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Manny98
04-14-2022, 04:02 PM
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He's heard the noise Simmons is going to be back with a VENGEANCE
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Kawhi_Why_Not
04-14-2022, 04:13 PM
Based on how both teams have played in the 2nd half of the season, the series will be over by then.
But we'll see if celtics choke again
FultzNationRISE
04-14-2022, 04:17 PM
How convenient :oldlol:
They wouldnt wanna start off taking a chance with unknown chemistry anyway, but if it's not going well they can always try him as a contingency plan to save a slipping series.
But only because the "injury" just happens to be healing at an ideal point in the matchup :lol
Real Men Wear Green
04-14-2022, 04:21 PM
Just in time for people to complain he didn't have any time to develop chemistry. How is he going to fit in offensively? He can't play off the ball and no one has ever been installed as the starting point guard for a new team in the playoffs with no previous time with the team. He can help defensively in theory but the Js don't particularly struggle with being defended by him. And can be play major minutes yet? Some Simmons is better than nothing but I don't sees this as series altering if the Nets are down.
Kblaze8855
04-14-2022, 04:31 PM
I’m not sure how long it will take but I suspect people will be reminded that Simmons can score he just won’t shoot. He’s had entire months of 19/10/9. He’s scored 40. He can score. He won’t shoot jumpers and he’s got a mental block about late fame free throws it seems. Not the same thing as not being able to score. With Kyrie, Seth, and KD around him he could be a terror on the break. He’s with one of the few elite lead guards who has willingly volunteered to hand over point guard duties to focus on scoring before. Kyrie asked Harden to play point. The coaches didn’t. They decided it together.
It really could be a dream match its just impossible to say how quickly.
tpols
04-14-2022, 04:36 PM
I like him as a curve ball throw. Celtics have big pressure to win as a 2 seed. Theyre facing Durant, Goku Kyrie, and more though.
tpols
04-14-2022, 04:39 PM
My auto correct edit replaced Goku with Holy. Swear to it. For whatever reason. I feel like that means something.
FultzNationRISE
04-14-2022, 04:39 PM
I’m not sure how long it will take but I suspect people will be reminded that Simmons can score he just won’t shoot. He’s had entire months of 19/10/9. He’s scored 40. He can score. He won’t shoot jumpers and he’s got a mental block about late fame free throws it seems. Not the same thing as not being able to score. With Kyrie, Seth, and KD around him he could be a terror on the break. He’s with one of the few elite lead guards who has willingly volunteered to hand over point guard duties to focus on scoring before. Kyrie asked Harden to play point. The coaches didn’t. They decided it together.
It really could be a dream match its just impossible to say how quickly.
Not in April or May.
tontoz
04-14-2022, 04:40 PM
Hack a Simmons watch
fourkicks44
04-14-2022, 04:49 PM
I still doubt he plays at all and I say there is no chance he plays in Boston.
Best case scenario he plays junk time in a home game. Chances are almost zero.
ImKobe
04-14-2022, 04:52 PM
Really depends on how much they need him. If the Nets go down 1 - 3 in a series, I don't see why they wouldn't try to get Ben out there to at least take a chance on him to see if he can slow down Tatum. But if they're moving along nicely and go up 3 - 1 on Boston, there's no chance he plays any meaningful minutes IMO. Of course they would foul him intentionally and he has no chemistry with those guys on defense either.
Real Men Wear Green
04-14-2022, 05:04 PM
I’m not sure how long it will take but I suspect people will be reminded that Simmons can score he just won’t shoot. He’s had entire months of 19/10/9. He’s scored 40. He can score. He won’t shoot jumpers and he’s got a mental block about late fame free throws it seems. Not the same thing as not being able to score. With Kyrie, Seth, and KD around him he could be a terror on the break. He’s with one of the few elite lead guards who has willingly volunteered to hand over point guard duties to focus on scoring before. Kyrie asked Harden to play point. The coaches didn’t. They decided it together.
It really could be a dream match its just impossible to say how quickly.
