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3ba11
04-07-2022, 10:12 PM
So why did the favored Lebron form super-teams, while Jordan toughed it out as an underdog and overcame a prime dynasty??.... Isiah, Dumars & Rodman were 27-29 years old in 1991.

Jordan was infact the underdog that had a good reason to team-hop for multiple star teammates, while Lebron was the favorite with aging rivals and a wide open conference for the next decade (East was trash until Giannis entered his prime).

Westbrook_Fan
04-07-2022, 10:15 PM
Why did Jordan go 1-9 without Pippen, lose with an all-star teammate in 1990 and 1995, and also miss the playoffs in his 14th and 15th seasons?

Johnny32
04-07-2022, 10:33 PM
jordone didn't tough shit out.

THOMAS' INJURY SIGNALS FINISH OF PISTONS' REIGN

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1991-01-26-9101260190-story.html

isiah got injured in jan and was never the same again. he later called this injury the real end of his career. if that wasn't enough the nba changed the flagrant foul rule to help the soft ass bulls beat det. oh and duh bulls were 3-1 favs to beat det in the ecf.

lol this clown is clueless as fk.

GimmeThat
04-07-2022, 10:37 PM
why does medical advancement actually pro-longs the life of everyone

3ba11
04-07-2022, 10:48 PM
jordone didn't tough shit out.

THOMAS' INJURY SIGNALS FINISH OF PISTONS' REIGN

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1991-01-26-9101260190-story.html

isiah got injured in jan and was never the same again. he later called this injury the real end of his career. if that wasn't enough the nba changed the flagrant foul rule to help the soft ass bulls beat det. oh and duh bulls were 3-1 favs to beat det in the ecf.

lol this clown is clueless as fk.


Isiah was fine after the injury but the Bulls had developed a superior brand of ball based on finesse and ball movement that rendered the Pistons' brand helpless - that's why the Pistons were uncompetitive in 92' despite Dumars/Rodman peaking - the physical brand that helped them cut the talent gap with the Celtics/Lakers was now usurped by a better brand.

That's what organic winners do - it's an evolution of increasingly superior brands of ball.... until Lebron started the collusion era of talent-based winning (all-star team strategy)

Johnny32
04-07-2022, 10:53 PM
Isiah was fine after the injury

the headline by an actual nba reporter suggests you're full of shit, per usual. as does thomas calling the injury the real end of his career.

3ba11
04-07-2022, 11:49 PM
the headline by an Joe the Plumber with journalism degree suggests you're full of shit, per usual. as does thomas calling the injury the real end of his career.


No ankle injury ever derailed a player's career at 29 years old

Kyrie had a worse injury last year and he's been dropping 50 this year.

So my previous post stands

Westbrook_Fan
04-08-2022, 12:37 AM
Why did Jordan go 1-9 without Pippen, lose with an all-star teammate in 1990 and 1995, and also miss the playoffs in his 14th and 15th seasons?

3ball?

Shaquille O'Neal
04-08-2022, 12:41 AM
So why did the favored Lebron form super-teams, while Jordan toughed it out as an underdog and overcame a prime dynasty??.... Isiah, Dumars & Rodman were 27-29 years old in 1991.

Jordan was infact the underdog that had a good reason to team-hop for multiple star teammates, while Lebron was the favorite with aging rivals and a wide open conference for the next decade (East was trash until Giannis entered his prime).

Agree. The anti-Bulls narrative "Detroit was past its prime" is utter nonsense. When is 27-29 past the prime? It *is* the prime.

TheCorporation
04-08-2022, 01:17 AM
Is having a losing record to 5'11 Isiaiah Thomas "toughing it out"

3ba11
04-08-2022, 02:37 PM
Is having a losing record to 5'11 Isiaiah Thomas "toughing it out"



The 2009 Cavs had the 3rd-ranked defense compared to 19th for the 90' Bulls, while Mo was superior to Pippen offensively across the board (PER, BPM, VORP, WS/48, scoring, efficiency)..

This matters because it means that Lebron had a better team on both sides of the ball, yet Jordan still beat him to titles - Jordan won the following year in 91', while Lebron lost again in 2010 despite adding Jamison/Shaq to a 66-win league favorite.. (Lebron had 21 on 34% in last 3 games to lose a 2-1 lead as league favorite to Rondo-led Celtics)

tpols
04-08-2022, 02:46 PM
The Celtics still had Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Rondo exploding onto the scene in addition to KG. There was no need for one player on the Celtics to take a ton of shots since they essentially had 4 All Star talents. Meanwhile the Lakers only had 2. So Kobe had to put up 30 to win.

Axe
04-08-2022, 03:41 PM
So it took kendrick perkins going down with an injury in game 6 of the 2010 finals for kobe to win his fifth title, damn...

TheGoatest
04-08-2022, 10:53 PM
2010-11 Celtics: 56-26 record
1990-91 Washed Pistons: 50-32 record

:oldlol:

And the hilarious part is that those Celtics aren't even a top 3 team LeBron beat in a playoff series, whereas those blatantly washed Pistons are what jordon extremist alts mention as the best team jordon beat in a playoff series. When they are willing to discuss particular teams jordon beat in a playoff series, that is. :roll:

AirBonner
04-08-2022, 10:57 PM
2010-11 Celtics: 56-26 record
1990-91 Washed Pistons: 50-32 record

:oldlol:

And the hilarious part is that those Celtics aren't even a top 3 team LeBron beat in a playoff series, whereas those blatantly washed Pistons are what jordon extremist alts mention as the best team jordon beat in a playoff series. When they are willing to discuss particular teams jordon beat in a playoff series, that is. :roll:
Facts brotha

Axe
04-09-2022, 02:55 AM
2010-11 Celtics: 56-26 record
1990-91 Washed Pistons: 50-32 record

:oldlol:

And the hilarious part is that those Celtics aren't even a top 3 team LeBron beat in a playoff series, whereas those blatantly washed Pistons are what jordon extremist alts mention as the best team jordon beat in a playoff series. When they are willing to discuss particular teams jordon beat in a playoff series, that is. :roll:
You know it's horrible when you keep reminding people itb that the joke of the 90s still haunts your poor soul up to these days. :ohwell:

3ba11
04-09-2022, 01:55 PM
2011 Celtics: 56-26 record
1990-91 Washed Pistons: 50-32 record

:oldlol:

And the hilarious part is that those Celtics aren't even a top 3 team LeBron beat in a playoff series, whereas those blatantly washed Pistons are what jordon extremist alts mention as the best team jordon beat in a playoff series. When they are willing to discuss particular teams jordon beat in a playoff series, that is. :roll:


the Bad Boys were 29 years old when Jordan beat them and the Celtics were 36 years old when Lebron beat them

If Lebron never formed super-teams, the East would've been won by 0-star teams like Horford's Hawks or Oladipo Pacers or PG Pacers, so Lebron succeeded in 15' but failed in 09/10.. In 2018, he had the only 2-star team in the conference in and a shoal of Finals veterans (big advantage over 0-star newbie teams)

Super-teams aren't needed to win a conference and never have been.. Only Lebron formed super-teams to win a conference that Dwight was winning by himself