anyone actually still think the moon landings were real

[John_Connor]

nobody went to the moon. nobodies even been farther than the space station since the moon missions since the early 70s. why is that. the international space station is 400km high in the exosphere. the radiation belt is 640km... space shuttles don't have enough led shielding for us to safely travel through it. and they reach out to 58,000km. the last astronauts to try and pass through it were russian and they nearly died. they started seeing stars and feeling dizzy. its simply not possible

its funny how the government and most people still go with this shit like 9/11 not being a controlled demolition even with just as much evidence. and recently i found out its even more impossible for anyone to travel outside of our solar system cause of a radiation bubble


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At7ORzmAaT4&ab_channel=Destiny


that whole star trek and star wars shit will never happen. we will never find aliens. them traveling here without bending space and time with some 4th dimensional worm hole is literally impossible

[Shogon]

Yes, the moon landings were real. During the Apollo missions, we placed reflecting objects on the moon that are visible from Earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retroreflectors_on_the_Moon

The most questionable part is the footage in its entirety. Someone could have been dumb enough to include some training footage in publicly released footage and tried to pass it off as authentic, which would "prove" beyond a reasonable doubt to emotionally crippled people such as yourself that the whole thing was fake, but nope... we did indeed go.

Additionally, the Soviets or any other foreign adversary would have a hard-on for exposing such a thing. You think we didn't go and have kept that secret from all the other intelligence agencies around the world? Lol.

The moon conspiracies are always my favorite.

[Jasper]

op if you had logic and common sense this thread would not be.

Tell me Mars rovers were never landed on Mars , but your cell phone can pick up Asian stripe teases

[John_Connor]

op if you had logic and common sense this thread would not be.

Tell me Mars rovers were never landed on Mars , but your cell phone can pick up Asian stripe teases

the Mars rover didn't have people in it

[FultzNationRISE]

Yes, the moon landings were real. During the Apollo missions, we placed reflecting objects on the moon that are visible from Earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retroreflectors_on_the_Moon

The most questionable part is the footage in its entirety. Someone could have been dumb enough to include some training footage in publicly released footage and tried to pass it off as authentic, which would "prove" beyond a reasonable doubt to emotionally crippled people such as yourself that the whole thing was fake, but nope... we did indeed go.

Additionally, the Soviets or any other foreign adversary would have a hard-on for exposing such a thing. You think we didn't go and have kept that secret from all the other intelligence agencies around the world? Lol.

The moon conspiracies are always my favorite.


The reflectors thing feels like something an unmanned craft could have done, no?

But I agree that if it simply wasnt possible to get humans there safely, there would be Russian and Chinese (not to mention American) scientists aware of this and theyd clamor much louder about the issue.

All in all, I still have difficultly fathoming how improbable and dangerous a manned moon landing is. Space is RIDICULOUSLY dangerous, and the moon is far as fvck. Prior to the attempt it must have seemed like a near-certain death sentence. If anything goes wrong youre just dead, and theres endless things that can go wrong.

Then again people probably said this about airplanes when the first few people flew in them, and now we all do it. Altho moon landing is obviously orders of magnitude more sophisticated.

Still seems hard to believe they actually did it... altho I dont see how they maintain a ruse of that nature, so I guess I can accept it happened.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Yes, the moon landings were real.


joke is on you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_DPrSEOEo




Again... joke is on you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s-9VKuYflo

[HylianNightmare]

Please go outside

[John_Connor]

Please go outside


https://youtu.be/wsNHeSoABYQ


https://youtu.be/LOM-cSa93IM


https://i.postimg.cc/5NdNZnst/Screenshot-20220417-105236-Google.jpg

[CelticBaller]

they're real you moron

[John_Connor]

they're real you moron

the amount of shielding needed to travel to the moon is too heavy to blast into space. the only way it would be possible is to blast pieces of a shuttle into orbit and assemble a craft over like 5 years from many missions


it's called science. this thing had paper thin shielding. they all would have died

https://i.postimg.cc/GpkG8BVd/Apollo-Spacecraft-diagram.jpg


they stayed in orbit at 400km ... it was staged. there's soooo much evidence too.

no blast crater. no sand on landing pads. same backgrounds in photos taken from different locations. unexplained light sources. falling down and being pulled up like they're on strings. try watching some videos lmao

[John_Connor]

btw these are the official nasa explanations for not going back to the moon and why the footage looks fake




" we lost the original footage of the moon landing"


https://www.space.com/nasa-apollo-11-moonwalk-lost-tapes-auction-statement.html




"we forgot how to go to the moon"



https://youtu.be/1Jn2fMYyxEc

[warriorfan]

btw these are the official nasa explanations for not going back to the moon and why the footage looks fake




" we lost the original footage of the moon landing"


https://www.space.com/nasa-apollo-11-moonwalk-lost-tapes-auction-statement.html




"we forgot how to go to the moon"



https://youtu.be/1Jn2fMYyxEc

NASA claimed they lost all of the telemetry data from the Apollo missions. Just lost it. Lol.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/Apollo_11_TV_Tapes_Report.pdf

[Manny98]

Quite a few sheep who believe everything that they're told on the news.

Look at all the idiots who got the vaccine for covid :oldlol:

[highwhey]

mouthbreathers flocking to this thread to gain a sliver of attention by refuting the moon landing.

[John_Connor]

mouthbreathers flocking to this thread to gain a sliver of attention by refuting the moon landing.

did you forget to put "hoax" at the end of that sentence


cause if not... low IQ


it's physically and scientifically IMPOSSIBLE to go to the moon


do you know what kind of dangerous levels of radiation exist above our atmosphere. it will cook your ass. they flew in a tinfoil box through it lmao.. you need steel thickness about as wide as a giant bank vault to make it through with zero radiation sickness. space shuttles don't have the rocket fuel to push that kind of weight into orbit

[FultzNationRISE]

"we forgot how to go to the moon"



https://youtu.be/1Jn2fMYyxEc


This is some shit EVERYONE should be going "what... the... FVCK" at.

Because it's clearly an outright, absurd, UNBELIEVABLE lie.

EVEN if it's something as simple as a scam to continue pumping billions and billions into "rediscovering the technology...." it's unthinkable that a technology like that was destroyed (did everyone who developed it die immediately as well??) so even if the moon landing is real, that kind of fraudulent deception about 'losing the technology' should still be completely unacceptable to the public. I mean that is like the plot out of a cartoon strip. It is UNTHINKABLE that "we lost the technology" is an official government position given to the public.


