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Shooter
04-29-2022, 09:39 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Gh03gLtQ/Le-Bron-s-Comp-Was-WAY-Better.png

And we don't make these things up bois because facts are facts.

2much_knowledge
04-30-2022, 12:52 AM
Crickets chirping........

A+ for effort

Overdrive
04-30-2022, 02:05 AM
Of course they do. They mostly won against him raising their net eff.

Baller789
04-30-2022, 03:43 AM
So OP stopped using his Westbrook_fan alt to use the Shooter gimmick.

OP, how do you know which alt to use for the day?

Spurs m8
04-30-2022, 05:17 AM
So OP stopped using his Westbrook_fan alt to use the Shooter gimmick.

OP, how do you know which alt to use for the day?

Deciding which alt to use is the highlight of his day

SATAN
04-30-2022, 06:59 AM
As a long time Michael Jordan fan this information is really eye opening, OP. Very insightful stuff. After taking this into further consideration I'm not sure if MJ is really worthy of the #3 all time spot.

It's a heart breaking realization for a dedicated Michael Jordan fan such as myself.

Just listed all my Michael Jordan basketball cards on Ebay as I'm sure the value will plummet as more people find out this shocking information.

HylianNightmare
04-30-2022, 07:24 AM
Rangz

8Ball
04-30-2022, 08:42 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/Gh03gLtQ/Le-Bron-s-Comp-Was-WAY-Better.png

And we don't make these things up bois because facts are facts.

Why are LeBron's finals opponent so great vs Jordans?

That insidehoops thread spanned years without anyone being able to answer what the best final team jordan faced was, and was it even better than the 2012 okc team.

Baller789
04-30-2022, 09:01 AM
Why are LeBron's finals opponent so great vs Jordans?

That insidehoops thread spanned years without anyone being able to answer what the best final team jordan faced was, and was it even better than the 2012 okc team.

So youre saying Jordan's opponents had a harder path to the finals because of better competition thus the lower efficiency numbers?

Interesting. :bowdown:

8Ball
04-30-2022, 09:33 AM
2012 OKC had a harder path to the finals that any Jordan opponent team so no what you wrote has nothin to do with what I said.

Shooter
04-30-2022, 04:40 PM
Why are LeBron's finals opponent so great vs Jordans?

That insidehoops thread spanned years without anyone being able to answer what the best final team jordan faced was, and was it even better than the 2012 okc team.

And still after all this time the Jordan stain remain complacent and silent They know better than to speak up about MJ's competition.

Full Court
04-30-2022, 08:10 PM
Of course Bronie's opponents had better efficiency than MJ's, ya jackwad. Defense in the 90s made it MUCH harder to be efficient. Then again, you'd have to actually understand the game of basketball to be able to grasp that.

Try harder next time.

Cyrus334
04-30-2022, 08:52 PM
Another dumb misleading statistic used by Lebron slurpers to make their queen look better than he actually is. :lol

You wanna see a real eye opener?

https://i.ibb.co/CWRPQtW/addtext-com-MTUy-Nz-U0-Mjkz-ODk.jpg

Imagine having to only face 3 1st team All-NBA players over a 14 year span in your conference. No wonder his ass got stomped in the Finals whenever he got there since he got to actually play real superstar competition .

SATAN
04-30-2022, 08:57 PM
He beat the best team of all time with a league cancer as his sidekick.

Shooter
04-30-2022, 09:03 PM
He beat the best team of all time with a league cancer as his sidekick.

BINGO :pimp:

kawhileonard2
04-30-2022, 10:05 PM
He beat the best team of all time with a league cancer as his sidekick.

You mean a guy who outplayed the unanimous MVP? Imagine Lebron having Kyrie this year instead of Kyrie in 2016. They would have lost in round 1 as well.

Best team all time is always up in the series BTW. Never down 3-1 in a series.

Shooter
04-30-2022, 10:20 PM
You mean a guy who outplayed the unanimous MVP? Imagine Lebron having Kyrie this year instead of Kyrie in 2016. They would have lost in round 1 as well.

Best team all time is always up in the series BTW. Never down 3-1 in a series.

I didn't see Kyrie outplaying anybody in the 1st round versus Boston this year?

What. Changed.

kawhileonard2
04-30-2022, 10:25 PM
I didn't see Kyrie outplaying anybody in the 1st round versus Boston this year?

What. Changed.

Yeah but 2016 Kyrie because a Pandemic didn't happen. You switch that Kyrie to this and then what happens? Or you switch Kyrie to say pandemic is in 2015 and then what happens.

