the 2001 lakers is the best team of all time. Fight me.

[paksat]

Been watching these games vs the spurs and their defense is just astonishing. You think of shaq and kobe and you think scoring, but fisher, horry, fox are EVERYWHERE. In just this game alone that I've quit watching as they're up by 47 they've amassed over 17 offensive rebounds while shooting 49 percent.

the thought of the 17 warriors beating this team is comical. Duncan and robinson are two hall of famers and they're losing by... fifty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQQuPXluYk4&t=5824s&ab_channel=TremendousUpside

the warriors, no one for that matter, have a chance vs this team. they only dropped 1 game to iverson the entire playoffs and I believe they had won the last 7 in a row in the regular season. So You're talking about a team had won like 24 straight at one point in the gauntlet of the west.

Ok, that's all.

[k0kakw0rld]

STFU please

[Shooter]

Weak, WEAK Finals competition.

Peak Shaq and near peak Kobe is a strong duo but they aren't beating the 2016 Cavaliers, 2016 Warriors, 2020 Lakers, 2017 Warriors and that's just within the last 6 years or so.

[paksat]

Weak, WEAK Finals competition.

Peak Shaq and near peak Kobe is a strong duo but they aren't beating the 2016 Cavaliers, 2016 Warriors, 2020 Lakers, 2017 Warriors and that's just within the last 6 years or so.

how old are you?

[paksat]

Weak, WEAK Finals competition.

Peak Shaq and near peak Kobe is a strong duo but they aren't beating the 2016 Cavaliers, 2016 Warriors, 2020 Lakers, 2017 Warriors and that's just within the last 6 years or so.

two top five players of all time aren't beating the 2020 lakers

LOL

[John_Connor]

the fact that they just brushed aside the spurs and kings makes them easily the goat team

it was the end of shaqs peak and the beginning of kobes prime. both healthy at the same time too which never happened any other playoffs

[SouBeachTalents]

Been watching these games vs the spurs and their defense is just astonishing. You think of shaq and kobe and you think scoring, but fisher, horry, fox are EVERYWHERE. In just this game alone that I've quit watching as they're up by 47 they've amassed over 17 offensive rebounds while shooting 49 percent.

the thought of the 17 warriors beating this team is comical. Duncan and robinson are two hall of famers and they're losing by... fifty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQQuPXluYk4&t=5824s&ab_channel=TremendousUpside

the warriors, no one for that matter, have a chance vs this team. they only dropped 1 game to iverson the entire playoffs and I believe they had won the last 7 in a row in the regular season. So You're talking about a team had won like 24 straight at one point in the gauntlet of the west.

Ok, that's all.
You can believe the '01 Lakers are the greatest team ever, a very legitimate opinion to have, but the bolded is indefensibly stupid and hyperbolic.

[FKAri]

If Shaq gets in foul trouble, they lose to almost any ATG team. That's the problem with the 2001 Lakers. They are too top heavy. If you're playing with modern rules, a team like The Bulls would be able to exploit Shaq on switches and put a ton of pressure on him to move around on defense and eventually get him into foul trouble. It comes down to if you think Shaq has the discipline to make the adjustment. I don't think he does.

[John_Connor]

You can believe the '01 Lakers are the greatest team ever, a very legitimate opinion to have, but the bolded is indefensibly stupid and hyperbolic.

the 2001 Lakers aren't the greatest collection of talent. but they are basically a prime wilt/jordan type impact combo and by far the most dominant 1/2 punch in sports history other than maybe babe ruth and Lou gehrig. but baseball isn't a sport where a team can be carried by 2 guys. the nba is and sometimes just one guy like that can carry a team to a title. bit having 2 guys of that caliber will never be seen again.


magic and Kareem never came close to matching primes and no other top 5 all time talents ever teamed up other than those 4 guys. it will probably never be seen again.


and then everyone else was a perfect complimentary piece. kobes defense during that time was insane. so was shaqs shot blocking. the team defense and open shot making ability was perfect. guys knew their roles. and it's rare anyone with kobes talent would let another guy take over the finals after kobe got them there and just let the guy with the bigger ego take over when the tougher job was already completed.