Yet somehow, most of the public, including the smartest guy in the room, highwhey, have no problem buying it.

Wild stuff.

[FultzNationRISE]

In 1969 we fly humans here - AND BACK (the harder part) multiple times easy peasy.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5XXEXPNBGX0/maxresdefault.jpg


But then we lost the technology.





:confusedshrug:

[FultzNationRISE]

NASA claimed they lost all of the telemetry data from the Apollo missions. Just lost it. Lol.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/Apollo_11_TV_Tapes_Report.pdf


Oops!

High quality footage taken of the most monumental achievement (by far, not even CLOSE, nothing remotely compares) in human history, never to be repeated again (because the technology was lost).....


Cant find it! :(


Darn!

[John_Connor]

Oops!

High quality footage taken of the most monumental achievement (by far, not even CLOSE, nothing remotely compares) in human history, never to be repeated again (because the technology was lost).....


Cant find it! :(


Darn!

"we went to the moon"


https://youtu.be/_gBYkPgmrP4

[SATAN]

Some of the dumbest people to ever live post on this forum.

[Off the Court]

Some of the dumbest people to ever live post on this forum.

:oldlol:

Funny because it's true.

[John_Connor]

Some of the dumbest people to ever live post on this forum.

so you believe nasa forgot how to go to the moon and radiation doesn't exist around the earth

[John_Connor]

:oldlol:

Funny because it's true.

you're quite possibly the dumbest person here after Jasper and lebron23

[FultzNationRISE]

so you believe nasa forgot how to go to the moon and radiation doesn't exist around the earth

:roll:


Lets see how many of the people who came in and dropped the profound scientific take of “your dumb, thats stupid!!!!!” are gonna attempt to address these MAJORLY dubious inconsistencies.

If theyre smart and genuine theyll wanna get the answers straight. If theyre lazy or insecure theyll just run away.


Also it hasnt even been mentioned the perpetual danger of space debris outside Earth’s atmosphere, which is STUPID DEADLY and can strike a vessel at any time without warning. Pieces of rock move at speeds we cant even picture as earthlings. A speck of dust can tear thru a cabin and zip thru your whole body.

Also, the threat of overheating an UNMANNED vessel during re-entry to the Earth’s atmosphere is an immensely complicated and elaborate challenge TODAY. You cant just zip into an atmosphere at the speeds these craft move, youll burn the hell up. You have to burn fuel to slow your descent, which means you have to carry nearly as much fuel with you as you used during lift off. This is expensive and difficult for unmanned craft, but at least they dont have to slow down to speeds that protect a human. Oh but wait... this technology existed in 1969, it just doesnt right now :roll:

The odds of humans successfully FLYING TO THE MOON AND WALKING AROUND would have been so incredibly absurd. People see that thing in the sky and think it’s close. The moon is a vast distance away thru outer space. The most mathematically probable scenario easily is that every person dies EVERY time. One successful trip would have been the most improbable event in human history. Yet somehow we triumphed as a nation a bunch of times, no sweat. Awesome! :lol

I mean if there are legitimate answers to these things, Im not “against” believing we went to the moon. But when you have gaps in the narrative as big as “we lost the technology from 1969” :roll: it’s pretty fair to ask questions.


“Nah uh, ur just stupid, thats dumb, I believe the thing bc they told me in school why would they lie.”

But hey, lotta guys smarter than me in this thread. So what do I know.

[John_Connor]

:roll:


Lets see how many of the people who came in and dropped the profound scientific take of “your dumb, thats stupid!!!!!” are gonna attempt to address these MAJORLY dubious inconsistencies.

If theyre smart and genuine theyll wanna get the answers straight. If theyre lazy or insecure theyll just run away.


Also it hasnt even been mentioned the perpetual danger of space debris outside Earth’s atmosphere, which is STUPID DEADLY and can strike a vessel at any time without warning. Pieces of rock move at speeds we cant even picture as earthlings. A speck of dust can tear thru a cabin and zip thru your whole body.

Also, the threat of overheating an UNMANNED vessel during re-entry to the Earth’s atmosphere is an immensely complicated and elaborate challenge TODAY. You cant just zip into an atmosphere at the speeds these craft move, youll burn the hell up. You have to burn fuel to slow your descent, which means you have to carry nearly as much fuel with you as you used during lift off. This is expensive and difficult for unmanned craft, but at least they dont have to slow down to speeds that protect a human. Oh but wait... this technology existed in 1969, it just doesnt right now :roll:

The odds of humans successfully FLYING TO THE MOON AND WALKING AROUND would have been so incredibly absurd. People see that thing in the sky and think it’s close. The moon is a vast distance away thru outer space. The most mathematically probable scenario easily is that every person dies EVERY time. One successful trip would have been the most improbable event in human history. Yet somehow we triumphed as a nation a bunch of times, no sweat. Awesome! :lol

I mean if there are legitimate answers to these things, Im not “against” believing we went to the moon. But when you have gaps in the narrative as big as “we lost the technology from 1969” :roll: it’s pretty fair to ask questions.


“Nah uh, ur just stupid, thats dumb, I believe the thing bc they told me in school why would they lie.”

But hey, lotta guys smarter than me in this thread. So what do I know.

it's not that they're incapable of using their brains. they refuse to like with the 9/11 shit and vaccines cause they want to trust the US government. they also believe biden and his son had nothing to do with the downfall of ukraine


it's hilarious.. just blindly trust millionaire old pedophiles that are just as human as anyone else and greed/power corrupts us all

[warriorfan]

This is some shit EVERYONE should be going "what... the... FVCK" at.

Because it's clearly an outright, absurd, UNBELIEVABLE lie.

EVEN if it's something as simple as a scam to continue pumping billions and billions into "rediscovering the technology...." it's unthinkable that a technology like that was destroyed (did everyone who developed it die immediately as well??) so even if the moon landing is real, that kind of fraudulent deception about 'losing the technology' should still be completely unacceptable to the public. I mean that is like the plot out of a cartoon strip. It is UNTHINKABLE that "we lost the technology" is an official government position given to the public.


Yet somehow, most of the public, including the smartest guy in the room, highwhey, have no problem buying it.

Wild stuff.

Lol, this is definitely a smoking gun. If you take a step back and try to take their story at face value it’s absolutely one of the most ridiculous things you have ever heard.