Fastbreak he's dangerous but in half-court on that team what does he do outside of the dunker spot? He struggled to fit with Philly last playoffs and he's been with that team for years. Now playing with a bunch of strangers? And have his mental issues been dealt with?
fourkicks44
04-14-2022, 05:15 PM
Fastbreak he's dangerous but in half-court on that team what does he do outside of the dunker spot? He struggled to fit with Philly last playoffs and he's been with that team for years. Now playing with a bunch of strangers? And have his mental issues been dealt with?
Exactly.
Kblaze is right to a degree in his assessment of the player he once was but last time we saw him he not only refused to shoot but refused to score in any capacity.
Get out your "Shoot, Coward" T-shirts.
He ain't playing.
Xiao Yao You
04-14-2022, 05:15 PM
Durant says he hasn't even sprinted yet. Doubt we see him
AlternativeAcc.
04-14-2022, 05:18 PM
That means 10-15 minutes and not late in the 4th
Nets will need him for the 2nd round vs. the Bucks though
Celtics aren't a threat to KD/irving, they'll win in 6 with Ben returning for game 5
Nice
AlternativeAcc.
04-14-2022, 05:21 PM
Read some reports that he's walking around with extreme confidence and swagger. Durant has really been an awesome leader for the Nets. He's getting Ben to imbrace being hated like KD did in GS
There's no pressure for Ben to score or do too much. They just need his elite defense and great playmaking
He's gonna be a Dray-like contributer for the Nets
AlternativeAcc.
04-14-2022, 05:22 PM
Fastbreak he's dangerous but in half-court on that team what does he do outside of the dunker spot? He struggled to fit with Philly last playoffs and he's been with that team for years. Now playing with a bunch of strangers? And have his mental issues been dealt with?
Dribble penetration to elite scorers
He can still finish inside, Durant and Irving demand a lot of attention
He's still elite ball handler and play maker... don't overthink it
Real Men Wear Green
04-14-2022, 05:29 PM
Dribble penetration to elite scorers
He can still finish inside, Durant and Irving demand a lot of attention
He's still elite ball handler and play maker... don't overthink it
So why couldn't he get anything done vs the Hawks, who are a vastly inferior defence to the Celtics? I hear he has a swagger walk now, that's nice, but he hasn't played ball in a long time and the last we saw of him was sad.
AlternativeAcc.
04-14-2022, 05:33 PM
So why couldn't he get anything done vs the Hawks, who are a vastly inferior defence to the Celtics? I hear he has a swagger walk now, that's nice, but he hasn't played ball in a long time and the last we saw of him was sad.
Wasn't a good fit in Philly. He's not a number 2 guy on a championship team. He's a super role player like Draymond
Nets need his defense and occasional play making, they don't need him to be a superstar scorer
Real Men Wear Green
04-14-2022, 05:38 PM
Wasn't a good fit in Philly. He's not a number 2 guy on a championship team. He's a super role player like Draymond
Nets need his defense and occasional play making, they don't need him to be a superstar scorer
Draymond Green isn't a scorer but he's not scared to shoot and gives the Warriors an occasional jumper. You have to be a threat or the opposing team will use your presence on the floor against your teammates. You think the Celtic defense won't take advantage of a ballhandler that can't shoot?
Draymond Green isn't a scorer but he's not scared to shoot and gives the Warriors an occasional jumper. You have to be a threat or the opposing team will use your presence on the floor against your teammates. You think the Celtic defense won't take advantage of a ballhandler that can't shoot?
Yeah but can Draymond walk around with extreme confidence and swagger?
AlternativeAcc.
04-14-2022, 06:02 PM
Draymond Green isn't a scorer but he's not scared to shoot and gives the Warriors an occasional jumper. You have to be a threat or the opposing team will use your presence on the floor against your teammates. You think the Celtic defense won't take advantage of a ballhandler that can't shoot?