AD let lebron do it but they didn't steam roll the playoffs and the competition was pretty lame and the title doesnt count anyway.


the 2001 Lakers would bully any team ever as long as the rules are the same and legit basketball. not today's crap where breathing on a guy draws a foul

[SouBeachTalents]

the 2001 Lakers aren't the greatest collection of talent. but they are basically a prime wilt/jordan type impact combo and by far the most dominant 1/2 punch in sports history other than maybe babe ruth and Lou gehrig. but baseball isn't a sport where a team can be carried by 2 guys. the nba is and sometimes just one guy like that can carry a team to a title. bit having 2 guys of that caliber will never be seen again.


magic and Kareem never came close to matching primes and no other top 5 all time talents ever teamed up other than those 4 guys. it will probably never be seen again.


and then everyone else was a perfect complimentary piece. kobes defense during that time was insane. so was shaqs shot blocking. the team defense and open shot making ability was perfect. guys knew their roles. and it's rare anyone with kobes talent would let another guy take over the finals after kobe got them there and just let the guy with the bigger ego take over when the tougher job was already completed.

AD let lebron do it but they didn't steam roll the playoffs and the competition was pretty lame and the title doesnt count anyway.


the 2001 Lakers would bully any team ever as long as the rules are the same and legit basketball. not today's crap where breathing on a guy draws a foul
None of that changes the fact that OP's claim that no team in history "has a chance" against them is very, very dumb, esp considering a team as historically mediocre as the '01 Sixers beat them and played them down to the wire in 2 other games.

And it's honestly pretty remarkable you managed to somehow throw in a shot at LeBron in a thread that's about the '01 Lakers. He really did a number on you :lol

[SATAN]

Been watching these games vs the spurs and their defense is just astonishing. You think of shaq and kobe and you think scoring, but fisher, horry, fox are EVERYWHERE. In just this game alone that I've quit watching as they're up by 47 they've amassed over 17 offensive rebounds while shooting 49 percent.

the thought of the 17 warriors beating this team is comical. Duncan and robinson are two hall of famers and they're losing by... fifty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQQuPXluYk4&t=5824s&ab_channel=TremendousUpside

the warriors, no one for that matter, have a chance vs this team. they only dropped 1 game to iverson the entire playoffs and I believe they had won the last 7 in a row in the regular season. So You're talking about a team had won like 24 straight at one point in the gauntlet of the west.

Ok, that's all.

You are literally wrong almost always. It's unbelievable.

[LAL]

Horry, fox & fisher... amazing.

[Phoenix]

None of that changes the fact that OP's claim that no team in history "has a chance" against them is very, very dumb, esp considering a team as historically mediocre as the '01 Sixers beat them and played them down to the wire in 2 other games.

And it's honestly pretty remarkable you managed to somehow throw in a shot at LeBron in a thread that's about the '01 Lakers. He really did a number on you :lol

It's interesting that the east had the reputation for being 'weak' in this period, but the Sixers were the ones who gave them the most trouble in the playoffs, with the least amount of star power to boot.

[John_Connor]

None of that changes the fact that OP's claim that no team in history "has a chance" against them is very, very dumb, esp considering a team as historically mediocre as the '01 Sixers beat them and played them down to the wire in 2 other games.

And it's honestly pretty remarkable you managed to somehow throw in a shot at LeBron in a thread that's about the '01 Lakers. He really did a number on you :lol

the Lakers switched up their gameplan for the finals and went away from what made them so dominant by just feeding shaq every time instead of riding kobes elevated status and play that swept the spurs and kings. shaqs ego and the 2 weeks off before the finals is why they had close games with philly

[John_Connor]

Horry, fox & fisher... amazing.

if they were stars the team would have been worse. you can't have 2 guys averaging 30ppg and throw in more egos

[fsvr54]

Anyone who thinks the Warriors are better is on crack. Always the usual suspects like Satan and SouthBeachTalents.