Answer these as well

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2

Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.

Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360

Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.

LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html



"The weatherman says the weather is changing soon and predicts a thunderstorm," LeBron wrote alongside a photo of himself and Anthony Davis. "It's coming. Prepare and take proper caution measures to stay safe."


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html

First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503422-LeBron-getting-scoring-leader-again-being-all-time-playoff-scorer-most-triple-dou%85

Chris Broussard mentioned Jordan 9 had buzzer beaters in his career and #1. Kobe and Joe Johnson 8 buzzer beaters and Lebron 7. This includes season and playoffs. Despite Lebron playing more games than either.

Axe
05-01-2022, 07:14 AM
Slick, didn't we already have a thread like this before? Lol.

Baller789
05-01-2022, 09:27 AM
2012 OKC had a harder path to the finals that any Jordan opponent team so no what you wrote has nothin to do with what I said.

So youre now admitting that the 90's teams played better defense thus lowering offensive efficiency overall.

Interesting... :lebronamazed:

Baller789
05-01-2022, 09:30 AM
He beat the best team of all time with a league cancer as his sidekick.

Which demsontrates the mental dishonesty of Bronies.

Kyrie wasn't that much of a distraction back then.
And he beat a 73 win team which was a vastly overrated postseason team as shown vs the Rockets.

Shooter
05-01-2022, 03:54 PM
Slick, didn't we already have a thread like this before? Lol.

No slick, they all got deleted so I need to restock my website.

BigShotBob
05-01-2022, 09:15 PM
Another dumb misleading statistic used by Lebron slurpers to make their queen look better than he actually is. :lol

You wanna see a real eye opener?

https://i.ibb.co/CWRPQtW/addtext-com-MTUy-Nz-U0-Mjkz-ODk.jpg

Imagine having to only face 3 1st team All-NBA players over a 14 year span in your conference. No wonder his ass got stomped in the Finals whenever he got there since he got to actually play real superstar competition .

It's over

Baller789
05-01-2022, 11:17 PM
Damn. 10 finals trips from the East but faced only 3 1st team All-NBA?

That's some weaksauce right there.

Johnny32
05-02-2022, 07:52 AM
yeah jordan's finals competition was laughably bad in comparison to legoat's. this is common knowledge.

Baller789
05-02-2022, 10:23 AM
yeah jordan's finals competition was laughably bad in comparison to legoat's. this is common knowledge.

Of course they'd look worse. They couldn't beat the Bulls.

Bronie on the other hand had a decade of free bye's to the Finals yet still couldn't win even half his attempts.

Not to mention he loves giving his opposite number the FMVP.

Embarrassing. :lol

TheGoatest
05-02-2022, 06:21 PM
No joke, I've actually heard jordon extremists claim that the best team jordon ever faced in the playoffs was a 58-24 team whose best player by far averaged 19.5 ppg, 2.9 rpg and 2.1 apg. :roll:

Shooter
05-02-2022, 08:15 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Gh03gLtQ/Le-Bron-s-Comp-Was-WAY-Better.png

And we don't make these things up bois because facts are facts.

Guys?

3ba11
05-02-2022, 08:22 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Gh03gLtQ/Le-Bron-s-Comp-Was-WAY-Better.png

And we don't make these things up bois because facts are facts.

Guys?


It's a dumb chart that reflects a top heavy league of 2 super-teams and then bummy teams, versus a parity league with many contenders where the title is up for grabs

Baller789
05-02-2022, 10:30 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Gh03gLtQ/Le-Bron-s-Comp-Was-WAY-Better.png

And we don't make these things up bois because facts are facts.

Guys?

Your misleading chart has already been debunked the GOATEST. And replying to yourself only makes you look more desperate. :lol

Baller789
05-02-2022, 10:31 PM
No joke, I've actually heard jordon extremists claim that the best team jordon ever faced in the playoffs was a 58-24 team whose best player by far averaged 19.5 ppg, 2.9 rpg and 2.1 apg. :roll:

Well at least Jordan didn't get sonned by 6'2 role player in the finals. :D

Shooter
05-03-2022, 01:42 AM
Well at least Jordan didn't get sonned by 6'2 role player in the finals. :D

Um...

96 Finals? Gary Payton...

Baller789
05-03-2022, 10:12 AM
Um...

96 Finals? Gary Payton...

Winning Finals MVP is now getting sonned?
:yaohappy:

Your hero on the other hand got outscored and beat by a 6'3 role player.
:roll:

Mr. Woke
05-03-2022, 10:56 AM
The 90s NBA had a weaker talent pool.

