O’Connell: Gobert demanding any Jazz trade within a few days. “Him or me”

[999Guy]

I know I am not usually @utahjazz breaking news guy, but a source close to situation has informed me that Rudy Gobert is at "him or me" point with Donovan Mitchell and will demand that one of them be traded in next few days. Doesn't feel they will win championship together.



Rudy feels that his own numbers are consistent or getting better, while Don is D liability and is falling off in terms of explosiveness. Gobert also aware of at least 1 Western Conference power that would be willing to pay handsomely for his abilities. (NBA teams never tamper..)
https://twitter.com/realocsports/status/1521141215411941376?s=21&t=UoROkAGAAljchA3se7RIWg



If Shaq got traded, Gobert is probably getting traded. Marketable checkers are always more coveted.

But if Rudy goes to GS it will make KD going there feel fair. Draymond/Gobert would be the cruelest defensive combo maybe ever.


If he goes to LAC they immediately are favorites for me.

Pretty much any already good team is gonna be a rare kind of nasty. But if he goes somewhere with defensive it’ll get maybe all-time good.

I wanna know who wants him. Phoenix doesn’t buy Ayton as this elite player which he obviously isn’t. Ayton is basically a giant SF.

[Manny98]

Warriors have the assets to get Rudy - Wiggins + Wiseman + a 1st

[jalbert009]

Warriors have the assets to get Rudy - Wiggins + Wiseman + a 1st

Golden State should not trade Wiggins at all. If they Trade Wiggins then they're gonna loose Poole. Wiggins contract ends at the same time Poole does so they can throw a max deal at Poole when the time comes. Curry, Klay and Dray are already locked in for a few more years. Dubs just need to wait for Wiseman to come back or trade him for another Center if they want

[NBAGOAT]

Golden State should not trade Wiggins at all. If they Trade Wiggins then they're gonna loose Poole. Wiggins contract ends at the same time Poole does so they can throw a max deal at Poole when the time comes. Curry, Klay and Dray are already locked in for a few more years. Dubs just need to wait for Wiseman to come back or trade him for another Center if they want

Well this isn’t true. The warriors would just pay a historic luxury tax. I don’t like the gobert/dray combo on offense however and the warriors beat lineups will always have dray at the 5. Not worth paying 40 mil to a guy who’ll play 30mpg and sits the end of games

[Xiao Yao You]

Well this isn’t true. The warriors would just pay a historic luxury tax. I don’t like the gobert/dray combo on offense however and the warriors beat lineups will always have dray at the 5. Not worth paying 40 mil to a guy who’ll play 30mpg and sits the end of games

Best line up would have Gobert and green

[Xiao Yao You]

Tony Jones: Rudy Gobert and his agent are waiting for their annual exit meeting with the Utah Jazz, League sources tell The Athletic. That meeting will likely determine how the two sides proceed going forward into the offseason – via Twitter Tjonesonthenba

[FultzNationRISE]

Best line up would have Gobert and green

No it wouldnt.

Your obsession with Rudy Gobert is so weird.

[Xiao Yao You]

No it wouldnt.

Your obsession with Rudy Gobert is so weird.

One of the best players in the league. Nothing weird about it

[LeCola]

Warriors have the assets to get Rudy - Wiggins + Wiseman + a 1st

Why would they trade Wiggins for Gobert?

Wiggins is 3 years younger than Gobert. He is a two way wing, that can both score and defend. He was selected for all star starting 5 this year.

Gobert is a 30 year-old rim protector. His prime is about to be passed.

Also they will add Wiseman and a 1st round?

Come on man...

I think they can trade Mitchell for Wiggins. Utah can get rid of him and they could get a wing that is better on defence.

[NBAGOAT]

Why would they trade Wiggins for Gobert?

Wiggins is 3 years younger than Gobert. He is a two way wing, that can both score and defend. He was selected for all star starting 5 this year.

Gobert is a 30 year-old rim protector. His prime is about to be passed.

Also they will add Wiseman and a 1st round?

Come on man...

I think they can trade Mitchell for Wiggins. Utah can get rid of him and they could get a wing that is better on defence.

gs has too many guards with their splash trio already. They want a better wing than wiggins or an upgrade from looney

[Xiao Yao You]

Why would they trade Wiggins for Gobert?

Wiggins is 3 years younger than Gobert. He is a two way wing, that can both score and defend. He was selected for all star starting 5 this year.

Gobert is a 30 year-old rim protector. His prime is about to be passed.

Also they will add Wiseman and a 1st round?