[Phoenix]

the Lakers switched up their gameplan for the finals and went away from what made them so dominant by just feeding shaq every time instead of riding kobes elevated status and play that swept the spurs and kings. shaqs ego and the 2 weeks off before the finals is why they had close games with philly

Only one of them really had to play defense in the finals so why not feed the other one who didn't?

[SouBeachTalents]

the Lakers switched up their gameplan for the finals and went away from what made them so dominant by just feeding shaq every time instead of riding kobes elevated status and play that swept the spurs and kings. shaqs ego and the 2 weeks off before the finals is why they had close games with philly
Kobe was absolutely atrocious in Game 1, if he has anything better than a terrible game, the Lakers win Game 1, so you're not going to scapegoat the strategy for why they lost Game 1.

And ironically, in their close wins in Games 2 & 3, Kobe took more shots than Shaq, 53-39 over the 2 games. Then in Games 4 & 5, when the Lakers went back to their dominant ways, Shaq outshot Kobe 43-31.

[RRR3]

Anyone who thinks they would have a chance against them 17 Warriors fails basic math.

[tpols]

None of that changes the fact that OP's claim that no team in history "has a chance" against them is very, very dumb, esp considering a team as historically mediocre as the '01 Sixers beat them and played them down to the wire in 2 other games.

And it's honestly pretty remarkable you managed to somehow throw in a shot at LeBron in a thread that's about the '01 Lakers. He really did a number on you :lol

The Durant curry warriors would have absolutely nobody to guard Shaq since they had trash at center like zaza pachulia. Or you can let dray foul out. Kobe was slamming on the twin towers the warriors would get pounded in the paint. It would all come down to if the splash bros could bang a ton of 3s.

[LAL]

if they were stars the team would have been worse. you can't have 2 guys averaging 30ppg and throw in more egos

It's not "best team of all time" material.

[Phoenix]

Kobe was absolutely atrocious in Game 1, if he has anything better than a terrible game, the Lakers win Game 1, so you're not going to scapegoat the strategy for why they lost Game 1.

And ironically, in their close wins in Games 2 & 3, Kobe took more shots than Shaq, 53-39 over the 2 games. Then in Games 4 & 5, when the Lakers went back to their dominant ways, Shaq outshot Kobe 43-31.

Feeding Shaq made perfect sense in this context: the three Sixer players with the most fouls were the starting C Mutumbo( 23), starting PF Hill( 21) and backup center Geiger( 20). When you have a singular force like 2001 Shaq who can compromise your entire interior defense, why wouldn't they maximize that advantage? Feeding Kobe so he can drop his 30ppg while also having to run around guarding Iverson who dropped 36ppg, when you have a distinct edge in the middle with Shaq whose positional counterpart dropped half his scoring volume....this is peak Kenneth logic.

[paksat]

Anyone who thinks they would have a chance against them 17 Warriors fails basic math.

I guess since the lakers don't shoot as many 3's they automatically lose, such is the life in 2022 of highly ADVANCED metrics.

[Shooter]

I guess since the lakers don't shoot as many 3's they automatically lose, such is the life in 2022 of highly ADVANCED metrics.

DUH

League average 3PA per game
2001: 13.7
2020: 34.1

[Soundwave]

Weak, WEAK Finals competition.

Peak Shaq and near peak Kobe is a strong duo but they aren't beating the 2016 Cavaliers, 2016 Warriors, 2020 Lakers, 2017 Warriors and that's just within the last 6 years or so.


lol they'd cook all of those teams except maybe the 17 Warriors with Durant. There they probably have met their match.