[warriorfan]

:roll:


Lets see how many of the people who came in and dropped the profound scientific take of “your dumb, thats stupid!!!!!” are gonna attempt to address these MAJORLY dubious inconsistencies.

If theyre smart and genuine theyll wanna get the answers straight. If theyre lazy or insecure theyll just run away.


Also it hasnt even been mentioned the perpetual danger of space debris outside Earth’s atmosphere, which is STUPID DEADLY and can strike a vessel at any time without warning. Pieces of rock move at speeds we cant even picture as earthlings. A speck of dust can tear thru a cabin and zip thru your whole body.

Also, the threat of overheating an UNMANNED vessel during re-entry to the Earth’s atmosphere is an immensely complicated and elaborate challenge TODAY. You cant just zip into an atmosphere at the speeds these craft move, youll burn the hell up. You have to burn fuel to slow your descent, which means you have to carry nearly as much fuel with you as you used during lift off. This is expensive and difficult for unmanned craft, but at least they dont have to slow down to speeds that protect a human. Oh but wait... this technology existed in 1969, it just doesnt right now :roll:

The odds of humans successfully FLYING TO THE MOON AND WALKING AROUND would have been so incredibly absurd. People see that thing in the sky and think it’s close. The moon is a vast distance away thru outer space. The most mathematically probable scenario easily is that every person dies EVERY time. One successful trip would have been the most improbable event in human history. Yet somehow we triumphed as a nation a bunch of times, no sweat. Awesome! :lol

I mean if there are legitimate answers to these things, Im not “against” believing we went to the moon. But when you have gaps in the narrative as big as “we lost the technology from 1969” :roll: it’s pretty fair to ask questions.


“Nah uh, ur just stupid, thats dumb, I believe the thing bc they told me in school why would they lie.”

But hey, lotta guys smarter than me in this thread. So what do I know.

People look at all this stuff and then come in with a brain dead cope “wow, look what we were able to overcome! Wow!”

Lol

The odds that it was some propaganda program that also gave the US government an excuse to syphon off huge amounts of money to whatever they wanted is so many times greater than the proposed story.

[Bill Gates]

We still have the technology to land on the moon. We just lost the old technology because the hundreds of NASA engineers and scientists that created that used that old tech are now gone and dead and the current generation has moved on to newer tech and the old stuff is lost on them. There have been six crewed missions to the moon.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Moon_landing_sites.svg/1200px-Moon_landing_sites.svg.png


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/6c/62/3e6c624d273292b6dc5a14d080757c5f.jpg

Aside from the reflectors that Shogon mentioned there the Apollo crew brought back 800 pounds of pristine moon rock, sand, and dust. Had these rocks and matter entered the atmosphere any other way they would have been torched. The rocks have been sent to labs around the globe and scientists everywhere have verified their authenticity including scientists in Russia. It is undeniable proof.

[John_Connor]

We still have the technology to land on the moon. We just lost the old technology because the hundreds of NASA engineers and scientists that created that used that old tech are now gone and dead and the current generation has moved on to newer tech and the old stuff is lost on them. There have been six crewed missions to the moon.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Moon_landing_sites.svg/1200px-Moon_landing_sites.svg.png


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/6c/62/3e6c624d273292b6dc5a14d080757c5f.jpg

Aside from the reflectors that Shogon mentioned there the Apollo crew brought back 800 pounds of pristine moon rock, sand, and dust. Had these rocks and matter entered the atmosphere any other way they would have been torched. The rocks have been sent to labs around the globe and scientists everywhere have verified their authenticity including scientists in Russia. It is undeniable proof.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/apollo-moon-rocks-lost-space-lost-earth/story?id=8595858

sorry but they mostly all went missing (probably a cover up) and the few that were tested turned out to be petrified wood


do you honestly think they can't fake some moon rocks and get some bogus reporting from governments to say they're legit lmao

I guess the piece of wood from Arizona they gave to some prime minister was a mistake

[Bill Gates]

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/apollo-moon-rocks-lost-space-lost-earth/story?id=8595858

sorry but they mostly all went missing (probably a cover up) and the few that were tested turned out to be petrified wood


do you honestly think they can't fake some moon rocks and get some bogus reporting from governments to say they're legit lmao

I guess the piece of wood from Arizona they gave to some prime minister was a mistake
Did you even both to read that article? Were you able to comprehend it? It is in regards to Netherlands' National Museum having theirs stolen and that it should be a "wake up call to the other 130 counties that own some of the rocks".

Are all 130 countries including Russia in on the conspiracy?

85% of the rocks are still in NASA's control. Here is an updated article:
https://www.space.com/where-are-nasa-apollo-moon-rocks.html

[FultzNationRISE]

Did you even both to read that article? Were you able to comprehend it? It is in regards to Netherlands' National Museum having theirs stolen and that it should be a "wake up call to the other 130 counties that own some of the rocks".

Are all 130 countries including Russia in on the conspiracy?

85% of the rocks are still in NASA's control. Here is an updated article:
https://www.space.com/where-are-nasa-apollo-moon-rocks.html

https://c.tenor.com/THNbWd78REoAAAAC/spiderman-pointing.gif

The article says nothing about rocks being stolen from the Dutch museum. It says their rock was tested and shown to be fake. The rock was inherited from a former PM who presumably received it as a gift from the US. But it wasnt a real moon rock. It was fake.

The article does mention authenticated moon soil obtained from an unmanned probe. But the rocks scooped up by Neil and Buzz seem to all be missing or mislabeled.



And that's probably a good thing, because it was discovered recently that Moon Dust Is Super Toxic To Human Cells.... (https://www.livescience.com/62590-moon-dust-bad-lungs-brain.html)

[John_Connor]

https://c.tenor.com/THNbWd78REoAAAAC/spiderman-pointing.gif

The article says nothing about rocks being stolen from the Dutch museum. It says their rock was tested and shown to be fake. The rock was inherited from a former PM who presumably received it as a gift from the US. But it wasnt a real moon rock. It was fake. The article does mention authenticated moon soil obtained from an unmanned probe. But the rocks scooped up by Neil and Buzz seem to all be missing or mislabeled.



