if MJ was allowed to collude and strong arm other franchises. how many rings as owner

[John_Connor]

say jordan signed guys like Anthony davis to his own agency and was allowed to text and meet up with players on other teams and offer them perks for signing with the hornets. or tell guys to force a trade there. how sick with the hornets be. I bet they make the playoffs... unlike some people where tampering rules that don't apply to them

:rolleyes:

https://i.ibb.co/0G7nqkF/1-CJ6u-fs-Qn-Q3-UGe-Y0dj31-Zw.jpg

[FKAri]

Unfortunately Jordan as an owner is even worse than LeGM.

[John_Connor]

Unfortunately Jordan as an owner is even worse than LeGM.

that's the point if the thread. if MJ could run his team the way lebron can go after other teams players the hornets would be great every year

he could just text any player at any time and offer them deals under the table like LeCollude


it's not like lebrons ever been good at picking young talent either. he gets them all traded

[3ba11]

Yeah Jordan had to develop the best brand in the league to win, just like all organic winners.

He couldn't be a talent-based winner and just hand-pick a super-team

[1987_Lakers]

Unfortunately Jordan as an owner is even worse than LeGM.

/thread.

[Baller789]

/thread.

If only MJ could team hop as a team owner like Lebron does when things don't go well.

[TheGoatest]

jordon needs an equivalent of The Great Scott Pippen on the Hornets in order to win. Just like he needed one on the Bulls to save him from 1-9. :roll:

[Baller789]

jordon needs an equivalent of The Great Scott Pippen on the Hornets in order to win. Just like he needed one on the Bulls to save him from 1-9. :roll:

You mean to say that once this great Scott Pippen arrived, the Bulls became instant contenders?

[Spurs m8]

At least 10

[John8204]

0 If you had collusion in the 90's Jordan would be as successful as he was in the 80's. Jordan only succeeded because of a crappy contract from Pippen and years finding guys who could personally mesh with Jordan. It was more socially acceptable to have 1 star with 1 team because of the pay difference...you get rid of the pay difference...for example these are the stars

Atlanta - Wilkins
Cleveland - Price
Golden State - Webber, Mullin
Indian - Milller
Los Angeles - Worthy
New York - Ewing
Orlando - Shaq
Phoenix - Barkley
Portland - Drexler
San Antonio - Robinson
Seatle - Payton/Kemp
Utah - Malone/Stockton
Washington - King

What would happen if guys in bad situations were able to force there way out of those situations....would the Bulls beat an Orlando team that looked like this

C - Shaq
PG - Price
SG - Hardaway
PF - Webber
SF - Barkley

Or say Hakeem decides he wants to make the big money in New York and Jordan has to play against this front court.

PF - Hakeem
SF - Oakley
C - Ewing

Jordan was successful because of parity but he never beat the great teams he played against and if players moved around as much as they did now...he's not going 6-0 and he'll likely have to adapt or die.

[John_Connor]

If only MJ could team hop as a team owner like Lebron does when things don't go well.

imagine if an owner said they were going wherever the talent was every 4 years lmao


Jeanie buss next year "im the new owner of the Memphis grizzlies!"

https://i.ibb.co/YLTHwxR/Jeanie-Buss-Net-Worth.jpg

:roll:

[John_Connor]

0 If you had collusion in the 90's Jordan would be as successful as he was in the 80's. Jordan only succeeded because of a crappy contract from Pippen and years finding guys who could personally mesh with Jordan. It was more socially acceptable to have 1 star with 1 team because of the pay difference...you get rid of the pay difference...for example these are the stars

Atlanta - Wilkins
Cleveland - Price
Golden State - Webber, Mullin
Indian - Milller
Los Angeles - Worthy
New York - Ewing
Orlando - Shaq
Phoenix - Barkley
Portland - Drexler
San Antonio - Robinson
Seatle - Payton/Kemp
Utah - Malone/Stockton
Washington - King

What would happen if guys in bad situations were able to force there way out of those situations....would the Bulls beat an Orlando team that looked like this

C - Shaq
PG - Price
SG - Hardaway
PF - Webber
SF - Barkley

Or say Hakeem decides he wants to make the big money in New York and Jordan has to play against this front court.