[John_Connor]

Kobe was absolutely atrocious in Game 1.

yeah cause shaq ruined the team chemistry along with the layoff impact cause they got through their games way quicker. Shaq was always trying to hijack the team from kobe

2001 after the 2 series sweeps

2002 after kobe destroyed sanantonio again

2003 after his 40 point streak and him crying to Phil that caused him to ask kobe to dial it back. Shaq also said "if you don't feed the dog the dog won't guard the house" basically admitting he would intentionally lose

after kobe got them to the finals in 2004 and shaq wanted all the shots again after he coasted all season for the 4th straight year kobe just said f*ck it and took horrible shots vs double teams and told management he was signing with Chicago or the clippers cause of him and they traded his ass

it was always shaq who cost them the greatest run ever as a duo. fighting kobe in practice and having freeze out signals or saying he couldn't win without him. he was a cancerous journeyman and even he admitted all these things. he didn't learn how to be a good teammate till Gary Payton took him aside in 2006 and told him it was wades team from now on. kobe was a great complimentary teammate from day one.

[Shooter]

lol they'd cook all of those teams except maybe the 17 Warriors with Durant. There they probably have met their match.

I don't think any team beats a prime peak 2016 LeBron and Kyrie but that's just me.

[8Ball]

2017 warriors and 2001 lakers are probably greatest 2 teams of all time.

[Soundwave]

I don't think any team beats a prime peak 2016 LeBron and Kyrie but that's just me.

Several teams would, for one the 2017 Warriors would destroy them. The 2016 Warriors should have beaten them too, they just got lax after getting up 3-1 and Draymond was a dummy to get suspended.

16 Cavs don't belong in the conversation with the legit best teams like the 01 Lakers, 96 Bulls, 80s Lakers, Celtics, 17 Warriors, 92 Bulls, etc. etc.

I think the 16 Cavs lose to the Kawhi Raptors, they basically beat Step/Klay/Draymond too without falling behind like that.

[Bankaii]

two top five players of all time
Kobe has no argument for top 5 lmao. Even Shaq can be argued out of it.

Kobe historically struggled against top perimeter defenses in the playoffs (great defenses in general, but particularly perimeter-oriented defenses).
Him having to actually guard someone, chasing Steph/Klay around or getting absolutely torched by KD all series would drain him.
Shaq can dominate all he wants. We just say what happened to Rudy Gobert, now imagine Steph/Klay/KD around the perimeter instead of the Mavs :oldlol:

[Gohan]

I agree with op they even beat the juggernaut iverson. Of course iverson was gonna win a game when no one else couldnt. Three top 10 players of all time in 1 series amazing

[paksat]

Kobe has no argument for top 5 lmao. Even Shaq can be argued out of it.

Kobe historically struggled against top perimeter defenses in the playoffs (great defenses in general, but particularly perimeter-oriented defenses).
Him having to actually guard someone, chasing Steph/Klay around or getting absolutely torched by KD all series would drain him.
Shaq can dominate all he wants. We just say what happened to Rudy Gobert, now imagine Steph/Klay/KD around the perimeter instead of the Mavs :oldlol:

kobe has won five championships, is a 30 ppg scorer with ease in his prime, and can play great defense if he tries on top of it.

lebron isn't better than kobe in his wettest dreams, and he's top 2? Yeh rokay, can't out shoot kobe, ball handling isn't even the same league, post up isn't in the same league, defense isn't in the same league.. i'm sorry what?

[fourkicks44]

Horry, fox & fisher... amazing.

They bailed the team out over and over again.

They don't even get close without these guys.

Game two of the finals was the Sixers game till Fisher put Shaq and Kobe on his back and saved them.

Lakers were so close to going down 2-0 in that series people forget.

[ShawkFactory]

I think it’s fair to say the the 01 Lakers and 17 Warriors beat each other in their respective eras.

They have no answer for Shaq but if they’re running and cutting all game with the new rules then it makes things difficult for him.