And that's probably a good thing, because it turns out Moon Dust Is Super Toxic To Human Cells.... (https://www.livescience.com/62590-moon-dust-bad-lungs-brain.html)

just like how the original footage of the moonlanding was lost or taped over lmao


everything's such a coincidence


"we forgot how to go to the moon" "what's a rocket" ..."petrified wood... woops" "missing moon rocks? my bad" "I recorded my wedding over the moon landing by mistake"

:roll:


https://youtu.be/OROlF8zB9z0

[FultzNationRISE]

just like how the original footage of the moonlanding was lost or taped over lmao


everything's such a coincidence


"we forgot how to go to the moon" "what's a rocket" ..."petrified wood... woops" "missing moon rocks? my bad" "I recorded my wedding over the moon landing by mistake"

:roll:



:yaohappy:


The public be like:

https://c.tenor.com/AbP5ekv-nKQAAAAM/excited-listening.gif

[Bill Gates]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxZ_iPldGtI

Can't fix stupid but I can try to keep it from spreading to others. Must contain the stupid.

[John_Connor]

https://i.ibb.co/syfcc2y/Screenshot-20220418-182409-Gallery.jpg


there's moon rocks everywhere. and they can weather to dissolve the evidence of entry from the atmosphere

[Shogon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxZ_iPldGtI

Can't fix stupid but I can try to keep it from spreading to others. Must contain the stupid.


What? No way. They're just paid actors 5 decades later helping keep the charade. These 4 old ladies are on the payroll until death to keep it aaaaallllllll a big fake secret.

[Shogon]

SMDH @ the guys in this thread that act like it's impossible to lose knowledge and technology over time.

We still can't even figure out how the **** we built the pyramids and that was 4500 ****ing years ago, LMAO.

People die, funding dries up, people retire, expertise is lost... permanently. Shit happens. Not every single little step and every little piece of knowledge in a collective group of people's brains are all stored on digital or paper copies. Shit just gets lost. It is what it is.

If we needed to go back to the moon right now we could figure it out, but the funding would have to be there... and in the opinion of our government, and probably the opinion of the public at large, nobody wants a bunch of money being spent BY THE GOVERNMENT SPECIFICALLY on going back to the moon.

[FultzNationRISE]

What? No way. They're just paid actors 5 decades later helping keep the charade. These 4 old ladies are on the payroll until death to keep it aaaaallllllll a big fake secret.

4 old ladies paid to give tours of a laboratory know what's going on at the highest levels? Moon dust can be simulated, you know that right? Like we can create fake moon rocks made of the same materials. That's how the effects of lunar dust are currently studied.

Dude my Dad is an absolute tard with zero understanding of anything, and he actually has a good job that occasionally includes dinners with Chuck Schumer and other people plugged deep into the system.

Useful idiots believe whatever the people who write their paychecks tell them to believe. It's well known and nothing new. You can hide secrets in plain site from most of the public.

[Bill Gates]

Yes and after Apollo 11 they did 5 more hoax manned missions to the moon because they couldn't get enough of the public going:

https://c.tenor.com/AbP5ekv-nKQAAAAM/excited-listening.gif[

[FultzNationRISE]

Yes and after Apollo 11 they did 5 more hoax manned missions to the moon because they couldn't get enough of the public going:

https://c.tenor.com/AbP5ekv-nKQAAAAM/excited-listening.gif[


People have died all the time (Challenger, Columbia, countless test flights) on missions that don't even extend beyond Earth's atmosphere - even long AFTER 1969. And that's just flying here around the Earth, a FRACTION of the distance needed to reach the moon, not to mention the incalculable, infinite and unpredictable risks of walking around on the surface of the moon.

People die constantly in space flight doing things that are 1/100 the difficulty of landing on the moon and walking around. Your lack of appreciation for how INSANE a manned moon landing is to accomplish betrays your level of scientific understanding. My whole point here is that even IF by some miraculous way it happened - you should be starting from a point of incredulity given how utterly improbable it is that they could land people on the moon and back 6 times and nobody got hurt. No radiation damage to man or machine, no space debris, no thermal control malfunctions (space is -450 degrees, you know that right?) no problems from lunar dust, no difficulty with re-entry. Do you know how ****ing far the moon actually is from us to fly humans through ruthless outer space and hope nothing goes wrong??? :roll:

It's still impossible in 2022 to do that once (der bc teh technology was lost), so the idea of it happening 6 times in 1969 is dubious at best. If you dont meet that narrative with skepticism, you probably just dont think about these things often. Which most people dont, hence it's an easy sell.

Further, IF we had the technology to do this in 1969, Moore's law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law) suggets we should practically be teleporting at this point. So if it's not a hoax, that means the DARPA's technological abilities right now must be beyond insane.

Again, in 2022 we're not even close to doing it once. The problems are ENORMOUS. But fifty years ago when color TV wasnt even invented, we did it six times! Damn.



:facepalm

[John_Connor]

What? No way. They're just paid actors 5 decades later helping keep the charade. These 4 old ladies are on the payroll until death to keep it aaaaallllllll a big fake secret.

there's moon rocks all over the earth lol. why do you think its covered in craters...its hit with asteroids and moon rocks are sprayed into earth and have been for millions of years...


and the people working there weren't around when those rocks got there. why would they even think they're lying

[FultzNationRISE]

I mean look, sometimes miracles happen. And I acknowledge that.

One time it rained for literally FORTY DAYS STRAIGHT and a dude managed to build an ark, and get two of every animal onto it. The shit was insane and it never happened since, but it still happened.

It's recorded in the written record. You think if it was fake they could get people to agree about it? Not only that, but we have those animals still here today.

So, yes, sometimes improbable things happen. In the case of the ark, we have it on record, all the smart people say it, and theres even still PROOF here on Earth right now.

So yes it does sometimes make sense to believe something just because.

And I admit that.

[Bill Gates]

there's moon rocks all over the earth lol. why do you think its covered in craters...its hit with asteroids and moon rocks are sprayed into earth and have been for millions of years...


and the people working there weren't around when those rocks got there. why would they even think they're lying

Anything on earth would have burned entering the atmosphere and then weathered. And how do you explain all the soils and dust they brought back? In vacuum sealed containers, never having come in contact with oxygen. No rust or corrosion or weathering of any kind. It's impossible. That's why none of the 135 countries who were given samples question it.

Read, do research. It's much better than blabbering off like an ignorant fool. I get that believing in conspiracies makes you feel smarter than the public. But what's really happening is that you're just exposing yourself as an uneducated buffoon.

[FultzNationRISE]

Coincidentally this is a rather apropos discussion for Easter weekend. Compels us to reflect on a time when humans had the technology to rise from the dead.


But then we lost it :( :mad:

[Doomsday Dallas]

mouthbreathers flocking to this thread to gain a sliver of attention by refuting the moon landing.

it's a subject that does deserve a little bit of attention from time to time... real talk.

