Josh Smith or Andre Iguodala *Who do you think will have a better career???*

[Mr_Basketball#1]

As you know, J Smooth and Iggy hop came alive last year and became "leaders" for their team...So which one of these guys do you think will have the better career when its all set and done...


Josh Smith
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u153/Amber_307/joshalley2hq.gif

On March 3, 2007, Smith broke the 500 block mark, making him the youngest player to do so in NBA history.

Smith ended the 2006-2007 with 16.4 points per game, 8.6 rebounds per game, 3.3 assists, 1.4 steals and 2.9 blocks, dramatically improving on his previous season's stats. Leading the Hawk's after Joe Johnson's season ending injury, Smith produced a career high 32 points and 19 rebounds in Johnson's absence.

Andre Iguodala
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/Chiller84/Iguodala-avi.gif

Immediately following the departure of Allen Iverson in December 2006, Iguodala's statistical categories soared; improving his scoring, rebounding, assists, field goal percentage, and free throw percentage as he has become the best player on the 76ers' offense while still maintaining his diligent defensive skills. Was one of four players among qualifiers in 2006-07 to average at least 18 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists (Kobe Bryant, LeBron James and Tracy McGrady).

[rknine15]

Dam this is close... but im gonna have to say AI

[skillswithaz]

Andre Iquodola will become a superstar. This guy is the real deal. The only advantage he has over Josh Smith really is being able to create his own shot, but it's so much more than that. He has an extremely quick first step, and can finish almost as well as anyone in the league. They both need to work on their outside shooting, and when they accomplish that, they'll be all-stars.

So I'd say when all is said and done, AI will be a better player, even if he lacks the defense and rebounding skill that Josh Smith. (but he's nowhere near bad in either of those categories)

[AI Nuggets3]

they'll both do well career wise but the problem is that their games are designed to be 2nd or 3rd options (if you can call that a problem)

neither of them will ever be able to carry a team, but they both could be someone's "Pippen"

[i seen hippos]

I'll take Iggy every day of the week.

Imo, he can lead a team with his mentality, playmaking, individual skills, etc.

Smith will be better suited as a 2nd or 3rd option of a high caliber team. To me, he's more like a specialist. A finisher and a defender.

Iggy has a much better all around game.

[Mr_Basketball#1]

they'll both do well career wise but the problem is that their games are designed to be 2nd or 3rd options (if you can call that a problem)

neither of them will ever be able to carry a team.

Huh??? Well who carried the 76ers last year...I know they didnt make the playoffs but they came closer than alot of people thought they would and I think Iggy carried that team..

[adamcz]

I'd take Iggy. Josh will always have the better highlight plays because he's even more of a freakish athlete, but AI has the better game. He seems more level headed and consistent, and plays better man defense.

Wish we had either of them on the Bucks.

[Collie]

I think he means able to carry a team "far", which I believe is true.

[AI Nuggets3]

Huh??? Well who carried the 76ers last year...I know they didnt make the playoffs but they came closer than alot of people thought they would and I think Iggy carried that team..

dont get me wrong, Iggy did an awesome job last year, but the Sixers still went 30-37 with Iggy as the 1st option.

Iguodala is built to excel either on an elite team or a team with no clear star but tons of good players (Bulls, Pistons, etc). A team with Iguodala as the first option or as their main star would probably not be a playoff team. it would be a repeat of the JRICH led Warrior teams.

but with that being said it was fun as hell watching him last year. he had some huge moments and IMO he's still the best dunker in the world.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

This is a good comparison and close as hell.

I'd take Iggy though, He has the potential to be a superstar in the league one day.

[CAYO]

Josh Smith

[Los Angeles]

Iggy, without a hesitation for me...

[baseketball4life]

I have to say Josh smith. PRIME stats: 23 PPG 11 RPG 3 BPG

[PhxFanAtBirth]

I'd say almost too close to tell but at this point Andre has a bit of an edge....

[sixerfan3511]

Iggy for sure will have the better career, he's better well rounded

[otmtheshank]

I would take Iguodala. There's no doubt in my mind that he has the potential to become the next Pippen. He's a great scorer, rebounder, passer, and is already very capable of playing solid perimeter defense. Josh is a great player himself, though. His game reminds me a lot of AK47. Even his stats are similar. If he can improve his jumpshot and his defense, I could see him becoming a Shawn Marion-caliber player, possibly even better.

[t-mac#1]

Andre and Smith have similar defensive games. Andre will better because he can create his own shot and is better shooter at this point of his career. He will be the sixers got to guy next year unlike josh smith who will be second to joe johnson.