[SouBeachTalents]

yeah cause shaq ruined the team chemistry along with the layoff impact cause they got through their games way quicker. Shaq was always trying to hijack the team from kobe

2001 after the 2 series sweeps

2002 after kobe destroyed sanantonio again

2003 after his 40 point streak and him crying to Phil that caused him to ask kobe to dial it back. Shaq also said "if you don't feed the dog the dog won't guard the house" basically admitting he would intentionally lose

after kobe got them to the finals in 2004 and shaq wanted all the shots again after he coasted all season for the 4th straight year kobe just said f*ck it and took horrible shots vs double teams and told management he was signing with Chicago or the clippers cause of him and they traded his ass

it was always shaq who cost them the greatest run ever as a duo. fighting kobe in practice and having freeze out signals or saying he couldn't win without him. he was a cancerous journeyman and even he admitted all these things. he didn't learn how to be a good teammate till Gary Payton took him aside in 2006 and told him it was wades team from now on. kobe was a great complimentary teammate from day one.
Yeah yeah yeah, it was all Shaq's fault. Kobe deserves zero blame for anything :lol I see you had absolutely no explanation for this btw


the Lakers switched up their gameplan for the finals and went away from what made them so dominant by just feeding shaq every time instead of riding kobes elevated status and play that swept the spurs and kings. shaqs ego and the 2 weeks off before the finals is why they had close games with philly


And ironically, in their close wins in Games 2 & 3, Kobe took more shots than Shaq, 53-39 over the 2 games. Then in Games 4 & 5, when the Lakers went back to their dominant ways, Shaq outshot Kobe 43-31.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

the fact that they just brushed aside the spurs and kings makes them easily the goat team

it was the end of shaqs peak and the beginning of kobes prime. both healthy at the same time too which never happened any other playoffs

i feel like 2002 might be the best playoff run of shaqs career though

he had an on\off at +22.9

and kobe struggled in the kings series while shaq dominated

[SouBeachTalents]

i feel like 2002 might be the best playoff run of shaqs career though

he had an on\off at +22.9

and kobe struggled in the kings series while shaq dominated
GTFOH :lol Literally zero argument over 2000.

[999Guy]

Glad you brought up the defense. The single biggest reason they stomped on everyone so hard.

Shaq offenses are always gonna be elite in the playoffs, but the entire rotation was on fire defensively.

Derek Fisher was on fire in everything. He was basically a no stats superstar for a month there.

[BarberSchool]

Shaq was a real force, but numerous teams would beat the 2001 Lakers.

[Real Men Wear Green]

We saw Shaq Penny and a supporting cast that had better scorers get swept by Jordan's Bulls. Bryant that year (not career peak just talking that season) was maybe a little better than Penny but I don't see enough of a difference to overcome the fact that a prime Shaq team got swept by Jordan's Bulls.

[Bankaii]

kobe has won five championships, is a 30 ppg scorer with ease in his prime, and can play great defense if he tries on top of it.

lebron isn't better than kobe in his wettest dreams, and he's top 2? Yeh rokay, can't out shoot kobe, ball handling isn't even the same league, post up isn't in the same league, defense isn't in the same league.. i'm sorry what?
Wtf does lebron have to do with this you obsessed retard?

Lebron being better than Kobe isn’t even worth debating anymore:oldlol:

[John_Connor]

Yeah yeah yeah, it was all Shaq's fault. Kobe deserves zero blame for anything :lol I see you had absolutely no explanation for this btw

kobe complimented shaq. shaq never tried to compliment anyone but himself till he got to miami

[John_Connor]

We saw Shaq Penny and a supporting cast that had better scorers get swept by Jordan's Bulls. Bryant that year (not career peak just talking that season) was maybe a little better than Penny but I don't see enough of a difference to overcome the fact that a prime Shaq team got swept by Jordan's Bulls.