[SATAN]

Hey Doomsday Dallas...Have you seen The Aviator?

[Nanners]

Its beyond hilarious that so many people believe that we "forgot" how to get to the moon.

Have you idiots ever been inside a car from the 1960s? Or watched a 1960s television set? Or seen what "computers" looked like in the 1960s? How can you be stupid enough to believe that we made some magic spaceflight breakthroughs that were crucial for reaching the moon back in the 1960s-70s, and we are now unable to "re-discover" or replicate this tech ~60 years later? You really believe that NASA forgot to write down how they got to the moon, (allegedly) the most impressive feat of exploration in all of human history? The (supposed) lunar landing modules still exist, so why exactly are we unable to reverse engineer them?

What specific knowledge or technology did we (supposedly) "lose" that is now prevents us from returning to the moon? What specific breakthroughs must be made in order to return? Funny how they never talk about specifics with this topic...

https://i.ibb.co/vVN6NNn/1616890708068.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/M2X2p47/1616894610693.jpg

[SATAN]

:facepalm

[Nanners]

Imagine being stupid enough to believe that humanity "forgot" technology from 60 years ago... technology that was crucial in achieving one of the (supposed) most impressive feats in all of human history :oldlol:

How exactly do people "forget" about a technology anyway? Aside from travelling to the moon, is there any other technology in all of human existence that was forgotten shortly after it was used to (supposedly) achieve one of the greatest feats in history?


Imagine if we "forgot" how to make the 1969 ford mustang GT500, and now we cant make cars that do 0-60 in less than 5.5 seconds.

Imagine if we "forgot" how to make the color TV invented in 1968, and now we cant make color TVs.

Imagine if we "forgot" how to make the computers of the 60s-70s (that were the size of a house), and now we can only make computers the size of an amazon warehouse and we cant make hard drives larger than 3 megabytes.

[SATAN]

Have you ever used Photoshop before? :lol

:facepalm

[Nanners]

Have you ever used Photoshop before? :lol

:facepalm

so photos debunking the moon landing are photoshopped, but the laughably bogus film and photos that that were (supposedly) taken on the moon were not doctored in any way :oldlol:

I dare you to tell me which specific technology we "forgot" that is preventing a modern moon mission from occuring.... or to name a single important tech that humanity "forgot"

We didnt forget how to build boats after magellan circumnavigated the earth, we didnt forget how to build blimps after the Hindenberg blew up, we never forgot how to build airplanes, we never forgot how to build submarines, we never forgot how to build trains, we never forgot how to build cars, we never forgot how to build computers... yet we somehow forgot how to get to the moon even though NASA has been (supposedly) putting people in space for the past ~55 years since the moon missions.

[Bill Gates]

We didn't "forget" anything and we could go to the moon if we wanted. We'll probably put a man on Mars within the next 20 years (which I am sure will have the conspiracy crowd in a frenzy). The technology used to get to the moon during Apollo 11 days used less computing power than a modern calculator. There were hundreds of NASA engineers and scientists involved in that and they are all dead now. No one today needs to know that old tech because today's technology is vastly superior. That is in a nut shell how the technology was "lost". A combination of the many people who understood it being dead and gone, and the new generation of engineers and scientists having moved on to completely new tech.

You can accept this or you can create your own reality with photoshopped images and childish posturing. Up to you.

[FultzNationRISE]

We didn't "forget" anything and we could go to the moon if we wanted. We'll probably put a man on Mars within the next 20 years (which I am sure will have the conspiracy crowd in a frenzy). The technology used to get to the moon during Apollo 11 days used less computing power than a modern calculator. There were hundreds of NASA engineers and scientists involved in that and they are all dead now. No one today needs to know that old tech because today's technology is vastly superior. That is in a nut shell how the technology was "lost". A combination of the many people who understood it being dead and gone, and the new generation of engineers and scientists having moved on to completely new tech.

You can accept this or you can create your own reality with photoshopped images and childish posturing. Up to you.

Complete balderdash.

They would not have “discarded” (as if thats a real thing) any old technology unless/until the emerging tech could actually do what the old stuff did. If the newer techs cant put a man on the moon like we supposedly did before, they wouldnt have allowed the old stuff to be “lost.” The ‘69 techs would still be the current standard for manned moon landings.

Again we are talking about the most improbable achievement by many orders of magnitude in human history. We poured a quarter trillion into the industry but didnt document exactly how we were achieving this?? We just “did it” because some engineers all linked minds thru telepathy and nobody wrote down any formulas or blueprints? Nobody recorded data from pre-flight testing?

What youre saying is utterly asinine. The idea we would not document how it works is not even remotely logical.

If we did get to the moon, there would have to be a superior explanation than that. It’s embarrassing that anyone would be gullible enough to believe what you just said.

[Nanners]

Complete balderdash.

They would not have “discarded” (as if thats a real thing) any old technology unless/until the emerging tech could actually do what the old stuff did. If the newer techs cant put a man on the moon like we supposedly did before, they wouldnt have allowed the old stuff to be “lost.” The ‘69 techs would still be the current standard for manned moon landings.

Again we are talking about the most improbable achievement by many orders of magnitude in human history. We poured a quarter trillion into the industry but didnt document exactly how we were achieving this?? We just “did it” because some engineers all linked minds thru telepathy and nobody wrote down any formulas or blueprints? Nobody recorded data from pre-flight testing?

What youre saying is utterly asinine. The idea we would not document how it works is not even remotely logical.

If we did get to the moon, there would have to be a superior explanation than that. It’s embarrassing that anyone would be gullible enough to believe what you just said.

"we cant make cars anymore, because the guys who invented and understood the car are all dead and gone" :oldlol:

[Off the Court]

Can't make cars anymore? We can still go to the moon :facepalm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang%27e_4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJi_YEubKCY

China landed that on the Moon in 2019.

If you can stay alive a while you'll likely see Musk put a man on Mars.

[AlternativeAcc.]

It would be harder to fake multiple moon landings over the course of several years than actually going to the moon like we did.

Not even the soviets questioned it and they were competing with the US to go to the moon.

There's no compelling evidence that it's fake, just cherry picked quotes and general skepticism from people who lack critical thinking skills.

[AlternativeAcc.]

SMDH @ the guys in this thread that act like it's impossible to lose knowledge and technology over time.