Dray gives the Warriors 7ppg
Ben was looked to as a 2nd option in Philly. On the Nets he'll be more of a 4th option scorer. You can't compare the two situations. Ben is a threat with his elite athleticism , ball handling, and passing. Surrounded with elite scorers and shooters we will see him thrive as a super role player
Xiao Yao You
04-14-2022, 06:05 PM
Dray gives the Warriors 7ppg
Ben was looked to as a 2nd option in Philly. On the Nets he'll be more of a 4th option scorer. You can't compare the two situations. Ben is a threat with his elite athleticism , ball handling, and passing. Surrounded with elite scorers and shooters we will see him thrive as a super role player
the problem with that is his ego. He thinks he's one of the greatest players ever. He going to accept super role player? He's always talked a lot bigger game than he actually plays
Kblaze8855
04-14-2022, 06:07 PM
Fastbreak he's dangerous but in half-court on that team what does he do outside of the dunker spot? He struggled to fit with Philly last playoffs and he's been with that team for years. Now playing with a bunch of strangers? And have his mental issues been dealt with?
What does he do? The same thing non shooting points have done for 130 years? We have watched him score more than an awful lot of point guards for years now. He also assisted on more threes than anyone in the nba without Kyrie and KD. He knows how to find a way to contribute. We have really started to act like he’s never played the game. He’s a 3-4 time all star who has had plenty of nights scoring 20 something to 40 with no jumper. He’s gonna create shots for others, dunk, run, shoot little 10 footers, make a hook or two and end up with the same 14-20 he always did with the few outlier 4 or 29 point games.
He’s a tall ass early Celtics Rondo, young Kidd, or any number of guys like that minus their willingness to take 2 threes and miss them both and be guarded the same way make or miss. He had like 20 one of the games in the last series we saw and yet people act like if he scores anything we should be shocked.
His non scoring has been totally overblown. I’ve seen way way way better players than Ben Simmons have like 5 points. Hell 1 point in the case of Kidd. In the playoffs. Those 3 games and a stupid non dunk mean a lot more to memes than a basketball game.
He could be completely mentally broken, shoot 36% from the line, and still score more than any number of guards will who we won’t even talk about. He’s on a team that needs playmaking and dunks out of him. It’s gonna be fine. I promise.
They might win or might lose. No matter what he does he’s gonna take some flack if they lose. Then he plays 14 more years if healthy and not insane and we stop being dramatic.
AlternativeAcc.
04-14-2022, 06:12 PM
the problem with that is his ego. He thinks he's one of the greatest players ever. He going to accept super role player? He's always talked a lot bigger game than he actually plays
Dray has an even bigger ego
You know what guys with egos wanna do? Win. And they'll win with Ben playing to his strengths and letting Durant and Irving do the bulk of the scoring
tpols
04-14-2022, 06:14 PM
The Nets have been using Bruce brown in the dray role when Kyrie or Durant get trapped and he's been averaging big numbers. It would be interesting to see if Simmons is worth replacing him considering hes also their best defender right now, and can actually shoot at least decently by comparison.
Kblaze8855
04-14-2022, 06:21 PM
Exactly.
Kblaze is right to a degree in his assessment of the player he once was but last time we saw him he not only refused to shoot but refused to score in any capacity.
Get out your "Shoot, Coward" T-shirts.
He ain't playing.
When he plays and goes back to his usual low but pretty steady scoring are we still going to be talking about it like it matters because you have an emotional investment in him being perceived as bad? Who in history kept doing the worst thing you ever saw them do? He won’t be the first.
A mentally broken Ben will be of more use than some of you are acting like. He will not score 5ppg for the rest of his career if he goes back to big minutes. He just won’t. So why keep talking about it Like it’s relevant to the future?
He will have games with three points. He will have games with 26 points. He will be the same player in both.