2001 kobe averaged 29/7/6 in the playoffs and was 2nd team all defense ( shoulda been 1st )

1996 penny averaged 23/5/6 in the playoffs and never came close to an all defensive team


lol what


when has penny ever done anything like this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7QZaZJu2yM&ab_channel=kobefan124

[SATAN]

kobe has won five championships, is a 30 ppg scorer with ease in his prime, and can play great defense if he tries on top of it.

lebron isn't better than kobe in his wettest dreams, and he's top 2? Yeh rokay, can't out shoot kobe, ball handling isn't even the same league, post up isn't in the same league, defense isn't in the same league.. i'm sorry what?

:roll:

:facepalm

[John_Connor]

:roll:

:facepalm

dunno what you're laughing at


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5YyYpbqpaI&ab_channel=YounGala


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeUQhhrVtsM&ab_channel=UncutHoops


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCk7pm8zV4k&ab_channel=HandlesUP

[SATAN]

I only take NBA players opinions' seriously when it aligns with my Kobe agenda



https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/3b/03/843b03329e27ecdd85c64147e227ee54.jpg

[John_Connor]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/3b/03/843b03329e27ecdd85c64147e227ee54.jpg

how can you argue with the majority of guys that played with and against kobe and lebron


even all of lebrons teammates are team kobe lol.. lebron literally doesn't even have any friends backing him up other than that ryan hollins guy

[SATAN]

"Team Kobe" are known as an actual cult of retards to non Kobe stans. No exaggeration. Whether they play or not is irrelevant. LeBron James is a better all round basketball player.

/Thread.

[John_Connor]

"Team Kobe" are known as an actual cult of retards to non Kobe stans. No exaggeration. Whether they play or not is irrelevant. LeBron James is a better all round basketball player.

/Thread.

this isn't my thread and its not even about kobe vs lebron so how can you end it even if you had any point that made any sense whatsoever


and calling all players past and present retards or kobe cult fans is low IQ

[paksat]

this isn't my thread and its not even about kobe vs lebron so how can you end it even if you had any point that made any sense whatsoever


and calling all players past and present retards or kobe cult fans is low IQ

only reason I brought it up is because people wanna act like lebron is so great, yet he literally has nothing but passing skills over kobe. I don't even like kobe, but compared to lebron he has zero flaws. Only guards I would take over him is prime wade and the obvious. You also have prime shaq on this team? Coached by phil jackson? Proof is in the video, they're a polished winning machine

[SATAN]

only reason I brought it up is because people wanna act like lebron is so great, yet he literally has nothing but passing skills over kobe. I don't even like kobe, but compared to lebron he has zero flaws.

:oldlol:

Who's gimmick account is this?

[NBAGOAT]

Duncan and Robinson were hofers but Robinson was past his prime. Makes the win a little less impressive. My counter to your claim is once the lakers faced elite competition in 00 and 02 with basically the same team, they got taken to 7. They’re not head and shoulders above 96 bulls 17 warriors 86 Celtics etc

[LAL]

They bailed the team out over and over again.

They don't even get close without these guys.

Game two of the finals was the Sixers game till Fisher put Shaq and Kobe on his back and saved them.

Lakers were so close to going down 2-0 in that series people forget.

Fisher... amazing. Best team ever.

[Spurs m8]

One game is a fantastic sample size

[nayte]

If Shaq gets in foul trouble, they lose to almost any ATG team. That's the problem with the 2001 Lakers. They are too top heavy. If you're playing with modern rules, a team like The Bulls would be able to exploit Shaq on switches and put a ton of pressure on him to move around on defense and eventually get him into foul trouble. It comes down to if you think Shaq has the discipline to make the adjustment. I don't think he does.

Yeah this. It depends on what the refs will call. While Lakers would have trouble on the perimeter I'm not sure how any of the new teams would handle Shaq inside. Would be fun to watch tho

[paksat]

One game is a fantastic sample size

how about the enitre playoffs?

[JBSptfn]

Now, its 100% official: The 2001 Lakers are the most overrated team in sports history, bar none.