We still can't even figure out how the **** we built the pyramids and that was 4500 ****ing years ago, LMAO.

People die, funding dries up, people retire, expertise is lost... permanently. Shit happens. Not every single little step and every little piece of knowledge in a collective group of people's brains are all stored on digital or paper copies. Shit just gets lost. It is what it is.

If we needed to go back to the moon right now we could figure it out, but the funding would have to be there... and in the opinion of our government, and probably the opinion of the public at large, nobody wants a bunch of money being spent BY THE GOVERNMENT SPECIFICALLY on going back to the moon.

The pyramids is a good example. They used the technology at the time and were hyper focused on that singular achievement. Now we look back in awe and ask how they did it... it's because they mastered a few things and were hyper focused. At the time building a pyramid was important, in the 60s going to the moon was important. Now, not so much. Doesn't mean it's not possible, it's just not practical

[FultzNationRISE]

The pyramids is a good example. They used the technology at the time and were hyper focused on that singular achievement. Now we look back in awe and ask how they did it... it's because they mastered a few things and were hyper focused. At the time building a pyramid was important, in the 60s going to the moon was important. Now, not so much. Doesn't mean it's not possible, it's just not practical

Yeah, it’s not tho.

We may not have good records of the technology they used to do it... but we could do it today. We could have done it in 1850. We could have done it in 1492.

We may not know how THEY originally did it, because it was 4,000 years ago and there are no computer records or photographs from the time that would tell us. But the ability to build pyramids was never lost. Architecture has continually advanced.

We have NASA scientists saying we dont have the ability to take humans beyond the Van Allen belt TODAY, when technology has increased in leaps over the last 50 years.

But we had the ability to do it in 1969.

Just not anymore.



“Critical thinking skills” :roll:

[hateraid]

This has been the most fascinating discussion on ISH. I'm neither here nor there and haven't been fully pulled in one direction. Keep it going!

[John_Connor]

there's a big difference between not understanding ancient technology used by completely different people thousands of years ago and not understanding technology by the same people from 50 years ago

[AlternativeAcc.]

Yeah, it’s not tho.

We may not have good records of the technology they used to do it... but we could do it today. We could have done it in 1850. We could have done it in 1492.

We may not know how THEY originally did it, because it was 4,000 years ago and there are no computer records or photographs from the time that would tell us. But the ability to build pyramids was never lost. Architecture has continually advanced.

We have NASA scientists saying we dont have the ability to take humans beyond the Van Allen belt TODAY, when technology has increased in leaps over the last 50 years.

But we had the ability to do it in 1969.

Just not anymore.



“Critical thinking skills” :roll:

Technology has increased in most areas, but space technology is completely different. The costs associated with the materials of space shuttles hasn't gone drastically down like in other areas. It's a cost and time issue. There'd been no focus on going back to the moon since the early 70s... and for good reasons. Why do we need to go to the moon? It's a gigantic waste of time and resources.

You said it yourself, technology has increased drastically since the 60s. When they say they 'lost the technology' they quite literally mean that the methods used at the time are pretty much obsolete and the experts at the time are all dead. The funding for moon missions stopped and thus innovations didn't happen. It's so simple.

It's hilarious that the same exact people who think the will Smith slap was fake are in here guns blazing about the moon missions being fake with zero evidence or logic. :oldlol:

[John_Connor]

. Why do we need to go to the moon?

because we've never been there before

[AlternativeAcc.]

there's a big difference between not understanding ancient technology used by completely different people thousands of years ago and not understanding technology by the same people from 50 years ago

But you guys are making the claim that technology has increased astronomically since the 60s which is why it should be so easy to go the moon.

There's been zero focus or funding to go to the moon. It's not that hard to comprehend

[FultzNationRISE]

Technology has increased in most areas, but space technology is completely different. The costs associated with the materials of space shuttles hasn't gone drastically down like in other areas. It's a cost and time issue. There'd been no focus on going back to the moon since the early 70s... and for good reasons. Why do we need to go to the moon? It's a gigantic waste of time and resources.

You said it yourself, technology has increased drastically since the 60s. When they say they 'lost the technology' they quite literally mean that the methods used at the time are pretty much obsolete and the experts at the time are all dead. The funding for moon missions stopped and thus innovations didn't happen. It's so simple.

It's hilarious that the same exact people who think the will Smith slap was fake are in here guns blazing about the moon missions being fake with zero evidence or logic. :oldlol:

Ok.

So we just poured hundreds of billions into medical research to fight the “global pandemic.”

Now that it’s over, you dont expect humanity will retain that technology in 10-15 years time?

If anyone knows, it would be Bill Gates :lol

[FultzNationRISE]

But you guys are making the claim that technology has increased astronomically since the 60s which is why it should be so easy to go the moon.

There's been zero focus or funding to go to the moon. It's not that hard to comprehend

This does not negate an ABILITY to do it.

The fact we arent electing to do it does not explain the fact we no longer know HOW :oldlol:


At this point youre just spamming this talking point out of frustration. It’s been completely deconstructed logically.

[warriorfan]

But you guys are making the claim that technology has increased astronomically since the 60s which is why it should be so easy to go the moon.

There's been zero focus or funding to go to the moon. It's not that hard to comprehend

So there’s been no advancements in computer technology that would make it far easier to go back to the moon? Think of computer systems in that period compared to now. They would need a computer the size of a room to replicate a normal smart phone of today. To try to say we haven’t improved on any technology in the past 50 years that would make it easier to get back to the moon is just absolutely absurd.

[FultzNationRISE]

Society does not “lose” technological ability.

The methods evolve and eventually look completely different, but nothing that could be done in the past CANT be done now.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Ok.

So we just poured hundreds of billions into medical research to fight the “global pandemic.”

Now that it’s over, you dont expect humanity will retain that technology in 10-15 years time?

If anyone knows, it would be Bill Gates :lol

Because we've moved past that technology and wouldn't take the same risks as they did in the 60s for a political gain.

We didn't literally lose the technology. :oldlol:

The technology and methods at the time are obsolete. Space travel is insanely complex.. the most complex area of all. Retaining the same methods they used to a tee would be completely pointless. It's not to say they couldn't spend a ton if time and money to retrace precisely how they did it with the instruments and technology of the 60s... it's more like why **** on earth would you want to. It's so fukking illogical and stupid.

[warriorfan]

I guess the only thing more incredible then flying people to the moon and back is remembering how you did it.

[Off the Court]

NASA currently has plans to put humans on the moon in 2025.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Society does not “lose” technological ability.

