship with raptors? go watch it again.

Raptors in game 6 were losing to bucks by 20 points until kawhi took over. He had 40% usage that game. He also played flawlessly in game 5.

Then score 40 points with 48% usage and a buzzer beater in game 7 vs a mega stacked 76ers super team

He pretty much had 1 bad game the entire playoffs and that was a 1st round game against the magic because he got sick.

Then beat curry\draymond the modern day jordan\pippen


I fail to see any other player filling his shoes that year. Definitely not playing today.

[tpols]

If Kawhi could do what he does full time he'd have a case for GOAT. But he has load managed his entire prime. Sat out with the Spurs. Sat out with the Raptors. Sat out with the Clippers. He's been sitting out half his games for like 8 years. Id imagine its better to play well when you're fresh. He just doesn't have a warrior mentality, only concerned with his next money deal so that disqualifies OPs hypothesis for me.

[BarberSchool]

If Kawhi could do what he does full time he'd have a case for GOAT. But he has load managed his entire prime. Sat out with the Spurs. Sat out with the Raptors. Sat out with the Clippers. He's been sitting out half his games for like 8 years. He just doesn't have a warrior mentality, only concerned with his next money deal so that disqualifies OPs hypothesis for me.He has the mentality of an autistic teenager, who can be a truly all-time-great soldier, when someone with a general mentality and mental ability is making the decisions for him.

Problem is, he began delegating career direction decisions away from Pop, towards his half-retard uncle. That’s when all this started happening.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

What's wrong with this guy?

Apart from his racism....

Look at his closeout games vs 76ers and bucks in 2019

Game 7 2nd round: 40 points, 48% usage, buzzer beater game winner

Game 6 3rd round: 27 points, 40% usage, 17 rebounds (4ORB like hes shaq), 7 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks

[Real Men Wear Green]

who else is going to win the championship with raptors? go watch it again.


I don't like watching injury replays sorry. TO needed him to win the East. They didn't need him to beat the Warriors who had the worst finals injury luck in NBA history. And you not only know this but you know it is what you will be told. You are a inositol tell in that most tells don't latch on to a guy with no aim Kent but you are still a god-awful waste of space.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

If Kawhi could do what he does full time he'd have a case for GOAT. But he has load managed his entire prime. Sat out with the Spurs. Sat out with the Raptors. Sat out with the Clippers. He's been sitting out half his games for like 8 years. Id imagine its better to play well when you're fresh. He just doesn't have a warrior mentality, only concerned with his next money deal so that disqualifies OPs hypothesis for me.

That's a myth actually.

2020 he's logging 1848 total minutes. The MVP Giannis logged 1917 minutes.

2021 he's logging 1773 total minutes. Runner up MVP Embiid logged just 1585 minutes

He also can't help that Zaza\Durant like to stick their legs under him when he's shooting. Or Ingles likes to shove him while he's running in the middle of a 20 point blowout in 4th quarter.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

I don't like watching injury replays sorry. TO needed him to win the East. They didn't need him to beat the Warriors who had the worst finals injury luck in NBA history. And you not only know this but you know it is what you will be told. You are a inositol tell in that most tells don't latch on to a guy with no aim Kent but you are still a god-awful waste of space.

They barely squeezed it out in game 6 and kawhi for the series averaged 29\10\4\2\1 for the series. I call complete bullshit raptors win it without him, in fact they get swept. The presence of Kawhi is what put fear into Curry.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

He has the mentality of an autistic teenager, who can be a truly all-time-great soldier, when someone with a general mentality and mental ability is making the decisions for him.

Problem is, he began delegating career direction decisions away from Pop, towards his half-retard uncle. That’s when all this started happening.

he already has 2 finals MVPS. Kareem only ended up with 2 and played til 40 years old.

[tpols]

He has the mentality of an autistic teenager, who can be a truly all-time-great soldier, when someone with a general mentality and mental ability is making the decisions for him.

Problem is, he began delegating career direction decisions away from Pop, towards his half-retard uncle. That’s when all this started happening.

Yea I think a lot of that is about the money though. His uncle will obviously incentivize profits. So if Kawhi has a small sprain in the playoffs or any time really for that matter, his financial team will have him sit so he doesn't miss out on potentially 100s of millions of dollars if he were to suffer a more catastrophic injury and not be able to fetch max deal. So its all about money with him even though he's already filthy rich. I suspect that's because his financial handlers (like his uncle you mentioned) have a slice of the pie and aren't willing to give up more future slices.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Yea I think a lot of that is about the money though. His uncle will obviously incentivize profits. So if Kawhi has a small sprain in the playoffs or any time really for that matter, his financial team will have him sit so he doesn't miss out on potentially 100s of millions of dollars if he were to suffer a more catastrophic injury and not be able to fetch max deal. So its all about money with him even though he's already filthy rich. I suspect that's because his financial handlers (like his uncle you mentioned) have a slice of the pie and aren't willing to give up more future slices.