[Bronbron23]

Been watching these games vs the spurs and their defense is just astonishing. You think of shaq and kobe and you think scoring, but fisher, horry, fox are EVERYWHERE. In just this game alone that I've quit watching as they're up by 47 they've amassed over 17 offensive rebounds while shooting 49 percent.

the thought of the 17 warriors beating this team is comical. Duncan and robinson are two hall of famers and they're losing by... fifty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQQuPXluYk4&t=5824s&ab_channel=TremendousUpside

the warriors, no one for that matter, have a chance vs this team. they only dropped 1 game to iverson the entire playoffs and I believe they had won the last 7 in a row in the regular season. So You're talking about a team had won like 24 straight at one point in the gauntlet of the west.

Ok, that's all.

Maybe but it's impossible to say. They were definitely one of the best ever.

[JBSptfn]

Shaq was a real force, but numerous teams would beat the 2001 Lakers.

Yes. The teams from the 80's (83 Sixers, 86 Celtics, 87 Lakers, 89 Pistons, and even the 86 Rockets) would wipe the floor with the 01 Flukers. That Laker team beat a Blazer team that was a shell of what it once was, a Kings team pre-Bibby, a Spurs team without DA (and I think the Admiral was partially hurt), and one of the worst Finals teams ever.

[ImKobe]

Easily.

Most dominant big man in the game, paired with the best 2-way perimeter player. Clutch role players. ATG coach. No real weakness.

Shaq was MDE through the first 3 quarters and Kobe was easily the best closer in the league in the early 2000s.

[La Frescobaldi]

only reason I brought it up is because people wanna act like lebron is so great, yet he literally has nothing but passing skills over kobe. I don't even like kobe, but compared to lebron he has zero flaws. Only guards I would take over him is prime wade and the obvious. You also have prime shaq on this team? Coached by phil jackson? Proof is in the video, they're a polished winning machine

Magic Johnson was better than James.

Definitely.

[2much_knowledge]

how old are you?

Hes 12

[2much_knowledge]

Weak, WEAK Finals competition.

Peak Shaq and near peak Kobe is a strong duo but they aren't beating the 2016 Cavaliers, 2016 Warriors, 2020 Lakers, 2017 Warriors and that's just within the last 6 years or so.

2001 lakers cant beat a team who lost 2 games to a banged up heat team......

[ImKobe]

2001 lakers cant beat a team who lost 2 games to a banged up heat team......

Casuals (Bran stans) always expose themselves. '01 Lakers went 15 - 1 against four 50-win teams in the Playoffs. Bran is lucky to play more than one good team in half of his Finals runs. Lakers went 11 - 0 in the West. All 3 teams were top 10 on both offense and defense. Sixers had a 13th ranked offense but were also elite defensively and had peak AI, so it's not like they played the worst Finals team in league history either.

Put the '01 Lakers in place of the '20 team in the bubble and they might go 16 - 0 with the injuries their opponents had. None of those teams could guard '01 Shaq or '01 Kobe. The Heat were the only good defensive team that they did play, and even them they were down their best defensive player.

'20 Portland had a sub-.500 record and was ranked 28th on D, Dame got injured as well and Nurkic hadn't played all season prior to the bubble
'20 Rockets were mediocre on defense and played PJ Tucker at the 5 and Westbrook was playing on one leg
'20 Nuggets were the only healthy opponent the Lakers faced in the POs, even then Jokic wasn't quite at his MVP level and the Nuggets were 16th on defense.
'20 Heat obviously had injuries to Dragic & Bam, shouldn't have even gone 6 games, they weren't top 10 defensively on the season either.

So the '20 Lakers played zero top 10 defenses, and 3 of the 4 teams dealt with major injuries. But there's no way that Shaq/Kobe would beat them, right?

[Baller789]

Of course Bronies would try to belittle all the Finals opponents he didn't face.


How else could they make their hero look better when he loses more Finals than he wins?

:biggums:

[rawimpact]

Offensively the 2017 warriors is the all time best