Real Men Wear Green
04-14-2022, 06:43 PM
Dray gives the Warriors 7ppg
Ben was looked to as a 2nd option in Philly. On the Nets he'll be more of a 4th option scorer. You can't compare the two situations. Ben is a threat with his elite athleticism , ball handling, and passing. Surrounded with elite scorers and shooters we will see him thrive as a super role player
There is no such thing as a fourth option scorer. What he would be is a guy that finishes layups...hopefully. but in Philly we saw him scared even to do that. In the half court the Celtics week only be concerned with his presence when he's within 6 feet of the basket. As great as Irving and Durant are spacing matters. If Nets want to switch the offense completely and keep the ball in Simmons hands all the time the Celtics will gladly take that over dealing with Irving or KD. Really I doubt they do that but if they do you gladly go with Simmons trying to score on Tatum or Horford over the normal dangerous Nets offense.
Real Men Wear Green
04-14-2022, 06:46 PM
What does he do? The same thing non shooting points have done for 130 years? We have watched him score more than an awful lot of point guards for years now. He also assisted on more threes than anyone in the nba without Kyrie and KD. He knows how to find a way to contribute. We have really started to act like he’s never played the game. He’s a 3-4 time all star who has had plenty of nights scoring 20 something to 40 with no jumper. He’s gonna create shots for others, dunk, run, shoot little 10 footers, make a hook or two and end up with the same 14-20 he always did with the few outlier 4 or 29 point games.
He’s a tall ass early Celtics Rondo, young Kidd, or any number of guys like that minus their willingness to take 2 threes and miss them both and be guarded the same way make or miss. He had like 20 one of the games in the last series we saw and yet people act like if he scores anything we should be shocked.
His non scoring has been totally overblown. I’ve seen way way way better players than Ben Simmons have like 5 points. Hell 1 point in the case of Kidd. In the playoffs. Those 3 games and a stupid non dunk mean a lot more to memes than a basketball game.
He could be completely mentally broken, shoot 36% from the line, and still score more than any number of guards will who we won’t even talk about. He’s on a team that needs playmaking and dunks out of him. It’s gonna be fine. I promise.
They might win or might lose. No matter what he does he’s gonna take some flack if they lose. Then he plays 14 more years if healthy and not insane and we stop being dramatic.
How many of those broke jumper pgs were so scared to shoot that it ended up being a psychological disorder? This is new territory. A bad shooter is different from a guy that is just scared. Would you want to rely on a teammate that you knew was scared?
Wally450
04-14-2022, 08:20 PM
Good. Let him come back. He’ll be a net negative for them when he’s out there. Plus he won’t see the court in the fourth quarter.
Kblaze8855
04-14-2022, 08:28 PM
How many of those broke jumper pgs were so scared to shoot that it ended up being a psychological disorder? This is new territory. A bad shooter is different from a guy that is just scared. Would you want to rely on a teammate that you knew was scared?
It’s not even close to new territory. Wilt wrote in his book a view from above about a sports psychologist the 76ers had him see who had worked with people who developed mental issues with shooting. Free throws in his case but the guy was also working with some guard. Wilt explained that all that happened is the doctor became a great shooter and neither of them got fixed. That was near 60 years ago they were already dealing with such mental blocks.
Be it Ben, Muggsy(who was mentally broken by Jordan in the famous “Shoot it you ****ing midget” incident), Nick Anderson playing hot potato scared to get fouled after his infamous 4 misses to lose the finals game or a hundred guys we don’t know about. I remember after an air ball young Rod Strickland on the Knicks or Spurs might literally drive into the paint given 12 feet of space to shoot. He just wouldn’t. He was in his head. It happens.
None of this is new. What’s new is social media and the hot take society who has to manufacture stories and fill air time so they harp on the same shit forever till they get new things.
Till he plays again his entire career will be about a single stupid pass. Maybe it ends up breaking him like Nick Anderson but more likely he scores like 12 points in limited minutes and a crowd goes wild and his haters predict he will fail when it counts and ignore that everyone mostly fails just for different reasons.
If he’s a 3ppg guy for the rest of his life fine. I don’t find it likely. I think he will be a reluctant shooter who puts up like 13-15/9/8 if he’s healthy next year and is all D team.