[JohnnyBravo5]

Smith has been working with the Dream on post moves. He has also been working on his perimeter shot and handles. If Josh remembers half of what Hakeem has taught him then it wouldn't be close. I believe that Prime Josh Smith will avg 23/9/3/3 with multiple 1st team all defense selections.

[Uchiha_Hai]

Ai

[bigkingsfan]

AI doesn't have the bad attitude, so he wins by default.

[Mr_Basketball#1]

AI doesn't have the bad attitude, so he wins by default.

Yeah when josh smith matures and works on his shot, he should be a solid player..

[AI Nuggets3]

AI doesn't have the bad attitude, so he wins by default.

yeah what he needs tho IS some attitude. kid has no killer instinct. this is the same guy who pleaded with Mo Cheeks not to draw up plays for him for 2 and a half seasons.

if Iguodala had an alpha dog mentality he could be a legit superstar. he has all the tools.

[T-Low]

Honestly, I would take Josh Smith....AI is a #1 option on Philly right now.....I wanna see what Josh Smith could do if he wasn't behind a star (Joe Johnson)...

[Mr_Basketball#1]

Honestly, I would take Josh Smith....AI is a #1 option on Philly right now.....I wanna see what Josh Smith could do if he wasn't behind a star (Joe Johnson)...

He would do exactly what he did when Joe got hurt...He had solid games, but showed that he wasnt capable of being a leader and his team struggled...

[T-Low]

He would do exactly what he did when Joe got hurt...He had solid games, but showed that he wasnt capable of being a leader and his team struggled...

He didn't show he was a leader because he has never really been in that kind of situation and when u dun have a solid PG to lead the charge, it would be hard....when Philly went on their late season run, he had Miller to lead the charge, good guy to run that type of offense....Now tell me who Atlanta really had to lead them?

[Mr_Basketball#1]

He didn't show he was a leader because he has never really been in that kind of situation and when u dun have a solid PG to lead the charge, it would be hard....when Philly went on their late season run, he had Miller to lead the charge, good guy to run that type of offense....Now tell me who Atlanta really had to lead them?

Speedy Claxton isnt the best, but he is a solid point guard that can distribute the ball...Just because Claxton isnt a big name doesnt mean he isnt a good point guard...

[T-Low]

Speedy Claxton isnt the best, but he is a solid point guard that can distribute the ball...Just because Claxton isnt a big name doesnt mean he isnt a good point guard...

1. Claxton was injured quite a bit (played in 42 games), 2. Claxton isn't very good for distributing the ball. His best average for assist is 6.4 with a better GS than the current Atlanta squad... He is a quick player but for him distributing the ball he wasn't the greatest...

[Mr_Basketball#1]

1. Claxton was injured quite a bit (played in 42 games), 2. Claxton isn't very good for distributing the ball. His best average for assist is 6.4 with a better GS than the current Atlanta squad... He is a quick player but for him distributing the ball he wasn't the greatest...

Come on dude...Josh Smith isnt capable of being a leader at this stage of his career...Iggy has miller but I think Iggy can create his own shots unlike Smith who needs a point guard to set him up...

[T-Low]

Come on dude...Josh Smith isnt capable of being a leader at this stage of his career...Iggy has miller but I think Iggy can create his own shots unlike Smith who needs a point guard to set him up...

Josh Smith can be a leader....not at this point of his career....but I believe that he can..He will show it this year if u ask me...

[Mr_Basketball#1]

Josh Smith can be a leader....not at this point of his career....but I believe that he can..He will show it this year if u ask me...

Yeah he can be a leader one day...And I agree with you I think he will have a good year this year as well...I want him to excel in the league but he must mature...

[brantonli]

Terrific comparison, and I always think of this when doing fantasy drafts, especially when both guys are on board and I'm thinking, bloody hell, these two are going to be superstars and I can't decided between them!' From a fan perspective, I'll take Andre Iguodala, he's as atheletic as Josh Smith (Dunk Contest remember?), and is also the first option for the 76ers. That said, as a fantasy basketball player, I'll take Josh Smith, simply because his blocks are pure gold.

[reecedoc]

I have to say Josh smith. PRIME stats: 23 PPG 11 RPG 3 BPG


i will say, josh smith- i like both but its somthing bout j smooth

[JohnnyBravo5]

i will say, josh smith- i like both but its somthing bout j smooth

It is J-Smoove by the way..we kountry down here.

It is hilarious hearing all of this "Iguodala is a leader" crap. What did he lead exactly? A better team to a worse lottery position.