Come on man...

I think they can trade Mitchell for Wiggins. Utah can get rid of him and they could get a wing that is better on defence.

Mitchell for wiggins
🤣

[LeCola]

gs has too many guards with their splash trio already. They want a better wing than wiggins or an upgrade from looney

Curry is 34, Klay is 32, Green is 32. Their original trio is getting old.

However, Wiggins is 27, Poole is 23. Those 2 guys are the future of the GSW.

[LeCola]

Mitchell for wiggins
��

You always blame Mitchell, you think he is not good.

Wiggins is better defender.

He is all star starter.

What do you want from GSW, Curry?

Do you think Gobert > Curry?

[Xiao Yao You]

You always blame Mitchell, you think he is not good.

Wiggins is better defender.

He is all star starter.

What do you want from GSW, Curry?

Do you think Gobert > Curry?

I don't want anything. I'm just a basketball fan

[FultzNationRISE]

One of the best players in the league. Nothing weird about it

He’s not tho.

He’s a good, solid starter. He’s not close to “One of the best players in the league.”

Your attachment to overrating him is bizarre.

[Xiao Yao You]

He’s not tho.

He’s a good, solid starter. He’s not close to “One of the best players in the league.”

Your attachment to overrating him is bizarre.

3 time DPOTY, 5 time all D, 4 time all NBA. :facepalm

[FultzNationRISE]

3 time DPOTY, 5 time all D, 4 time all NBA. :facepalm


Rim protection isnt as valuable as it used to be in the rapidly developing era of three point shooting. It’s nice that he wins regular season awards for collecting some blocks over 82 games. In the playoffs hes getting smoked every year while providing minimal compensation offensively.

Your attachment to exalting him is irrational and feels more about you and the way you feel comfortable seeing things, than with calling it how it really is.

[WhiteKyrie]

I don't want anything. I'm just a basketball fan

A not knowledgeable one, but sure

[Xiao Yao You]

Rim protection isnt as valuable as it used to be in the rapidly developing era of three point shooting. It’s nice that he wins regular season awards for collecting some blocks over 82 games. In the playoffs hes getting smoked every year while providing minimal compensation offensively.

Your attachment to exalting him is irrational and feels more about you and the way you feel comfortable seeing things, than with calling it how it really is.

He's not getting smoked every year. The D was good this year. Best player in franchise history couldn't hit a shot

A team tries tanking. A player emerges that makes it impossible to tank as hard as you try. Said player carries a franchise on his back for more than 7 years. Seems normal to appreciate that kind of effort to me. I guess I'll have to start looking closer at the scoring leaders, espn highlites and triple double leaders. Shame on me for not doing so sooner! :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

A not knowledgeable one, but sure

I'm not the one calling an all NBA player solid! :oldlol:

[FultzNationRISE]

He's not getting smoked every year. The D was good this year. Best player in franchise history couldn't hit a shot

A team tries tanking. A player emerges that makes it impossible to tank as hard as you try. Said player carries a franchise on his back for more than 7 years. Seems normal to appreciate that kind of effort to me. I guess I'll have to start looking closer at the scoring leaders, espn highlites and triple double leaders. Shame on me for not doing so sooner! :lol

You can appreciate his effort without overstating his actual value on the basketball court.

He's a good player. But he's not carrying anything on his back. If you wanna give him credit for their regular season success you have to apply that same accountability to their post season disappointment.

It's just weird that you insist he's some world-beater who's being held down by everyone around him. That isnt what's happening. Mitchell is overrated, yes. But... youre over rating Toody.

Nobody on that team is amazing. It's that simple.

[FultzNationRISE]

I'm not the one calling an all NBA player solid! :oldlol:

DeAndre Jordan once made all-NBA first team.

Also, the same people whose votes you're using to justify Toody all probably consider Mitchell a franchise player.

So... you dont make sense.

[Xiao Yao You]

You can appreciate his effort without overstating his actual value on the basketball court.

He's a good player. But he's not carrying anything on his back. If you wanna give him credit for their regular season success you have to apply that same accountability to their post season disappointment.

It's just weird that you insist he's some world-beater who's being held down by everyone around him. That isnt what's happening. Mitchell is overrated, yes. But... youre over rating Toody.

Nobody on that team is amazing. It's that simple.

He has carried the franchise even when they wanted to tank instead. That was amazing. No one in franchise history has done the same not even best player in team history

[Xiao Yao You]

DeAndre Jordan once made all-NBA first team.