LeBron has played in a tougher, more talented, and more competitive NBA.

LeBron is the GOAT.

Baller789
05-03-2022, 09:17 PM
The 90s NBA had a weaker talent pool.

LeBron has played in a tougher, more talented, and more competitive NBA.

LeBron is the GOAT.
https://i.ibb.co/4mSJHCh/addtext-com-MTUy-Nz-U0-Mjkz-ODk.jpg (https://ibb.co/X25Vq6c)

Looks like Lebron is the one with the weak competition throughout his prime to me.

Shooter
05-03-2022, 10:28 PM
Guys? I'm waiting...
https://i.postimg.cc/Gh03gLtQ/Le-Bron-s-Comp-Was-WAY-Better.png

We don't make these things up because facts are facts.

Mr. Woke
05-03-2022, 10:30 PM
https://i.ibb.co/4mSJHCh/addtext-com-MTUy-Nz-U0-Mjkz-ODk.jpg (https://ibb.co/X25Vq6c)

Looks like Lebron is the one with the weak competition throughout his prime to me.

Each of his Finals opponents had a better postseason net efficiency than the best team that MJ ever faced, and the overall talent pool in the modern era is deeper and more competitive.

Baller789
05-03-2022, 11:33 PM
Each of his Finals opponents had a better postseason net efficiency than the best team that MJ ever faced, and the overall talent pool in the modern era is deeper and more competitive.

That is easily explained by the 90's more defensive era.

This graphic however totally destroys your "better competition" for Lebron argument.

https://i.ibb.co/4mSJHCh/addtext-com-MTUy-Nz-U0-Mjkz-ODk.jpg (https://ibb.co/X25Vq6c)

TheMan
05-04-2022, 12:15 AM
Of course they do. They mostly won against him raising their net eff.

:roll:

TheMan
05-04-2022, 12:54 AM
He beat the best team of all time with a league cancer as his sidekick.

How the hell can a team be the all time best without winning a title you dimwitted Neanderthal? 72-10 with a title >>> 73-9 without a title

Westbrook_Fan
05-04-2022, 01:05 AM
Um...

96 Finals? Gary Payton...

Got his ass...

ImKobe
05-04-2022, 01:49 AM
Um...

96 Finals? Gary Payton...

If that's your definition of getting sonned, what happened to Bran in '11?

Heck, MJ averaged 27.3 ppg on 53.8%TS in that series.

Bran averaged 25.3 ppg on 52.9%TS in the '13 Finals, did he get sonned too?

Cleverness
05-04-2022, 01:51 AM
Hmm, the Advanced True Net Efficiency was lower tho

SATAN
05-04-2022, 01:56 AM
How the hell can a team be the all time best without winning a title you dimwitted Neanderthal? 72-10 with a title >>> 73-9 without a title

It seems like you're either saying MJ had a hell of alot of help or King James and a cancer sidekick would have beat the 72 win team.

Agreed. :cheers:

Baller789
05-04-2022, 10:48 PM
Um...

96 Finals? Gary Payton...


Got his ass...

You fingerin your own @rs3 again goaTITs?

Shooter
05-04-2022, 10:51 PM
Guys? I'm waiting...

https://i.postimg.cc/Gh03gLtQ/Le-Bron-s-Comp-Was-WAY-Better.png

Baller789
05-05-2022, 05:27 AM
Guys? I'm special...
https://i.ibb.co/bBH8bPb/images.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


You got that right goaTITs.

Shooter
05-06-2022, 10:22 PM
Is this all it takes to diminish a fragile legacy? Post one literal fact? :lol

kawhileonard2
05-06-2022, 10:25 PM
Lebron would have lost in round 1 out West those years. He lost to every elite big he faced even with HCA. Dwight, KG, Duncan, Dirk all beat him. Imagine 1998 gauntlet of having to play Hakeem,Barkley, Drexler, then Duncan,Robinson and then Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

Shooter
05-06-2022, 10:30 PM
Lebron would have lost in round 1 out West those years. He lost to every elite big he faced even with HCA. Dwight, KG, Duncan, Dirk all beat him. Imagine 1998 gauntlet of having to play Hakeem,Barkley, Drexler, then Duncan,Robinson and then Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

LeBron was the only one to beat the Warriors in FOUR YEARS

2015
2016
2017
2018

Warriors were 12 and 0 vs the West :lol

kawhileonard2
05-06-2022, 10:35 PM
Lebron would have lost in round 1 out West those years. He lost to every elite big he faced even with HCA. Dwight, KG, Duncan, Dirk all beat him. Imagine 1998 gauntlet of having to play Hakeem,Barkley, Drexler, then Duncan,Robinson and then Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

Answer it!