At one point the Hawks started 2 NBDL players at point guard. And as far as an "attitude" goes he simply wanted to win. He snapped at Anthony Johnson because he thought that he should get the ball. That is what people who want to be superstars do. Kobe does it. Mike did it. They are competitors. Josh is a competitor. But we'll see this year.

[Mr_Basketball#1]

It is J-Smoove by the way..we kountry down here.

It is hilarious hearing all of this "Iguodala is a leader" crap. What did he lead exactly? A better team to a worse lottery position.

At one point the Hawks started 2 NBDL players at point guard. And as far as an "attitude" goes he simply wanted to win. He snapped at Anthony Johnson because he thought that he should get the ball. That is what people who want to be superstars do. Kobe does it. Mike did it. They are competitors. Josh is a competitor. But we'll see this year.

Spoken like a true J Smooth fan...Nice avatar...:D

[AI Nuggets3]

Iguodala "led" Philly to a 30-37 record without Iverson last year.

i doubt Josh Smith would've even matched that record.

these are 2nd option guys we're talking about. neither can lead a team.

[GOBB]

Iggy is better all around.

[JohnnyBravo5]

Iguodala "led" Philly to a 30-37 record without Iverson last year.

i doubt Josh Smith would've even matched that record.

these are 2nd option guys we're talking about. neither can lead a team.

At one point the Hawks had this starting 5

Anthony Johnson
Josh Childress
Josh Smith
Shelden Williams
Solomon Jones

I want to see Iguodala lead that team anywhere.

And by the way unless your team made the playoffs at least, you can't claim that Iguodala led them anywhere.

[i seen hippos]

At one point the Hawks had this starting 5

Anthony Johnson
Josh Childress
Josh Smith
Shelden Williams
Solomon Jones

I want to see Iguodala lead that team anywhere.

And by the way unless your team made the playoffs at least, you can't claim that Iguodala led them anywhere.

Iggy is better. Stop being a homer. Joshua can block shots better. There you go. Now get to bed. Summer school only arrives three times in your life so make the best of it.

[Mr_Basketball#1]

Iggy is better. Stop being a homer. Joshua can block shots better. There you go. Now get to bed. Summer school only arrives three times in your life so make the best of it.

Haha...Now that was funny...:oldlol:

[JohnnyBravo5]

Iggy is better. Stop being a homer. Joshua can block shots better. There you go. Now get to bed. Summer school only arrives three times in your life so make the best of it.


I am trying to go to bed but your mom is insatiable. Viagra can only do so much.

[Agent_Zero]

I'm taking Dre. He seems to be more in the Kobe mold of a shooting guard, and better all around, scoring, dishing, getting boards, playing D where as Smith seems to be a second fiddle type of player, specializing in fast break dunks, blocks, and steals. Igoudala will lead the Sixers for a long time.

[Q.E.C]

As you know, J Smooth and Iggy hop came alive last year and became "leaders" for their team...So which one of these guys do you think will have the better career when its all set and done...


Josh Smith
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u153/Amber_307/joshalley2hq.gif

On March 3, 2007, Smith broke the 500 block mark, making him the youngest player to do so in NBA history.

Smith ended the 2006-2007 with 16.4 points per game, 8.6 rebounds per game, 3.3 assists, 1.4 steals and 2.9 blocks, dramatically improving on his previous season's stats. Leading the Hawk's after Joe Johnson's season ending injury, Smith produced a career high 32 points and 19 rebounds in Johnson's absence.

dang, look how high he got with 2 hands. he's got some mad hops.

[JohnnyBravo5]

I'm taking Dre. He seems to be more in the Kobe mold of a shooting guard, and better all around, scoring, dishing, getting boards, playing D where as Smith seems to be a second fiddle type of player, specializing in fast break dunks, blocks, and steals. Igoudala will lead the Sixers for a long time.

I think that it is significant that Josh only avg 2ppg less than Iguodala despite being a second and sometimes 3rd option on offense with very little offensive sets run for him...not to mention that Iguodala is a better FT shooter. It suggests that Josh has more room for growth.

[Top_Of_Tha_World]

Iggy.

[sixerfan3511]

Whoever said that they are similar defensively is an idiot. Iguodala is a shut down type of defender, Smith just blocks shots and gambles. He is not a lock down defender. On offense, Iguodala is more mature, more well rounder, and has better shot selection. He's also a better shooter and passer, and he gets to the line more. The only thing Smith is better at is rebounding, shot blocking and maybe dunking(idk about that even...). Not close and im not being a homer

[wally_world]

Josh Smith...