Also, the same people whose votes you're using to justify Toody all probably consider Mitchell a franchise player.

So... you dont make sense.


once. Annually is a bit different

[Sportal]

Curry is 34, Klay is 32, Green is 32. Their original trio is getting old.

However, Wiggins is 27, Poole is 23. Those 2 guys are the future of the GSW.

Wiggins, Poole, Wiseman, Kuminga... Whole lot of talent right there...

[Spurs m8]

He has carried the franchise even when they wanted to tank instead. That was amazing. No one in franchise history has done the same not even best player in team history

God stfu

You are so full of fvcking shit

[Xiao Yao You]

can't quit me

[AirBonner]

3 time dpoy gets them where in the playoffs?:biggums:

[Xiao Yao You]

3 time dpoy gets them where in the playoffs?:biggums:

he gets a team that otherwise would be in the lottery in to the playoffs :bowdown:

[AirBonner]

he gets a team that otherwise would be in the lottery in to the playoffs :bowdown:

False

[Xiao Yao You]

False

when did they win games without him? Oh yeah it's never happened. Facts and trolls just don't mix

[Axe]

Hopefully gobert can deliver a championship to salt lake city stars someday. :cheers:

[Xiao Yao You]

One note on Gobert: The Toronto Raptors are among the teams who would have a degree of interest in trading for him if he’s made available, sources say. Would Brooklyn be interested in Rudy Gobert? (https://www.sny.tv/articles/how-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-affect-mitchell-robinson-knicks-future) The Nets would need to include Ben Simmons in almost any trade to satisfy salary requirements.

– via SportsNet New York (https://www.sny.tv/articles/how-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-affect-mitchell-robinson-knicks-future)




Teams continue to monitor the situation in Utah after the Jazz’s first-round loss to the Dallas Mavericks. If Utah decides to make major roster changes, several teams – including the Knicks – will gauge their interest on potential Donovan Mitchell trades. Teams will also gauge Utah’s interest in Rudy Gobert trades (https://www.sny.tv/articles/how-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-affect-mitchell-robinson-knicks-future).
– via SportsNet New York (https://www.sny.tv/articles/how-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-affect-mitchell-robinson-knicks-future)




Donovan deserves Simmons if he forces their best player out

[Xiao Yao You]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266903/Rudy-Gobert-Donovan-Mitchell-Trade-Rumors-Not-Coming-From-Jazz-Side


Similarly, despite rumored interest from the Atlanta Hawks, Dallas Mavericks and Toronto Raptors, Utah doesn't plan to trade Gobert. The Jazz don't believe a Gobert deal would fix the issues the team has.



a new head coach, 6th man, a modern starting 4 and a bigger starting pg is the way to go. Sounds like COTM will be back if he doesn't go to another team sadly. Lakers deserve him! Bojan to 6th man. Do your magic trader Danny! :cheers:

[Xiao Yao You]

Jazz staffers and various figures around the league point most directly at CAA for the whispers that seem designed to push Mitchell toward requesting a trade from Utah, particularly to New York. (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10035491-nba-offseason-buzz-all-eyes-on-utah-jazz-stars-knicks-lakers-pelicans-rumors?share=other) Jazz personnel took great umbrage to Knicks executives William Wesley and Allan Houston and All-Star forward Julius Randle sitting courtside during Utah’s Game 1 road win over the Dallas Mavericks in the first round of the playoffs, sources said.
– via Jake Fischer @ Bleacher Report (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10035491-nba-offseason-buzz-all-eyes-on-utah-jazz-stars-knicks-lakers-pelicans-rumors?share=other)

[8Ball]

Jazz need to salary dump him.

Trade him for 1 year expiring contracts. His salary is too much for next 4 years.

Not even Lakers would trade Westbrook for him.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Jazz need to salary dump him.

Trade him for 1 year expiring contracts. His salary is too much for next 4 years.

Not even Lakers would trade Westbrook for him.
False

[Xiao Yao You]

https://kslsports.com/485907/report-all-star-game-will-impact-jazz-rebuilding-plans/

bad news trolls. Sounds like they are staying together. COTM most likely to leave!!!

[Xiao Yao You]

https://kslsports.com/485964/fischer-conley-most-likely-to-go-in-jazz-trade/

Mitchell the pg! :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

https://kslsports.com/485961/poll-jazz-fans-prefer-to-bring-gobert-and-mitchell-back/


Of the more than 500 fans who voted, 54 percent said they want to see Gobert and Mitchell back with the Jazz next season.



compared to 99% of ISH :lol