Hes never gonna be a shooter. I suspect he will stay a basketball player who contributes heavily anyway just like he’s usually been.
Like I said he’s far from the best player to go ghost offensively in a huge game. He’s not even top 20 I suspect.
fourkicks44
04-14-2022, 08:32 PM
When he plays and goes back to his usual low but pretty steady scoring are we still going to be talking about it like it matters because you have an emotional investment in him being perceived as bad? Who in history kept doing the worst thing you ever saw them do? He won’t be the first.
A mentally broken Ben will be of more use than some of you are acting like. He will not score 5ppg for the rest of his career if he goes back to big minutes. He just won’t. So why keep talking about it Like it’s relevant to the future?
He will have games with three points. He will have games with 26 points. He will be the same player in both.
I don't have an emotional investment in him being bad, he has just let me down so many times and I have no confidence in him at this point. I know what he is capable of and I also know what he has become. I have defended him so much over the years. To the point of being unhealthily optimistic.
He is not even playing. He has refused to play all year.
He has refused to get better and work on the parts of his game to help his team win.
He got his coach fired, a coach that gave him everything and more.
He refuses to shoot in the name of efficiency. Something he has stated is more important than his team winning in the playoffs.
He is in unprecedented situation, there is no evidence or indication he will go back to being the player he was or that he will ever reach his potential. Everything at the moment is pointing to the complete opposite, in fact.
And the ultimate question is still what is he in the playoffs. Even If he does produce like he has in the past he still has shown time and time again as great as he can be in the regular season, once it gets down to the crunch in the playoffs and his offence is under the microscope in pressure situations he does not perform.
He still hasn't played and in all likelihood will not play until at least next season. I want to see him play as much as anyone to see what he will actually be like on court.
Boston is where he has had so much pain and failure in the past. He is scared of his home town Philadelphia fans, imagine how he will be going up for his first free throws in the TD Garden. The Celtics players all know how to play against him. The Celtics coach knows him intimately and his first game is supposed to be in a crucial game in the playoffs.
If he faces all that and plays? He is showing some balls and maybe he has finally turned the corner. Good luck to him, It will definitely be entertaining for us all. But please excuse me if I'm sceptical about it. I feel I have good reason to do so.
Real Men Wear Green
04-14-2022, 08:51 PM
It’s not even close to new territory. Wilt wrote in his book a view from above about a sports psychologist the 76ers had him see who had worked with people who developed mental issues with shooting. Free throws in his case but the guy was also working with some guard. Wilt explained that all that happened is the doctor became a great shooter and neither of them got fixed. That was near 60 years ago they were already dealing with such mental blocks.
Be it Ben, Muggsy(who was mentally broken by Jordan in the famous “Shoot it you ****ing midget” incident), Nick Anderson playing hot potato scared to get fouled after his infamous 4 misses to lose the finals game or a hundred guys we don’t know about. I remember after an air ball young Rod Strickland on the Knicks or Spurs might literally drive into the paint given 12 feet of space to shoot. He just wouldn’t. He was in his head. It happens.
None of this is new. What’s new is social media and the hot take society who has to manufacture stories and fill air time so they harp on the same shit forever till they get new things.
Till he plays again his entire career will be about a single stupid pass. Maybe it ends up breaking him like Nick Anderson but more likely he scores like 12 points in limited minutes and a crowd goes wild and his haters predict he will fail when it counts and ignore that everyone mostly fails just for different reasons.
If he’s a 3ppg guy for the rest of his life fine. I don’t find it likely. I think he will be a reluctant shooter who puts up like 13-15/9/8 if he’s healthy next year and is all D team.
Hes never gonna be a shooter. I suspect he will stay a basketball player who contributes heavily anyway just like he’s usually been.
Like I said he’s far from the best player to go ghost offensively in a huge game. He’s not even top 20 I suspect.