Also have to remember how tough kawhi has it. His dad was murdered when he was 16. He could of became an unhinged psychopath like Aaron Hernandez.

He wasn't born with a golden spoon in his mouth and the perfect dad like Stephen curry

[LeCola]

NO.

[r0drig0lac]

That depends on whether or not you're a ****ing idiot.

:lol

[tontoz]

Anchor? Anchored to his couch. Over the last 5 years he has missed more games than he's played.

[k0kakw0rld]

Kawhi is my guy (simply for winning the Raptors a ring) however, he's getting massively overrated I am afraid.

[tontoz]

Kawhi is my guy (simply for winning the Raptors a ring) however, he's getting massively overrated I am afraid.

No need to be afraid. The Raps were winning 50+ before he got there and after he left.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Anchor? Anchored to his couch. Over the last 5 years he has missed more games than he's played.


Sitting on the couch and still has 2 more finals mvps then curry. Still eliminating and out playing curry in the finals as well.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

No need to be afraid. The Raps were winning 50+ before he got there and after he left.

Swept in the 2nd round fired their coach and lost their best player derozan.

76ers sweep raptors without goat kawhi

Kawhi also has anchored elite offenses with 3 different coaches, not sucking on kerr's dick his entire life

[tontoz]

Sitting on the couch and still has 2 more finals mvps then curry. Still eliminating and out playing curry in the finals as well.


Playing on stacked teams his whole career, when he actually plays.

[hold this L]

Most babied superstar throughout his career for sure.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Kawhi is my guy (simply for winning the Raptors a ring) however, he's getting massively overrated I am afraid.

We can discuss that if siakam ever stops embarrassing himself in the playoffs. Right now he is negative BPM every playoffs besides 2019

[hold this L]

Anchor? Anchored to his couch. Over the last 5 years he has missed more games than he's played.

https://c.tenor.com/fWg9gm1CrdYAAAAC/lebron-james-crying.gif

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Playing on stacked teams his whole career, when he actually plays.


Most babied superstar throughout his career for sure.

Never even played with 1 superstar top 10 player in their prime. The closest is Paul George and he's similar tier to Klay Thompson.

You got Klay George + draymond green

Both Klay and dray are also better then anybody on that 2019 raptors roster

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Playing with Durant and claiming others afe spoiled.

I didn't think curry fans are this stupid. I guess it doesn't take high IQ to be cheering for a finals mvp less cuck who runs around screens chucking 3's hahahah

[tontoz]

Playing with Durant and claiming others afe spoiled.

I didn't think curry fans are this stupid. I guess it doesn't take high IQ to be cheering for a finals mvp less cuck who runs around screens chucking 3's hahahah

He is the only unanimous MVP in league history. He made GS into a dynasty, something Kawhi could never do.

[Shogon]

Not the least bit of one no.


That depends on whether or not you're a ****ing idiot.


For ****'s sake Jeff, unleash the mods. Let them be free.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

He is the only unanimous MVP in league history. He made GS into a dynasty, something Kawhi could never do.

What by winning 1 ring? Kawhi did that in 1 season

Or by being friends with Durant? Those are equal to kawhi's 14 and 13 finals runs

[tontoz]

What by winning 1 ring? Kawhi did that in 1 season

Or by being friends with Durant? Those are equal to kawhi's 14 and 13 finals runs


Duncan had 4 rings before Kawhi got there. Duncan was the centerpiece of their dynasty. Kawhi was just lucky they drafted him.

GS was garbage before Steph got there. They won 73 games for an all time record without KD which is what led KD to join them.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Duncan had 4 rings before Kawhi got there. Duncan was the centerpiece of their dynasty. Kawhi was just lucky they drafted him.

GS was garbage before Steph got there. They won 73 games for an all time record without KD which is what led KD to join them.

Duncan was far past his prime and 37 years old. He just got knocked out in the 1st round by an 8th seed the year prior. Kawhi averaged 24PPG to Duncan's 12PPG in the 3 straight 2014 finals wins. Won MVP as well.

Durant was in the middle of his peak and won both finals MVPS over Curry.

They had the biggest choke in nba history the year before Durant got there as well. 3-1 blown finals lead in a 73 win season.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

So Kawhi has anchored multiple elite offenses in the regular season, had the greatest offensive carry job in nba playoff history when he had to put Marc Gasol's inept offensive ass on his shoulders and score 732 points on 62% TS. I just don't see anybody matching this caliber of impact on the offense game.

Lebron: even admits himself he's not a score first player

Magic: Worse scorer then Lebron, always had kareem for majority of his success

Curry: too small, no finals mvps, always had durant\dray\klay

Jordan: relying on fancy gimmicks like the triangle offense and always had pippen

[Axe]

I will never forget op for always shitting on the raptors and hyping kawhi too much, two silly ass things that he did here first under his hbk handle. One of the worst trolls back in the day for sure. Good riddance.