Kawhi Leonard Hasn't Progressed Beyond Individual Workouts

[k0kakw0rld]

The beginning of the end. I really to see this happening to you Klaw.

Things really went south as soon as he turned his back on Toronto. :facepalm

The LA curse

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[John_Connor]

there's an elevated risk of injury if you return from that injury before a full year goes by. they say the longer you wait the better. the clippers aren't winning this year with or without him

a title team needs at least 2 or 3 months playing together to figure things out. the sun's, bucks, Celtics, mavs, warriors and heat are the only teams I can see winning it this year

[1987_Lakers]

there's an elevated risk of injury if you return from that injury before a full year goes by. they say the longer you wait the better. the clippers aren't winning this year with or without him

a title team needs at least 2 or 3 months playing together to figure things out. the sun's, bucks, Celtics, mavs, warriors and heat are the only teams I can see winning it this year
:oldlol:

[FultzNationRISE]

:oldlol:


Mavs are a reasonable darkhorse IMO. Only team I could see buzzsawing them is the Suns. If they can somehow avoid that series or get lucky, I dont see a team in either conference I’d call a no-brainer over the Mavs. Theyve had some nice primetime wins against MIL and BOS recently, obv it’s not the same as the playoffs but they can hang with pretty much anyone.

Everyone on Dallas is playing pretty well right now and they dont have any major injuries. Theyre def not a team to overlook.

[Johnny32]

Team LeLuka.

[Phoenix]

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I wonder if Kawhi has more than 3 seasons left as he approaches 32 ( at least as an MVP level talent). Seems like he's not going to be healthy enough again for a season+ playoffs deep run.

[FultzNationRISE]

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I wonder if Kawhi has more than 3 seasons left as he approaches 32 ( at least as an MVP level talent). Seems like he's not going to be healthy enough again for a season+ playoffs deep run.


His playstyle should translate to reasonable longevity as long as he can actually get on the court and avoid any more serious injuries.

But I wouldnt hold my breath.

[Phoenix]

His playstyle should translate to reasonable longevity as long as he can actually get on the court and avoid any more serious injuries.

But I wouldnt hold my breath.

I wouldn't either....recurring lower body injuries is a bad sign. And it's not like it took him to 30+ to get this way, he was pretty much mid 20's when this started.

[n00bie]

Toronto really dodged a bullet here.

[Shogon]

No one cares about Kawhi.

[Jasper]

who gives a fvck.

I sure don't -- guy with broken body , with broken brain.

[tontoz]

It isn't a contract year so I would be surprised if he plays.

[FireDavidKahn]

Kawhitting again

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

That's probably just the way he prefers to do it. The best in the world can train alone. But when it's time (mid 1st round) the goat will return.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/report-kawhi-leonard-playing-3-on-3-basketball?utm_source=reddit.com

He's playing 3 on 3 now. He has to be showing up to practices for a reason. I'm expecting game 3 1st round baba

[k0kakw0rld]

https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/report-kawhi-leonard-playing-3-on-3-basketball?utm_source=reddit.com

He's playing 3 on 3 now. He has to be showing up to practices for a reason. I'm expecting game 3 1st round baba

Clippers are going to lose to the Pelicans for the 8th seed.

[Phoenix]

Update:

Nobody cares about Kawhit except that little cuck HBK_Klit.

[tontoz]

Clippers are going to lose to the Pelicans for the 8th seed.

If this was a contract year Kawhi would have played against Minny.

[hold this L]

Update:

Nobody cares about Kawhit except that little cuck HBK_Klit.

Not surprising considering he's the most boring superstar in NBA history. Klit is probably uncle Dennis in disguise.

[RRR3]

Not surprising considering he's the most boring superstar in NBA history. Klit is probably uncle Dennis in disguise.
Talk about picking the wrong player to stan. He never has any backup :lol. People don’t really have neutral opinions on guys like LeBron or Kobe or Steph, they tend to be either loved or hated. Kawhi? No one cares.

[Spurs m8]

Not surprising considering he's the most boring superstar in NBA history. Klit is probably uncle Dennis in disguise.

Makes the most sense

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Not surprising considering he's the most boring superstar in NBA history. Klit is probably uncle Dennis in disguise.

running around screens chucking up 3's and never winning any finals mvps and being a frontrunner is pretty damn boring as well i would say.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Talk about picking the wrong player to stan. He never has any backup :lol. People don’t really have neutral opinions on guys like LeBron or Kobe or Steph, they tend to be either loved or hated. Kawhi? No one cares.

Nobody cared about quiet players like Kareem or Duncan either, not sure what your point is.

[Spurs m8]

running around screens chucking up 3's and never winning any finals mvps and being a frontrunner is pretty damn boring as well i would say.

Shut up, Dennis

[Loco 50]

Shocked that Nephew will miss another entire season.

