How many PPG would Hakeem avg in today's NBA?

[nineiron]

Prime Hakeem, How many?

[Spurs m8]

Whatever his average was, multiplied by 1.5....

That seems to be a fairly decent measure tbh

[HoopsNY]

30-33 PPG on high efficiency. He would have developed a three point shot in this era and dominate on defense. I would have loved to see the evolution of Hakeem in today's game.

[Phoenix]

30-33 PPG on high efficiency. He would have developed a three point shot in this era and dominate on defense. I would have loved to see the evolution of Hakeem in today's game.

Thing is, he wouldn't even 'need' to do that to drop high numbers. Embiid is doing 30ppg this year hitting 1.5 threes a night. I'm just having visions of Hakeem on the block surrounded by 3point snipers. And defensively he had the athleticism to adapt to today's switch-heavy schemes.

[HoopsNY]

Thing is, he wouldn't even 'need' to do that to drop high numbers. Embiid is doing 30ppg this year hitting 1.5 threes a night. I'm just having visions of Hakeem on the block surrounded by 3point snipers. And defensively he had the athleticism to adapt to today's switch-heavy schemes.

Definitely....we already saw shades of it, though, in 1994 (before the shortened three point line) when he shot 8-19 from deep (42%). Intuition tells me he would have attempted more in this era and shot around the 30-33% clip. 32/14/5/3 on 54% sounds about right for Hakeem in this era. Give him snipers and he probably averages more assists, especially with a higher pace.

[Phoenix]

Definitely....we already saw shades of it, though, in 1994 (before the shortened three point line) when he shot 8-19 from deep (42%). Intuition tells me he would have attempted more in this era and shot around the 30-33% clip. 32/14/5/3 on 54% sounds about right for Hakeem in this era. Give him snipers and he probably averages more assists, especially with a higher pace.

Yeah he would have because the game kind of dictates that you do nowadays. Hakeem had a good mid-range, coming up in 2022 he's in an era where no-one bats an eye at players over 6'10 shooting 3's.

[Jasper]

sorry to say this , but these type of threads are stupid ...
What is ISH supposed to say --- he'd kill them and score 100 every game.

Or wrong era , he would get smashed by our young bucks.

/

[j3lademaster]

Thing is, he wouldn't even 'need' to do that to drop high numbers. Embiid is doing 30ppg this year hitting 1.5 threes a night. I'm just having visions of Hakeem on the block surrounded by 3point snipers. And defensively he had the athleticism to adapt to today's switch-heavy schemes.I think his post game would be less developed in favor of letting him take guys off the dribble. Hakeem had some filthy dribble moves for his size and the fact that bigs didn't really practice them back then.

[j3lademaster]

sorry to say this , but these type of threads are stupid ...
What is ISH supposed to say --- he'd kill them and score 100 every game.

Or wrong era , he would get smashed by our young bucks.

/Or just be reasonable about it. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he'd be on par with Embiid or Jokic offensively. I think Jokic will still be better offensively due to passing, but he won't bring the defense Hakeem's capable of.

[Bronbron23]

Prime Hakeem, How many?

Honestly it's impossible to say. Just depends what team, coach and system he's in. To entertain the question though i say 2-3 pts more.

[Im Still Ballin]

A lighter, shorter, but more athletic and more skilled Embiid.

Comfortably better on defense, a little better on offense.

Until Embiid can back up his regular-season play in the playoffs, I give Hakeem the offensive edge.

This is no disrespect to Joel; he and Jokic are right there with the greatest centers of all time. That's how good these two are.

[iamgine]

Hakeem didn't really score a lot until he was 30 years old. In fact, he was often outscored by the likes of Dale Ellis, Tony Campbell, Terry Cummings.

Even at his peak, which lasted exactly 2 seasons, he was playing like 40 minutes a game. He won't be playing that many minutes in this era so I feel any gain from the faster pace would be lost to the minutes.

[Smook A.]