1) Defence
2) that slight height factor

[Diesel J]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u153/Amber_307/joshalley2hq.gif

dudes a freak:eek:

[Rasheed1]

Iggy

he is rounding into a pretty nice player...He is a shut down defender and he has all the tools to be a kobe type player... Not as talented as kobe, but has a better disposition and may be able to lead the team somewhere if Billy King were to ever put a nice team around the guy.. I pray we dont go thru his prime with the bumbling front office again like we have with a few other great players.

[JohnnyBravo5]

I think a better comparison would be between Iguodala and Deng since they are both SG/SF swing men who are the #1 options on their respective teams.

[i seen hippos]

I think a better comparison would be between Iguodala and Deng since they are both SG/SF swing men who are the #1 options on their respective teams.

Would still take Iggy easily.

Not that he's a lot better, but there's a clear enough difference that I wouldn't have to think too long about it.

[sixerfan3511]

Josh Smith...

1) Defence
2) that slight height factor

defense? how so...? because he, blocks more shots:confusedshrug: ? He is not a better stationary or 1 on 1 defender, and he gets more steals. Iguodala only loses in shot blocking...that's like saying that Smith is a better defender than Bruce Bowen

[Mr. Jabbar]

:applause:

[Fallen Angel]

>the state of gifs

http://i.imgur.com/k4STDBo.png

[LoneyROY7]

Josh's hops in that gif. :eek:

[Heavincent]

Iguodala turned out to be the much better player.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u153/Amber_307/joshalley2hq.gif

dudes a freak:eek:

Goddamn.

I'd still argue peak Smoove > peak Iggy. Iggy has obviously aged better, though it didn't look that way until the Warriors went all Spurs with their players.

[Rocketswin2013]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u153/Amber_307/joshalley2hq.gif

dudes a freak:eek:
i don't think ive ever see anything like that outside of maybe gerald greens windmill alleyoop a few years ago.

thats not even human like.

[Dr Hawk]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u153/Amber_307/joshalley2hq.gif

dudes a freak:eek:

What the............. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Smoke117]

I'd probably take Josh Smith at his peak over Iggy at his.

[Dr Hawk]

I'd probably take Josh Smith at his peak over Iggy at his.

I would take Iguodala without hesitation. He knows his limits, which apparently Josh doesn't, and he is a great defender and team player

[Smoke117]

I would take Iguodala without hesitation. He knows his limits, which apparently Josh doesn't, and he is a great defender and team player

I'm talking about 2010 Josh Smith...the Josh Smith who averaged 0.1 3pt attempts and stayed in the paint. That version knew his limitations...he just got lazier and lazier as he got older.

[CJ Mustard]

Back when people actually discussed basketball on ISH.

[plowking]

Iguodala turned out to be the much better player.

Not really.

Smith was better at his peak after this thread was made, and probably better over the last 5 years.

The difference? One landed on a great team full of great players, and a great system. The other? Not so much.

[houston]

Not really.

Smith was better at his peak after this thread was made, and probably better over the last 5 years.

The difference? One landed on a great team full of great players, and a great system. The other? Not so much.


Dude became all-star,all-defense 2x and finals mvp with championship.Iggy wins this easily.

[plowking]

Dude became all-star,all-defense 2x and finals mvp with championship.Iggy wins this easily.

His finals MVP was bogus, his championship was due to the team he was on and Smith was more productive since the thread was made.

It'd be like calling Billups a better PG than Wall because he won a championship and FMVP, though in this case, Igoudala wasn't even a top 3 player on his team. He just happened to play okay, and the narrative drove it that way.

[lilblingy]

Iggy:applause: One of my favorite players. Josh Smith was an athletic beast in his prime too though. Monsters in 2k:bowdown:

[houston]

His finals MVP was bogus, his championship was due to the team he was on and Smith was more productive since the thread was made.

It'd be like calling Billups a better PG than Wall because he won a championship and FMVP, though in this case, Igoudala wasn't even a top 3 player on his team. He just happened to play okay, and the narrative drove it that way.


But he have the better career that all this thread is about. Of course that Finals MVP was undeserved but he won it.

[warriorfan]

Check out Iguodala's career arc as soon as he joined up with Curry

The Curry Effect

:bowdown:

[FreezingTsmoove]

I would take Iguodala without hesitation. He knows his limits, which apparently Josh doesn't, and he is a great defender and team player

Ummm like peak Josh Smith wasnt a great defender? Peak Josh Smith was an elite defender and anchored the Hawks defense for years and held down the ship for an entire season when Horford went down. Hawks defensive statistics speak for themselves

Peak Josh was also an all star level ball handler especially in transisition and his play making was amazing for a man of his size

A truly underrated great player during his time.

[Kawhi]

Back when Josh Smoove was some serious cheese on 2K. LeBronesque, I'd say.