It's different because he let it cost him a whole season. Think about this: in this one season he has probably missed more pay than Wilt made on the court in his entire career. I used to be in the fence but the more I think about it the more I think he must be crazy to miss out on all that money. 1 billion people can go on Facebook and say whatever they want about me for just a thousand dollars. I would not care. 30 (or whatever) million? What sane person could not deal with verbal abuse for that money? I would go out there be the worst player in NBA history post 1956 apologize for my performance in the press conference and then go home to my millions of dollars. Simmons has a very real problem. Honestly would you not go out there and play however badly you would play for a hundred thou?
Kblaze8855
04-14-2022, 09:11 PM
I don't have an emotional investment in him being bad, he has just let me down so many times and I have no confidence in him at this point. I know what he is capable of and I also know what he has become. I have defended him so much over the years. To the point of being unhealthily optimistic.
He is not even playing. He has refused to play all year.
He has refused to get better and work on the parts of his game to help his team win.
He got his coach fired, a coach that gave him everything and more.
He refuses to shoot in the name of efficiency. Something he has stated is more important than his team winning in the playoffs.
He is in unprecedented situation, there is no evidence or indication he will go back to being the player he was or that he will ever reach his potential. Everything at the moment is pointing to the complete opposite, in fact.
And the ultimate question is still what is he in the playoffs. Even If he does produce like he has in the past he still has shown time and time again as great as he can be in the regular season, once it gets down to the crunch in the playoffs and his offence is under the microscope in pressure situations he does not perform.
He still hasn't played and in all likelihood will not play until at least next season. I want to see him play as much as anyone to see what he will actually be like on court.
Boston is where he has had so much pain and failure in the past. He is scared of his home town Philadelphia fans, imagine how he will be going up for his first free throws in the TD Garden. The Celtics players all know how to play against him. The Celtics coach knows him intimately and his first game is supposed to be in a crucial game in the playoffs.
If he faces all that and plays? He is showing some balls and maybe he has finally turned the corner. Good luck to him, It will definitely be entertaining for us all. But please excuse me if I'm sceptical about it. I feel I have good reason to do so.
Just feels like it’s been made out to be too deep. He fought with the team and demanded a trade. They refused. He finally got the trade when they got the offer he wanted. And now since he didn’t get traded in the offseason when he asked I’m supposed to be overly concerned? If he got traded 6 months ago I’d imagine we wouldn’t even be talking about it at this point.
Most everything around him has been so dramatic in nature. Both him and the coverage and the fans.
Its just a guy who refused to play to force a trade. It happens. It just rarely takes almost a year.
We have to make it all out like some big thing where he’s been ruining the team for years. Talking about time and time again like he isn’t like 25. He’s barely had a time and time again. He’s won as many playoff series as of now as Nique won in a 15 season hall of fame career. The team hasn’t really struggled in his time. They were a 4 bounce corner jumper from the finals where they would have played a crippled warriors and maybe won the title. And it took not only that bounce but Embiid shooting like shit.
You would think success has looked impossible with him on the court and it’s all just being dramatic.
Hes dramatic. The team. The fans. Just drama. None of this was that major. He’s not even the only member of the non shooting 1 point playoff club to refuse to play to force a trade. Jason Kidd refused to suit up to force the nets to move him…which was after he was sent packing from the Suns for beating his wife and DUI….after Dallas got rid of him due to a love triangle related locker room issue….all part of a career he got 3 coaches fired on purpose. One of them by leading an outright mutiny in college.
The petty shit you can do in the social media age to earn everlasting infamy is hilarious.
A stupid play that becomes a meme, a feud with the team, and demanding a trade that they don’t honor for a while before being traded and getting ready to play.
And we act like it’s the most shocking drama in history. Once he asked for the trade I didn’t need to hear anymore about it. This isn’t nearly as interesting as it’s been played up to be.
Xiao Yao You
04-14-2022, 09:20 PM
I don't have an emotional investment in him being bad, he has just let me down so many times and I have no confidence in him at this point. I know what he is capable of and I also know what he has become. I have defended him so much over the years. To the point of being unhealthily optimistic.
He is not even playing. He has refused to play all year.