[Axe]

running around screens chucking up 3's and never winning any finals mvps and being a frontrunner is pretty damn boring as well i would say.
Now that's sensible at least.

[Phoenix]

running around screens chucking up 3's and never winning any finals mvps and being a frontrunner is pretty damn boring as well i would say.

Can you show us an example of Kawhit building a team from nothing to a title contender?

-Joined a Spurs team that was winning 60 games a year and had won 4 titles
-Joined a Raptors team that was winning 59 games a year and a 2nd round/ECF team
-Joined a Clippers team that won 48 games and playoffs without a single all-star or all-NBA team

Definitely of a 'cherry on the top' frontrunner needing already built teams. He has zero leadership skills needed to galvanize the troops.

Dallas was a 24 win team the year Luka joined. They're now a 52 win without a single second all-star on the roster ( and would have damn near been a 50 win team his 2nd year if not for covid fukking up the season). Drop Kawhi on a 20 win team and let's see what he does. Otherwise STFU Dennis...

[k0kakw0rld]

Can you show us an example of Kawhit building a team from nothing to a title contender?

-Joined a Spurs team that was winning 60 games a year and had won 4 titles
-Joined a Raptors team that was winning 59 games a year and a 2nd round/ECF team
-Joined a Clippers team that won 48 games and playoffs without a single all-star or all-NBA team

Definitely of a 'cherry on the top' frontrunner needing already built teams. He has zero leadership skills needed to galvanize the troops.

Dallas was a 24 win team the year Luka joined. They're now a 52 win without a single second all-star on the roster ( and would have damn near been a 50 win team his 2nd year if not for covid fukking up the season). Drop Kawhi on a 20 win team and let's see what he does. Otherwise STFU Dennis...

Kawhi is my guy but facts!

[iamgine]

Can you show us an example of Kawhit building a team from nothing to a title contender?

-Joined a Spurs team that was winning 60 games a year and had won 4 titles
-Joined a Raptors team that was winning 59 games a year and a 2nd round/ECF team
-Joined a Clippers team that won 48 games and playoffs without a single all-star or all-NBA team

Definitely of a 'cherry on the top' frontrunner needing already built teams. He has zero leadership skills needed to galvanize the troops.

Dallas was a 24 win team the year Luka joined. They're now a 52 win without a single second all-star on the roster ( and would have damn near been a 50 win team his 2nd year if not for covid fukking up the season). Drop Kawhi on a 20 win team and let's see what he does. Otherwise STFU Dennis...

That Spurs team lost in the 1st round to Memphis though.

I mean, taking a team from 1st round to championship doesn't seem too 'cherry on top' to me.

[tontoz]

That Spurs team lost in the 1st round to Memphis though.

I mean, taking a team from 1st round to championship doesn't seem too 'cherry on top' to me.


That team won 61 games and their big 3 already had rings. The most games they ever won with Kawhi was 67 and they lost in the 2nd round that year.

[iamgine]

That team won 61 games and their big 3 already had rings. The most games they ever won with Kawhi was 67 and they lost in the 2nd round that year.

Lost in the 1st round though.

[tontoz]

Lost in the 1st round though.


Having a bad series doesn't change the fact that they were a very good team. Dallas lost in the 1st round the year before they won the title. So what?

[iamgine]

Having a bad series doesn't change the fact that they were a very good team. Dallas lost in the 1st round the year before they won the title. So what?

That's what I said. Taking a good team from 1st round to championship doesn't seem too 'cherry on top' to me.

[tontoz]

That's what I said. Taking a good team from 1st round to championship doesn't seem too 'cherry on top' to me.

It is when that team won 61 games and already has rings.

Dallas went from 55 wins and a first round exit to 57 wins and a title. Sometimes a team has a bad series or has a bad matchup. That doesn't change the fact that they were already a good team when they lost in the first round.

That is completely different from going to a crap team and turning them into a title contender.

[iamgine]

It is when that team won 61 games and already has rings.

Dallas went from 55 wins and a first round exit to 57 wins and a title. Sometimes a team has a bad series or has a bad matchup. That doesn't change the fact that they were already a good team when they lost in the first round.

That is completely different from going to a crap team and turning them into a title contender.

which was why Dallas was called a miracle run. Bad example.

[tontoz]

which was why Dallas was called a miracle run. Bad example.

Only 3 teams had a better record than Dallas. That is hardly a miracle. They didn't even face a game 7 in any series.

I am sure they were the favorites in every series except the finals.

[iamgine]

Only 3 teams had a better record than Dallas. That is hardly a miracle. They didn't even face a game 7 in any series.

well people do call it that.

[tontoz]

well people do call it that.


Because they beat the heat in the finals. What "miracle" series win did they have prior to that?