The methods evolve and eventually look completely different, but nothing that could be done in the past CANT be done now.

Agreed.

Which is why there's nobody spending time trying to figure out how to use 60s technology to get to the moon. You just killed your own argument. Why would we use the same methods and technology to get to the moon as we did in the 60s. Nobody is focusing on 60s technology to get to the moon :roll:

[AlternativeAcc.]

NASA currently has plans to put humans on the moon in 2025.

Using 60s technology right? Because experts should be focused on how they did it in the 60s. :lol

[Off the Court]

It's hilarious that the same exact people who think the will Smith slap was fake are in here guns blazing about the moon missions being fake with zero evidence or logic. :oldlol:
And this is what it really all boils down to. They have been conditioned to label anything and everything as fake. It doesn't matter if it is something as simple as a slap on the face or insanely complex like space travel, they will hunt down things to point at so that they can declare it fake. You can make a case that the Earth is flat if you want. I mean look at the horizon line, it's completely flat! Only a dumb ass would believe it is round.

[AlternativeAcc.]

And this is what it really all boils down to. They have been conditioned to label anything and everything as fake. It doesn't matter if it is something as simple as a slap on the face or insanely complex like space travel, they will hunt down things to point at so that they can declare it fake. You can make a case that the Earth is flat if you want. I mean look at the horizon line, it's completely flat! Only a dumb ass would believe it is round.

:roll:

[Nanners]

NASA currently has plans to put humans on the moon in 2025.

Back in 2009, NASA was saying they would be going back to the moon by 2020 - https://www.space.com/7015-40-years-moon-landing-hard.html


NASA's current rockets and space shuttles arent capable of surpassing low-Earth orbit to reach the moon with the amount of gear required for a manned expedition.

"The amount of rocket energy it takes to accelerate those kinds of payloads away from Earth doesnt exist anymore," said Jeff Hanley, NASA's Constellation program manager. "It exited in the Apollo era with the Saturn V. Since that time this nation has retired that capability."

According to NASA the reason we havent been able to go back is because they cant make big rockets anymore, which makes perfect sense considering that SpaceX is currently making rockets more than twice as powerful as the Saturn V (which carried the moon missions).

[AlternativeAcc.]

Back in 2009, NASA was saying they would be going back to the moon by 2020 - https://www.space.com/7015-40-years-moon-landing-hard.html



According to NASA the reason we havent been able to go back is because they cant make big rockets anymore, which makes perfect sense considering that SpaceX is currently making rockets more than twice as powerful as the Saturn V (which carried the moon missions).

Did you even read the article? It explains perfectly why we haven't gone to the moon. Money, time, and unjustified risks. I guess you glossed over the part where they explain they're trying to do it much cheaper and much safer.

Parts become obsolete. Old methods become useless. Many of the parts used in the original moon missions aren't manufactured anymore...

If there was the same political pressure and funding for moon landings then obviously we'd be able to do it. It's a matter of practicality.

[Nanners]

Did you even read the article? It explains perfectly why we haven't gone to the moon. Money, time, and unjustified risks. I guess you glossed over the part where they explain they're trying to do it much cheaper and much safer.

Parts become obsolete. Old methods become useless. Many of the parts used in the original moon missions aren't manufactured anymore...

If there was the same political pressure and funding for moon landings then obviously we'd be able to do it. It's a matter of practicality.

what do you mean they dont manufacture the parts anymore? they stopped making tinfoil and cardboard?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Apollo_11_Lunar_Lander_-_5927_NASA.jpg

No doubt the cost and time associated with building such a sophisticated craft is just too great for modern humans to handle! :oldlol:

[AlternativeAcc.]

what do you mean they dont manufacture the parts anymore? they stopped making tinfoil and cardboard?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Apollo_11_Lunar_Lander_-_5927_NASA.jpg

No doubt the cost and time associated with building such a sophisticated craft is just too great for modern humans to handle! :oldlol:

Maybe they can borrow some tinfoil from your hat.

[warriorfan]

It’s just too complex.

[Nanners]

https://c.tenor.com/WcYrO0qbEjgAAAAd/astronauts-caught-using-wires-nasa.gif

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AngryValuableBaleenwhale-size_restricted.gif

[Off the Court]

Maybe they can borrow some tinfoil from your hat.

Ouch :roll:

[FultzNationRISE]

https://www.nasa.gov/images/content/2333main_MM_Image_Feature_19_rs4.jpg


The temperature on the moon is super hot or super cold, depending which side youre on. If anything goes wrong with that suit's temperature regulation device... you die IMMEDIATELY.

Theres no air on the moon. If anything goes wrong with the circulation of oxygen in your suit... you die IMMEDIATELY.

2800kg of meteorite materials pounds the moon's surface each day. It travels faster than a bullet and is not shielded by an atmosphere. If you get hit... you die IMMEDIATELY.

The sun spews coronal mass ejections randomly that will fry anything in space not protected by a magnetic field like that of, oh, say, Earth. If the Sun happens to ejaculate while you're on your trip... die IMMEDIATELY.

If anything goes wrong with the rocket you showed up in... you will die. Nobody can come pick you up. You cant order parts to the moon. All that unknown risk of how your delicate equipment will be affected by massively powerful galactic cosmic rays... if anything goes wrong, you're dead.

Lunar soil is much more jagged than Earth soil because there is no wind to erode it. If you trip and fall, the ground could rip your suit open. Oops. You're dead.

Keep in mind it takes three days and nights of traveling through the vacuum of space to reach the moon. To preserve human life on such a space craft, nothing can go wrong. Water systems, oxygen, temperature control, radiation damage, collision avoidance. It's incredibly precarious.

And that's the easy part. Then comes the 'moon walk' which includes the incredible dangers I just outlined. Then it gets even harder trying to return astronauts from beyond Earths orbit, which astronauts died in 2003 trying to attempt on space shuttle Columbia.

The odds of this all being possible, let alone GOING RIGHT EVERY TIME in 1969, are comically small. There was a very high probability America was sending astronauts to die. Just, understand that. Nothing CLOSE to this had been achieved before, and the logistics are unfathomably complex, in addition to fatal dangers that cant be guarded against. At the time of it happening, we were very likely culminating 10 years and 250,000,000 dollars by watching some test monkies die. That would be pretty awkward and deflating - dare I say publicly infuriating, wouldnt it? But it was by far the most probable scientific outcome. It was such an unlikely event that the official story is that we no longer know how we did it.