He has refused to get better and work on the parts of his game to help his team win.
He got his coach fired, a coach that gave him everything and more.
He refuses to shoot in the name of efficiency. Something he has stated is more important than his team winning in the playoffs.
He is in unprecedented situation, there is no evidence or indication he will go back to being the player he was or that he will ever reach his potential. Everything at the moment is pointing to the complete opposite, in fact.
And the ultimate question is still what is he in the playoffs. Even If he does produce like he has in the past he still has shown time and time again as great as he can be in the regular season, once it gets down to the crunch in the playoffs and his offence is under the microscope in pressure situations he does not perform.
He still hasn't played and in all likelihood will not play until at least next season. I want to see him play as much as anyone to see what he will actually be like on court.
Boston is where he has had so much pain and failure in the past. He is scared of his home town Philadelphia fans, imagine how he will be going up for his first free throws in the TD Garden. The Celtics players all know how to play against him. The Celtics coach knows him intimately and his first game is supposed to be in a crucial game in the playoffs.
If he faces all that and plays? He is showing some balls and maybe he has finally turned the corner. Good luck to him, It will definitely be entertaining for us all. But please excuse me if I'm sceptical about it. I feel I have good reason to do so.
you forgot his herniated disc even if he's right mentally. That shit isn't going away!
Kblaze8855
04-14-2022, 09:21 PM
It's different because he let it cost him a whole season. Think about this: in this one season he has probably missed more pay than Wilt made on the court in his entire career. I used to be in the fence but the more I think about it the more I think he must be crazy to miss out on all that money. 1 billion people can go on Facebook and say whatever they want about me for just a thousand dollars. I would not care. 30 (or whatever) million? What sane person could not deal with verbal abuse for that money? I would go out there be the worst player in NBA history post 1956 apologize for my performance in the press conference and then go home to my millions of dollars. Simmons has a very real problem. Honestly would you not go out there and play however badly you would play for a hundred thou?
When I’ve made 57 million already and have a guaranteed 180 million to come? Believe me you aren’t telling me shit. I’m 25 with dozens of millions in earnings?
Ill play where I wanna play. Life isn’t basketball. Life is life. I’d be building homeless shelters run by formerly homeless veterans doing job training a rehab programs. I’d come out looking like the good guy. **** that team.
chocolatethunder
04-15-2022, 08:25 AM
I’m not sure how long it will take but I suspect people will be reminded that Simmons can score he just won’t shoot. He’s had entire months of 19/10/9. He’s scored 40. He can score. He won’t shoot jumpers and he’s got a mental block about late fame free throws it seems. Not the same thing as not being able to score. With Kyrie, Seth, and KD around him he could be a terror on the break. He’s with one of the few elite lead guards who has willingly volunteered to hand over point guard duties to focus on scoring before. Kyrie asked Harden to play point. The coaches didn’t. They decided it together.
It really could be a dream match its just impossible to say how quickly.
Couple of things here. In a slower, more half court game, Simmons is not very effective at all. His defenders sag off of him, take away his ability to drive and force him into shooting. So while sure he’s had games/stretches where he’s scored, I really doubt that this would be one of those games.
Secondly, he has not played basketball since June, has a back and supposed mental problems, is only playing one on zero and is going to come back in the playoffs on a new team (with whom he has yet to practice) will not be a point guard, and will somehow be effective? Simmons is only effective controlling the ball. So it’s really hard for me to imagine him having some huge impact on this team as an out of shape, new guy playing a new position with no practice in the playoffs. It’s just never going to happen.
Wally450
04-15-2022, 11:35 AM
Couple of things here. In a slower, more half court game, Simmons is not very effective at all. His defenders sag off of him, take away his ability to drive and force him into shooting. So while sure he’s had games/stretches where he’s scored, I really doubt that this would be one of those games.