Let's not forget that Memphis wasn't your typical 8 seed. They were 10 games over .500 with Gasol/Conley/Randolph. Over the next 4 seasons they won 63% of their games.

[iamgine]

Because they beat the heat in the finals. What "miracle" series win did they have prior to that?

Let's not forget that Memphis wasn't your typical 8 seed. They were 10 games over .500 with Gasol/Conley/Randolph. Over the next 4 seasons they won 63% of their games.

Nah, no one expected Dallas to win.

Memphis was a good team, but nothing special.

[tontoz]

Nah, no one expected Dallas to win.

Memphis was a good team, but nothing special.


Was anyone shocked they beat a young OKC team? Durant and Russ were only 22. Not a big surprise they lost to a veteran team.

They swept the Lakers. Not exactly a miracle there.

[iamgine]

Was anyone shocked they beat a young OKC team? Durant and Russ were only 22. Not a big surprise they lost to a veteran team.

They swept the Lakers. Not exactly a miracle there.

Their run was shocking people. No one expected Dallas to win.

[tontoz]

Their run was shocking people. No one expected Dallas to win.

Just keep repeating the same nonsense as if repeating it makes it true. :oldlol:

Again, was it shocking they beat Russ/KD at age 22?

[Phoenix]

That Spurs team lost in the 1st round to Memphis though.

I mean, taking a team from 1st round to championship doesn't seem too 'cherry on top' to me.

That doesn't alter my point though. Kawhi at every phase of his career has joined playoff level teams. He's never been in a situation where a franchise was built from the ground up with him as the centrepiece. Furthermore the year after that Memphis loss they went to the conference finals, with Kawhi as an 8ppg rookie.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

That doesn't alter my point though. Kawhi at every phase of his career has joined playoff level teams. He's never been in a situation where a franchise was built from the ground up with him as the centrepiece. Furthermore the year after that Memphis loss they went to the conference finals, with Kawhi as an 8ppg rookie.

2011 spurs how did they do in the playoffs? That was the year before Kawhi was drafted

2018 raptors, did they win any games past the 1st round??

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Paul George tucked in his tail like the coward he is. Worst running mate ever. His name should be in the dictionary when searching BETA

[Phoenix]

It is when that team won 61 games and already has rings.

Dallas went from 55 wins and a first round exit to 57 wins and a title. Sometimes a team has a bad series or has a bad matchup. That doesn't change the fact that they were already a good team when they lost in the first round.

That is completely different from going to a crap team and turning them into a title contender.

He knows that, and trying to be contrarian. The Spurs being upset by Memphis that year doesn't change the fact they were an established dynasty at that point, and more or less annually in the title picture.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

He knows that, and trying to be contrarian. The Spurs being upset by Memphis that year doesn't change the fact they were an established dynasty at that point, and more or less annually in the title picture.

David Robinson's last healthy year with spurs before Duncan was drafted he led them to a 56-26 record

Then he was gifted the greatest backcourt of all time in Parker\Manu

Shaq had Kobe\Wade

Kareem had Oscar\Magic

I fail to see how Kawhi has had more help then any of these guys

[Phoenix]

2011 spurs how did they do in the playoffs? That was the year before Kawhi was drafted

2018 raptors, did they win any games past the 1st round??

How did the 2012 Spurs do in the playoffs, when Kawhi was a 8ppg rookie and not a difference maker? Oh look, the conference finals.

How did the 2020 Raptors do after Kawhi left? They must have folded, surely? Let's see.......nope got to game 7 of the second round.

The Clippers this year much have won about 20 games yeah? I mean Kawhi missed the entire season and PG13 missed most of it. Quick look.......nope the 8th seed. Well when Kawhi went down in the playoffs last year, Clippers must have not won another game, surely? Nope, got to the conference finals.

Oh I know, BEFORE Kawhi got to LA they had to have royally sucked. Nope, 48 wins without an all-star/all-nba player.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-25-2017/al9ICA.gif

[Phoenix]

Paul George tucked in his tail like the coward he is. Worst running mate ever. His name should be in the dictionary when searching BETA

The same running mate that took over when Kawhit went down in the playoffs last year and took them to the conference finals?

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

How did the 2012 Spurs do in the playoffs, when Kawhi was a 8ppg rookie and not a difference maker? Oh look, the conference finals.

How did the 2020 Raptors do after Kawhi left? They must have folded, surely? Let's see.......nope got to game 7 of the second round.

The Clippers this year much have won about 20 games yeah? I mean Kawhi missed the entire season and PG13 missed most of it. Quick look.......nope the 8th seed. Well when Kawhi went down in the playoffs last year, Clippers must have not won another game, surely? Nope, got to the conference finals.

Oh I know, BEFORE Kawhi got to LA they had to have royally sucked. Nope, 48 wins without an all-star/all-nba player.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-25-2017/al9ICA.gif

Kawhi was already 3rd in minutes by 2012, so you can't say he wasn't doing anything that season. But they got embarrassed and backdoor swept by the baby thunder.