But huzzah! We planted dat flag and ran it back 5 more times.

Boss af.

Hey, do you believe in miracles?

[SATAN]

Maybe they can borrow some tinfoil from your hat.

:oldlol:

[Shooter]

Did you even read the article? It explains perfectly why we haven't gone to the moon. Money, time, and unjustified risks. I guess you glossed over the part where they explain they're trying to do it much cheaper and much safer.

Parts become obsolete. Old methods become useless. Many of the parts used in the original moon missions aren't manufactured anymore...

If there was the same political pressure and funding for moon landings then obviously we'd be able to do it. It's a matter of practicality.

/thread

[warriorfan]

https://www.nasa.gov/images/content/2333main_MM_Image_Feature_19_rs4.jpg


The temperature on the moon is super hot or super cold, depending which side youre on. If anything goes wrong with that suit's temperature regulation device... you die IMMEDIATELY.

Theres no air on the moon. If anything goes wrong with the circulation of oxygen in your suit... you die IMMEDIATELY.

2800kg of meteorite materials pounds the moon's surface each day. It travels faster than a bullet and is not shielded by an atmosphere. If you get hit... you die IMMEDIATELY.

The sun spews coronal mass ejections randomly that will fry anything in space not protected by a magnetic field like that of, oh, say, Earth. If the Sun happens to ejaculate while you're on your trip... die IMMEDIATELY.

If anything goes wrong with the rocket you showed up in... you will die. Nobody can come pick you up. You cant order parts to the moon. All that unknown risk of how your delicate equipment will be affected by massively powerful galactic cosmic rays... if anything goes wrong, you're dead.

Lunar soil is much more jagged than Earth soil because there is no wind to erode it. If you trip and fall, the ground could rip your suit open. Oops. You're dead.

Keep in mind it takes three days and nights of traveling through the vacuum of space to reach the moon. To preserve human life on such a space craft, nothing can go wrong. Water systems, oxygen, temperature control, radiation damage, collision avoidance. It's incredibly precarious.

And that's the easy part. Then comes the 'moon walk' which includes the incredible dangers I just outlined. Then it gets even harder trying to return astronauts from beyond Earths orbit, which astronauts died in 2003 trying to attempt on space shuttle Columbia.

The odds of this all being possible, let alone GOING RIGHT EVERY TIME in 1969, are comically small. There was a very high probability America was sending astronauts to die. Just, understand that. Nothing CLOSE to this had been achieved before, and the logistics are unfathomably complex, in addition to fatal dangers that cant be guarded against. At the time of it happening, we were very likely culminating 10 years and 250,000,000 dollars by watching some test monkies die. That would be pretty awkward and deflating - dare I say publicly infuriating, wouldnt it? But it was by far the most probable scientific outcome. It was such an unlikely event that the official story is that we no longer know how we did it.

But huzzah! We planted dat flag and ran it back 5 more times.

Boss af.

Hey, do you believe in miracles?

It would be harder to film it in a studio tho

[diamenz]

Lunar soil is much more jagged than Earth soil because there is no wind to erode it. If you trip and fall, the ground could rip your suit open. Oops. You're dead.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELlfqzllOB8

seriously though, those are some interesting tidbits i never knew.

[jstern]

I decided to search for the lunar rover, and to my surprise it was filmed 50 years ago today, if you're in California.


https://youtu.be/az9nFrnCK60

This is the video I was looking for though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2sjqmKeM5g

[Jasper]

No doubt the moon as well as the earth is flat. No evidence they are sphere's .

[Bronbron23]

I can't lie the moon landing looks suspect as hell but who knows. I wouldn't put anything past our government but faking the moon landing would take alot of effort to keep everyone involved quite.

[John_Connor]

I decided to search for the lunar rover, and to my surprise it was filmed 50 years ago today, if you're in California.


https://youtu.be/az9nFrnCK60

This is the video I was looking for though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2sjqmKeM5g

it always amazes me when I see the video and pictures from the moon looking like they were filmed with major motion picture highest quality camera equipment with perfect lighting everywhere when all they had were these little 8mm home video camera things bolted to their chest

https://i.ibb.co/fvR02n8/Screenshot-20220423-162937-Gallery.jpg

[Jasper]

Unlike the planet earth where crap is flying thu the air all the time , the moon does not have any particles flying thru the air unless a solar wind comes thru.

Some of these comments are a real joke :

How come our earth solar panels are not as good as the NASA rover solar panels ??
Daah - you have a million dollars to spend on your solar panels ?

[jstern]

Unlike the planet earth where crap is flying thu the air all the time , the moon does not have any particles flying thru the air unless a solar wind comes thru.

Some of these comments are a real joke :

How come our earth solar panels are not as good as the NASA rover solar panels ??
Daah - you have a million dollars to spend on your solar panels ?

I think what you mean is that the moon does not have an atmosphere. Or maybe that's not what you mean, because you say that Earth has crap flying through the AIR, which is the atmosphere. Which means you're making a distinction between the two. And then you mention that the moon does not have particles flying through the air, as if the moon has air.

Also, I could be wrong, I'm not going to re read all of the comments, but I don't think anyone here has mentioned solar panels, much less ask how come Earth's solar panels are not as good as the moon rover solar panels. Come to think of it I don't even think the Lunar Rover used solar panels, but a battery instead. Unless you're talking about the Mars rovers, which would be odd since everyone is talking about the moon landing here.

[Jasper]

I am obviously referencing something beyond you , because you live in the concrete confines of a city.

I live in the country and when you turn on a flashlight at night there is tons of particles flying thru the air.
Obviously the moon does not have these particles because it does not have an atmosphere as you have stated.
Because of this photo's are much clearer from when the moon landings occurred.

my reference to the mars rovers solar panels is reference to the technology that NASA has , and what is not available to the general public , in regards to solar panels.
this should fix your mind trap.

[8Ball]

Lmfao, no wonder OP complains about not getting a date, he says too much stupid shit. :lol

[John_Connor]

Lmfao, no wonder OP complains about not getting a date, he says too much stupid shit. :lol

i must admit...there's more evidence of people going to the moon than you ever having a girlfriend

[zeerghit]

why russia or china are not exposing them?? any ideas?

[warriorfan]

why russia or china are not exposing them?? any ideas?

We would bully the **** out of them

[zeerghit]

We would bully the **** out of them

yeah right..

[Jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTChrirK-hw

done w/this topic