PF - Hakeem
SF - Oakley
C - Ewing

Jordan was successful because of parity but he never beat the great teams he played against and if players moved around as much as they did now...he's not going 6-0 and he'll likely have to adapt or die.

the 90s didn't have collusions because of pride and guys wanting to beat each other. not because of any kind of rule


and Jordan wouldn't be the goat right now if he had done a bunch of team ups. Kobe would be the most respected player all time right now. he woulda taken that throne and gotten all the mvps from the media cause they never woulda seen an alpha like that before and instead of them being mad about a copy he woulda been an original

[1987_Lakers]

0 If you had collusion in the 90's Jordan would be as successful as he was in the 80's. Jordan only succeeded because of a crappy contract from Pippen and years finding guys who could personally mesh with Jordan. It was more socially acceptable to have 1 star with 1 team because of the pay difference...you get rid of the pay difference...for example these are the stars

Atlanta - Wilkins
Cleveland - Price
Golden State - Webber, Mullin
Indian - Milller
Los Angeles - Worthy
New York - Ewing
Orlando - Shaq
Phoenix - Barkley
Portland - Drexler
San Antonio - Robinson
Seatle - Payton/Kemp
Utah - Malone/Stockton
Washington - King

What would happen if guys in bad situations were able to force there way out of those situations....would the Bulls beat an Orlando team that looked like this

C - Shaq
PG - Price
SG - Hardaway
PF - Webber
SF - Barkley

Or say Hakeem decides he wants to make the big money in New York and Jordan has to play against this front court.

PF - Hakeem
SF - Oakley
C - Ewing

Jordan was successful because of parity but he never beat the great teams he played against and if players moved around as much as they did now...he's not going 6-0 and he'll likely have to adapt or die.

/thread

[Baller789]

/thread

Why would the thread end?

[WhiteKyrie]

I mean if he didn’t retire to play baseball in his last few years of his physical prime, he def would’ve had a fourth straight ring in 1994.

And would’ve been a better version of the 1996 team. Featuring prime Jordan, and peak Pippen. Also their normal 3 point shooting space creating and penetrating PG in BJ Armstrong.

1995 is possible even without a PF, would’ve had a better chance and better chemistry than the baseball rust after just 17 regular season games.

1999 is a lock for a ring if Krause, Pippen and Jackson’s egos didn’t blow it up a year or two years early.

So he def would’ve had 8x. With two first ever four peats. And possibly a 9th or 10th in 1995 and 2000.

Fun fact, Jackson wanted MJ on the Lakers. The stacked Shaq and Kobe Lakers. Mike didn’t need or want to look competitively weak and need to collectively stack the deck with superstars to win more rings as easily as possible. He could’ve very easily been their SF for their rings in 2000 - 2003.

[John_Connor]

Why would the thread end?

it's the 2nd time he's said it cause he knows lebrons being exposed as a team jumping colluder that would fail harder than MJ in the frint office. he knows that if lebron was an owner he couldn't do that stupid shit and have an agency that represents all the top talent or have a way to text every player around the league to force a trade to whatever team lebron plans on being a part owner with due to him not having enough money cause the cheapest team is like 4 or 5 times his net worth

[TheCorporation]

Which years did MJ win when he wasn't a favorite?

Zero years?

Thanks.

[Baller789]

Which years did MJ win when he wasn't a favorite?

Zero years?

Thanks.

Which take did you have which wasn't retarded?

Thanks.

[TheGoatest]

Which years did MJ win when he wasn't a favorite?

Zero years?

Thanks.

jordon was handed everything on a silver platter. He never faced adversity after the 80s Pistons/Celtics/Lakers became washed.

[John_Connor]

Which years did MJ win when he wasn't a favorite?

Zero years?

Thanks.

losing as the favorite is way worse than simply winning when you're supposed to

:lol


and tbh that 98 team shouldn't have been the favorite. the jazz were better and so was malone all year. so I'd say that was an underdog ring. especially considering the drama around ownership and pippen all year

[Baller789]

losing as the favorite is way worse than simply winning when you're supposed to

:lol


and tbh that 98 team shouldn't have been the favorite. the jazz were better and so was malone all year. so I'd say that was an underdog ring. especially considering the drama around ownership and pippen all year

A lot of pundits had the Jazz winning that series with Jordan and Rodman in clear decline, Pip subpar and hurt and Malone having a better season than Jordan. Plus Jazz homecourt.

TheTwerp clearly lying through his teeth again. What a loser.

[Spurs m8]

A lot of pundits had the Jazz winning that series with Jordan and Rodman in clear decline, Pip subpar and hurt and Malone having a better season than Jordan. Plus Jazz homecourt.

TheTwerp clearly lying through his teeth again. What a loser.

What's new with the corp/goat tits

Lying little cockroach

Should have drowned his accounts and alts on that championship cruise

How embarrassing