Prime Hakeem in this era would've probably developed a 3 point shot, kinda like Embiid. That being said, I think he would've easily been putting up 28-30 ppg on over 50% shooting along with 13 rpg and 3-4 bpg. An absolute nightmare on both ends and probably the best player in the league

[ImKobe]

30-35 ppg, depending on how much the offense needs him to score. I think he would have developed his playmaking more in this era and been like a 30/12/6 guy with ATG defense at his peak. The spacing in today's league allows him to get the ball out to more shooters and obviously players attempt way more of those catch & shoot 3s in this era, and he was already ahead of the league at the time as a big who created all those perimeter shots for his team.

Back in '94, the Rockets were #1 in 3PA and 3PM with Hakeem creating a ton of those open looks, it would be on steroids in this era. '94 Hakeem led his team in pts, reb, ast, stl & blk in the POs.

[Sulico]

That depends on his team and coach.

Hakeem didn't have touch as soft as Jokic does, but if he would be forcing his shots like Embiid does, he would absolutely be able to score 30 PPG. Not more though, unless he would be surrounded by scrubs on a bad team.

[Shogon]

Whatever his average was, multiplied by 1.5....

That seems to be a fairly decent measure tbh


This is an absolutely brain dead take. Beyond brain dead. Mouthbreathing moron not worthy of humanity's resources take.

The scoring leader in 1995 was Shaq @ 29.3.
The scoring leader in 2022 is Joel @ 30.4.

And that's just looking at the very tip top

So is your contention that both Shaq would be scoring 45 per game in today's league and Joel would be scoring 20 per game in 1995?

Would the entire 90s roster be scoring 1.5 in 2022? And the entire 2022 roster being scoring 2/3rds in 1995?

Or is there some magically inherent trait about Hakeem's scoring in which he would be boosted up today?

Now, don't walk back your statement, prepare some mental gymnastics as usual, and further cement your retardation.

You know you want to.

Do it.

[tpols]

This is an absolutely brain dead take. Beyond brain dead. Mouthbreathing moron not worthy of humanity's resources take.

The scoring leader in 1995 was Shaq @ 29.3.
The scoring leader in 2022 is Joel @ 30.4.

And that's just looking at the very tip top

So is your contention that both Shaq would be scoring 45 per game in today's league and Joel would be scoring 20 per game in 1995?

Would the entire 90s roster be scoring 1.5 in 2022? And the entire 2022 roster being scoring 2/3rds in 1995?

Or is there some magically inherent trait about Hakeem's scoring in which he would be boosted up today?

Now, don't walk back your statement, prepare some mental gymnastics as usual, and further cement your retardation.

You know you want to.

Do it.

Yea that's over doing it on Hakeems end because its really hard to get past 35 ppg or so but Embiid definitely might have averaged low 20s in the 90s. The center competition was unreal back then. Hakeem was a much better basketball player than Embiid.

[ShawkFactory]

This is an absolutely brain dead take. Beyond brain dead. Mouthbreathing moron not worthy of humanity's resources take.

The scoring leader in 1995 was Shaq @ 29.3.
The scoring leader in 2022 is Joel @ 30.4.

And that's just looking at the very tip top

So is your contention that both Shaq would be scoring 45 per game in today's league and Joel would be scoring 20 per game in 1995?

Would the entire 90s roster be scoring 1.5 in 2022? And the entire 2022 roster being scoring 2/3rds in 1995?

Or is there some magically inherent trait about Hakeem's scoring in which he would be boosted up today?

Now, don't walk back your statement, prepare some mental gymnastics as usual, and further cement your retardation.

You know you want to.

Do it.

He's not going to acknowledge this post in any way.

[Johnny32]

Yea that's over doing it on Hakeems end because its really hard to get past 35 ppg or so but Embiid definitely might have averaged low 20s in the 90s. The center competition was unreal back then. Hakeem was a much better basketball player than Embiid.

lol embarrassingly low bball iq post.

[j3lademaster]

I think something like 25-27/10/5 with Giannis type defense is fair. Hakeem would have less blocks today with more advanced offensive schemes designed to lure out rim protectors. Hakeem has the quick feet and athleticism so sticking on a perimeter player won't be a problem for him, but his defensive stats will suffer.