Raptors were swept in the 2nd round and fired their coach, bubble ball don't count. They won 27 games last season.

Clippers this season couldn't even beat Karl Anthony Towns in a must win game hahahaaha bums

Kawhi led clippers in VORP and win shares last playoffs despite playing like half of george's minutes. When you get carried to that extent, you should be ready to go and win a few games. Still lost in 6 to suns despite Chris Paul taking two games off.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

The same running mate that took over when Kawhit went down in the playoffs last year and took them to the conference finals?

Who was the VORP\win share leader for playoffs??

Luka sweeps George in the 1st round without kawhi.

[Phoenix]

Who was the VORP\win share leader for playoffs??

Luka sweeps George in the 1st round without kawhi.

Luka also beats Kawhi if they swapped teams. Luka with the Clippers roster Kawhit has squandered the last 3 years? Shiiiiit,,,,,,

[Phoenix]

Kawhi was already 3rd in minutes by 2012, so you can't say he wasn't doing anything that season. But they got embarrassed and backdoor swept by the baby thunder.

Raptors were swept in the 2nd round and fired their coach, bubble ball don't count. They won 27 games last season.

Clippers this season couldn't even beat Karl Anthony Towns in a must win game hahahaaha bums

Kawhi led clippers in VORP and win shares last playoffs despite playing like half of george's minutes. When you get carried to that extent, you should be ready to go and win a few games. Still lost in 6 to suns despite Chris Paul taking two games off.

None of this shit matters to what I said. I said 'Kawhi has never played on a team that wasn't a playoff team without him'. That's the truth of the matter. Now if you wish to nitpick and bring up VORP bullshit knock yourself out, it doesn't change the basic fact that Kawhi has always played with teams that are competitive without him. Unless you have an example of some lotto team that he took to the playoffs, there's nothing to argue. :confusedshrug:

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

None of this shit matters to what I said. I said 'Kawhi has never played on a team that wasn't a playoff team without him'. That's the truth of the matter. Now if you wish to nitpick and bring up VORP bullshit knock yourself out, it doesn't change the basic fact that Kawhi has always played with teams that are competitive without him. Unless you have an example of some lotto team that he took to the playoffs, there's nothing to argue. :confusedshrug:

That's the dumbest shit ever because every team that has won a championship can make the playoffs without its best player, 99.9% of them anyway.

2010 heat won 47 games + added chris bosh

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Luka also beats Kawhi if they swapped teams. Luka with the Clippers roster Kawhit has squandered the last 3 years? Shiiiiit,,,,,,

Strong disagree.

140 offensive rating for Kawhi vs 114 for Luka

and Kawhi is giving you better defense

and kawhi didn't miss a shot in the 4th quarter of all wins

32 on 72% TS, he straight baptized you dog.

Zubac was the main reason that series was so close because luka kept humiliating him on switches. Then Ty Lue benched Zubac and clippers won 3\4 games. Including 3-0 on Luka's homecourt.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Kawhi had a f'n 68% eFG in the series vs mavs last season

Has Wilt or Shaq even done that shit for a full series? F'n insane

[Phoenix]

That's the dumbest shit ever because every team that has won a championship can make the playoffs without its best player, 99.9% of them anyway.

2010 heat won 47 games + added chris bosh

Nothing dumb about it. Every single team that Kawhi has joined were playoff teams. When he takes a lottery cast to the playoffs, when he joins a 25 win team one offseason, and his presence bolsters them into the playoffs the very next year, then that argument is dead. Until then, don't be mad at the facts.

[Spurs m8]

Nothing dumb about it. Every single team that Kawhi has joined were playoff teams. When he takes a lottery cast to the playoffs, when he joins a 25 win team one offseason, and his presence bolsters them into the playoffs the very next year, then that argument is dead. Until then, don't be mad at the facts.

Yep.

Facts are facts...hes always been on good teams

[Phoenix]

Strong disagree.

140 offensive rating for Kawhi vs 114 for Luka

and Kawhi is giving you better defense

and kawhi didn't miss a shot in the 4th quarter of all wins

32 on 72% TS, he straight baptized you dog.

Zubac was the main reason that series was so close because luka kept humiliating him on switches. Then Ty Lue benched Zubac and clippers won 3\4 games. Including 3-0 on Luka's homecourt.

The Clippers ultimately won because they were the better team. Neither series in 2020 or 2021 should have gone 7. Luka dropping 34/9/9 or whatever he dropped with PG13 as his running mate and the rest of Clippers squad is light years better than the Mavs squad outside of Luka.

[Phoenix]

Yep.

Facts are facts...hes always been on good teams

Like, it's not even up for debate that this is the case no matter how much the clown above spins in circles.