Shooter
05-06-2022, 10:37 PM
Answer it!

LeBron was the only one to beat the Warriors in FOUR YEARS

2015
2016
2017
2018

Warriors were 12 and 0 vs the West :lol

kawhileonard2
05-06-2022, 10:42 PM
LeBron was the only one to beat the Warriors in FOUR YEARS

2015
2016
2017
2018

Warriors were 12 and 0 vs the West :lol

Lebron would have lost in round 1 out West those years. He lost to every elite big he faced even with HCA. Dwight, KG, Duncan, Dirk all beat him. Imagine 1998 gauntlet of having to play Hakeem,Barkley, Drexler, then Duncan,Robinson and then Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

Lebron got swept by the Warriors. James Harden the real King James got 3 games off the Warriors with KD around. When KD was around with Lebron this is what KD did to Lebron. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Shooter
05-06-2022, 10:46 PM
Lebron would have lost in round 1 out West those years. He lost to every elite big he faced even with HCA. Dwight, KG, Duncan, Dirk all beat him. Imagine 1998 gauntlet of having to play Hakeem,Barkley, Drexler, then Duncan,Robinson and then Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

Lebron got swept by the Warriors. James Harden the real King James got 3 games off the Warriors with KD around. When KD was around with Lebron this is what KD did to Lebron. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

You said that already and then I came in your mouth. Response?

kawhileonard2
05-06-2022, 10:50 PM
You said that already and then I came in your mouth. Response?

You said that already and a I broke you. Fact or Fiction? Answer it

Lebron would have lost in round 1 out West those years. He lost to every elite big he faced even with HCA. Dwight, KG, Duncan, Dirk all beat him. Imagine 1998 gauntlet of having to play Hakeem,Barkley, Drexler, then Duncan,Robinson and then Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

Lebron got swept by the Warriors. James Harden the real King James got 3 games off the Warriors with KD around. When KD was around with Lebron this is what KD did to Lebron. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Shooter
05-06-2022, 10:52 PM
You said that already and a I broke you. Fact or Fiction? Answer it

Lebron would have lost in round 1 out West those years. He lost to every elite big he faced even with HCA. Dwight, KG, Duncan, Dirk all beat him. Imagine 1998 gauntlet of having to play Hakeem,Barkley, Drexler, then Duncan,Robinson and then Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

Lebron got swept by the Warriors. James Harden the real King James got 3 games off the Warriors with KD around. When KD was around with Lebron this is what KD did to Lebron. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Do you think if the 2018 Cavs had Chris Paul, Eric Gordon, Clint Capela, and Trevor Arizaa instead of Rodney Hood and Larry Nance they don't win the series? :lol

Child please, that Rockets team was DEEP and had PRIME Harden and near PRIME CP3. That's a good fu**ing team.

kawhileonard2
05-06-2022, 10:56 PM
Do you think if the 2018 Cavs had Chris Paul, Eric Gordon, Clint Capela, and Trevor Arizaa instead of Rodney Hood and Larry Nance they don't win the series? :lol

Child please, that Rockets team was DEEP and had PRIME Harden and near PRIME CP3. That's a good fu**ing team.

Lebron had peak Duncan and Iverson and won bronze medal.
Lebron had Shaq and lost in round 2 while Wade with Shaq won a title and Kobe with Shaq won 3 titles. Need I say more?

Shooter
05-06-2022, 11:35 PM
Lebron had peak Duncan and Iverson and won bronze medal.
Lebron had Shaq and lost in round 2 while Wade with Shaq won a title and Kobe with Shaq won 3 titles. Need I say more?

I know you're retarded and all but...

Shaq was in his prime in 2000
Shaq was fading fast in 2006 (he had a 5 point and 9 point Finals game in 2006) :lol
WTF do you think he was by 2010?

Rookie fan.

kawhileonard2
05-06-2022, 11:43 PM
I know you're retarded and all but...

Shaq was in his prime in 2000
Shaq was fading fast in 2006 (he had a 5 point and 9 point Finals game in 2006) :lol
WTF do you think he was by 2010?

Rookie fan.

Shaq had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp as well led the league in scoring when he joined Lebron. Is this fact or fiction?