Secondly, he has not played basketball since June, has a back and supposed mental problems, is only playing one on zero and is going to come back in the playoffs on a new team (with whom he has yet to practice) will not be a point guard, and will somehow be effective? Simmons is only effective controlling the ball. So it’s really hard for me to imagine him having some huge impact on this team as an out of shape, new guy playing a new position with no practice in the playoffs. It’s just never going to happen.
Good post. :applause:
Taurus
04-16-2022, 01:46 AM
Simmons is not a seamless enough fit that he can just be inserted midway through a playoff series for a team he's never played for. I think the only real chance we see him is if Nets are down bad in the series and need a curveball, otherwise too risky
Manny98
04-16-2022, 05:59 AM
"Simmons can't do this", "Simmons can't do that", "he's scared"
lol can't wait for Simmons to shock the world and prove all the doubters wrong :applause:
fourkicks44
04-16-2022, 08:39 AM
"Simmons can't do this", "Simmons can't do that", "he's scared"
lol can't wait for Simmons to shock the world and prove all the doubters wrong :applause:
Me too.
I have been waiting almost 5 years.
Phoenix
04-16-2022, 08:52 AM
I'm in the 'this is a bad idea' camp, but if they're going to do it put him at the 3, KD at the 4, and run Kyrie and Mills in the backcourt. Simmons lack of shooting/free throw ability is better hidden in a role where he's not the late game facilitator or over the course of a game in general, given he has zero on-court time with this team. Let him use his athleticism on the wing finishing plays and playing D.
Me too.
I have been waiting almost 5 years.
:roll:
Jasper
04-16-2022, 01:33 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/vm7kBwHF/Screenshot-20220414-205955.jpg
He's heard the noise Simmons is going to be back with a VENGEANCE
https://i.postimg.cc/hjPytJ5T/RDT-20220327-1156216993847907308230953.jpg
saw his practices nothing has changed lmfao
Manny98
04-16-2022, 01:58 PM
Uh oh, he's dunking now....
https://twitter.com/NickFriedell/status/1515371307873021954?t=4cHACmESjqU5RtIw9w-s6g&s=19
PP34Deuce
04-17-2022, 02:07 AM
People forgetting ben is 25 and high iq ball guy.
I believe the injury but I also believe he's trying to get his money from the sixers
Manny98
04-19-2022, 01:46 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/440xMYwB/Screenshot-20220419-184457.jpg
Manny98
04-20-2022, 05:34 PM
Simmons has been working intensely with Kyle Korver the past couple of weeks
Don't be surprised when he hits free throws at a 70% clip to go along with a couple of jumpshots in game
Shogon
04-20-2022, 06:44 PM
Simmons has been working intensely with Kyle Korver the past couple of weeks
Don't be surprised when he hits free throws at a 70% clip to go along with a couple of jumpshots in game
This is extremely concerning to be honest. Because it says to me that he hasn't learned anything.
The problem isn't with his form.
The problem is in his head.
I'm not saying if his head was right he would be a 90% free throw shooter and 40% shooter from three and 50% from mid range, but what I am saying is the biggest problem he has with shooting the ball is in his head... it has nothing to do with his form.
chocolatethunder
04-21-2022, 05:54 AM
Simmons has been working intensely with Kyle Korver the past couple of weeks
Don't be surprised when he hits free throws at a 70% clip to go along with a couple of jumpshots in game
Lol I guarantee that won’t be happening. He will not take any jumpers let alone make any. As a Sixer fan we’ve been though this every off seasons w the videos of him making threes etc. It doesn’t matter who he works with the results are always the same
SATAN
04-21-2022, 07:20 AM
How much help does KD need? :biggums:
AlternativeAcc.
04-21-2022, 12:49 PM
How much help does KD need? :biggums:
They traded his 2nd option for a guy who hasn't played yet.
More like, how unlucky can Durant be?
hold this L
04-21-2022, 12:52 PM
They traded his 2nd option for a guy who hasn't played yet.
More like, how unlucky can Durant be?
Lebron didn't have a problem making 3 finals and winning 1 with the 2nd option that's been next to him. Also dropped 39 in game 1. :confusedshrug:
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